my 45 gal oceanic starphire front custom build

[purebullet417]

well i finnaly got it my oceanic 45 gallon(24x18x24) and i love it. the tank is made with 1/2 inch glass and has a starphire front...the tank also has a built in overflow box with the megaflow kit ect. with the tank i got an oceanic sump(witch i have to gut and remake) and a coralife aqualight 150w mh light here some pics tell me what you think
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2006-12-21001.jpg


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2006-12-21002.jpg


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2006-12-21003.jpg


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2006-12-21005.jpg


i will update as i go along

[Avast Marine]

Sweet! Now get er filled up :)

[purebullet417]

lol thanks i got alot of work to do b4 and go easy on me im only 15 so well see how it goes

[melev]

Sweet setup. Let's see more. Hey, no more blurry pictures, okay? Just take them again, and upload them to the same spot as the same filename so they look sharp.

Btw, I love your avatar - that's a stunning coral.

[purebullet417]

lol ill retake the pics just for you ill try to use my moms nikon d50 to try and take them and the coral isnt mine i saw a pic somewhere and its my dream coral that i have to one day get lol

[Cprowler]

Very nice purebullet417, that's a great start. Is this your first tank?

[Hop]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8805386#post8805386 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Sweet setup. Let's see more. Hey, no more blurry pictures, okay? Just take them again, and upload them to the same spot as the same filename so they look sharp.



:) He's excited about the tank and can't hold still;)

LOL. Nice looking tank, keep us updated!

[purebullet417]

Cprowler-thanks and its sorta my first tank i set up and help maintain my uncles 125 gal reef but this tank is in my room so its my first tank by myself

Hop-lol im excited to thats why the pics are blurry lol ill try to get some better pics later

thanks everybody

[purebullet417]

home now and setting up lights so ill get some unblurry pics up soon

[purebullet417]

some new pics with lights
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2006-12-22001.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2006-12-22007.jpg

[AVALover5498]

Very nice! Good luck!:)



-Chris-

[purebullet417]

thanks gata order alot of stuff and redo the sump when i get a chance the holidays mess eveything up but atleast i get money to work on it...heres the equimpment list tell me what you think
coralife aqualight 150w mh(have)
2x tunze nano steam 6025(have 1)
coralife super skimmer 125
vistithrem heater 200w (have)
return pump???? i need help on that i have no clue wat to get
umm cant think of anything eles any thoughts

[Cprowler]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8806869#post8806869 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by purebullet417
Cprowler-thanks and its sorta my first tank i set up and help maintain my uncles 125 gal reef but this tank is in my room so its my first tank by myself



I was just checking to see if you were transferring any livestock or starting fresh.

As for a return pump something like a Mag 3 or 5 or equivalent, I think you want to have 3 to 5 times your display volume going through the sump minus head. Someone correct me on that.

[purebullet417]

thanks iv been lookin at mags or via aqua pumps but iv herd mags put alot of heat in the water can anyone confrim that

[purebullet417]

im thinkin a mag drive7 witch is 450 gph at 4 feet or via aqua 2600 witch is about 400 gph at 4 feet head

[AVALover5498]

I just bought a Mag 7 and love it. It's plumbed through a SCWD to my 29. I'm still setting up the tank so that's all i've got for flow. I'll take a pic later and show you. Tell me how you like the Tunze Nano's, I'm going to be picking two up soon.:)



-Chris-

[xenon]

Excelent project you got going here!

I love your lighting choice :)

Please keep us updated with more pics.

[purebullet417]

AVALover5498- ill def let you know how they are i cant wait to turn them on and i think im leaning twards a mag 7

xenon-thanks ill keep you guys posted tomorrow im going to get some more stuff and i might even get a chance to start work on the sump

thanks alot

[Andrew]

Wow. That will be sweet when its filled up.

[saltycreefer]

Mag 7 and you will be happy!

[purebullet417]

thanks guys i cant wait and ill prob get the mag 7

[warr40]

sweeeet tank man

[purebullet417]

thanks warr yours wont be so bad eaither

[cbeitel]

I think a mag 7 will be too much. I am of the school of thought that a return pump is simply that, a return. It should not be used for flow. High flow through your sump will cause micro bubbles in most cases. Flow can be achieved through PH or closed loop.

I have a 140g display and 45g sump with a Mag 9.5 at a 5ft head. It has to be throttled back...

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

[purebullet417]

so you would say a mag 5 i couldnt decided between the 2 im not realy using it for flow eaither i have tunze for that i think im gana go with the 5 anyway just because i found one cheep

[Saldarya]

I am currently running a 30G Oceanic cube with a Mag as the return pump, plumbed externally. IMO, it is the perfect size for what you want. By the time you lose the vertical head, then add in any 90 degree turns, you will end up around 350-400 gph. A good pump, and I think the Mag 5 will be a bit to small for you long term.

Good luck with the tank!!

[Saldarya]

I am currently running a 30G Oceanic cube with a Mag 7 as the return pump, plumbed externally. IMO, it is the perfect size for what you want. By the time you lose the vertical head, then add in any 90 degree turns, you will end up around 350-400 gph. A good pump, and I think the Mag 5 will be a bit to small for you long term.

Good luck with the tank!!

[purebullet417]

u see the way i have it set up i will not realy be using elbows but all flex tubing but i guess i can get a mag 7 and just use a ball valve to turn it down ill have to decided heres one last bump till tomorrow when i update

[gkarshens]

I would go with the 7. As you said you can always turn it down, but you can't turn a 5 up.

[Cprowler]

Have you figured how much water your sump will hold?

A Mag 5 at 4" of head is 310 and nearly 7 times your display per hour. So every hour you will have 310 g going through that little sump. I think that will cause some issues like micro bubbles.

If it were me I would be looking at the Mag 3, 270 @ 4' and only 45 watts of heat not 70w like on the Mag 7. Thats still 6 times display turnover.

I'm interested in what Melev's take on this is.

[melev]

The Mag 5 would be fine for this application as a return pump. Use 1" plumbing on the 1/2" outlet of the pump.

[purebullet417]

see i cant use 1" plubing because all the plumbing is under the stand and it has to be 3/4 will a mag 5 be fine at 3/4 pipe at 4 feet

[Andrew]

Are you going to use sand or go BB?

[melev]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8814509#post8814509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by purebullet417
see i cant use 1" plubing because all the plumbing is under the stand and it has to be 3/4 will a mag 5 be fine at 3/4 pipe at 4 feet

You can use 1" all the way up to the bulkhead and then reduce. 3/4" will work, but you simply get less flow. I don't believe putting a Mag 7 in its place would make a difference, as you are still restricting the pipe.

Odds are the Mag 7 would run a tad hotter, and would consume more electricity too.

[purebullet417]

update i bought a bunch of stuff today and got a mag 5

[affableamerican]

I have the same setup. Go with the mag5 -- plenty of return action for ya. I love the setup as well. I ended up gutting the sump and creating a fuge on one side with the skimmer on the other side. Unfortunately, this left little room on the skimmer side, so I had to go with an undersized skimmer (CSS65). Bad move on my part. Let me know how the CSS125 fits -- pics if possible. I'm thinking of switching my 65 out for the 125, and I'm curious to see how much space it will take up in that tiny 15g sump! :)

[AVALover5498]

I have a mag 7 with 3/4" tubing. Are you saying that if I went to 1" I would get more flow?

[Avast Marine]

Yep, AVA you see mags like big plumbing, in and out :)

purebullet, ya got water in that thing yet?

[Brandon's Reef]

I have been toying with buying this tank as of now i have the 24g aquapod on a oceanic 30 gallon cube stand. Do you recomend the tank, and what kind of stands do they have available for them?

[affableamerican]

I'd definitely recommend it, if you are looking for tanks in this range. It's a quality build.

I don't know about stands, as I, like the OP, purchased the tank/stand/sump/plumbing as a complete setup. Some issues I have with the stand though are the glass doors (my fuge light means you see all the eqpt. underneath), and it *is* a tight fit in there, but nothing a little planning can't handle.

[purebullet417]

Andrew-sand

affableamerican-thanks im thinking of making 4 chambers but ill see how it works out ill def post pics when i get it up

dandy7200-no no water yet im still setting it up

Brandon's Reef-i defintely recomend the tank as well the starphire glass is the best and if u gut the sump and do it right the tank will be find

im orderd all my stuff today and ill collect it over the week ill update u guys more as i go along but fell free to ask more questions

[purebullet417]

do u guys think hd sells fittings for flex tubing to make it from 1" to 3/4 and also dose anyone no what the outlet on the mag 5 is female threaded male threaded or slip so i can buy a half inch to 1 inch adapter

[Fishfreak218]

ahh, another teenage reefer...
Im 14 and I have the 30g. oceanic cube nice tank
you got a PM purebullet

[purebullet417]

fishfreak u got pm

[purebullet417]

bump

[Brandon's Reef]

when the water going in?

[purebullet417]

as soon as i can redo the sump and get all my stuff id say by new years it should be up as long as my stuff comes

[purebullet417]

merry xmas eve

[melev]

You too. Are you making water over the holidays?

[Avast Marine]

You are looking for a "bushing" in the plumbing department. If you are planning on this for your mag, you need: from pump -> 1/2" fpt to 1" fpt bushing -> 1"mpt to 1" hosebarb adapter -> hose -> 1" mpt to hosebarb adapter -> 1" fpt to 3/4" to (either slip or mpt depending on if your bulkhead is threaded or slip).

Lowes has better plumbing supplies in my area. HTH

[purebullet417]

melev-no waiting for my ro from the filter guys to come otherwise i would be

dandy7200-thanks lowes is better in mine to ill print that out and go check it out

[xtm]

That's a nice tank. My LFS carries that exact same tank+stand combo and I'm thinking about getting one for my bedroom....

Can't wait to see it running... please post pics of your progress!

[Lunchbucket]

NICE!

i didn't know the Oceanic 45 cubes came w/ starphire...very very nice

they super spendy?

i like me a cube tank :D

Lunchbucket

[purebullet417]

there sorta pricy but everything is all build in and theres plenty of things they thought of that no one eles did like the black eurobracing with 2 cord holes drilled in the back 2 corneres...if u wanted to could drill them out a bit more and use them as a close loop...ill keep you guys updated but realy nothing will get done till prob tues as xmas is tomorrow and stuff

[purebullet417]

what do you guys think i should do for bottom flow in my tank do realy need to add a ph at the bottom of the tank or will the mag 5 return and 2 nano streams be enough

[Lunchbucket]

i'd think that would be plenty of flow.

you could always put a maxijet or a modded maxijet in the back pointing left to right so you don't get much settling back there

Lunchbucket

[xtm]

If I were to do this kind of setup, I'd go with a Mag 9.5 going to a SCWD split into two sea swirls... this way you'll have the left-right motion and on-off action.. but that's just me :D maybe a Mag9.5 will cause too much heat for a system that small..

[Chaotic Reefer4u]

good job kiddo, keep us posted and have a very merry christmas as well...

[CW from the OC]

Hiya Purebullet,

Just wanted to say nice start on the system, that is a great looking little tank! Makes me think I should go get one of those for my 10 year old daughter!

I think you'll have enough flow with what you have.

Merry XMas!

See Dub

[purebullet417]

thanks guys just got back from xmas and got all lots of money for livestock lol

Lunchbucket-thanks ill see how it is when i get the tank running maby ill just add a maxi 900 or somthin with a hydor

xtm-im not doing a closed loop and i realy dont want to and i think its just less that can go wrong but thanks for the sugesstion


ChAoTiCrEeFeR4U-thanks you 2

CW from the OC-im sure she would love this tank and hope your xmas was good to

as soon as i can get to lowes or hd ill be able to get some progress goin ill keep u updated

[Tripspike]

My 42 gallon uses an Eheim 1250 submersible which seems to be just perfect. The pump is extremely quiet and has been running for the better part of 10 years.

Trip

[andyjd]

Looks excellent!

what fish are you thinking about?

[affableamerican]

Yeah, curious about your stock plan as well. In the same tank, I'm going with a maroon clown and a starry blenny. I may add another tough, small fish, like a Ps. fridmani or maybe a couple blue-green chromis. But that will be pushing it, esp. when they mature.

Given that it's a cube, there isn't a lot of room to work with unfortunately.

[Retzius]

I will have almost the same tank, mine is a 24x24x18 cube. I was also wondering what return pump would be good and was looking into getting some tunze nanos. I just posted a q on tunze forum about a similar tank.

Anyhow, not trying to jack your thread but post pics cause Id like to see it b/c everything sounds and looks good so far. Good job.

[purebullet417]

well i went to hd today and got all my stuff and im using a mag 5 so well see how it is

andyjd-2 clowns a wrase and maby 1 other small fish

affableamerican-as stated above

Retzius-thanks ill let u no about the mag and the tunze

[purebullet417]

im thinkin due to space constraints the only way i can realy set it up is fuge skimmer return anyone think this will atlest be ok i no its not the best but will it worki

[affableamerican]

Pure -- You might want to consider ways to get good flow on the right and left back corners. When I first put rock in mine, I was getting a ton of detritus build-up in those back corners, and that was with two MJ1200s and my return. Those back corners are tough to get flow to. Right now, I've got one ph pointed straight down into one corner and one exit of my teed return pointing straight down into the other.

And regarding your sump question, I'm not sure what you are saying. Do you mean that you want to set up the 15g with a fuge area, then a skimmer area and then a return area? Is there enough room in the 24" length to do three compartments? I'm rearranging mine when my new skimmer gets here (started with the CSS65 and am quickly moving to an Octopus NW-110), and I am considering doing it like this -- skimmer compartment, baffles, fuge/return area. But I don't know if there will be issues with putting my return pump in the same area as the fuge. At the very least, I will be returning more pods into my MT for my starry blenny to munch on.

[purebullet417]

iv got some killer nano streams so i think ill be allright with the flow in the corners and if not i have an idea about what to do

as for the compartments i thought of alot of things and i just cant think of of way to set it up ill have to wait till my equipent gets here to realy start doing it

[ray22]

i really like this tank , but i cant find it anywhere , do they sell it online?? i even checked the oceanic home page and it is not there.. ????

[affableamerican]

Search on Oceanic Tech Series tanks.

E.g., page two (http://www.nsaquatics.com/aquariums/OCEANICAquariumList.pdf).

[purebullet417]

just go to your lfs and ask them to order you the 45 cube oceanic tech series...i think the sizes r 45 cube 75 90 and 120 and i thought a 180 but im not 100% sure

[ray22]

thanks for the info ..

[purebullet417]

no prob hope u can get one

[purebullet417]

i think i found a new sump/fuge design but ill have to wait till my stuff gets here to test it out for sure anyone eles have any sugestions

[Andrew]

purebullet417: I now dislike you.... why? Cause I bought this tank after reading over this thread. :D

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/Evanish4/Untitled-137ta.jpg

[melev]

It's even from the same blurry store! :lol:

[Andrew]

:p My 75 looks really werid in that picture. I really need a better camera.

[AVALover5498]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8838502#post8838502 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
It's even from the same blurry store! :lol:

LMAO!:lolspin:

[purebullet417]

LOL now thats funny looks like the prefecto 45 cause you dont have the built in overflow and thats the prefecto stand am i correct

[purebullet417]

melev i think you need to teach all of us how to take good pics

[Andrew]

It's a 37 gallon. Good size for a small SPS reef. :)

[purebullet417]

sps reef sounds good send pics or thread when u get it goin

[Andrew]

Once I get the equipment Ill start a tank log thread.

[purebullet417]

sounds good

[Andrew]

I don't want a canopy and don't want a lid on my tank so I might go with this unit: ( 20 K )

http://hellolights.com/ocli25hqiame.html

[purebullet417]

i think that would look sick on a sps reef i like the way my tank looks without the canopy

[Andrew]

I'm going to order two American DJ PC-100A 8-Switch ON/OFF Power Centers for under my stand as well this week to get things started. Plus get the HDPE shetting for the bottom of the tank.

[purebullet417]

looks good i just got regular powerstrips...for when melve looks at this do you think if i have extra acrilic laying around and i just so happen to not be able to sleep at night and somthing "happens" i can keep a small acrilic tank(1-2 gallons) togeather with silicone iv never worked with acrilic b4

[melev]

No, silicone won't work with acrylic. Take some time to read the DIY pages on my site to learn more, if you like.

[Andrew]

You need to use weld-on for arylic. Silicone won't hold. ( I found this out on a DIY skimmer I made. :D )

[purebullet417]

sounds good but now that i have arylic im using it as my sump baffles i did this once b4 but now im worried that the silicone wont hold good its a glass sump and im using arylic baffles will it hold my other one is working for 4 months

[purebullet417]

also regular ge silicone 1 WITHOUT mold and bioshore thingy is reef safe right

[Andrew]

Do you have a ro/di unit? I need to find a good one for under $150 to use.

[purebullet417]

i got this one from the filter guys
http://www.thefilterguys.biz/ro_di_systems.htm
second one down for $130 i think mine was like 160 for that fittings tubing and a tds meter

[Andrew]

That's a sweet deal. I might get that one instead of the coralife one I was going to get. Anything will be better than the tap water I'm using now.

[purebullet417]

yeah and could someone tell me about the silicone and sump b4 i do it

[purebullet417]

yeah and could someone tell me about the silicone and sump b4 i do it

[purebullet417]

ugg double post

[gkarshens]

I used silicone on acrylic baffles in my sump. It ran for a year with no problems. Silicone is hard to use to keep acrylic water tight. I have used it on my acrylic external overflow and no leaks yet in over a year. If you sand the surfaces of the acrylic that you are going to silicone to it adheres better. Try at your own risk.

[purebullet417]

ill use it cause my other one has been in operation for about 4 months so well see how it works and if it leakes its in a tank so it dosent realy matter is ge silicone 1 WITHOUT all the mold stuff reef safe

[Avast Marine]

the silicone is actually stickiing to the glass in a baffle situation. It's like a sandwich with acrylic instead of bologna.

[d4a2n0k]

purebullet417-Nice tank. I saw your setup in Pets Warehouse last Tuesday when I ordered myself a tank as well. On Thursday I went back to pickup my tank and saw yours had a sold sign on it and I thought to myself, who is the lucky dog? Now I know who it went to.

It really was a hot looking tank and stand. For some reason, Oceanic has zero information on their website about the "Tech Tanks". I ended up with a Oceanic "Contrast Collection" 40 gallon stretch hex.

Good luck with yours, Im assembling pics myself and will start my own post soon.

[melev]

You can use silicone if you are sure it is the safe one, or you can just buy a $5 tube of Aquarium Sealant at Home Depot in the glues section if you are worried.

[purebullet417]

d4a2n0k-i picked it up on thursday did u see me taking it i saw alot of ppl looking at it wile i was there and everyone was saying how nice it was....i also looked at the stetch hex but loved this tank

melev-everyone says it is but b4 i use it ill post somthing in the diy forum

[purebullet417]

back to the top

[purebullet417]

bord so ill bump this back up

[ray22]

well because i like your tank so much i have decided to go with the 75gallon model from my lfs . my qustion ::: do you think 2 250watt mh over top would be over kill. it will be all sps tank..

[purebullet417]

i love hearing people say i loved this tank so much i bought myself one or the same kind lol a 75 gallon tanks footprint is 48x18x20 correct??? if so then i would say 2x250 for an all sps tank would be very nice not overkill but not underrated im not sure if 150 or 175 would be good for things at the bottom good luck and post pics or a thread once u get it up

[purebullet417]

question can i put my ballast in the stand it will be mounted on the back wall inside the stand the sump will be under it but about 4-5 inchs away from it anything to worry about

[purebullet417]

tomorrow ill snap a few pics of my uncles tank as im going there to pick up my tank stuff YEAHHHHHHH

[melev]

As long as it stays dry, it'll be fine. I had my ballast (IceCap) screwed to the back of the canopy on my 55g, where it never would get wet.

[ray22]

the oceanic tech tank 75gal is 36-18-24 .. should look sweet. i cant wait ..

[purebullet417]

melev-no canopy but ill make sure it wont get wet
ray-still good 2x250 will realy look nice on that tank and will still be good at the bottom

i went to my uncles to pick up my stuff and snap some phots eqiument pics later as for now heres 125 gal tank pics

fts
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0864.jpg
pbt
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0866.jpg
yt
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0867.jpg
clowns and torch
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0869.jpg
gsp
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0870.jpg
fairy wrase
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0872.jpg
pbt
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0875.jpg
yt
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0876.jpg

[purebullet417]

rics
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0877.jpg
yellow pacilapora with a hermit crab with zoos on it
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0878.jpg
acro???
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0879.jpg
pink acro???
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0880.jpg
2 tangs in right corner of tank
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0884.jpg
toadstool
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0883.jpg
blenny
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/IMG_0885.jpg

ill post my equiment pics when i get home

[purebullet417]

no one likes pics huh

[amiricle]

very nice pics purebullet... i love the PBT

[purebullet417]

thanks amiricle hes my fav to

[ray22]

his tank is looking good...

[ray22]

i have another question . i have several sumps and if you dont mind pure , what is the inside measurement of the oceanic stand? i want to see if my one sump will fit . i may have to go with the 45gal afterall .... thanks for the info .

[purebullet417]

lol the inside dims of my 45 gal stand r about 22x16x30 a 10 or 15 high sump fits perfectly

[purebullet417]

sumps gutted now i just have to make new baffles and silicone them up

[msuzuki126]

haha that hermit really has zoos on its shell?

[purebullet417]

yeah i put one that fell off and super guled it to its shell as a joke and now look at it i also put a star polyp on a turbo snail and man is it all over now lol

[purebullet417]

happy new year

[ray22]

how is the sump coming along ? any pics ?

[purebullet417]

well i have it gutted and when i get a chance today or tomorrow im gana put the baffles in

[purebullet417]

the corallife super skimmer 125 is just way to big for the sump so it looks like im going to have to get a differnt skimmer ugg it may take a wile b4 i actully get the tank filled an cycling

[affableamerican]

Pure -- Thought about the Octopus NW-110? I have one on the way, and I can let you know how it fits into that 15g sump. I may have to rearrange my current baffle setup, but I believe it will fit nicely.

[Lpsfanatic338]

My Euro RS-80 fits into a 15g sump and i also have a refugium section, baffles and the return section. The RS-100 would also fit pretty well

[purebullet417]

i hung the skimmer and now i have plenty of room so this well work out

Lpsfanatic338-how bought them jets huh i think there gana do real good in the playoffs

[purebullet417]

so i organized all my wires and riged up my power bars mounted ballast and did some other stuff thats the update for now

[purebullet417]

going to build my sump today ill let you know how it came out after

[purebullet417]

sumps finished letting it dry at my dads house ill pick it up when i get my ro and can finnaly start the tank running

[Lpsfanatic338]

Im going to the game in new england. It's gonna be sick

[purebullet417]

lucky ill have to watch on my big screen if they hade a home game i prob could have went but w.e go jets

[warr40]

go giants

[purebullet417]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8886907#post8886907 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by warr40
go giants

is that supposed to be a joke o wait they are lol anyway hows your tank commin when u gana get it running

[purebullet417]

im hoping that ill be getting the rock next weekend but that might be pushing it a little

[purebullet417]

i need help figuring out an ato container it can be almost and lengh and hight but less then 4 inchs wide

[warr40]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8888250#post8888250 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by purebullet417
is that supposed to be a joke o wait they are lol anyway hows your tank commin when u gana get it running

soon i hope

[purebullet417]

hope to get the plumbing ect done this weekend but today my fw discus died =(

[purebullet417]

wat no one wants to talk

[melev]

You should read other threads and participate in those. Typically one thread isn't like a chat session, but rather a discussion about a specific topic. In your case, it is about your 45g that you are setting up. Since you've not done anything newsworthy, your thread is quiet for now.

You can learn a lot from many threads. I'm subscribed to over 2500 threads here on RC.

[purebullet417]

WOW 2500 thats alot i think im gana go look in the large tank forum as i plan on getting a 180-280 tank over the summer

[ray22]

whats up pure.. my tech 45 and stand are going to be here on wed . i will have some pics up . i just ordered the lights as well i went with the usa current ourter orbit 250watt hqi and 4 t5's . i just have to build my sump and order the skimmer .. i am going with the asm g3 i think. the sump is going to be a 30gal aga .. it will be set up with the kalk reactor and ro unit to supply fresh water resivor in the fish room.. well it actually a closet next to the tank but it will hide everythng.. i just have to find a place to keep all the stuff in the closet so my wife dosent kill me . if i go missing over the next week you all know who did it .. lol.. just joking. i will just have to buy her something to make her forget about the closet and the money i am going to spend on this project.. i plan on putting all sps in the tank ..what do you plan on having?

[purebullet417]

wow that sounds realy nice ray mines going to be a mixed reef id say mostly softies and lps but alot of acros and some other sps at the top maby a clam or 2 im using the stock stand so im stuck witht the 15 high sump but ill make it work but there is no room for anything eles ill need to find some weired containter for a top off and find some way to build a small shelf in the tank stand for supplies... im thinkin if i use the extra acrilic i have i can build somthin allthough iv never worked with acrylic and dont know where to get weldon ill figure it out

[purebullet417]

ro came in and sump is done looks like ill have this tank filled by friday

[warr40]

NEED PICS

[purebullet417]

pics soon i got my ro and other stuff today i need to make 1 more trip to hd then ill be able to start filling it up

[NanoGurl]

pics!!!

[purebullet417]

of what an empty tank lol ill take pics with everything done around tues or wends

[warr40]

take pics of ur new sump

[purebullet417]

new pics for everyone
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-08001.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-08002.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-08003.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-08004.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-08005.jpg

[warr40]

tight space huh

[purebullet417]

yeah it all barly gets int here ill have to figure out wat to do for an ato container though

[purebullet417]

quick question if i fill the tank up halfway do you think that will be good to offset the amount of rock going in i want to be able to add salt as soon as i can get the rock so i gata make sure i dont put to little or to much water in as it will displace it

[melev]

Are you going to add sand too? Any displaced water will go into the sump, I'd imagine.

[warr40]

fill it 3/4 and keep ur sump empty then all the displaced water will go into the sump

[purebullet417]

yes sand to and ill fill it half to 3/4

[robster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8855356#post8855356 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ray22
the oceanic tech tank 75gal is 36-18-24 .. should look sweet. i cant wait ..


I can't wait to see pictures of this one. I have been looking to replace my 37 cube with something. Was thinking the 45 but now want to see the 75.

[purebullet417]

for wat i believe he didnt get the 75 and got the 45 but well see im gana see if i can snap a pic at the lfs

[purebullet417]

cant get to hd again today gata go tomorrow tank delayed another day

[robster]

How much did you pay for the tank & stand combo? I'm assuming the overflow and starphire were extra? Did it come in other colors or just black? Also, is that the standard model 1 sump?

[purebullet417]

the tank is an oceanic tech series tank and i think they come standard with starphire and overflow this way and i think they have cherry and yes it is the reg model 1 sump and pm i would like to keep the price as privite as possable

[robster]

Ok. I sent you a PM.

[purebullet417]

all pms replied to

[purebullet417]

pics of eurobracing for robster and im gana start filling the tank soon yayyyyy
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-11001.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-11004.jpg

[robster]

Did you say they put that on there for the light? Won't the light sit on the edge without the euro bracing? It kinda looks like a piece of cut acrylic that is just laying on the top. Did you paint the back or did they? A really nice setup. What type of lighting is that? PC? You got to get a MH for that thing. The colors will look amazing with that starphire glass.

[purebullet417]

its a 150w metal haliade as stated earlyer and its not acrylic its actally plastic u can feel it and they also put it on there to hole the tank togeather

[ray22]

here is the box...

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0706.jpg

[ray22]

THAT MY 45 TECH TANK CAME IN ... :) AND HERE IS THE REST ..

the build begins.....

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0709.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0710.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0712.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0714.jpg

[purebullet417]

tank has a 1/4 inch of water in it YAYYYYYYYYYYY

[purebullet417]

very nice ray 22 im gana start a thread about these tanks and we all have to post in one

[ray22]

i dident know there was a pre drilled hole in the back for a cooling fan.. gotta love that :)... i will have more pics to come... talk to you soon.. and i am jealous you water filling up this awsome cube..

[purebullet417]

lol i no i think they made it for plumbing but also made the the space the same size as a fan and im gana have to get one and test it out lol

[ray22]

pure ,, did yours come with a glass top?

[purebullet417]

no glass top im not sure what im going to do for a top yet

[purebullet417]

tank has rock and sand and is filling some more YAYYYYYY
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-13002.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-13006.jpg

[robster]

Looking good. I like how you have the rock stacked high.

[purebullet417]

only way to do it wait till you can actually see it i think the tanks looks realy good

[Andrew]

Sweet! I'm going to get a 45lb box of Premium Fiji from Reefer Madness when I fill up my 37. Hopefully I can form the rock so I don't have much touching the bottom of the starboard. That way the flow can get under them.

[purebullet417]

sounds like it should be nice i got mine from a lfs suffolk county fish and reef for any long islanders...anyway i wont be home tomorrow and dont think the tank will be full will it be ok if i leave the tank unfull then when i get backmonday continue to fill it i dont think it will get to the sump by tonight

[Fishfreak218]

I cant wait to see the aquascape when the water clears up and the tank is filled. the tank looks good and this is deffenatly a kick @$$ setup

[purebullet417]

lol thanks but can anyone help me with the sump thing should i get the right silinty for what i have and leave a maxi running

[melev]

What?

[purebullet417]

i wont be able to finish filling the tank tonight and am going to my dads tomorrow and wont be home till the night is it ok if i let the tank run with a maxi jet 1200 at the right sailinity untill monday then monday get the sump hooked up and the skimmer ect

[Andrew]

Yea, the tanks new so It's not going to effect it. Plus I don't think your sump is that large in gallon terms anyways.

[purebullet417]

k thanks sump will about 10 gallons so yeah not that much

[robster]

Don't leave that live rock out of the water. It needs to be completely submerged and aerated with a more than one power head if possible.

[purebullet417]

rock is complety covered and ill put a nano stream on when i wake up in the morring because there not assembled right now

[ray22]

looking good pure, i am jealous , it is going to be at least a week before i can start to fill mine..

[purebullet417]

i got the tank and sump running skimmer and all that other good stuff wile im gone slight micro bubble problem with the skimmer so il have to think of a way to mod it a little bit

[ItsDave]

let it run for awhile, its probably just breaking in

[robster]

I agree. Let it break in. If that doesn't fix it just put a filter sock on the discharge of the skimmer. That take care of the micro bubbles.

[warr40]

u beat me lol

[purebullet417]

the filter sock is a good idea but ill leave it till the end of the cycle to see how it works and for break in its allready pulling out some nasty stuff and its only supposed to be breaking in lol
warr yours will be up soon enough lol if u need help just hit me up
finnaly some pics
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-14004.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-14007.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-14008.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-14005.jpg

[robster]

It looks like you have the skimmer on the pump return side of the sump?

Looking good. You need to take a pic with the lights on.

[purebullet417]

yeah unfunuently due to the space constraints this was the only way possible to do the skimmer i think once the skimmer breaks in ill do a mod and have the exit of the skimmer come out in the refigium to stop the bubbles

[purebullet417]

i put sand and rubble in the fuge and once it settles down a little ill do my first water tests on it

[purebullet417]

did firsts test and ammonia skpiked to 8.0 looks like im cycleing also can anyone id a hitch hiker for me i cant get a pic because it stays in a hole but it looks exactly like an earthworm and lives in a hole in the lr i broke a peice of it off but lost it in the sand but its still alaive in the rocks

[robster]

It could be a bristle worm. Was it smooth or did it have rings around it?

[JmLee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8989705#post8989705 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by purebullet417
did firsts test and ammonia skpiked to 8.0 looks like im cycleing also can anyone id a hitch hiker for me i cant get a pic because it stays in a hole but it looks exactly like an earthworm and lives in a hole in the lr i broke a peice of it off but lost it in the sand but its still alaive in the rocks

Hey purebullet417. Sounds like a peanut worm. They are beneficial i believe.

[robster]

http://www.mesa.edu.au/friends/seashores/worms.html

[purebullet417]

ehhh not realy sure it looks sorta like a peanut worm but are there any type of bad worms i should watch out for

[purebullet417]

all i can see is the front of the worm as it hides in its hole and it appers to be a grayish green with little holes in it thats all i can see

[robster]

I believe all reef worms are good with the exception of flat worms.

[purebullet417]

what do flat worms look like

[robster]

http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&q=flat+worm&btnG=Search+Images

[purebullet417]

no its not a flatworm i just got a glimps of it when i came in the room it was out like 1/4" out and look like it folded over itself and was white then went back in the back in its hole quickly

[purebullet417]

not sure if its good news or bad news but i think the worm may be dying it used to jet back in its hole everytime i turned my light on now it just slowly retrets back into and i notice when i comes to the edge of the hole the tip is white also secend tests done today and cycle is comming along beautiful im expecting a clean up crew in 3-4 weeks give or take

[purebullet417]

did second round of tests id figure ill throw up the test results just to show you guys
temp-79
salinity-1.025
ph-8.4
ammonia-8.0
nitrite-.25
nitrate-0
any comments

[warr40]

how bout an update of ur uncles tank

[robster]

Pure, I think I am going to order your tank and stand less the light and sump. I have a 37 Oceanic today which is the same size tank just 2" shorter in height. Therefore my custom canopy will fit on top and am hoping my custom sump will fit underneath. I have a couple of questions about your tank. Did it come with a painted black back or did you paint it? What are the inside dimensions of your stand? I am hoping my 15" x 18" sump will fit into one of the three doors. Also, what is that little white circle on the bottom of the tank that I see in the first pics on page 1? It looks like a hole in the stand with something white underneath.

[purebullet417]

warr-next time im there ill snap some pics
robster-this tank is defently good i would recomend it to anyway for your canopy you just have to make sure it will clear the little lip on the tank witch you could proboly sand down the inside of your canopy the 1/8 of an inch if you need to...as for you sump i measured and 15inchs wont fit its to wide...the tank is supported in the corners so it sticks out into the stand a little more making only a 14 inch space usable front to back and about 20 inches long...i dont see anything in the first pick like your talking about but if your talking about the second pic on the right side of the tank thats just a reflection of the high hat lighting in my room if you put the picture you talking about up in a post and circle or point out what your talking about id be more then willing to answer any more questions

anyway no updates for today

[robster]

Thanks Pure. That must be a reflection I am seeing. Bummer on the stand size. I wonder if I could just drill holes into my stand for the overflow plumbing to drop through. Does the back of your tank come black or did you paint it? I'm pretty sure my canopy will fit because it just barely lays on the outer rim of the tank I have now. See pics in link below. I was thinking I would just paint it black or if I go with my stand leave as is. The dimensions of my tank are the same as yours. Yours is just 2" taller.

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AZtWLlk4as2GI

[purebullet417]

sorry i forgot to post about the back of the tank it comes black but it dosent seem to be painted more like tinted...wow that stand is beautiful if you want to use the stand i can measure out for you where you would need to drill the holes or make a cutout for the plumbing if you want just ask

[robster]

Will you measure the width between the frame on the door? Basically, I'm trying to figure out the largest sump that will fit through the front or side doors. My Oceanic dealer told me the inside dimensions of the stand are 23L x 14.5W x 30.5H. This is just a tad smaller than my inside stand size 21L x 16W. My door opening appears to be much wider than yours. I really like how you can access the sump on three sides.

[purebullet417]

id say the biggest you could side perfetly straight through one of the side doors would be 13 inchs because of all the posts jutting out if you want ill take a pic for you and yes the three sides is realy cool

[robster]

Only 13" huh. Bummer. I take it that the front door is smaller than the side doors?

Post some pics of your tank with the lights on....

Is the flow good with both of the Tunze Nano's or is it blowing up a sand storm?

[purebullet417]

yes the front door is a little smaller and you wouoldnt be able to menover a tank through it
as for the nano streams it took a little adusting but now theres no sandstorm
as for pics here u go sorry there a lil blurry i just got finished working on the tank and the top of the tank looks much bluer then it dose in real life
fts
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-19001.jpg
antincs
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-19002.jpg
left and front
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-19003.jpg
right and front
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-19006.jpg
front again
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/purebullet417/2007-01-19005.jpg

[robster]

Looks really good. Be careful with that glass. I've learned the hard way that glass scratches alot easier than I ever thought it would If you have one of those magnetic glass cleaners check it daily for little grains of sand that get wedged into the the cleaner. One grain of sand can do some serious damage. I really like that little ledge on the bottom. A perfect spot for a piece of sun coral.

[purebullet417]

i was thinkin the same thing about the ledge

[purebullet417]

well nottin new but ammonia is starting to come down and nitrite is starting to go up a lil more thats about it for updates

[ray22]

Pure,, it is looking great here are a few pics of mine... i just got my skimmer asm g3 and my sump ..

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0722.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0724.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0725.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/polishman_2006/100_0727.jpg

[robster]

Looks good Ray. What size sump is that. It looks big. I assume you are going to plumb it through the wall into the room to the right of the tank where the door leads? Did you cut the acrylic baffles yourself? Do you plan on putting a fuge after the three baffles?

[JmLee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8991446#post8991446 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by purebullet417
ehhh not realy sure it looks sorta like a peanut worm but are there any type of bad worms i should watch out for

:rollface:.................. page 10.

[purebullet417]

yea ray looks realy good and jmlee are you trying to hint at somthin

[Lunchbucket]

ray22 - how do you plan on attaching the acrylic baffles to the glass sump? silicone won't work.

Lunchbucket

[andyjd]

I have a acrylic baffle siliconed into my sump :D

[robster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9047890#post9047890 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lunchbucket
ray22 - how do you plan on attaching the acrylic baffles to the glass sump? silicone won't work.

Lunchbucket

Why do you say it won't work? I could swear I've seen lots of people do this with silicone. Also, what is the difference in this and an acrylic overflow sealed to the inside of a glass tank?

[d4a2n0k]

If you're generous with the silicone, it will hold acrylic to glass just fine. Ive done a few sumps like this with no problem and they've held for years. Never use acrylic with silicone if you are actually holding water with it. There is only one glue for that and thats Weld-On.

One other thing. Make sure the acrylic is not touching the glass on any side. I see in the picture that you have cut the acrylic too big. Leave about 1/4" on all sides and seal it up with silicone. Acrylic actually soaks up water over time and can expand which in turn can break the glass.

[purebullet417]

i have a glass sump with acrylic siliconed into it and it seems to be working fine just apply a good amount of it then then let it dry and d4a2nok did you ever figure out what your going to do about your tank

[d4a2n0k]

Yes, I will be adding my own pics to your thread if you dont mind in a few days. I have the 45 tech tank on order!

The downside is that I have to sell my new Deltec MCE600 as now I will have a sump. Im going to pickup the Bubble Master 150 to replace it though, if I can get my hands on one. For flow Im going to get a small return pump and use the 2 x Tunze 6025 Streams from my stretch hex. For light, my 24" Maristar 1 x 250w HQI and 2 x 24w T-5 from my stretch hex will also be used.

[purebullet417]

love your equimpent choice i would love a bubble master and a maristar but w.e i have is fine for now and get your pics up on this thread it fine i everyone loves these tanks anyway

[ray22]

Lunch , i know you have been around for a while . with that being said it suprises me that you would think that it would not work .. if you mean that it wont bond with the acrylic you are 100% correct . if you think it wont keep them in place then you are wrong . go tothe king of sumps MELEV's site and look at the basic diy for a aga aquarium sump / refugium .. sorry to say but the acrylic is siliconed in place and working fine.. i did not have the time to run aroudn and find a glass shop to cut them to fit ..

[ray22]

robster,, it is a aga 30 gal 36" long . i do plan on putting a small refugium after the baffles and making the return area a little smaller . and i am going to stuff the sump in the closet . :) i will have more pics to come.

[purebullet417]

looks good ray maby one day ill run my tnak to my closet

[purebullet417]

well i found out the mount on one of my nano streams is broken so ill have to get a new one or superglue it back on

[ray22]

go with the superglue gel it is like duct tape for the aquarium..

[purebullet417]

lol on my ucnles tank the plastic leg cracked and we used superglue gel just like duct tape lol

[Avast Marine]

Hadn't checked on this in a while. You've been busy. Looks good. Whats the biggest tech tank they make?

[d4a2n0k]

They come in 45, 70, 90 and 120 gallon sizes. I just picked up my 45 tonight and its definitely a nice tank.

[Avast Marine]

Thanks dank, do you know the dims of the 120 by chance?

[d4a2n0k]

45g - 24 x 18 x 25
70g - 36 x 18 x 25
90g - 48 x 18 x 25
120g - 48 x 24 x 25

[zacharytrimble]

I'm excited for you!

[purebullet417]

d4a2nok post some pics once you get it arit these tanks great

[d4a2n0k]

I already got it! The tanks a bit dusty but will post some pics as soon as I clean it up.

One question purebullet417, is there supposed to be a cover for the overflow box? I seem to remember your tank had a black acrylic cover over the overflow. Mine didnt come with one though...

Thanks ZacharyTrimble!

[purebullet417]

yes theres a black cover for it sorry it didnt come with one

[purebullet417]

bord so bumpin the thread only 30 more pages till a split lol

[purebullet417]

so last night me and my friend had the bright idea to set up a 10 gal prop tank with left over equipment we found laying in his garage so heres wat where gana do
standard 10 gal aga tank-free
used 10 gal sump for his old tank-free
asm mini g skimmer from his old tank-free plus 10 dollers for mod parts
4x36w pc retros-free laying around his house
return pump and rock is all we need to get the tank up lol