1200g Woody Horseshoe Reef

[VikeBron]

Well, here goes. I am helping my brother(waynesworld) finally get his monster u shape tank put together. Below are some pics of where we are so far. He built a 2800+ sq ft addition on his house and had the tank and tank room roughed in then. We will continue to add pics throughout the week on our progress.
Tank is
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Here is the side of the living room and hallway.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/vikebron/100_0629.jpg

Here is from the hot tub room.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/vikebron/100_0630.jpg

Some of the water movement weapons.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/vikebron/100_0628.jpg

Ok, blast away with ????

[carpus]

this looks cool. Did you consider having a rounded inside. That way flow wouldn't be so impeded. It would probably need to be custom acrylic tho. Not sure if you're using acrylic or glass.


NICE tunzes!

[dsandfort]

Hi fellas-

This looks like a really fun project and a very unique design. I have one big ?????

1200 gallon tank with who knows how much in sumps. Hot tub room.

I hope you have given serious consideration to humidity control.
(that was the question).

Oh, Oh...I have another. How are you going to seal the tank? Fiberglass/epoxy? Fiberglass/polyester?

[dsandfort]

Oops, thought of another.

How do you tune 3 waveboxes to the "frequency" of the tank?

[NeveSSL]

Wow... I can't wait until this one is done... I live in the same city was WaynesWorld... can't wait to see it!

Brandon

[adams0816]

is the hot tub the fuge??LOL:) at least you'd have temp control & it has its own jet system & probably even has tables for frags.

[VikeBron]

Hi Del,
1- There are vents in the fish room behind the tanks. The hot tub room will have humidity controlled fans going outside.
2-He is usins something called Sani Tred. It is used to seal alligator enclosures. After the 1st and 2nd coat of sealant, a liquid rubber sealant is then added.
3- He will only use 2 waveboxes....that means he has an extra, doesn't he...hmmmmmmm :)

[Angela Short]

Are you in town helping him Steve? First pics I have seen and all I can say is WOW! That is going to be super cool! I also see some dehumidifiers in one pic. to take care of some humidity problems. Are you all going to just fill it with tap? I couldn't imagin running all RO/DI in that thing, it would take a month!

Also in the rouph in plumbing did he install a drain from the tank to just open a valve for water changes?

[waynesworld]

Dell Well since it is salt water I that I would go get a tuna fish to tune the tunze. Actually I am not sure how the wave boxes will work we will have to play with them and if one is extra I am sure Steve will make room for one in his new 3,000 gal tank he will be building. You know how big brothers are so size conches to there little brothers. The Humidity will be controlled with a combo of vent to outside, Dehumidifiers and Central air.

Angela Steve is down here and I do have two drains one in the fish room and another in the hot tub room. I will be using the Kati Ani unit for filtering water so I will not have any waste water and be able to recharge the filters.

[Angela Short]

You will definetly have to host a meet when that thing is finnished!! Its gonna be nice!
Nothing wrong with a little brotherly competition! :)

[triggerfish1976]

Interested to see how those waveboxes are going to work on this tank. Did you check with Roger on the Tunze forum to make sure the frequencies will not negate each other when they hit at the connecting point?

[RobTheReefer]

He probably/should have bought one wavebox and two "wavebox extentions". That's why you see that Y adapter sitting there. Two of the waveboxes next to each other pushing while the other one on the other side of the tank is off and vice versa.

[laomedon]

I like that Idea of U shape tank some of the smaller fish may not even think that they are being kept in captivity :-)

[NICERICAN4YOU25]

I BE DEF FOLLOWING THIS ONE

[72olds455]

Man that is sweet, I'll be tagging along!

[clekchau]

that is going to be a great view

[Shnabbles]

nice cant wait to see more pics

[bbrantley]

Wow, very cool. Go Sani-tred! :)

Ben

[reef fanatic]

tagging on to this one, looks schweet from here so far

[waynesworld]

Well we got the overflows built and Steve had to go home I am now trying to figure out were to mount screws for all the tunze equipment I want to have different options so what I am planning on doing is to drill holes in a 1x4 like 3 or 4 even spaced so I can glue the nylon screws to the board then attach it to the tank and seal it when I seal the tank. The problem is I want to prepare if I want to move it around for flow but don't want 100 screws in the tank sticking out. I am thinking that I will have a rock wall that will cover most of the screws and also camo the pumps some.

[cbui2]

man tank now days don't get any bigger, very nice build and of course alot of strong movement, so many corals are goin to be very happy...keep it up looking great

[cbui2]

any updates on build, progess, or pics

[VikeBron]

Wayne is painting the fish room in the back of the tank with waterproof paint as I type. I will be going out there next Sun. for work and to help him some more.

[waynesworld]

I got fist coat on now have to use extra paint in the paint room before it get to thick.

[Sully_z]

Now that is wild.

[waynesworld]

Ok got the pic upladed so here they are.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1662.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1665.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1659.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1656.jpg

Before:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1631.jpg

[Clown-N-Around]

Awesome Wayne & Steve!

Very nicely planned addition. I think the tank fits in with the layout beautifully.

[tgunn]

I just asked my wife if I could do that in the basement and she said, "Sure!". Do you think that's a legal and binding verbal contract despit the sarcastic response? :lol: :lol:

[spstimie]

when do we get to see the inside of the tank room?

[thisisme]

looks great looking forward to seeing the end result

[klasiksb]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9505477#post9505477 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tgunn
I just asked my wife if I could do that in the basement and she said, "Sure!". Do you think that's a legal and binding verbal contract despit the sarcastic response? :lol: :lol:

in my world yes, but I have trouble hearing sarcasim :twitch:

[VikeBron]

I told my wife I would put in a new bay window in the great room that houses the 375 if I could get a bigger tank(didn't tell her it would be neccessary to get the new tank in the house). She gave me this strange look and said "you can have as big a tank as you want..........................as soon as we get a bigger house:(

[Alphabet]

Looking awesome keep the progress pics coming! Looks lika a great build!

[ricanboy57]

is the acrylic going to be placed along the back as well? If so ohw is it going to handle the presure of the small boards running along the back? Or are you going to use the back as is with it sealec (with no acrylic?)

[xtm]

That's insane. Can't wait to see more pics! so I guess the center of the tank will be the equipment room?

[waynesworld]

Well got the seams done and now need to do the rubber liner that will have to be tomorrow I hope. I decided to use low iron glass from glass cages so I will try to pick it up on Tuesday or Friday.

all the sides except the front viewing pane will be plywood sealed with the sanetread product.

[crescent1]

wow,you are a brave man.

[ricanboy57]

i agree. I'd be afraid something wasn't sealed perfectly and over time something gave way. but then again who know if any of our "normal" tanks won't just give way.

[VikeBron]

The only way something will give way with the structure of that thing is an earthquake. It is built like a brick you-know-what. Wayne needs to show a shot of the back room. Insanely studded and double 3/4 plywood throughout.
The sealing is a slow and difinitive process(are you listening Wayne) and with being a wood tank, needs to be done to a tee. The stuff he is using is also used to house alligators and crocs. With the number of coats he is using(4-5....right Wayne:) he should be safe.

[waynesworld]

Well there will be at least 3 but the 2nd is a very thick rubber coat and I got about double the recommended amount but better safe then sorry.

[ricanboy57]

That sounds like a lot of support. Like you said, with it being a wood tank that stuff has to be done to a tee. I'm too much of a wuss to try something like that.

[Tigger240]

ive heard alot about stock tanks giving away at the seams. and stock tanks are only warrenteed if you have them on their stands too. 60 hexs, 180s giving away at the bottom center long panel, 150 cracked the front pane on a fw, ect...

[oxbeard]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9514076#post9514076 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tigger240
ive heard alot about stock tanks giving away at the seams. and stock tanks are only warrenteed if you have them on their stands too. 60 hexs, 180s giving away at the bottom center long panel, 150 cracked the front pane on a fw, ect...

I don't want to even think of such possibilities:eek2: :eek2:

Can't wait to see this progress even further, just noticed last night waynesworld that you're in TN too.

[pimp2daizzo]

Looks good....
I have a friend u uses to work whit who make a wood tank that is over 2000 gal.


good luck

[TripleP]

any new updates

[TripleP]

any new updates

[Zoos]

Looks like it's going to be a great build, looking forward to some new updates and pics.

[mclc26]

I love that horseshoe design...That's going to look incredible!

I will be following this one...I'm in the market for a new house and your design has given me some ideas for what I'd like to put in the new place.

Looking forward to more updates and pics...

[NeveSSL]

Do you think he has enough room for a tang? :D

oxbeard....

You should come join us on the Middle TN Reef Club forum!

Brandon

[oxbeard]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9566151#post9566151 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NeveSSL
Do you think he has enough room for a tang? :D

oxbeard....

You should come join us on the Middle TN Reef Club forum!

Brandon

Thanks, I'm actually in ETN. I have been lurking in both local forums though.

[Brandan]

I wish I lived in TN just so I could come check this out . . . WOW

[VikeBron]

Glass is going in as I type. One piece in and two to go. Pics later.

[nyvp]

nice going, great idea

[VikeBron]

Two down and 1 to go.
Wish us luck. There are liquid refreshments being consumed:)

[chadscharf]

Steve, when you're done putting in the last pane and feel like takin' a break give me a call.

[VikeBron]

All starfire glass is in:thumbsup: Doing some spot sealing and then to the 1st coat of sealer. That may have to wait til morn as we may hit the Nashville scene tonight. Anyone want to meet for a cold one?

[NeveSSL]

Well, if his extra room ends up underwater, you'll only have yourselves to blame. ;)

Pictures are a must after you get all the glass in!

Brandon

[NeveSSL]

When are you guys planning on putting water in?

Brandon

[waynesworld]

Well we will have to wait as I was in the garage the two brothers seemed to make a 10 foot piece of glass into a 6 foot piece. Dang I wish Glass Cages was open 24 hours. oh well we will prob get it monday.

[VikeBron]

That's what you get for letting us drink on the job:)

[NeveSSL]

Does Glass Cages carry Starphire glass?

Brandon

[VikeBron]

Yep. All three pieces were from them. Good price too.
I think we zigged or zagged or pushed or pulled when we should have stood back and taken another pull on the Coors Light:)

[dsandfort]

Wayne-Not sure what you're paying, but you obviously need to look in a more skilled labor pool. Perhaps Vo-Tech at the local home for wayward boys/girls. I've also heard that typewriter maintenance schools have qualified personnel.

Steve-You know that offer to transport glass. Well.....thanks anyway.

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9616897#post9616897 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NeveSSL
Does Glass Cages carry Starphire glass?

Brandon

LINK (http://glasscages.com/?sAction=ViewCat&lCatID=58)

[VikeBron]

Well, we had a slight problem. As stated above, a 10 footer is now a 8 footer. S#$%% happens. We will get a new piece of glass from Glass Cages on Mon. and be set. Stupid mistake. I told Wayne if the biggest mistake only costs him $300 he is lucky. I will post some pics of the other two sides tomorrow.

Del....thanks for the vote of confidence:)

Da...me thinks...we....not...have nuff beer....


Hey Del, I think we now have your piece of starfire....96x36 1/2 inch..............cheap too!

[thriceanangel]

Note on Sani-Tred as I was considering using it as well. But upon further scrutiny, you need to seal it with epoxy ANYWAY like MAS or west. But you could save money and just use the epoxy. The reason you must use epoxy is for UV protection- the sani-tred WILL break down unless you get their UV proof stuff, but guess what- the UV proof stuff isn't good for aquariums because of the chemicals used to make it. Don't know if I am too late, but save yourself some money and just use the epoxy.

[waynesworld]

I knew that but I didn't want to use just use epoxy as it is not strong enough for the type of tank that I am getting, The paint or 2 part is just a UV protectant not a sealer.

[thriceanangel]

Lots of people have used just the epoxy, it is very strong, and it's a very effective sealant.

Here is a link that may be useful. These guys know quite a bit about building tanks with plywood.

http://fingerlakesreef.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13

[tabndust]

any new pics?

[shouldabenacowboy]

following along......looks cool

sbc

[NanoReefWanabe]

need pics........like a portly kid needs smarties..MORE MORE MORE....

this is so awesome i wish i had the room, time and money for something like this..LOL and a wife that would let me do it..

[VikeBron]

We primed the edges of the glass and will be putting it in tomorrow along with shooting the first coat of sani-tred. Will post pics tomorrow.

[drummereef]

Hey, you said you'd post pics tomorrow and that was 3 days ago. :D Can't wait! :)

[VikeBron]

Took a small break. I am here working too so I can pay for my addiction:)

[frankie33]

BUMP
this is an incredible build, LOVE the shape! definately tagging along, more pics!!

[xenon]

This Thread Needs More PICS!!! :eek2:

[waynesworld]

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1698.jpg

Here is my now extra piece of glass :)

[Rendos]

How did it break?

[waynesworld]

We took a shortcut of course and didn't use even pressure on the bracing.

[waynesworld]

Here are a couple of shots of the inside with the external overflows.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1700.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1702.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1704.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/waynesworld67/Tank%20Build/IMG_1705.jpg

There are 6 dedicated lines with only 2-3 boxes on each.

[jnarowe]

wow, I cannot even imagine this kind of project...you are the NAD KING!

[20 20]

Where is the sump going?

[thisisme]

looking good can not wait until there is live stock pics lol

[waynesworld]

Still looking at sump locations we will put the stuff in and move it around a little while the paint cures in the end will have 7 days of nothing to work on that.

[cbui2]

now my tank look likes a nano compare to this one, lol..i like the way everything coming together, great work guys. keep them coming

[onthecraperpimp]

anything new on your tank?

[chris wright]

Wow what a great idea. Looks like its going to a mad tank when its finished.

Im wondering, are you going to line the studs on the inside of the horseshoe and waterproof it also?

Good luck with the build and cant wait to see more progress pics :)

[drummereef]

updates? :rolleyes:

[thisisme]

looking forward to seeing what you have done now

[VikeBron]

OK everyone. After filling....... and then draining and filling....and then draining again...and filling......and, yep....draining again....it now is water tight and looking awesome. I know somewhere in the previous posts someone didn't think waveboxes would work in a U shape tank.....NOT. Unbelieveable! We have to turn it down or it would go over the sides. The wave goes all around the U to the other side. I am going to video it tomorrow for all to see. There is so much movement in this thing with 2 waveboxes and 2 6100s. Too cool. We are still going to put another 4 6100s in. After the LR is in I would imagine it will tame the flow a little.

[charlesjordanjr]

Wow! this is going to be great!
-Chuck

[NeveSSL]

Indeed! This is going to be awesome!

Especially since you live about 5 miles from me. :D

We'll have to meet up sometime, Wayne and Steve. I'll hopefully be able to attend the next MTRC meeting.

Anyways, we need pics and videos! :)

Brandon

[asmodeus]

This is going to be sweet

[waynesworld]

Well surfs up this am we have to get a video of this you would not believe it. I think I am going to start to put salt and rock in today after going to Jack Daniels house. We might have the fight on and have some friends over and eat some of the brats that we have since our relay for life got washed out last night.

BTW here is a link to my daughters RFL team if anyone is interested.
http://www.acsevents.org/faf/donorR...8BFCEDEF720F693

[cbui2]

cant wait to see video, great updates guys looking forward to it.:eek1:

[jnarowe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9882488#post9882488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by waynesworld
Well surfs up this am we have to get a video of this you would not believe it. I think I am going to start to put salt and rock in today after going to Jack Daniels house. We might have the fight on and have some friends over and eat some of the brats that we have since our relay for life got washed out last night.

BTW here is a link to my daughters RFL team if anyone is interested.
http://www.acsevents.org/faf/donorR...8BFCEDEF720F693

What fight? Is there an MMA fight tonight???

[huge1day]

De La Hoya vs Mayweather biggest fight of the year so far.

[jnarowe]

oh, boxing...thanks! :D

[frankie33]

this tank is so awesome, dieing to see some updates!!

[Scottkelly911]

Ok we need the video posted on Youtube, come on guys lets see that wavebox in action!

[VikeBron]

I am back home in CO and Wayne had a rough week with his daughter being in Vanderbilt Hospital getting chemo so maybe he can get something up this week. Sorry to lead everyone on but we didn't have the time.

[frankie33]

well I think I can speak for everyone following this thread by saying that's quite alright! I'm participating in the walk for life held by my college and encourage everyone to check out similar opportunities in their areas!

[cbui2]

omg steve sorry to hear about the daugther. hope the best for wayne and his daughter. i know how it is since i have 4 boys myself.

[Bax]

Family first ... sorry for all your troubles. Hope it all works out

[TIMMYE]

Family first.....I know the tank is family, but your realy family. Best of luck with your daughter!!!

[TIMMYE]

Family first.....I know the tank is family, but your realy family. Best of luck with your daughter!!!

[TIMMYE]

Family first.....I know the tank is family, but your realy family. Best of luck with your daughter!!!

[tattooreef]

very sorry to read about your daughter as a father i cant even imagine the stress and worry that has put u under best wishes to you , your family and especially your daughter. hate to even ask at this point but if u could point me in the right direction for the sealant or apoxy or whatever it is used to seal wood for marine use whenever you get the chance it would be greatly appreciated

[waynesworld]

I used a product from sani-tred
http://www.sanitred.com/

it works great when done right if you are going to use it you could pm me your phone number and I will call you and talk to you about it.

[thriceanangel]

If you use are thinking about using epoxy, I wouldn't go with sani tred because it's not UV safe- it'll break down over time, and even sanitred says you have to use a UV safe epoxy anyway. Best bet is to use one of these:
http://jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/main.do;jsessionid=17D27B55827FBB68D15DEF98F29939F5
http://www.masepoxies.com/index.htm
http://www.epoxy5050.com/

But I'd use the last one- best bang for the buck. They're used on boats so they are definitely UV safe, and should be all you need.

[jnarowe]

I wouldn't just "trust" marine coatings. I sell them and they all have their strong as well as weak points. That's why there are so many.

You might also look into Durabak (http://www.nonslipcoating.com/) coatings. I used it on my wooden loading dock and that is really extremely tough stuff. It is essentially like treating the wood with a truck bed liner. It has stood up to incredible abuse and I am very impressed with it.

Big warning: Most of these coatings are extremely noxious so you need to be prepared for that.

And another company to check out is Tennant (http://www.tennantco.com/na-en/products/coatings.aspx). These guys make top line coatings, many of which are low or zero VOC.

[VikeBron]

On this tank, the Sani-Tred was covered over with a UV protective paint.

[Mr.Biggs]

What paint was used?

[purebullet417]

when you get a chance please show some updated pics as this tank is awsome

[VikeBron]

I'll call my brother and find out if he doesn't see this today. I talked to him last night. He has some live rock put in but it is not arranged. The tank is on the back burner right now as he is dealing with health issues with his daughter.

[Jack04]

bump

[thriceanangel]

I know people hat have used the three posted successfully. Most blush free marine epoxy resins are suitable, some are better than others

[em5tech]

very cool tank!!!!

[costeroma]

looks like is going to be a very nice looking tank.can't wait to see some more pics. Good luck with everything.

[neverwouldof]

interested in seeing more pics as you finish !!!

[VikeBron]

Well guys, the tank is being drained and put on the back burner. Wayne just doesn't have the time to continue. He is going to focus on his little girl and his family. She is going to be starting the long chemo treatments on the 3rd and could be in the hospital all month. No time for reefing.
Please say a prayer for Amanda tonight.
Thanks

[jwhyne]

Best of luck to you, I wish you and your daughter well!

[cbui2]

hope the best for Wayne and his family. we will be waiting when he gets a chance to come back and reef with us. I know how it is since my best friend few yrs back went through long term chemo treatments.

[chris wright]

Wish his daughter well for us all mate.

[muir]

Hey VikeBron,
Tell your bro I never got to get mine wet. Bummer that it is, it'll be there when time allows. All the best to your family and niece.

[GMFett]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10196859#post10196859 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by VikeBron
Please say a prayer for Amanda tonight.
Thanks

Amen brother. My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family, and most importantly Amanda.

[GMFett]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10196859#post10196859 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by VikeBron
Please say a prayer for Amanda tonight.
Thanks

Amen brother. My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family, and most importantly Amanda.

[tattooreef]

hey wayne best wishes to you and all your family and especially your daughter i know me and everyone else on here will guys on our minds and will all say a prayer for her

[erics3000]

I will also make prayer for your daughter and family. My Best.

[adddo]

Indeed my thoughts go out to the little girl.. How has the treatment worked sofar?

[waynesworld]

Well we are 4 treatments of radiation left and we will be done. Her last MRI was clean so we will have to take some new med to try to stop it from coming back as part of this study for the next 6 mths and then we should be done. The one thing that we have had going for us is our strong faith in the healing of Jesus to take care of her and her faith of no matter what she will win. A teacher told me that she herd my daughter tell a friend not to worry because even if she died she gets to go see Jesus. That just brought the teacher to tears as it does me too. I do appreciate all the positive comments on the boards as I wish I could have finished this I just can not seal the room off and get the ventilation I need yet to stop water problems to the house. I wish I would have taken a video of the wave makers in action though.

[jwccwj]

I'll say a prayer for your family Wayne,all the best from a fellow reefer up north.

Jamie.

[muir]

Wayne....... we are coming out of a tough time too. The wife (38) just finished up chemo and life is settling down again. Cancer is tough on the family and unspeakably hard on the patient. I also have a 1 year old daughter so I cant imagine the stress you've been under.

Love on her every chance you can

all the best

[tattooreef]

hey wayne glad to here that your daughter is doing better, and nice to see you back on. And i hope everything works out best wishes

[freetareef]

hey what ever happened with this build?

[NeveSSL]

It was never finished. Wayne is now in the process of moving. :)

Brandon