Almost 11 foot long tank!

[Jeremy Blaze]

I am going to start a big of a thread for this tank. It belongs to a good friend of mine who is internet challenged. I have been helping with the design, set up, etc...

Tank is a glass cages, 10ft 10"x24"x24" It will have two overflow boxes on the back.

Sump is going to be custom built, and will be 6ftx16"x16"

This will be a reef tank, with lots of fish. Stand will be finished this week, and we are expecting the tank next week.

He had a 125 that all livestock will be transfered from, as well as a lot of new stuff!

Pics to come soon.

[dc_909]

You know how people feel about not having pics in a thread and just giving us a tease?

[Jeremy Blaze]

I know, I know, but nothing is here to get pics of yet! I just wanted to make everyone get excited!

[TandN]

why only 24" ?

[Jeremy Blaze]

I think cost had a lot to do with that.

[scrager]

so it's a 10 foot tank, not almost 11

picky i know, but if it was like 10'10" you could say 'almost 11', but it's 10, so why not say 10' tank?

[Jeremy Blaze]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9416642#post9416642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by scrager
so it's a 10 foot tank, not almost 11

picky i know, but if it was like 10'10" you could say 'almost 11', but it's 10, so why not say 10' tank?


Umm, if you read the post, I said it is 10'10"x24"x24", so it is almost 11ft.

[King-Kong]

lol

[scrager]

oh, my eyes skipped over the 10ft

when i see 10", i expect the feet to be in the same notation: 10'10"

my bad, i appologize

[Jeremy Blaze]

No worries. I guess I should say, 130"x24"x24"

[KenT]

Depending on what he is going to keep, the only possible downside would be additional lighting, and extra equipment for water movement.

I love the idea of a long tank. Plenty of cruising room for fish, and room for a aquascaping.

[thor32766]

keep us posted that is the exact tank i was thinking of upgrading to for my tangs to have tons of swimming room.

[Jeremy Blaze]

The tank will have 3 islands of rock, center will be acros, outside ones with be mixed.

There will be several tangs, a school of anthias, a group of lubbocks, a pair of maroon clowns, etc...

I just talked to him and he was staining the stand, so I will try to get pics of it soon.

[Jeremy Blaze]

Water movement is what concerns me right now.

[Shnabbles]

pack that sucker with some tunze, and/or a couple closed loops

[OnlyCrimson]

Wave box and extension + some steams. Or you could just to a closed loop.

[Goldleaf Reef]

Dayum.......:eek1: what are you going to do with a almost 11 footer. That's a nice size tank. What is your plans for 'scaping ?

[A Reef Scene]

Use a OM with the 1-3, 2-4 pattern and a dart pump. Works Great .

[erics3000]

Sounds interesting.. Cant wait to see some pics...

[Jeremy Blaze]

Sorry for the delay. The tank should be in next week. Pics to come I promise!

[Jeremy Blaze]

HEre are some coral i am housing till the tank is ready. These are all huge show pieces!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1258.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1260.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1261.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1262.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1264.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1265.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1267.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IMG_1266.jpg

[Alphabet]

Nice pics!!

[zach0660]

why only 24"?

[Zoos]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9416590#post9416590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy Blaze
I think cost had a lot to do with that.

^^

[Zoos]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9416642#post9416642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by scrager
so it's a 10 foot tank, not almost 11

picky i know, but if it was like 10'10" you could say 'almost 11', but it's 10, so why not say 10' tank?

BTW it is closer to 11' than to 10', so i think its fair to say "almost 11 feet" and standard glass comes in sheets of 130" i am pretty sure that is why he opted to go for a that size, if you want it bigger it is special order and a lot more money, at least where I'm from. I would have gone the same route. 2" is hardly worth the money, just to say it is 11 feet.





Looking forward to some pictures

[moonpod]

FWIW I have a 10x3x2h. My recommendation is go at least 3 feet front to back and 4 if you can swing the space. Front back depth is really, really nice.

[nyvp]

the tank will look very squat. Its to long and short.I have a 120x36x30 and it still looks out of dimension because of the length.

[bignick]

i wonder why he didn't just go the extra 2"?

Tank is going to be heavier than all hell so be sure to eat your wheaties the day the tank arrives.

[erics3000]

BIGNICK
You have a shark /reef tank. COOL ...I have a 75 that I am converting to fo when I get my big tank up. I have a 55 that I wil be using as my sump for my new big tank. I have a couple predator fish in it right now. I was thinking of getitng a shark but I think the 75 might be too small. My big tank will be 375. I thought about putting a shark in it but I am afraid if it eating all the little fish int he tank. What kinda shark do you have in your big tank? Do you have little fish in there? I am really afraid because of what my Lion fish has already eaten.

[Jeremy Blaze]

The extra 2" adds a lot to the money.

As for why not going wider, space and cost.

It is only 2x2 but its still 11ft!!

[Gools]

looking forward to seeing you set this tank up. I'm going to do a 10'Lx 30"W tank but still debating on the height. Either 24" or 30" so I'll have to keep watching to see if you are happy with the height or if you wished you had gone higher.

[Jeremy Blaze]

Tank will be here today! Pics soon!

[SERVO]

I have a closed loop on my 8 foot long tank and I wish that I didn't have it. The laminar flow limits what you can put at the output and you will never get enough flow thru that monster relying on just a closed loop.

Don't hurt yourselves moving that thing.

:)

[Gools]

Do you have a list of what your going to be using for equipment, like lights, skimmer etc.....

[NICERICAN4YOU25]

ANOTHER MOSTER TANK COOL I KNOW HOW BIG THATS GONNA BE
MINES IS105x40x30 THERE SOME PICS IN MY GALLERY.

TY

CARLOS

[BigReef]

We should have pics by now!:lol:

[sfsuphysics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9418343#post9418343 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy Blaze
Water movement is what concerns me right now.

This is a concern of mine with any larger tank (even one that doesn't qualify for this forum :)), my current "small" tank is 6 feet long but only 18 inches front to back, which makes it really hard to put any beefy water movement without an obnoxious powerhead in the tank. Sure you can go Vortecs, but at almost 11 feet I don't know how well those will do on the ends. Tunzes sure they're nice but man they're large, and with only 24 inches front to back you'd be hard pressed to hide them. Closed loops/return manifolds are the only option but you sacrifice efficiency up the wazoo with any sort of external pump.

I'd be interested in finding out exactly which direction you take, and more importantly how well you like it.

[NICERICAN4YOU25]

JEREMY

WHAT KIND OF CIRCULATION PUMPS U GONNA USE? SKIMMER?
WHAT U GONNA USE FOR WATER MOVEMENT IN THE TANK?

HOW MUCH SAND AND WHAT KIND OF SAND? ALSO
LIVE ROCK?

I'M SURE WE ALL LIKE TO KNOW.

TY
CARLOS

[Jeremy Blaze]

Main pump is a Barracuda. It will have 4 enductors on it.

No skimmer. Display will have 600lbs of Aragonite. Sump has a 4ft refugium area.

Live rock, just got in 100lbs of fiji. His old system had about 200lbs of fiji that will go in as well.

Sorry for the delay on pics, keep forgeting. Got the overflow boxes glued in last night, sump is all plumbed.

Lighting is 3 400 watt and 2 250 watt Metal halides with XM 20K bulbs.

[erics3000]

pics please ...

[BigReef]

Main pump is a Barracuda. It will have 4 enductors on it.

I don't think the Barracuda will provide the pressure to power 4 eductors!

[Jeremy Blaze]

Well, after much delay, pics are here!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000728-1.jpg

Heres some plumbing,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000729-1.jpg

Pump, http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000730-1.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

Sump, loved the background, so I told him to leave it!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000731.jpg

ENd shot,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000732.jpg

Old livestock, new sand and new rock in holding,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000735.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

Details of the wood work, built by another friend
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000733.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000734.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

Adding sand,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000741-1.jpg

Owner adding sand,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000742.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

HEre we go!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000744-1.jpg

Water is now circulating!

[philipm]

It looked like there was no bottom in that stand and there was carpet underneath. If I were you I would put a bottom in the stand and seal it so that it holds water.

[Jeremy Blaze]

Kinda late for that!

[Julio]

sweet tank!!! what is the lighting on the tank?

[Jeremy Blaze]

Each end has a 400 watt XM 20k, then ther are 250watt xm 20k, and a 400 will be added to the center.

[DARKPHREAK]

Looks real nice!

What exactly is holding the bottom sheet of glass on the stand? From the pic's it only looks like 2x4's front to back/sides. If its a completely flat bottomed tank, your going to need to rethink the support structure to relieve those stress points. But I could be wrong.

[dkh0331]

I'll bet that lili firefish in there is sayin "cool, I've got this 11 foot tank all to myself."

[Jeremy Blaze]

Tank only sits on the edge. It has plastic trim.

I saw the 'firefish' it is actually an ollusion, there is not a fish in the tank, I think its from the camera.

[clekchau]

love the length of that tank

[poacher]

I would be very concerned about the Bottom of the tank not having additional support accross the bottom to support the heavy weight from the rock and sand. :eek1:

Great looking tank and stand set-up.

[tangers]

[QUOTE]<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9641997#post9641997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poacher
[B]I would be very concerned about the Bottom of the tank not having additional support accross the bottom to support the heavy weight from the rock and sand. :eek1:

I second that. That tank is really big to be just resting on the edge. It should be on one solid, heavily reinforced, flat, object. (wood, iron, steel, etc...) Then, as stated in glass cages warrenty and set up instructions, should have a 3/4 piece of styrofoam in between the tank and stand. The tank will settle from the weight over time and could easily stess crack. I would seriously think about reconsidering the stand. It's not too late, you have no live stock at risk. Yes it's a pain to redo the rock and water etc... but it will be well worth it! I would also think abou putting a floor in it if you do tear it down as some one mentioned before. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

[JCTewks]

I would say that if the manufacture built it with a tirm around the edges it will support it. 120 talls are built the same way...and there is no more weight on the edges of that tank than there is a 120 tall. you can go as long as you want.....just don't go taller or wider without changing the bottom. most large manufacturers make all of their small ( less than 24"wide) tanks to be supported only on the outside edges. actually, i hear that placing a large glass tank on a flat surface with the glass in direct contact can weaken the tank by causing small differences in pressure.

[Tony44]

Looks nice

[deuce6371]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9635063#post9635063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy Blaze
Well, after much delay, pics are here!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000728-1.jpg

Heres some plumbing,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000729-1.jpg

Pump, http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000730-1.jpg

Is this a used tank, that has been resealed?

[Jeremy Blaze]

No.

[Bax]

Great tank! Wish I had 11' of space to fill!

[tangers]

any updates on this tank, am interested as this is the tank I want to get from glass cages

[Jeremy Blaze]

I'll have new pics tommorrow!

It is up and running, other than some micro bubbles it is going great.

[Danyal]

dude, this tank looks amazing. i think these guys raise some good concerns though, thats a lot of tank and it would really suck for it to break.

[tangers]

where are the pics????!!!!

[crackedbottom]

When that tank was delivered to you did it have a green information card taped to the inside of it?

If so, did you READ the card? Have you ever set up a tank before that utilized construction techniques that are similar to this one?

Have you ever LOOKED at a tank that sits on its perimeter plastic bracing? Did the bottom sheet of glass stop short of the walls of the tank or did the walls sit on the bottom sheet?

Is that stand sitting on carpet? It looks like the stand might be sitting directly on the carpet but I cannot tell. If it is sitting directly on the carpet then you might want to rethink this.

If the tank DID NOT come with a green information card upon delivery then I suggest that you call the manufacturer immediately and ask for the appropriate installation instructions. Perhaps they will meet you in the middle for the cost of draining and reworking the tank.

As it currently sits that tank WILL have the bottom sheet of glass break. Please note that breakage of any kind is NOT covered under warranty from the manufacturer. If a seam leaks then you will have a case for 90 days. WHEN the bottom sheet breaks you will have NO recourse due to the poor installation.

FIX IT or you are in for a HUGE mess at some point down the road.

Please READ the installation instructions from the manufacturer and then LOOK at the stand and tank as they currently sit. I am not trying to cause problems, I am trying to help.

[20 20]

I keep reading all the well-intentioned suggestions about the support of the tank, and what keeps going through my head is that none of the stands by AGA, Oceanic, etc, have a solid top. The tanks just rest on the edges. So why would this tank be any different? Certainly not trying to get into an arguement, just looking for information.

[Jamesurq]

I'm with you 20 20. I've seen tons of glass cages tanks and every one of them sat on a stand that supported the edges only. The walls of the tank are set ON the bottom of the tank, and there are internal double braces siliconed to add extra strength.

That said, there ARE 4 2X4 cross braces that I can see. As far as I can tell, the stand should be plenty strong.

[Jeremy Blaze]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9784879#post9784879 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 20 20
I keep reading all the well-intentioned suggestions about the support of the tank, and what keeps going through my head is that none of the stands by AGA, Oceanic, etc, have a solid top. The tanks just rest on the edges. So why would this tank be any different? Certainly not trying to get into an arguement, just looking for information.

Exactly. Even if the stand had a solid sheet across, the tank would only touch it around the edges. The bottom of the tank has a trim peice just like all other tanks, which raises the glass about 1/4" off the bottom.

No tanks rest on the bottom glass. Not all glass not perfecto not oceanic. If it has a trim or frame on it, it rests on the frame.

Thanks for the input.

Crackedbottom, I am intrigued by you. You joined RC just to comment on this, and even got the creative name of crakedbottom. Who are you really?

AS for the carpet. Again, many tanks are on carpet. I am sure the wwight of this system will flatten it out very well.


All being said, I had nothing to do with the building of the stand. I would have built it differently, but it was built by a Home Contractor, and is plenty strong.

After all, have you looked at Allglass, oceanic, Perfecto, RJ, etc... stands?

A lot of them are pressboard, or 1"by pine. Some of them the tank only rests on the top trim molding which is only held to the stand by staples. In fact, all of their stands are built with staples.

[crackedbottom]

The tank has a solid sheet of glass across the bottom and this is what the tank rests on. There is a thin piece of polycarbonate molding across the bottom of the tank to hide the silicone joints. This piece of molding has a 90 notched into it by the manufacturer and then is heated to a temperature where it becomes pliable. Once pliable, it is wrapped around the corners of the tank.

You obviously were not present for the installation of the tank or you would not make statements claiming that the bottom of the tank rests 1/4" off the stand. Other manufactuers commonly use a one piece, injection molded frame with pilot grooves for the side sheets of glass. That is a completely different design principal and is not relevant to this discussion.

This tank is not installed per the instructions provided by the tank manufacturer. As such, all warrantees that would normally be in effect are null and void. The tank requires a solid sheet of plywood with a sheet of styrofoam across the entire surface. This is because the tank sits on the bottom sheet of glass, and it needs a forgivng surface to rest on.

As currently installed, this tank will have the bottom sheet of glass crack at some point in the future. I suggest that you fix it as soon as possible.

Should you doubt any of the facts stated above, please contact the manufacturer of the tank. Please explain the installation to them and provide them with the pictures that are found within this thread. They will advise you how to proceed from this point forward.

I am trying to help you. The installation as seen in the pictures is horrendous and is destined to fail. PLEASE call the manufacturer. Please READ the installation instructions on their website.

[jaugermeister]

Crackedbottom.... I'm mainly a lurker on these forums and yet I had to comment on your method of being "helpful"... you do realize you’re being condescending and arrogant don’t you? If your true intentions are to be helpful then you might want to state your opinion and let Jeremy Blaze take the risk. After all it is his tank and his money. I do however find it odd that you’re a new member and starting such commotion in these forums. Why do you have such an interest in this particular system setup? If you’re here just to act malicious and to annoy others I suggest you get a move on…

[Jeremy Blaze]

Thanks again for the input. As stated at the begining , the tank is not mine, and I can not make all decisions on the tank and its set up.

Crackedbottom, you certainlly have a lot of knowledge of this tanks construction!

[JCTewks]

Actually, all-glass, perfecto will not warranty their tanks if they are not on one of their stands...sound like bs to me. most of their stand look like pieces of crap built by monkeys with air tools. Jeremy...don't sweat it. that standlooks like it will easily support that tank, and the tank looks to be designed to sit on it's rim.

Cracked bottom: i have heard that you should only place acrylic tanks on foam. glass will crack if supported that way...at least the thin stuff all glass and perfecto use.

Jeremy: who is this tanks manufacturer?

[Jeremy Blaze]

The tank was built by Glass cages.

They did a great job, we were real happy with the tank, with one exception.

When the tank was ordered, Tom said he would put 3 center braces in it, as we were planning on using 4 metal halides. However, when the tank arrive, it had 4 braces. There was a drawing of the tank still in it that had the 3 braces, and someone had clearly drawn in a 4th brace, after the fact.

Other than that, it was built on time and shipped when promised. It has a few sloppy spots of silicone, but then again so did my All Glass 180 RR tank.

[RevHtree]

Hmmmm just speculation but it sounds like cracked bottom might be the manufacturer!!

I think this is a hint from them that it's not going to be covered if it breaks.

Could crackedbottom be glass cages??????

[JCTewks]

if it is they don't seem very nice.

[REEF-DADDY]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9665010#post9665010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deuce6371
Is this a used tank, that has been resealed?

Looks like the owner may have silicone the overflow covers on the tank, I was thinking the same thing

[tattooreef]

thanks to everyone for the input positive and negative on my tank. i am glad to see all the interest everyone has taken in it. and id especially like to thank jeremy for all the countless hours of labor and for maintaining this thread. the first thing that i would like to comment on is crackedbottoms concern for the stand, i assure u that the stand is plenty strong for this system. a personal friend(that is a licensed contractor) and myself constructed it. he and i have built almost every one of my stands and never had a problem. i will have jeremy post pics of the construction of it so you can see that evry brace and edge has been doubled or tripled and reinforced. and besides if he can construct a frame that is strong enough to support the weight of a house im sure the same type of framing (especially with alot of reinforcement) will support this tank.

[erics3000]

Everyone isn't questing the framing on the stand. They are speaking of the design of the tank. Totally different subject for an engineering stand point. AS long as you confirmed your setup from the manufacture then your cool. It is good to see someone who can except the negative criticism. We are all always learning. I think everyone is just concerned for you. I hope your dream tank comes out to your fullest expectations.

Eric

[erics3000]

sorry for the spelling..try to do too many things at once...

[tattooreef]

i understand your point erics3000 and as far as that goes there are four cross braces that are perfectly level with the top of the stand, and i am under that thing almost everyday for one reason or another. and i can assure u and everyone else(crackedbottom) that the bottom sheet of glass does not touch any of the four braces. and as soon as i get the opportunity i will take the pictures to back that statement up.and as far as negative criticisim goes it doesnt bother me one bit. i am just curious why crackedbottom has such an interest in this particular setup, and why he or she is being so critical and outright rude on this one setup out of the hundreds that are posted here

[REEF-DADDY]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9810402#post9810402 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tattooreef
thanks to everyone for the input positive and negative on my tank. i am glad to see all the interest everyone has taken in it. and id especially like to thank jeremy for all the countless hours of labor and for maintaining this thread. the first thing that i would like to comment on is crackedbottoms concern for the stand, i assure u that the stand is plenty strong for this system. a personal friend(that is a licensed contractor) and myself constructed it. he and i have built almost every one of my stands and never had a problem. i will have jeremy post pics of the construction of it so you can see that evry brace and edge has been doubled or tripled and reinforced. and besides if he can construct a frame that is strong enough to support the weight of a house im sure the same type of framing (especially with alot of reinforcement) will support this tank.

Welcome to RC bro!

Sweet tank!

[Jeremy Blaze]

THe thing is, some of these people are saying that the glass needs to touch the stand, where 99% of all tanks and stands that is not the case.

[demeyer2]

I believe everyone is referring to people with large rimmed tanks who put styrofoam or some other type of cushioning/leveling material under so it has more support.

[erics3000]

yeah.. But some people do come out rude. maybe not on purpose. Anyway enjoy your project and keep the pics coming. I guess I am what they call here a picture junkie...

[krajacich]

tattooreef: <img src="/images/welcome.gif" width="500" height="62"><br><b><i><big><big>To Reef Central</b></i></big></big>

Great looking tank. Can't wait to see more pictures. Any thoughts on what your stocking list looks like?

[RightWinger210]

Great Tank, Good luck with it. I just hope that the floor beneath it is braced, I dont think gallons was mentioned, but it is very easy to calculate using the dimensions. That is one heavy tank for normal house construction. As for the stand, people should take an empty tank and look at the bottom, the tank sits on plastic with the glass not touching anything, so why would the stand need to have a flat surface on it, the stand is clearly built fine and it will do the job, and PLEASE keep the pics coming. I cant wait for the fish! You got a dream tank there...

[RightWinger210]

323 Gallon Tank with 76 Gallon sump = 398, so basically 400 Gallons, is that correct?

[akbuuur]

this is gonna be sweet

[Jeremy Blaze]

Yep about 400 gallons. It is on a concrete slab as well.

[tattooreef]

Pretty close on the gallons the display is approx. 340 and the sump is approx. 100. there are approx. 480lbs of live rock. lots of softies all of the other corals that are posted on here. as far as livestock so far there are a huge pair of maroon goldstripes a pair of large (but very tame) blue fiji damsels 2 large yellowtangs (that get along perfectly) 1 verigated rabbitfish 1 arabian basslet 1 strawberry basslet 1 banana wrasse. and future live stock will include a small school of anthias 6 to 8 lubbocks wrasses a few flasher wrasses a blonde naso tang hopefully an achilles tang. a hippo tang id like to include a clown tang but doubt it because of their track record. a powder blue tang a group of purple firefish a few gobies and whatever else comes along.

[tattooreef]

new pics of tank as of now and tank construction will be posted within the next couple of days i promise

[Mr31415]

If I may ask, what thickness are your side walls and bottom panel?

[tattooreef]

i do beleive that the side walls are1/2 and the bottom is 3/4

[steve414]

I think this a dream

[Shekki]

As a contractor, I overbuilt my stands to the point of ridiculousness. When I walk into a LFS and see the stands made by Oceanic or All Glass I gasp. I can't believe how poorly they are made, with such little support. At the end of the day, they work fine and comply with warranty standards. Maybe I'm the weirdo.

[charlesjordanjr]

It is going to look good!
-Chuck

[tangers]

still waiting for the pics man!!!!

[bjlorey]

I went over to look at his tank last night. It is absolutely amazing! Good job man and thinks for getting me into the hobby! People are going to go nuts when they see the pics.

[tattooreef]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IMG_0206.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IMG_0207.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IMG_0208.jpg

[tattooreef]

the pic of just the frame mas before the end braces went in, we had to wait to put those in till i measured the sump

[tattooreef]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IMG_0209.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IMG_0213.jpg

[tattooreef]

now here are some of the tank and some of the inhabitants. Mind you that i am not a photographer, and the cloudiness of the tank is due to microbubble (any suggestions would be appreciated)http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000810.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000820.jpg

[tattooreef]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000903.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000885.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000882.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000880.jpg

[mcliffy2]

Sweet looking tank!

Can you edit your posts and just hit return in between the pics you inserted? Makes it easier so you dont have to scroll sideways.

[tattooreef]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000799.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000798.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000797.jpg

[tattooreef]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000793.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000789.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000791.jpg

[tattooreef]

this is one of the two almost 9 inch fungiashttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000790.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000786.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000785.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/IM000788.jpg

[tattooreef]

also all of these pics were taken well over a month ago and a lot of work and rearranging has been done since and hopefully i will be making a rather large fish and invert order soon. Once again any suggestions on eleminating the microbubble would be more than appreciated

[erics3000]

Do you have an better pictures of your sump and plumbing?

[tattooreef]

sorry erics3000 the best pics of the plumbing are posted a few pages back. as far as the sump i could try to take some of the sump. anything in particular you want to see

[erics3000]

Humm..I am going top take a look back a few pages. Marc has a lot of info on his site. Incase you havent already looke dat here you go.

http://www.melevsreef.com/

There are a few posts here that talk about bubles.

Maybe some other guys will chime in.

[tattooreef]

thanks for the info on that site erics3000 i definately found some interesting info there although unless i tear down the whole sump im not sure how much of it i can use

[mhhauser321]

wow nice tank

[EWC88]

OMG!!! that tank is amazing!!! When I get older and get a house I want one that same size!!

[tattooreef]

thanks for the feedback guys. im really glad to see that people like it, i know i do! im really hoping to get some feedback from some of the more experienced reefers on her about the elemination of micro bubble

[tattooreef]

wow out of all the experience on here i cant believe no one has any suggestions for the elemination of microbubble. That said for all the people on here that were worried about structual integrity of the system it has been running for a few months and no problems or "cracks" in the tank . also i lucked into a very large nice house that i possibly will be purchasing and will probably have to move this beast{wich i am not looking forward to} lol. so i will be making some changes as i do this. so any suggestions that are politely put would be much appreciated. some of the changes thus far will include a larger sump that will be relocated to the new garage and some additional support into the stand {i dont feel it needs it but may as well do it} and i am thinking of using some soft lines instead of all hard plumbing , more of a mix of the 2. so i will keep posted on this issue because i am not certain if it is going to happen. so until then comments on the microbubble and suggestions for upgrades if i move it are welcome thanks guys{and gals}

[erics3000]

I have seen alot of rock in sumps were the returns enter. It helps make a sort of bubble trap. Have you double checked all your plumbing so there are no leaks. If you have any threaded pipes it can't hurt to take them all apart and wrap them again with teflon tape.

I also use this type of filter material in my sump.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/NavResults.cfm?N=2004+113808
The water enterS my sump through a box with this material. I have to clean it out every week or every other.

Hope that helps. You sure have a lot of big corals. I have been starting to buy little frags but they are way little. I think I will just buy a big one every month and save my money. I guess I need to order stuff online. Is that where you got yours at?

[tattooreef]

thanks for the feedback erics3000. As far as where we got my corals from we did not order them online jeremyblaze actualy ordered them from one of the suppliers he uses for the huge tanks at the interperitve center that he works for. and alot of the corals i previously had in my last tank{most of the softies}

[Jamesurq]

FWIW - Glass Cages DOES very strongly recommend a flat surface stand.

Oh well :)

[tattooreef]

thanks jamesurq for your input i have had numerous people say that and i have read the card that arrived with the tank i have thought about it and am still considering it but im not sure how the setup would be any more sturdy with it considering that there will be 2 very large cutouts along the backside of it for the 6 large drain holes that are in the bottom of the tank. i have a client that is an engineer and we are planning to sit down and figure out if it would be any stronger or safer for the tank( and my living room, lol) to do it that way. thanks for your input any more you may have would be appreciated

[Jamesurq]

Oh - I agree it's plenty strong.

Other input?

Yeah.... buy a better camera :)

[Snook65]

Great job on the new tank. How many people did it take to carry it into the house. What type of skimmer and calcium reactor are you running?

[tattooreef]

in reply to snook65 in reply to your questions 1st it took 8 of us (2of wich are big enough to count for 2 each lol) as far as skimmer and calcium reactor there is none this tank is running simply off of a refugium alone i add calcium the old fashioned way when it needs it and currently there has only been 1 water change. i am running about 4lbs of carbon and two bags of phosban on a drip tray in the sump. my philosophy is "simple simple simple" i adopted this method after acidentaly stumbling on it with my reef that is in the wall of my tattoo studio. i was running a 3ft downdraft skimmer and didnt notice when it malfunctioned (for almost a month} but out of nowhere i had better water clarity and coral response then ever and the tank had been running for 4 years, it has now been running like this for over a year and never looked better.

[ScubaDiver93]

that amazing. i love that tank.

[erics3000]

We need some new full tank shoots please..

[tattooreef]

new shots will be posted soon. plus i just heard the good news today that i am definately getting my new house, so now the hard part tearing down this beast and moving it. dear god this is gona suck. but like i said at least i will get to make some changes to the system, which is a good thing because as all of us know with a system this large there always those little gremlins that we find after the system is up and running that unless you tear the tank down cannot be corrected. and i promise to keep everyone posted as to what changes are being made and post pics the whole way.

[skeeter-doc]

good luck with the move, and it is a good time to fix the little things, but wow, that is one serious project to move something that big!

[tattooreef]

yeah skeeter it is going to be a serious project i am in planning mode right now and trust me even on paper it hurts my back! lol! i actually picked up some 55gal. drums that i am going to line the insides and use for water and sand transport which will make that aspect easier but the lr and livestock are going to have to be moved the old fashioned way. and as far as the tank itself im seriously contemplating hiring movers , either that or im gona have to call in alot of favors.

[Jeremy Blaze]

Please hire a moving crew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jeremy Blaze]

I here you are trading the tank in,

for one of these
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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/ist2_410212_fire_truck.jpg

Oh, and heres a pic of tattooreef's favorite snack.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/untitled.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[tattooreef]

and all of the sudden jeremy blaze decides to become a comedian

[tattooreef]

here are some pics of the new sump i am almost finished with


http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/3.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/4.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/5.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/6.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/christetrick77/7.jpg

[BigReef]

Looks cool! what is it coated in?

[tattooreef]

it is coated in a good 1 part epoxy but i honestly would like to go over that with something else so if there are any suggestions i would appreciate them very much. because i water tested it last night and there are a couple of small leaks i have to fix anyway so i might as well do anything else to double safe it while im at it .

[Jeremy Blaze]

Too bad you can't get a hook up of fiberglass/gel coating. I still think that is the best for anything wood.

There have been threads of people building large wood tanks, might want to look around and see what others have used.

Did you go with the gen x or the blueline pump?

[erics3000]

I would definetly use resin and some fiberglass. But the sump is cool...

[tattooreef]

well i decided to go ahead and fiberglass the whole thing , well at least resin coat the whole thing and then reinforce the edges and corners with the glass cloth

[tattooreef]

just to update you guys on the sump issue i did resin coat the whole thing and used the cloth to reinforce the whole corners and edges, and it still leaked , so i went ahead and took it and had the whole inside coated with line-x. wich is pretty close to rhino lining, now i just have to test it for leaks again(crossing my fingers) and then test for any leaching of chemicals , even though the manufacturer guarenteed that it was inert and completely environmentally safe.

[erics3000]

If you coated the inside completely with resin, and then painted with epoxy I would think you would not have any leaks. What type of expoxy did you use and where did you get it. I am trying to decide to drill a 75 for a sump or just make a wood one.

[tattooreef]

honestly erics3000 for a sump that size if u have a 75 or know someone with one i would just drill it because it has been a ton of work and headache with my wood one(although very worth it for the size i wanted and the floor demensions i wanted to keep it in) . And honestly 75's are a dime a dozen for used ones you could just get a used one and reseal it very easily and pretty cheap and lets face it its a sump it doesnt have to be pretty

[asmodeus]

Tank looks really great man, Love the sump too. But I think we need crackbottom to give his opinion on this before you go any further..:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


well done man

[tattooreef]

thanks asmodeus. and yeah i keep waiting for his input so i can move this i dont know what i will do without it. lol. honestly i did appreciate his input but i really think that he should have went about it a better way, and some people need to learn that there really is more than one right way to do things. and to keep in mind that there is no one true expert on these things as every different aquarium is just a big living experiment

[Leilani57]

very cool, congratulations!

i'm a little jealous :)

[tattooreef]

thanks leilani it has been a project that was planned for a long time and because of that it came together nicely, i just wish i would have had this move planned because the fun part begins next week , tearing this thing down and relocating it.

[tattooreef]

oh and to all the picture junkies i will post more full tank shots before i tear it down i promise

[erics3000]

thanks for the info..

[tattooreef]

no problem erics3000 , so what did u decide to do?

[erics3000]

300 display ordered with 2 low iorn viewing panels , 75 sump, 55 fuge...

I will need to take my predator fish from my 55 and drop them in the current 150.

Thanks again

[AquaJern]

Cant wait to see pics!
Im sure your fish will love to sprint across that length...

[erics3000]

that has got to be cool to see them swim from one side to the other. I am sure they can pick up some speed

[tattooreef]

sounds nice erics3000 trust me you will love it, what demensions is your 300 you ordered? believe me you ought to see my tangs especially my clown tang take off across that 11ft span

[erics3000]

96x30x25 I wanted to go 36 wide but was running out of room. So the 30 will have to do. I am making a office and using it as a room divider. I think I will listen to your advice. I have so many things going on like all of us and limited time. I will save the DIY for the some reactors and finishing my room.I will let you know when I start a thread. Out of town right now.

Yeah I couldn't imagine the tanks shooting 11 feet. They must reallly pick up some speed.

Thanks for the info.

[tattooreef]

yeah erics3000 they really get going someyimes especially if its close to any of their feeding times they can really get nuts. the demensions of your tank sound really nice you will definately have a good time with that.

[erics3000]

thanks..

[utdrmac]

with all those pumps in the cabinet, how are you handling the sound?

[Jeremy Blaze]

He only has one pump in the cabinet, it is a very quiet sequnce pump.

[tattooreef]

thanks jeremy, and yeah utdrmac this is actually one of the quietest systems ive ever ran

[tattooreef]

well today is d-day i have to start tearing down my tank 2 night, so everybody point and laugh!

[Jeremy Blaze]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[erics3000]

good luck..

[tattooreef]

thanks erics3000 i now have the tank half way torn down and will be doing the rest of the livestock tonight and the sand tomorrow , then the tank gets moved sunday morning, god i am not looking forward to this, because i decided not to hire movers, because honestly i just hated to pay someone 750 for an hour or two of labor. but i honestly cant wait to set it back up again and make all the changes that i want to do.

[JCTewks]

I'm interested to see/hear the changes you are making. thats always the nice thing about having to move a tank. It's kind of like starting all over again :)

[tattooreef]

yeah definately JCTewks like i said earlier in the thread i am bumping the sump volume up to 300g and taking my barracuda pump off of the sump and using it for a closed loop, adding a blueline 30 hd-x pump for the return from the sump, wich will hopefully eleminate my microbubble issue, and also increase the time the water gets to react with the cheato in the refugium, im sure there will be more changes along the way also and i will keep posting on them the whole way

[Onesaltydawg]

That is going to be sweet and alot of water

[tattooreef]

yeah definately alot of water !!!

[NYCREEF69]

nice bird nest

[tattooreef]

thanks nycreef69 i loved that birdsnest, but unfortunately we had the corals in holding bins and something happened, im pretty sure my heater malfunctioned and overheated the water and now that birdsnest , and a few of my other big show pieces are almost completely dead, believe me im sick over it.

[tattooreef]

also the tank is now moved and is in what should be its permanent home and the plumbing was planned and drawn, and we will start plumbing tonight

[erics3000]

that sucks..take plenty pics of your plumbing..Are you are still going skimmerless..

[MrSaltLife]

I agree that def sucks

[tattooreef]

yes it does suck. but on a lighter note we got the new,way smaller overflows siliconed into place last night and got the closed loop and manifold completely mocked up and ready for glue. the manifold travels the complete top perimeter of the tank with 7 outlets along it that will be split with lockline so basicaly the barracuda will be pushing the closed loopthrough 14 lockline outlets. and the blueline 30 hd x will be the return from the sump returning through the bottom of the tank. so it should have absolutely awesome flow throughout the entire tank

[tattooreef]

well the closed loop and manifold are complete and ready to go so tonight we get to cut holes in the walls and get the plumbing ran into the garage for the sump so hopefully tomorrow night we will be ready for the first water test run and if all goes well start filling this thing back up again. (so we are definately crossing our fingers)

[erics3000]

pics?

[tattooreef]

there will be pics soon i have taken some as we were doing all this just havnt had a chance to upload any yet. as of last night we drilled holes inthe wall for the plumbing and got the pipes ran into the garage, and as soon as the sump is re-fiberglassed we will be ready for that to go into operation. but as of now there is sand in the tank and water will go in tonight and the closed loop will be turned on.

[Oldude]

Tattooreef you mentioned something about microbubbles. I have all my returns (from 3 tanks using one sump) submurged about 6" under the sumps water level into 100 micron polypropylene felt filter socks. The submerged pipes cut down the waterfall noise and bubbles and the filter socks eliminate any remaining air bubbles and trap any "floaties" that are in the system and give you a nice crystal clear looking tank. Here is a link where I got mine.
http://www.filterbag.com/browse.php?...it=F ind+Bags
Oh and by the way, sweet tank man.

[tattooreef]

thanks oldude we are making a ton of changes to the system as we are redoing it so hopefully i wont need to go
that route but if i do i will definately check out that link i really appreciate it . and thanks for the compliment on the tank itself

[Jeremy Blaze]

How about some new pics!!:D

[tattooreef]

d@*#n it jeremy you know ive been busy, lol. no need to get these guys going about the pics! actually i will be posting new ones today or tomorow

[JackJack7]

sweet

[tattooreef]

sorry about the delats on the pics guys ive been so bust with work and trying to figure out my sump situation i just havnt had the tome to post any. oh yeah the sump. i had to scrap the one i built i dont know what went wrong ang why it wouldnt seal, but it seemed that everytime i tried something it just leaked worse, oh well live and learn i guess.

[tattooreef]

sorry about the spelling, it is very late

[erics3000]

That sucks with the sump....

[tattooreef]

yeah erics3000 it does suck very badly. on an upnote i do now have a very expensive sturdy work bench.lol. i will be making a decision today on wether im just gona buy a big tank and modify it build another or do multiple rubbermade tubs. and as promised i will be loading some pics on here today

[JCTewks]

Well...It's now no longer today, where are the pics :) LOL

[Jeremy Blaze]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10471621#post10471621 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JCTewks
Well...It's now no longer today, where are the pics :) LOL

Yeah! LOL:D

[tattooreef]

i know guys im sorry about leading everyone on about pics but please understand i have been crazy busy at work and with the tank they will be on here soon

[tattooreef]

sorry for the delay everyone i know i promised to post pics soon and i havnt pardon my laziness, i am full of it lol. i do have good news since the last post i have gotten the sump up and running( multiple rubbermaids) and have built the entire room around the sump. we have added lots of fish and a ton of acros! i do have a lot of pics taken that i need to download and post. it just has been hectic at the shop and with the move, trying to get everything in and arranged and doing the whole system over . but once again i will post some new pics within the next couple days.

[Jeremy Blaze]

PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tattooreef]

shut up jeremy!!! you see the tank every day! actually i got a great idea you should take some and post them tomorrow.

[JCTewks]

Yeah, Jeremy...post some pics :lol:

[Jeremy Blaze]

If I can make it over tonight, I'll take some.

[tattooreef]

sorr4y for the delay everyone there will b pics posted by tomorrow one way or another lol. just an update the tank is running practically perfect looks wonderful and is quiet as a mouse, i couldnt be happier. and i have to thank jeremy blaze once again for the countless hours of slave labor he has helped put into it. lol! we will be building a kalkwasser drip tonight and hopefully installing it within the next couple days and my electrician will be coming hopefully next week to install all seperate and dedicated lines for the lights, battery backups( pumps) and for the soon to be bought aqua controller.

[RayAllen]

NICE tank and cool build. Ive read through the pages and see a lot of negative feed back on the stand. It looks great and strongly doubt you will ever have problems. I also like the measurements on the tank to. Happy Reefing

[tattooreef]

thanks for the positive feedback RayAllen and i completely agree its been running for quite a while and been tore down and moved and still no problems. like i said earlier in the thread people need to learn that there is always more than one right way to do things

[Jeremy Blaze]

Homer: From now on, there are three ways to do things: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way.
Bart: Isn't that just the wrong way?
Homer: Yeah, but faster!

[Jeremy Blaze]

Here you go!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000173.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000174-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000178.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

And more,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000180.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000182-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000183.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

And more,

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000184.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000191.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000192.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

And more,

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000193.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000194.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000198.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

And some more,

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000207.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000208.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000209.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

More,

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000220.jpg

Sump room
,http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000226.jpg

sumps,
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000227.jpg

[Jeremy Blaze]

And last but not least,

FULL TANK SHOT!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000203.jpg

[ReefingBuddha]

wow... all that open water looks great... congratulations on a beautiful aquarium

[tattooreef]

thanks to jeremy for some great shots of my or actually i should say our tank really , cause he definately has enough time invested to where i think he definately has a stake in it lol, and thanks thirschmann im definately proud yo have this thing sitting next to me everyday, except the new plasma on the next wall never gets watched lol. and yes i love the open water thats one of the main reasons i went so large, that way i could go for more of a natural looking reef with tons of fish everywhere, and as you can see the 20 or so fish that are in there currently looks empty, i am shooting for 50 plus fish over the next 6 months or so.

[Bax]

Very nice!

[11FootReefer]

Just thought I\'d throw my 2 cents in...

I just purchased this SAME tank in July (it\'s still sitting dry waiting for the stand to be completed).

First I have to say that I have never COMPLETELY read a 9 page thread...but since I have this same tank, I found it very interesting.

Second I have to say that CrackedBottom was absolutely right. Maybe he just came across the wrong way because it was over the internet. However, when I met up with the GlassCages 18 wheeler to pick up my tank with the 14 foot U-Haul, the delivery people made it a point to make sure I knew to put the tank on a flat solid surface with 1 inch foam between the stand and tank. They said that if not done this way, OVER TIME, the tank WILL crack. If you don\'t believe it, go to vendor feedback and do a search on GlassCages. I bet everyone in there bashing GlassCages didn\'t follow the companys instructions! An 11 foot piece of glass just \'floating\' in mid air with 3500lbs of wieght on it doesn\'t make ME sleep good at night!! Now take that same 11 foot piece of glass and put it on a solid topped stand with 1 inch foam on it, and the entire bottom sheet of glass is supported. That is the thing everyone was trying to get across - maybe not so successfully. I\'m sure no malice was intended.

And so everyone knows, this is the longest \"standard\" tank that GlassCages makes. If you take the 130 inch tank and go 130x36x36 with it, it takes the price up by thousands - instead of the $1400 price tag. (when you add in all the holes drilled, overflow boxes etc etc, it comes to $2000) I ran into the same issue...I wanted 130x36x36 but not for THEIR price. I HAD to go with the 130x24x25.

That was a GORGEOUS birdsnest by the way, sorry to hear of it\'s fate. Keep us updated and pleeeeeeeeease fix the stand...or you might be posting in the vendor feedback section sooner than you had hoped.

H2H
Pete

[erics3000]

Finally some pics..Looks good. I love that open room. damm it makes my 8feet long look small...NICE>>>

Glass cages told me the same thing. In my build I put my tank on top of the foam . I had to cut holes for the drains but htat was it.

130x36x36 sounds nice. Next time around I want to get something along that size. The length really makes it sweet. I really wanted a 36 wide but I was limited to ro so I stteled for a 30w.

[tattooreef]

thanks for the feedback everyone, and to 11footreefer the tank is not "floating" it has full outer perimeter bracing and three cross braces that were very thought out and strategically placed. thanks for the the input but as i have said on here several times there is always more than one right way of doing things, trust me i wouldnt have all of my time money and love for this tank just "floating" or on anything that i felt was unfit for the delicate load that is sitting atop of it. as i said earlier i brought in a licenced contractor for the construction. and as far as that goes the tank has been running for over 6 months and been torn down and moved and while it was empty i looked over this tank and stand with a fine tooth comb for any strucural defaults. but i truly thank you for your concern and look forward to seeing another 1 of these giants on here. and further more i have not or will not " bash" classcages i love their work and am nothing but ecstatic with my tank and if i ever do have a problem or if i ever want to go bigger(possibility) there is no other company i will call.

[tattooreef]

thanks erics i really wanted a wider tank but for the price diference going that wide is incredible and then the cost to fill the space with lr and corals, plus just the space it takes up considering mine is not an inwall setup. and trust me i do love the length of this giant especially for the "cruisers" in the tank.

[conorwynne]

Its mad big, and only $2000, you lads are well lucky, my new 550L will be that much -- and it may end up being smaller if I listen to my wife (which WILL happen of course - the example being I'm not allowed to put holes in the ceiling & roof to install solatubes, my sales pitch failed it seems - have to cancel the order now....)

Enough procrastinating, I love your tank, its very beautifully laid out -- a huge amount of space for the SPS to grow out, yet leaving tons of room for the swimmers. You could do with a better camera coz I need some new desktop backgrounds.. oh and more pics in general plz.

Regards
Conor.

[tattooreef]

thanks conorwynne it is nice and large i absolutely love it! and it is very nice to have someone from abroad complimenting my baby.

[jopo43]

thats huge

[tattooreef]

thanks jopo43 i love the size and one day will probly go even bigger!

[tattooreef]

i added a small skimmer( aquasea remora) to the system last night that will be a temporary thing just because i have had a couple of acros bite the dust recently. the nice thing is even though a couple have died there are still so many that the tank is still full looking. i personaly think that they were put in too early because my water tests out perfectly and the rest are doing great. but then again that is entirely my fault. i just want to find a way to make them flourece more. any suggestions would be appreciated

[JCTewks]

add some T5 or VHO actinic supplemental lighting.

[StingRay1969]

Nice setup!

[DaMonkey]

Nice setup - wish I had the room for that tank! Keep the pics coming!

[tattooreef]

thanks stingray and damonkey ,and jctewks im not sure if i want to add more lighting in consideration that i am already running 3- 400w and 2- 250w metal halides all 5 are 20k xm bulbs so i dont really know if actinics would even change the coloration much, i may look into it or pull sum vho off of one of my other tanks just to try it because i have thought the same thing , but i am afraid i would have to burn a ton of them to get any real results

[erics3000]

Are you going to stay skimmer less? Or just use a small skimmer?

[tattooreef]

hey erics3000 i am not sure if i will remove it or if i will just keep that one running i love the idea of a skimmerless tank as the one at my work is and has never looked better. my initial thoughts are to run the skimmer for a while until everything balances out and the cheato takes off and the other algaes take root and start growing in. just because the tank has had a slight murk to it and within 1 day of turning the skimmer on i could notice a slight difference. and im sure that as soon as the algaes take hold it will keep it as clear if not clearer than the skimmer

[thor32766]

sweet full tank shot!!! looks awesome!

[JCTewks]

Do you or are you planning on runnin carbon or ozone to help with yellow water?

[tattooreef]

jctewks i am running about 3 lbs of carbon and there is no yellow tint in the water that has never been a problem just a slight murk to the water wich is all but gone with the use of the skimmer. thor32766 thanks for the compliment it always makes me glad to know people dig my tank.

[tattooreef]

i think i may be adding a large blonde naso into the system within the next couple of days but concerned because i have heard that nasos and clown tangs may fight a bit and i dont want to inhibit myself from being able to keep clown tangs again in the future

[tattooreef]

well the lfs screwed me out of my blonde naso so i guess no worry there lol. but i would like to mention that i will be adding a large calcium reactor to the system within the next week or so, because i cannot keep up with the calcium levels in the system and have lost a couple more acros lately. and i honestly figure for the cost of losing acros i can buy the reactor get everything running correct and then replace them. also i will be playing around with lighting some to see if i can get my corals to flourece a little more, and will be adding an aquacontroller. so in other words i got a busy week ahead of me.

[SaltwaterChris]

WOW! an 11 foot tank awesome makes my 215 look like a nano.Love to see a huge tank with lots of tangs did you ever get an achilles? that my fav.Also how big of clean up crew do you have?1 million or so crabs,snails,and starfish:lol:

[SaltwaterChris]

WOW! an 11 foot tank awesome makes my 215 look like a nano.Love to see a huge tank with lots of tangs did you ever get an achilles? that my fav. Also how big of clean up crew do you have?1 million or so crabs,snails,and starfish:lol:

[tattooreef]

saltwaterchris no i did not get an achilles yet however i do plan on it. and as far as the cleaner crew i honestly am not sure how many of what i have anymore, although i do know that it is not nearly enough. as far as tangs right now i have two yellows, a blue(hippo), a tomini(flamefin), and a sailfin. other fish include 3 perculas, 2 fiji blue damsels, 1 arabian dottydack, a china wrasse, a banana wrasse, 3 lubbocks wrasse, a verigated rabbitfish, an algae blenny. although i do have to fish 2 clowns and 2 lubbocks wrasses out of the sump

[gwaco]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10753133#post10753133 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 11FootReefer
Just thought I\'d throw my 2 cents in...

I just purchased this SAME tank in July (it\'s still sitting dry waiting for the stand to be completed).

First I have to say that I have never COMPLETELY read a 9 page thread...but since I have this same tank, I found it very interesting.

Second I have to say that CrackedBottom was absolutely right. Maybe he just came across the wrong way because it was over the internet. However, when I met up with the GlassCages 18 wheeler to pick up my tank with the 14 foot U-Haul, the delivery people made it a point to make sure I knew to put the tank on a flat solid surface with 1 inch foam between the stand and tank. They said that if not done this way, OVER TIME, the tank WILL crack. If you don\'t believe it, go to vendor feedback and do a search on GlassCages. I bet everyone in there bashing GlassCages didn\'t follow the companys instructions! An 11 foot piece of glass just \'floating\' in mid air with 3500lbs of wieght on it doesn\'t make ME sleep good at night!! Now take that same 11 foot piece of glass and put it on a solid topped stand with 1 inch foam on it, and the entire bottom sheet of glass is supported. That is the thing everyone was trying to get across - maybe not so successfully. I\'m sure no malice was intended.

And so everyone knows, this is the longest \"standard\" tank that GlassCages makes. If you take the 130 inch tank and go 130x36x36 with it, it takes the price up by thousands - instead of the $1400 price tag. (when you add in all the holes drilled, overflow boxes etc etc, it comes to $2000) I ran into the same issue...I wanted 130x36x36 but not for THEIR price. I HAD to go with the 130x24x25.

That was a GORGEOUS birdsnest by the way, sorry to hear of it\'s fate. Keep us updated and pleeeeeeeeease fix the stand...or you might be posting in the vendor feedback section sooner than you had hoped.

H2H
Pete i know this is repetative , but both of the persons suggesting that the bottom needs to be supported by foam are correct and supporting the whole lenght of the glass solely on the plastic trim is not the correct way to do this . if not wanting to use such thick foam support then the stand should have been made to so that the plastic trim drops down over the sides and then the bottom is supported by a solid piece of plywood , preferably 3/4" with a thin layer of foam . on small tanks it is not much of an issue but on tanks with glass panels as long as yours it is an issue . this is not written as to bash you , as that is a beautiful tank but as a warning to those that are considering a tank this size in the future .

[JCTewks]

why donj't we just let the stand talk die!! If you've read any of this thread, you'll know that the tankis currently setup and full of corals, as well as being in it's second home, and no floods:)

[Jeremy Blaze]

It is up and running pretty good now( on that flimsy stand!:) )

Once he gets his calcium Reactor on and adjusted, and everything settles in it should really start to take off!

Of course, knowing Tattooreef, once that happens it will be time for an even bigger tank! Time to go 3ft wide!

MAybe then he will put a plywood, foam base under the new tank!

[akbuuur]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/clownj1988/IM000209.jpg

Hey, what wrasse is this- i really like it

[Jeremy Blaze]

That is known as a 'china wrasse', If I remember correctly, it is an Anampses species.

[gwaco]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10915984#post10915984 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JCTewks
why donj't we just let the stand talk die!! If you've read any of this thread, you'll know that the tankis currently setup and full of corals, as well as being in it's second home, and no floods:) f.w.i.w. , yes i have read all the pages of this thread . and my post has nothing to do with the strength of the stand or whether it can support the loaded tank . an 11 foot tank is a lot different then a 26 gallon tank , so maybe you should reread my post and the others that have brought this to the attention of the tank owner . just because its full and operating now has nothing to do with long term strenght stress that will be exerted along the seams of that lenght of glass . if your tank breaks you only lose 26 gallons of water and minimal damage , if his tank burst he has over 300 gallons of water doing major damage.
the reason you don't support a tank that large by the plastic perimeter is the chance of the plastic buckling over time , and once it starts your not going to stop it . good luck !

[new_world_disor]

i love the setup you have here. everyone i know thinks im mad not running a skimmer on my little 30g tank., im impressed u dnt have one ( well a teeny one ) on ur 11footer. looks awesome too. wish stuff was as cheap here in the UK as in the US $2000 for that tank. WOW. id pay bout £4000 for that here ($6000 ish ? )
anyways keep us updated. ( nice tatts btw. )

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[tattooreef]

gwaco for the final time the tank is not resting on plastic trim (there is no plastic trim) it is the 3/4 glass with basicaly rubber for looks the tank is being supported 2 inches thick around the whole perimeter and also has three braces strategically placed for supporting and spanning the weight of this giant. so no worries about any plastic buckeling over time. and to new world disorder thanks for the compliments and yeah i love running skimmerless i just added the small one not to long ago, and i really dont know how permanent it will be , who knows lol, and as for the tats i own 2 tattoo shops and have been tattooing for 13 years, and on my off days from the shops i build custom choppers, wich throws people for a loop when they find out how big of a reef geek i reaally am lol.

[tattooreef]

and honestly i am tired of the constant whining of people about something that is not theirs to the point where im half tempted to remove the thread, my peice of advise put the time spent worrying about my tank into your own! enjoy looking at mine as i would yours and if something does happen in the future i will post about it and you all can tell me TOLD YOU SO, and i will gladly take it. not trying to be rude but i honestly would rather talk about the inhabitants of the tank instead of the stand

[JCTewks]

tattoo...any decisions made on supplemental actinic lighting yet?

[triggerfish1976]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10918810#post10918810 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tattooreef
and honestly i am tired of the constant whining of people about something that is not theirs to the point where im half tempted to remove the thread, my peice of advise put the time spent worrying about my tank into your own! enjoy looking at mine as i would yours and if something does happen in the future i will post about it and you all can tell me TOLD YOU SO, and i will gladly take it. not trying to be rude but i honestly would rather talk about the inhabitants of the tank instead of the stand

You're posting on an open forum asking people for their opinion about your setup.
I love how some people do this in order to "show off" their tanks but only want to hear praise and adulations but get defensive when the advise suggests changing the way something is done or that they might have mad an error in how it was setup.
All I am going to say is good luck and I hope that you don't have problems with the way the tank is supported.

[akbuuur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10917071#post10917071 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy Blaze
That is known as a 'china wrasse', If I remember correctly, it is an Anampses species.

Tattoo or Jeremy can you guys gimme any info on the china wrasse - as in its feeding habits how big of a tank you think itll need and so on... is it a picky eater? Hard to keep? I tried googling it up but to no avail.
Thanks!

[pmjfuture]

nice tank

[ycnibrc]

It is way tooooo late to worry about the stand so move on and enjoy the tank. I don't remember you mention cal reactor or any other equipment?any plan to add on.

[tattooreef]

triggerfish1976 i know this is an open forum and there will be things like this brought up and if you would have bothered to read the thread i do take criticism well its just the talk about the stand is old and its kinda like beating a dead horse. akbuuur i dont have alot of info on the fish even though i own him lol, all i can really say is that he is an exceptionally hardy fish he doesnt mess with the other inhabitants to much and feeds just like any other wrasse, me personally i wouldnt keep him in anything under a 6 ft tank and when i 1st got him i tried googleing him and found nothing also.
and ycnibrc i am adding a cal reactor an aqua controller and a phos reactor this week, wich is weird for me because i usualy run my tanks very low tech.

[tattooreef]

well good news i finally got the electrician over and had 6 dedicated circuits ran specificaly for the tank and started rerunning all of the electrical on those circuits. i got two of the three battery backups back up and functional and am now currently waiting on delivery of the cal reactor (they shipped a single chamber instead of the dual chamber) and the phos reactor will go on this weekend and hopefully the aqua controller as well(if i can figure the thing out) lol

[tattooreef]

ive about got the controller figured out and the cal reactor is still on the way does anyone have a recomendation for a decently priced calcium monitor

[lilchris]

Cool tank man. Love it. To the people that keep harping about his stand, let the man enjoy his tank. What credentials do you guys have to make you an expert on how his stand was built? If he said he got a certified contractor over and built the stand that should have been enough. I have seen on this site, people w/ tanks on the stands that the manufactures made and the bottoms still came out. Let him enjoy his build thread. Good job pimpin. I would fill that thing up with alot of swimmers. I will continue to follow.

[Jeremy Blaze]

The only calcium moniter I know of is Penpoint.

[dougie]

sweet tank.