View Full Version : Massive Infestation - Please help!

01/08/2007, 06:46 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but someone at michgianreefers.com suggested I seek your help.

Over the past 3-5 days I've noticed my mushrooms dying off. I've probably lost half of them. It's hard to say as none of the remaining are opening up but anyways. I had about 300 and I've noticed a substantial decline.

My one group of zoo's is remaining closed, as are my yellow polyps. My hammer is starting to not open up as big as well. GSP, Green Sinularia, Orange Ric,s Finger leather are all fine.

I've noticed a spider-web like flossy film covering alot of the rock where the shrooms were, as well as my zoo's and yellow polyps. It's also covering, many shroom remains.

I checked my parameters... 1.024, 80 degrees, pH a little low at 8.0, nitrite 0, nitrate a little high (but it's always been high in this tank). Tank has been running for just over 3 years, I run a 25w Aqua C UV and a CPR 194 wet/dry/skimmer.

The only "events" I can tie the die off to are: I started to dose DT's about 2 weeks ago. And about a week ago, I added a Powder Brown tang and 10 margarita snails. Is it possible that the new livestock could have had some sort of bacteria with it? (No, I didn't quarantine, never have)

I did a large water change yesterday, bought some purigen to run instead of carbon, and added some buffer to boost the ph.

It seems the spiderweb like coating is teaming with life. I initially thought they were bubbles (about the size of the dot on the i right here) but indeed thousands of white (on spiderweb on corals) and red(on spider web on rock and substrate) are swarming all over this web like covering.

They are floating in the water as well, I wouldn't call it cloudy but, dirty.

Any ideas? I'm literally watching them devour corals.


01/08/2007, 06:48 AM
This is what I woke up to this morning. It's moving fast and I feel quite helpless.


01/08/2007, 07:23 AM
What are your ca/alk/mag levels? That and what test brands/monitors are you using to test these and the pH? If using a pH meter how long since you calibrated and with what brand calibration solutions?

01/08/2007, 07:24 AM
Wow! Never seen anything like that before. I'm sure someone here will be able to help you out though. I do have a few questions that I think would help others help you.

Are the fish doing ok? How bout the powder brown tang?

Nitrate = ???

What happens if you manually try to 'blow' it off your corals with say... a turkey baster?

Also, has your skimmer been pulling out more/less funk than normal?

How long since a water change? and what % changed?

Best of luck, hope you get this cleared up.

01/08/2007, 07:31 AM
Fish are fine so far. 10 gallon water change (it's a 75) 3 days ago. The skimmer is working overtime, but I think that's due to the amount of particles in the water now.

Keep in mind, this is a living thing. When I look closely, all the dots on the "web" are moving.

I used a Seachem test kit. At this point though, it seems to be some sort of parasite or bacteria, not sure if my readings apply.

01/08/2007, 07:45 AM
Could they be tentacles from your other corals stinging the shrooms?

Just a guess because that is something I have never seen before.

Good Luck, hope you get it cleared up!

01/08/2007, 07:47 AM
I just wanted to clarify in the above post, my 3rd and 4th pictures are to show the web like covering that is swarming over the rock. It could be hard to see if your not looking for it, but that's what I was trying to show.

01/08/2007, 08:35 AM
Are there little tube like outcroppings on the rocks that the webs are coming from? The "things" moving around and on the webs are pods as any parisite or bacteria that could have been brought in wouldn't show up that way.

Your alk levels would def. be relative in this situation as I suspect a possible low alk.

In the one pic it looks like some cyano and dino's forming. Possibly too much phyto. Are you following the dosing instructions?

Have you checked the tds output of your ro/di. That would also contribute to an algae and bacterial bloom.

01/08/2007, 09:03 AM
I can't see your pictures.

Check your phosphates. I had a phosphate spike once, and it affected my shrooms first.

01/08/2007, 09:07 AM
I have never seen anything like that but I think you need to ask some of the experts like Anthony Calfo, Eric Borneman etc.

01/08/2007, 09:07 AM
The spider-web like flossy film you're seeing is most likely coming from one or several of the corals as a response to being irritated. The copepods are getting all over that and making things look much worse.

You may want to consider doing at least a 30-50% water change and stop any other dosing that you've started in recent weeks.

01/08/2007, 10:09 AM
That is a bacterial infestation. Have you been adding anything like vinegar, sugar, acetate etc.. If so stop, that is what is fueling them.

01/08/2007, 10:27 AM
Are you siphoning out the stuff with your water changes? I'd at least start siphoning it out as best you can while trying to figure out what the heck it is...