Who has a French Angelfish?

[Gordonious]

I am trying to find other owners of French Angelfish(Pomacanthus paru). I have one now that will probably soon be housed with a moray eel and I was curious as to who else out there actually owns one and what they are housing theres with. I have probably heard of only a handful of people keeping them in the past and all of them either didn't know how big they got or just planned on taking them back to the LFS when they got to big(which I think is a poor practice).

NOTE: <U><B>PLEASE</B></U> do not debate with me in this thread about keeping these animals in captivity. If you want to you can send me a PM(Private message).

Jon

[Nocturnal]

I used to own one. Had him for 3-4 years. What a wonderful fish.
Had him from when he was juvi at 4" until he became adult coloration and was 12" long.

I had to sell him, due to his size, to a dude with a 440 gallon tank.

[Nocturnal]

Sorry, forgot to answer your other questions.

He was housed with a large Emperor angel, large vlamingii tang and a few small fish (chromis and such)

[Gordonious]

I was thinking a tang may be the way to go. Chromis might just be a snack for the eel though. Thanks for your response. Is this person on RC at all?

Jon

[maro1]

I have a French in my tank with a Emp, annularis, Naso tang, bunch of chromis.

He is great about 8" long

Mar:rollface:

[JamesJR]

I used to keep one when I worked at the zoo. It was in a tank that was about the size of a decent sized bathroom with a Large Green Moray, a good sized batfish, 3 nurse sharks, adult sergent majors and a good sized assortment of Monos and a scat. French angels are great fish and if you get a healthy one they are tough as nails.


I just typed in green moray and this image looks it may be the tank it was in.

http://whozoo.org/Intro99/dougherty/jimdmoray.htm

[mistergn10]

Mine is about 13 inches long and he is in with a White Mouth EEL and other angels and tangs and triggers no problems here.

Here he is.



http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/foxmx1/mike/DSC00970.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/foxmx1/mike/DSC00988.jpg

[Gordonious]

Awesome. Thank you so much everyone. I was a bit scared and wanted to be cautious. My gf was also a bit scared and she would be as heart broken as me if anything happened to my angel or if it was mean or hurt anyone. She loves the little guy. Last time she came over she said to me, "I've always wanted to read in and pet it, like it's a dog or something". Meanwhile it's getting super hyper saying hi to her and begging for food. I swear I feed the thing at least 6 times a day and it never turns down a bite.

[clekchau]

mistergn10, love the tank, can you post more pictures and your stocking list?

[Nocturnal]

Beautiful Tank MisterGN10

[vijaym85]

I have an 8 inch frecnh with a few angels and a bunch of tangs. One thing I can say to summarize this fish is eating machine. this fish will honestly never stop eating. It can gobble down whole sheets of seaweed from Ocean nutrition. it does chase the smaller angels but only to get them to stay away from him then he goes back to his own buisness. He gets along best with the Queen angel, both are carribean fish and so they seem to do well together

[Gordonious]

that's funny I thought those two were supposed to be bad together.
jon

[Gordonious]

What type of tangs do you have? vijaym85

[vijaym85]

Naso, purple, yellow, clown, PBT, sohal, and hippo been mixed for several months now. I added the sohal last. minor squabbles but still not bad.

[Gordonious]

What does everyong think about me keeping an achilles tang with the eel and French Angel?

[Gordonious]

No feedback on the achilles? What does everyone think about a Purple Tang - Zebrasoma xanthurus in the mix?

[Miamireefer]

Mister GN10...gorgeous fish man and btw.... I miss my GN :) but man being in a hood every weekend was getting OLD!

[coco21]

I have an 11 inch french in my tank .a 7 inch blue face angel .a 7 inch nazo tang a 21 inch snow flake eel a 7 inch dog face puufer a 7 inch sailfin tang a 4 inch fox face have the tank over 3 years check my gallery...............

[Gordonious]

Sweet coco21. I'll have to make sure my gf doesn't read this. She loves the dog face puffers. I have never liked them.(understatement) What size tank is that?

Jon

[coco21]

this is a 100 galon tank .....I would like to up grate this summer to a 175 gal tank ........I NEED TO MOVE THIS GUYS TO A BIGGER HOUSE........

[coco21]

PUFFER UR COOL................

[trueperc]

I have a 5 inch french juv just starting transition. I got him when he was 2inch. One of my favs. His tanks mates are a large majestic, med flagin, med emperor, small singapor, tiny queen, regal tang, large sailfin tang, a med Achillies, moorish idol, mandrine, lawnmower blenny and a mate pair of Maroon clowns. All doing great. Never have a problem with any Angel Aggression and to note, these are are in my reef tank.

[clekchau]

coco, how does your french get along with the blueface?

[Gordonious]

Watch the French when it gets older and your corals. Personality and huger is bound to change. How do you like the Achilles? Any estimate to it's size?

[trueperc]

I choose my corals accordingly to my fish. I had mostly SPSs, but lost them to a srew up with salinty and stopping a carbon source. But all fish where fine. I am temping a few lps's The fish also get feed small amounts of food serval times a day plus nori. So far so good with the Angles. My Achillies is about 6 inches.

[coco21]

CLEKCHAU..... NO PROBLEMS. AND THEY BEEN TOGETHER FOR 3 YEARS.

[Gordonious]

Based on the temperment and personalities of the animals what size Achillies would you recommend for a tank with a 4'' French Angel?

[MadZ]

Hi all i have a 3 1/2 inch french that gets along well with the rest of the gang ie. 4 1/2"arabian angel, 4 1/2"king angel, 3"blueface angel and some other smaller fishes like the orchid dottyback, red wrasse, tomini tang, fire clown, damsel, algae blenny, orange spotted blenny, royal gamma and a longnose hawkfish. They all get along peacefully in a 100gallon tank 4x2x2. I guess it is all about the order that you intoduce them, and well quarantined fishes makes happy fishes. Just my 2 cents worth of thoughts. Ta....

[Gordonious]

The qt part and all of the trouble with introducing a new animal is why I jumped when a reef cub member said he was going to sell his live stock including a nice tag. He has had it a while and his tank is doing very well. It is about the same size as my French so it will go in first.

Jon

[Gordonious]

MadZ I am sure one advatnge you have is numbers. I am starting to think about adding more and more fish. a bully in with two tank mates can do more damage then it would be able to do if it had ten tank mates it felt it had to pick on.

[clekchau]

i wouldn't take the african cichlid "lockerroom" approach, some people pull it off but it's rare

[Gordonious]

I won't go to the extreme, but I'm thinking 3 might be a little too little. Especially since the eel will sit at the bottom, so the only ones constantly swimming will be the eel and the tang.

[MadZ]

Gordonious....my advise is for you to try if possible to add more fishes in your tank so as to distract your tank #1 bully from just picking on one or two in particular. Yes my french nowadays swims peacefully, but my arabian angel has this particular hobby at chasing my tomini tang. Otherwise they all co inside in harmony. I also have quite a good flow in my tank so if they want to attack they would have to swim real hard (harder than normal i mean lol) to get the aimed target. Slight chasing around is normal for my tank. My king used to bully everyone but now it has mellowed down. Good luck to you.

[Gordonious]

Thanks MadZ, now I just have to find an Achillies of decent size that will fit my budget. Then consider other possible tank mates. What about a Porcupine Puffer?

Jon

[MadZ]

porcupine puffer not recommended gordonious since if it is bullied it will puff up and release i think toxin into your tank. How about other fishes like clown trigger? Colorful fish with mad personality. But this is just my two cents worth of opinion

[mistergn10]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9295316#post9295316 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Miamireefer
Mister GN10...gorgeous fish man and btw.... I miss my GN :) but man being in a hood every weekend was getting OLD!

Yea I hear you on that one. I sold mine about 8 months ago for the same reason. I did keep my ZR-1 Corvette though :D

[mistergn10]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9112538#post9112538 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clekchau
mistergn10, love the tank, can you post more pictures and your stocking list?

Soory I did not respond sooner. I will try to take a few today after work and post them.

Stocking list
small purple tang
11-12 inch French Angel
5-6 Queen Angel
5-6 Passer Angel
Pair of blue jaw triggers
Hawian Black Trigger
8 inch red crois wrasse
8-9 porkypine puffer
5-6 inch sohal tang
White mouth eel
mexican Dragon eel

in a about 3 month I should have a 560 gallon tank set up to move all these fish into. I can not wait till then.

[Gordonious]

mistergn10 has a puffer. I think the chance of them releasing any toxins into the tank is pretty minimal, but I could be wrong. Smaller box fish I think are more likely and they usually have to be pushed pretty far to do that. My gf keeps pushing for a dogface... They are so ugly!

Jon

[Water Box]

My stock list:

French Angel about 10"-11" (got it at about 2" about 6 years back)
Maculosis Angel 8"
Bi Color Angel
Flame Hawk
Blue Jaw Trigger
Purple Tang
2 Green Chromis
Some type of black colored damsel (that a friend had and couldn't get rid of)

The French has always been my favorite marine angel (if it wasn't I would have taken that bully eating machine out a long time ago)

[maro1]

Most likely your bluejaw will eat the chromis and any others that are small. I think you may be happier with the look of a school of Chromis, say 8-10 instead of the trigger

Mar:rollface:

[Gordonious]

Two people with purple tangs and French Angels, that's a good sign. I wonder if anyone has had an Achillies in with one. My gf is tempting me with the dogface saying she will pay for it, but I know she can't afford it.

[Water Box]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9338383#post9338383 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by maro1
Most likely your bluejaw will eat the chromis and any others that are small. I think you may be happier with the look of a school of Chromis, say 8-10 instead of the trigger

Mar:rollface:

They have been together for 2 years. The chromis are about 2" and the Blue Jaw about 4". I have found that the Blue Jaw is very possibly one of the most docile triggers out there. That is not to say any trigger when hungry might pound whatever it sees but he is fed well with Krill and Form 1. The only real bullies in the tank are the french and Flame hawk.

[Water Box]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9338738#post9338738 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gordonious
Two people with purple tangs and French Angels, that's a good sign. I wonder if anyone has had an Achillies in with one. My gf is tempting me with the dogface saying she will pay for it, but I know she can't afford it.

I should have added this to the post above:

The introduction of the purple tang was a bit shaky. He did not back down from the French and for a few minutes I thought I might have made a disasterous mistake. After the sand settled the pecking order was reaffirmed and all has been quiet since. That was about 6 months ago.

[Gordonious]

You think it will be much better if I put the purple in first? That was the plan. I am thinking about adding more LR now to give things a chance to get away from each other and hide.

Jon

[maro1]

I have found that concerning Angels visual barriers helps with any aggression issue. In your case. I'd go with the More Live Rock first.

Mar:rollface:

[Gordonious]

More expenses, lol. Nice. Thanks Mar I'm going to try to talk with http://www.marcorocks.com/ and see if I can find some larger peices for my tank.

[Gordonious]

I think I am going to try at porkypine puffer.

[Gordonious]

I have quarantined a porcupine puffer and had the eel in the system for a while. The purple tang is still to come. I was thinking of moving the puffer into my main display because it has been in qt for several weeks now and I am worried about the water chemistry in the little qt(20g).

Do you think the puffer will bother the snowflake out of boredom if it is just the two of them in the 75g tank?