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diesel10
02/20/2007, 08:13 PM
I have had him about a month now.

Mantle seems retracted slightly and is not extending vigorously like my other croceas. I see some sliming or bubbling from the mantle frequently.

I dont see any snails on him, but did notice a few extremely small starfish. Very small ones. Not the brittle stars though.

I suspect microbubbles from the return and the sump are irrititating his mantle? could that be an issue?

Thanks for ideas. Or maybe thats just the way he is and theres nothing wrong??

http://antinori.us/fs/maxima_100.jpg

http://antinori.us/fs/maxima_101.jpg

http://antinori.us/fs/maxima_102.jpg

diesel10
02/20/2007, 08:15 PM
the clam is also up at the top near the lights, 250w 10k XMs

Ventralis321
02/20/2007, 08:43 PM
looks like pm to me but i could be wrong. Give it a freshwater dip for like 10 min. Don't place this clam near your other clams if you have any. PM spreads through proximity. I battled PM and lost like 7 clams.

mbbuna
02/20/2007, 09:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9292029#post9292029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ventralis321
looks like pm to me but i could be wrong. Give it a freshwater dip

you are correct, but give the dip for at least 20 min.

diesel10
02/20/2007, 10:02 PM
OK thank you. This is actually the first time I have heard of PM. I will try the dip and let you know. My other clams are off on the other side of the tank I will watch them closely now for PM as well.

edwing206
02/20/2007, 10:09 PM
PM is pinched mantle right?

capefear
02/20/2007, 10:40 PM
i only do a 5 min. fwd on maximas. 20 is way to long.

mbbuna
02/20/2007, 10:43 PM
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1039931

Chaotic Reefer4u
02/21/2007, 01:23 PM
hope it gets better...

jmaneyapanda
02/21/2007, 07:42 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9293058#post9293058 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capefear
i only do a 5 min. fwd on maximas. 20 is way to long.

Incorrect.

capefear
02/22/2007, 01:09 AM
correct.

rustypixel
02/22/2007, 09:48 AM
Wait. I'm a newbie looking to learn about clams as I'd like at least one in an upcoming tank. I had no idea that fresh water dips were acceptable for a clam. So, not trying to hijak the thread, but what is a good recommended time for a FWD for a Crocea and what exactly are we accomplishing with this dip?

Thanks and sorry for going OT... sort of.

a4twenty
02/22/2007, 03:48 PM
a FWD is used to treat a clam which has PM ( Pinched Mantle ) which is a protozoan infestation. you would use RO/DI water treated to match the tanks Ph and temp and should last for 20 to 30 min, 5 min is not long enough.

i remember a thread where the guy dipped all his clams for 20 min except for his new maxima which he dipped for 5 min only. later that night the maxima started showing signs of PM again which quickly spread to the rest of clams again.

HTH

diesel10
02/24/2007, 12:20 AM
update: I did 2 FWDs for 15 minutes and the clam is doing alot better. I waited 48 hours between dips.

ezcompany
02/24/2007, 03:20 AM
during the fwds make sure you blast it with a turkey baster to get under the protective mucus. (thx chris for the tip)

Bandsaw
02/24/2007, 04:30 PM
I have a Squamosa that is not extending its mantle recently. I have examined him for pests and parasites, but have not seen any. There are long stringly things in and around him.

Forgive my ignorance, but are there any other tell tail signs of PM other than the obvious fact that the clam is not extending its mantle.

Other info, the clams reflex is still very good and my Crocea looks as nice as he always does.

Thanks

Alace
02/27/2007, 11:24 PM
I am kinda new to clams myself and have 3 now... all look good but I did have some in the past and think I lost them to PM.. are there some types of clams that get PM easer or just any clam?

isseym328
02/28/2007, 04:14 PM
Any clam can get them. But when pm first started showing up there were more maximas that were getting affected then others. Maybe the protozoans started with the maximas first then spread to other types.

reefkoi
03/01/2007, 03:53 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9358777#post9358777 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by isseym328
Any clam can get them. But when pm first started showing up there were more maximas that were getting affected then others. Maybe the protozoans started with the maximas first then spread to other types.

I thought we dont know that it is a protozoan? Where have you got this info?

ezcompany
03/01/2007, 04:39 PM
its definitely leaning towards the protozoan. even if we're 100% sure its a protozoan, there's a krapload of them out there.
what we do know is croceas seem to be more susceptible to the disease.

reefkoi
03/01/2007, 04:47 PM
So it used to be maximas having it, now its croceas more?
It doesnt affect Gigas, Derasa, or Squamosas?

ezcompany
03/01/2007, 07:00 PM
no, from the beginning, it was croceas prone to having them. if you ask me, i think croceas are the most vulnerable, then maximas, then the larger ones.

reefkoi
03/01/2007, 07:14 PM
Interesting................We'll have to see what happens with the R&D of this problem.