Finally some shots of my 90g reef in the making

[michael43]

comments welcome...about 6 weeks old or so...I know I rushed ****

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[philip5510]

4 tangs in a 90 gallon... are u high?

[Wrench]

O ****, here we go again :rolleyes:

Nice tank :thumbsup:

[michael43]

Actually there are 5 tangs and they all seem fine so far.... does that make me "high"

[GSMguy]

yea ive got 5 tangs in a 5gallon and they love eacother never leave eachothers side and sleep in a pile

[Gundo5000]

I'm not one to Police but dude,

5 tangs
2 maroon clowns
1 saddleback clown
2 blennies
2 lionfish

Your tank is way overstocked.

[clayspst]

sweet tank.

[michael43]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9023155#post9023155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gundo5000
I'm not one to Police but dude,

5 tangs
2 maroon clowns
1 saddleback clown
2 blennies
2 lionfish

Your tank is way overstocked.

I know there's a lot of fish but the lions are coming out as soon as the nitrites in my other tank clear...and the sohal is going to a friend.. It will be 4 tangs, 3 clowns, 2 gobies and a blennie. Still a lot of fish but...thats what I am here for.. i see lot of tanks on here, some with even smaller tanks, with just as many or more fish.. I think my filtration, uv, etc is handling it and there seems to be no aggression from the fish...why is this wrong exactly? tank has been this stocked for 6 weeks now?!

[GSMguy]

you will find out when the tangs start to kill eachother and the maroons kill the saddleback or vise versa overstock is one thing incompatable fish is another

[michael43]

Will the tangs just snap, even though they have been fine for awhile now?

[GSMguy]

yea thats how it goes they start slicing and dicing weird cuz they look so sweet and kind

[Gundo5000]

6 weeks is still very young. The fish will progresively become more territorial. It could be war tomorro or war in a year, it's hard to tell. However, nothing good ever comes out of jamming a bunch of fish into any tank reguardless of size. Once one tang establishes his territory he may no longer let the other ones around it. This will only cause stress to the others and could bring disease to the whole tank. It is highly reccomended to have a 6ft. tank to house multiple tangs. In the wild they swim miles per day so 6ft. is not asking much. Although I cannot talk because I once had a 90 with a YT and a BT in it. I would have never thought to put in a sohal though. I think your making the right decision to get rid of the LF's and a tang or two.

[philip5510]

exactly

[sharrison]

this is my 5 gallon pico tank picka's i got 5 51/2 inch Yellow Tangs in dare. Get it? Dare? haha
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[GSMguy]

my tank is cooler lots of different kinds of tangs 2sohal two purple and 3 sailfin they love the space you get from a 5 galon

[philip5510]

bro, that tang has HILLE

not sure if that is how to spell it.

but thats what hes got

[philip5510]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9025783#post9025783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
my tank is cooler lots of different kinds of tangs 2sohal two purple and 3 sailfin they love the space you get from a 5 galon



wheres the tang police when you need them?

[GSMguy]

"breaking the law breaking the law"
quote*(beavis)

[philip5510]

my bad, i didnt know you were joking

[GSMguy]

i didnt know you were not

[philip5510]

hahaha

[GSMguy]

i have 3 small fish in my 50g i love tangs but its called impulse controll otherwise id have an octopuss and 2 sharks

[sharrison]

In my 100 gallon I have a 10 foot great white. His tail gets kind of dry. But that’s ok, it doesn’t matter if it hangs out of the tank. After all I got to do is splash a little faucet water on his tail and he's good to go for a couple a days. I so love my disease infested aqua-economy.

WEEEEEEEEEEEE

[michael43]

Thanks for all the criticism from the a$$holes on the board. its good to know that when a noob makes a mistake he is mocked and ridiculed for it. its a simple mistake and when the LFS is just selling u fish saying its gonna be ok...well.....I buy them. Some of you have been very helpful and I greatly appreciate it, others are just ignorant, as am I they have pointed out.

[GSMguy]

besides the fish choices great tank like the aquascaping you obviosly spend allot of time on the tank and it shows the tang thing is an ongoing joke sorry you got cought in it i love this forum and you should too reef central is not a place to be made fun of and i apologise
Nick

[michael43]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9037091#post9037091 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
besides the fish choices great tank like the aquascaping you obviosly spend allot of time on the tank and it shows the tang thing is an ongoing joke sorry you got cought in it i love this forum and you should too reef central is not a place to be made fun of and i apologise
Nick

;)

[sharrison]

Having fun is part of life. :)
So is learning :)

I think that I would not listen to that LFS any longer.
There is a wealth of knowledge in this forum. I would do some research on tank size recommendations for the type of fish that you are wanting to incorporate into your aquaria habitat.
Just remember the "Search" button is your friend and LFS's are out to make money.

[joshuasamuels]

So on a serious note, what kind of filtration you got on that 90 gal? and how much lighting? What skimmer did you go with and how big is your sump?

[michael43]

pro clear sump, no more bioballs really.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9038193#post9038193 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by joshuasamuels
So on a serious note, what kind of filtration you got on that 90 gal? and how much lighting? What skimmer did you go with and how big is your sump?


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[michael43]

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[Gundo5000]

I'd put some LR in place of the bioballs if you havent already. It helps to have some in the sump, just dont let any rubble get sucked into your pump.

[GSMguy]

i second the live rock ditch the bio balls

[t5Nitro]

Ya, some people can hammer you when overstocking tangs like that.
They are mainly getting at I think...
Sohal for one will get real aggresive toward the other 4 tangs over time, but you said you were moving him.
The sailfin tang can grow to around 16" I think, and some people say they don't fit a 180 sometimes.
You can probably do what you have in there for now, but when they start going at it, take the bully out. I'm sure you could get away with possibly 2 of the smaller tangs without having to get rid of them later. The kole and the other zebrasoma one you have in there will probably be fine.
If the filtration can handle it and you don't have any off water quality, you are good to go with the tangs, just watch out for them until they start fighting.

[michael43]

Something like that is exactly what i want to hear. Still got the point across that I overstocked but threw it at me the right way! Sohal is out now... the last 4 are getting along fine so far but I do know that without a tank upgrade the clown and sailfin will end up having to go and then ill get a chevron.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9056747#post9056747 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by t5Nitro
Ya, some people can hammer you when overstocking tangs like that.
They are mainly getting at I think...
Sohal for one will get real aggresive toward the other 4 tangs over time, but you said you were moving him.
The sailfin tang can grow to around 16" I think, and some people say they don't fit a 180 sometimes.
You can probably do what you have in there for now, but when they start going at it, take the bully out. I'm sure you could get away with possibly 2 of the smaller tangs without having to get rid of them later. The kole and the other zebrasoma one you have in there will probably be fine.
If the filtration can handle it and you don't have any off water quality, you are good to go with the tangs, just watch out for them until they start fighting.

[GSMguy]

michael your the man sorry about being a dork to you

[Mark Lauzon]

more info on the 300 gal string ray pond?

[nauti1us]

nice...

[michael43]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9062515#post9062515 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mark Lauzon
more info on the 300 gal string ray pond?

hope no one minds since they are freshwater....

[CTS]

First off, you have a very nice tank. I love the rock setup.

second just for my knowledge (because i hope to get about a 120g tank someday) what is the tank size to fish ratio anyway. I have a 10g with one fish I would like to add one or 2 more small ones.

[t5Nitro]

Do you mean fish inches per gallons? Don't go by that rule. Such as tangs, maybe 6-10" fish or so for some of them, but they need 6' or longer tanks in some cases, there is a 150 gallon custom made tank that is 4 feet long and this guy houses 5 tangs and they all get along well. Just all depends I guess, more room the better.
For the 10 gallon, I would think something real small, clown gobies, or a firefish type of thing maybe.

[reefried]

hi michael, I dont want to critisize, but way to many fish for a reef, but is it a reef or a fowler? Lions dont work out in a reef, they are HUGE wastemakers, especially if you feed them live feeders. but i love the aquascaping and the set up I'm a firm uv supporter i love them. Couldn't you have gotten away with the 9w i believe it works up to a 125gal. i have a 75gallon with 6 fish, and the nitrate is always 0 (a pair of percs, a hippo tang{the size of a quater}a pair of Lyretail Anthias, and a small neon gobby) dont let people with small tanks or inadequate filtration effect your dreams

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9075317#post9075317 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by michael43
hope no one minds since they are freshwater....
just a couple pics and a description could not hurt its your thread

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9076952#post9076952 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CTS
First off, you have a very nice tank. I love the rock setup.

second just for my knowledge (because i hope to get about a 120g tank someday) what is the tank size to fish ratio anyway. I have a 10g with one fish I would like to add one or 2 more small ones.
depends on the size of the tank some 4 inch fish can go in a 40 gallon but some 6inch fish like tangs a 90 would be minimum
so it depends of the fish you want and the size of your tank