The T5 Q&a Thread

[the_anti_honda]

Has anyone supplemented their T5's with say incandescent, halogen or LED lighting to achieve the shimmer effect you get from MH lighting?

I'm pretty confident in the fact that I can obtain the growth and color from my corals with T5 bulbs only but if I want the more natural look of a halide how would one go about this cheap and effectively?

[The Grim Reefer]

My tank is too young to get a handle on the growth. Currently using a Fauna Marin fixture. Have an ATI Sunpower on the way. These both are supposed to put out more light than a standard driven T5's we can get in the USA but niot as much as an overdriven system. My tank is 22" tall and I am getting PAR at the sand in the low 300's with this setup. Thats better than most halides.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9780303#post9780303 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tdawgnjlo
How is you coral growth rate? Are you overdriving the bulbs with a 660 ballast? Do you have the Ice Cap reflectors? How deep is your tank?

I am questioning the coral growth rate on my standard 75 gal tank. I run Sunlight Supply retro with their reflectors. 6 X 54 w with Triad Ballasts. I just changed my bulbs about a month ago to:

UVL Super Actinic
ATI Blue +
3000K GE
ATI Blue +
UVL Aquasun
ATI Blue +

Deresa Clam growth is good on sand, zoo growth good lower 1/3 of tank, hammer on sand going south but was recently covered with sand when my powerhead suction cup let go, ricordia, crocea and maxima mid level in tank minor or no growth. Hammer was ok for about a year and a half on sand, but never grew.

All water parameters and flow ok.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9781185#post9781185 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jstlsn
I have decided to get the Tek Light 48" Retrofit: 6-54W T5 HO Fluorescents for my 75 Gallon tank. I am going to get the Ice Cap reflectors and I am going to replace one of the the ballests with an Icecap 430 that I have to overdrive 2 of the bulbs. I would like to maximize growth in my tank. I plan on ordering from Reef Geek.

Which bulbs should I get? Which order should I put them in? Which 2 should I over drive? And finally, which bulds should I turn on early?

Thanks for your help.

Brad

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun (OD)
Blue Plus
GE 6500K (OD)
Blue Plus

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9788636#post9788636 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
I have a Maristar fixture with 2 250watt DE 10k XM bulbs supplemented with 2 39watt URI actinics. I was thinking of changing to the ATI Blue Plus instead of the URI actinics. The URI are a little dark but bring out good florescence. The Blue Plus have a better par and are a little brighter looking from what I read. Since I have never seen this combination it's a difficult decision. Any thoughts?

Do a blue plus in front and a actinic in the back and see what you think.

[moo0o]

hey grim, just installed the t5 kit and bulbs you suggested, it looks great! thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

Pictures

[brandon0350]

would 4 60" t5s with 2 ati blue plus, 2 ati aquablue overdriven with 2 icecap 660s with the new tek 2 reflectors be sufficient lighting for a 60x18x24 mixed reef with a few sps on top?

[Shade00]

Hey Grim, I've read through most of this thread and and the T5 PAR thread - lots and lots of great info - maybe I missed it, but do you have the PAR reading on a GE 3000k bulb? Right now I'm running nothing but a GE 3000k and an ATI Blue Plus, and I'm digging it - so are my corals. Might be too red/orange for most people, but I'm not huge on lots and lots of blue. Anyway, I was just curious about how the PAR on the 3000k ranked.

[mikedege]

Id like to see pix of that Shadee.

-Mike:D

[Josh125]

Hi - I'm getting ready to order my lights for the 29. I'm going for a 14K-ish look, ha. Can you please confirm I have my bulb selection correct?

ATI Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue


Also, I read a lot about upgrading reflectors on the TEK retro to ICE CAPS. How do I do this, do I just call reefgeek on ask them? I don't see that option on their website.

As always, thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

Should work fine except I would use a GE 6500K daylight in place of one of the Aquablues.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9794433#post9794433 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by brandon0350
would 4 60" t5s with 2 ati blue plus, 2 ati aquablue overdriven with 2 icecap 660s with the new tek 2 reflectors be sufficient lighting for a 60x18x24 mixed reef with a few sps on top?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9795697#post9795697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shade00
Hey Grim, I've read through most of this thread and and the T5 PAR thread - lots and lots of great info - maybe I missed it, but do you have the PAR reading on a GE 3000k bulb? Right now I'm running nothing but a GE 3000k and an ATI Blue Plus, and I'm digging it - so are my corals. Might be too red/orange for most people, but I'm not huge on lots and lots of blue. Anyway, I was just curious about how the PAR on the 3000k ranked.

The 3000K had a little higher PAR than the new style 6500K.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9795888#post9795888 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Josh125
Hi - I'm getting ready to order my lights for the 29. I'm going for a 14K-ish look, ha. Can you please confirm I have my bulb selection correct?

ATI Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue


Also, I read a lot about upgrading reflectors on the TEK retro to ICE CAPS. How do I do this, do I just call reefgeek on ask them? I don't see that option on their website.

As always, thanks.

Yep, just call. The mix of lamps you have will be close to 14K. If you like a little more blue swap the Aquablue out for a blue plus.

[Josh125]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9796066#post9796066 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Yep, just call. The mix of lamps you have will be close to 14K. If you like a little more blue swap the Aquablue out for a blue plus.

I am guessing that swap would get me closer to 20K and if I remember keep the PAR roughly the same, correct?

I so wish there was a picture directory with everyone's bulb combo.... :D

[The Grim Reefer]

Yep.

[sevenkillers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9677246#post9677246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
A 8x80 watt Ice Cap retro is about the best choice. I would run a GE 6500K, a Gieseman midday, 2 Aquablues 3 blue Pluses and a Pure actinic.

I am having trouble finding a fixture that is 72 inch long.
They are some available at ebay. Any luck with those?
Any help is appreciated.

[The Grim Reefer]

Aquactinics makes the only good 72" T5 setup.

[tbone28]

Hi Grim,

Tank will be 6' x 2' x 2', mixed reef (~50% SPS)

I'm looking at the Aquactinics Constellation and ATI's (Sunpower vs. Powermodul)

What do you think is the best setup?

Some thoughts:

Aquactinics: 14x39w (72" wide, but only 14" deep)

Sunpower: 4 of the 4x39w (72" wide and 18-20" deep)
Sunpower: 2 each of the 4x39w & 6x39w (72"W & 23-24" deep)
Sunpower: 1 each of the 4x54w & 6x54w(48"W and 23-24" deep)

Powermodul: 1 of the 10x54w (48"W & 22" deep)
Powermodul: 1 of the 8x54w (48"W & 18" deep)
Powermodul: 2 each of the 10x39w (72"W & 22" deep)
Powermodul: 2 each of the 8x39W (72"W & 18" deep)

Aquactinics is the cheapest, and easiest to install, but is it deep enough?

Sunpower vs. Powermodul:
Looks are not important to me. Fixtures will be hidden.
Sunpower is much cheaper, but only has 1 fan per fixture. Powermodul will have 1 fan for every 2 bulbs. Are the extra fans worth the extra money?

Thanks

[tbone28]

Hi Grim,

Tank will be 6' x 2' x 2', mixed reef (~50% SPS)

I'm looking at the Aquactinics Constellation and ATI's (Sunpower vs. Powermodul)

What do you think is the best setup?

Some thoughts:

Aquactinics: 14x39w (72" wide, but only 14" deep)

Sunpower: 4 of the 4x39w (72" wide and 18-20" deep)
Sunpower: 2 each of the 4x39w & 6x39w (72"W & 23-24" deep)
Sunpower: 1 each of the 4x54w & 6x54w(48"W and 23-24" deep)

Powermodul: 1 of the 10x54w (48"W & 22" deep)
Powermodul: 1 of the 8x54w (48"W & 18" deep)
Powermodul: 2 each of the 10x39w (72"W & 22" deep)
Powermodul: 2 each of the 8x39W (72"W & 18" deep)

Aquactinics is the cheapest, and easiest to install, but is it deep enough?

Sunpower vs. Powermodul:
Looks are not important to me. Fixtures will be hidden.
Sunpower is much cheaper, but only has 1 fan per fixture. Powermodul will have 1 fan for every 2 bulbs. Are the extra fans worth the extra money?

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

If you aren't in a big hurry Sun Power hands down. 2 of the 36" units would be the way to go. I will have one in my hot little hands in a few days. If the performance is close to the power module it will be a way better deal, about 50 bux less than the Power Module. Fauna Marin has a fixture that would work great but the price is way too high on those.

[maveric3444]

Ok I think I have a new idea. I want to use the new 24" Aquactinics TX5 fixture but starting out it will likely be too much light at 14" above the sand since Ill be doing beginner corals. Can I use the two bulb circuit for morning and evening actinics and shut them off when I turn the three bulb circuit on? Then I have the capability to advance to higher light corals later. Also, what bulb combo would you suggest if I can go this route?

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802093#post9802093 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
If you aren't in a big hurry Sun Power hands down. 2 of the 36" units would be the way to go. I will have one in my hot little hands in a few days. If the performance is close to the power module it will be a way better deal, about 50 bux less than the Power Module. Fauna Marin has a fixture that would work great but the price is way too high on those.

Not in a hurry at all. Timeline is 2-3 months to set-up the tank, but I would like to pre-order with Greg at ReefGeeks.

So what combination of the 36" units do you suggest?

They come in 4-bulb and 6-bulb fixtures.

I was actually considering hanging 4 fixtures: 4 of the 4x39watts. Overkill?

I'm eagerly awaiting your test results of the Sunpower. I'm curious if the extra fans that the Powermodul justify the price.

[jamesdawson]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802093#post9802093 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
If you aren't in a big hurry Sun Power hands down. 2 of the 36" units would be the way to go. I will have one in my hot little hands in a few days. If the performance is close to the power module it will be a way better deal, about 50 bux less than the Power Module. Fauna Marin has a fixture that would work great but the price is way too high on those.

If SunPowers are only $50 less than equivalent #bulbs PowerModuls than thats not a great deal at all. In Europe the SunPower lists for about 1/2 the price of PowerModuls.

P.S., I would like to get one if the price is right:) .

James

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802690#post9802690 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jamesdawson
If SunPowers are only $50 less than equivalent #bulbs PowerModuls than thats not a great deal at all. In Europe the SunPower lists for about 1/2 the price of PowerModuls.

P.S., I would like to get one if the price is right:) .

James

Based on an email from Greg at ReefGeek, the approximate differences in price for 36" fixtures will be:

One 8-bulb Powermodule will cost $250 more than two 4-bulb SunPowers

One 10-bulb Powermodul will cost $350 more than one 4-bulb + one 6-bulb Sunpower

The savings are pretty significant. However, you need to hang 2 Sunpower fixtures to get the same # of bulbs in 1 Powermodule. You also get fewer fans in the Sunpower.

Personally, I don't mind hanging multiple fixtures, because they will all be inside of cabinetry.

[deucetowe]

Yo, Gurus!

I'm setting up a new 75gal tank and am looking at the 48", 6-54W Tek light with mounting brackets for the fixture. Tank size is the following: 48"long x 21" tall x 18.5" deep. My wife does not want a hanging fixture in our living room.

I definitely want lunar lights, so I need to get some input on lunar light mounting methods. I must have a very professional finish, so should I just go with the Nova Extreme 48" 8-bulb fixture that already has the lunars included instead of the Tek and deal with 3rd party lunar? I'm open to any solutions, but I'd like to keep unsightly wires from cluttering up any part of the tank.

Can I exchange the T5 bulbs in the Noa Extreme with your recommendations from earlier in this thread?

I want to be able to keep whatever I want in the future, with quality, not quantity of organisms being my focus. Definitely a clam, some SPS, and anemones... Going to try my luck with a Valentini puffer, Foxface, Clown, etc.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for you guys. Thanks for any and all input.

[jamesdawson]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802973#post9802973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deucetowe
Yo, Gurus!

I'm setting up a new 75gal tank and am looking at the 48", 6-54W Tek light with mounting brackets for the fixture. Tank size is the following: 48"long x 21" tall x 18.5" deep. My wife does not want a hanging fixture in our living room.

I definitely want lunar lights, so I need to get some input on lunar light mounting methods. I must have a very professional finish, so should I just go with the Nova Extreme 48" 8-bulb fixture that already has the lunars included instead of the Tek and deal with 3rd party lunar? I'm open to any solutions, but I'd like to keep unsightly wires from cluttering up any part of the tank.

Can I exchange the T5 bulbs in the Noa Extreme with your recommendations from earlier in this thread?

I want to be able to keep whatever I want in the future, with quality, not quantity of organisms being my focus. Definitely a clam, some SPS, and anemones... Going to try my luck with a Valentini puffer, Foxface, Clown, etc.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for you guys. Thanks for any and all input.

You would be smart to get a SunPower or for the ultimate cool looks--a PowerModul, they will blow away both the Tek and the Nova in PAR and efficiency. They can be hung or set on top of a tank. ReefGeek has them coming in a month or two. Better call and reserve one (no charge for this) in order to ensure getting one on the first shipment. Coolest thing about ATI fixtures is they only have one wire from the fixture to a remote mountable box where it splits into multiple wires for the bulbs. Very clean setup IMHO!

Lunar lights are easy to do as an add-on, there are lots of different options out there. I use the lunar light that came with my Tunze MultiController and love the way it auto dims and brightens through the moonlight cycle:)

James

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802690#post9802690 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jamesdawson
If SunPowers are only $50 less than equivalent #bulbs PowerModuls than thats not a great deal at all. In Europe the SunPower lists for about 1/2 the price of PowerModuls.

P.S., I would like to get one if the price is right:) .

James

A Fauna Marin 6x54 unit is 600 bux with the lamps. Reefgeek says the Sunpower will be about 100 bucks less with lamps. 500 with lamps, not sure what the 6x54 watt Powermodule will go for.

[ChiiBear]

From ReefGeek, not sure the limited time is over or not.

> For a limited time the prices below include your choice of bulbs.

> ATI 48" Powermodule: 4-54W T5 HO Fluorescents ~ $489.00

> ATI 48" Powermodule: 6-54W T5 HO Fluorescents ~ $719.00

[The Grim Reefer]

So the Sun Power is a couple hundred less than the powermodule, that seems about right in line with what I've heard.

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802484#post9802484 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
Not in a hurry at all. Timeline is 2-3 months to set-up the tank, but I would like to pre-order with Greg at ReefGeeks.

So what combination of the 36" units do you suggest?

They come in 4-bulb and 6-bulb fixtures.

I was actually considering hanging 4 fixtures: 4 of the 4x39watts. Overkill?



Grim,

Did you forget about me? I'd like to tap your knowledge and experience! :rollface:

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9805499#post9805499 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
Grim,

Did you forget about me? I'd like to tap your knowledge and experience! :rollface:

I answered you on the last page. Hang lose for the Sunpowers from ATI if you can. I will have one here to play with shortly. If it performs even close to the Powermodule it will be the way to go.

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9805786#post9805786 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
I answered you on the last page. Hang lose for the Sunpowers from ATI if you can. I will have one here to play with shortly. If it performs even close to the Powermodule it will be the way to go.

How many bulbs should I use for a mixed reef? The Sunpowers come in 4-bulb and 6-bulb fixtures. Sorry to bother!

[maveric3444]

Ok I think I have a new idea. I want to use the new 24" Aquactinics TX5 fixture but starting out it will likely be too much light at 14" above the sand since Ill be doing beginner corals. Can I use the two bulb circuit for morning and evening actinics and shut them off when I turn the three bulb circuit on? Then I have the capability to advance to higher light corals later. Also, what bulb combo would you suggest if I can go this route? Thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9805835#post9805835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
How many bulbs should I use for a mixed reef? The Sunpowers come in 4-bulb and 6-bulb fixtures. Sorry to bother!

6

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9806218#post9806218 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
6

Thanks, Grim! So I'll get on the waiting list with Greg at ReefGeek for 2 of the 6x39W fixtures. That'll give me 468 watts spread 72" end-to-end and 10" front-to-back.

I suppose I'll keep any SPS in the upper-half of the tank, right below the lights, and my softies elsewhere?

[The Grim Reefer]

If these things perform like the Power Module you can keep SPS at about any level as long as they are under the lamps.

[tbone28]

I sure hope they perform close to the Powermodules. The cost savings are huge! Can't wait for your review! Thanks for your help :)

[maveric3444]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9805875#post9805875 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by maveric3444
Ok I think I have a new idea. I want to use the new 24" Aquactinics TX5 fixture but starting out it will likely be too much light at 14" above the sand since Ill be doing beginner corals. Can I use the two bulb circuit for morning and evening actinics and shut them off when I turn the three bulb circuit on? Then I have the capability to advance to higher light corals later. Also, what bulb combo would you suggest if I can go this route? Thanks.

Grim, any ideas on a bulb combo for this? Or is it just a bad idea? Thanks for all your advice so far.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9807567#post9807567 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by maveric3444
Grim, any ideas on a bulb combo for this? Or is it just a bad idea? Thanks for all your advice so far.

Run a Actinic and a Blue Plus for dusk/dawn and a Blue Plus, Actinic and a Sun/daylight lamp for your main.

[JamesV77]

Thanks Grim For your great advice. I didn't specifically ask you a question but reading through here I found a response from you to another reefer that guided me to my answer. I picked up a TX5 Series Aquactinics 48" 5 lamp T5 fixture and went with one of your bulb arrangements. It looks great. A clean looking white with a perfect hint of blue. Thanks again for your support on here.

1. ATI Aquablue
2. UVL Super Actinic Dawn
3. UVL Aquasun
4. ATI Blue Plus Dawn
5. ATI Blue Plus

[juniormc8704]

can somebody please link me to ATI T5 lighting fixtures, i cant find them anywhere online.

thanks

Paul

[ChiiBear]

German website though...

http://www.atiaquaristik.com/index.php?id=114,0,0,1,0,0

http://www.atiaquaristik.com/index.php?id=113,0,0,1,0,0

[deucetowe]

Thanks for the heads up guys and the information. I think I flooded you with too many questions at once and my main question slipped through...

Can I exchange the T5 bulbs in the Noa Extreme with your recommendations from earlier in this thread?

I know the ATI Powermodules would be awesome, but I'm going to have to wait on them... I'm sure I won't be able to talk the wife into it until I show some results. I barely got the entire project approved on the budget banking on the Nova Extremes.

If you haven't read my other post, I've just gotten my green jello tank back under control. I could get the Powermodules if I pushed, but that doesn't help me with my desire for a custom acrylic sump/fuge design for the limited stand space, now does it... :D

So back to my question: For the next year or so, during which I won't be stocking the tank heavily anyway, will I be able to get by with the Nova Extreme w/lunar fixture and exchange the lamps with the following for an added plus:

2x ATI Aquablue
2x ATI Blue+
1x GE 3000k
1x UVL SuperActinic

I am looking to purchase the Powermodule next summer as long as I can produce great results with this new tank.

Thanks again, everyone!

[sirjohn]

Grim,

I have the ever-challenging 92 gallon corner tank on order. I would love to go with halides, but the heat in s. florida would require I get a chiller and there is really no room for one.

Instead, I am planning to retrofit into the canopy 4 x 36 watt T5s on individual Icecap reflectors (running across the front of the tank from left to right), and 4 X 24 watt T5s behind those. I will be using Icecap reflectors and 2 Icecap 660 ballasts, so I assume the lamps will be overdriven. I am also thinking of staggering the lamps (left to right) to try and eliminate any dark spots on the sides.

What kind of bulb combination would you recommend? I prefer a blue look (equivalent to, say, 14k halides with PC actinic supplementation).

I am planning on keeping softies, LPS and a clam or two. No SPS at this time.

Thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9810555#post9810555 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deucetowe
Thanks for the heads up guys and the information. I think I flooded you with too many questions at once and my main question slipped through...

Can I exchange the T5 bulbs in the Noa Extreme with your recommendations from earlier in this thread?

I know the ATI Powermodules would be awesome, but I'm going to have to wait on them... I'm sure I won't be able to talk the wife into it until I show some results. I barely got the entire project approved on the budget banking on the Nova Extremes.

If you haven't read my other post, I've just gotten my green jello tank back under control. I could get the Powermodules if I pushed, but that doesn't help me with my desire for a custom acrylic sump/fuge design for the limited stand space, now does it... :D

So back to my question: For the next year or so, during which I won't be stocking the tank heavily anyway, will I be able to get by with the Nova Extreme w/lunar fixture and exchange the lamps with the following for an added plus:

2x ATI Aquablue
2x ATI Blue+
1x GE 3000k
1x UVL SuperActinic

I am looking to purchase the Powermodule next summer as long as I can produce great results with this new tank.

Thanks again, everyone!

You should be fine and yes the lamps are interchangable

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9810615#post9810615 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sirjohn
Grim,

I have the ever-challenging 92 gallon corner tank on order. I would love to go with halides, but the heat in s. florida would require I get a chiller and there is really no room for one.

Instead, I am planning to retrofit into the canopy 4 x 36 watt T5s on individual Icecap reflectors (running across the front of the tank from left to right), and 4 X 24 watt T5s behind those. I will be using Icecap reflectors and 2 Icecap 660 ballasts, so I assume the lamps will be overdriven. I am also thinking of staggering the lamps (left to right) to try and eliminate any dark spots on the sides.

What kind of bulb combination would you recommend? I prefer a blue look (equivalent to, say, 14k halides with PC actinic supplementation).

I am planning on keeping softies, LPS and a clam or two. No SPS at this time.

Thanks.


I would do one UVL Aquasun and 1 UVL Super Actinic in each size and then use Blue Plus for the rest as a start. Order a GE 6500K in each size as a spare and to allow you to play with different combinations of lamps.

[sirjohn]

Thank you Grim.

As far as bulb placement, does this combination look okay to you?

Blue Plus - 36 watt
Blue Plus - 36 watt
Super Actinic - 36 watt
Aquasun (or GE 6500k) - 36 watt
Aquasun (or GE 6500k) - 24 watt
Super Actinic - 24 watt
Blue Plus - 24 watt
Blue Plus - 24 watt

Thanks again.

[brandon0350]

any thoughts on the tek II reflectors? i wanted to get a retro w/ 2 36 slr reflectors for my 60" bulbs but my supplier said to go with the 60" tek II cuz they are just as good?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9811811#post9811811 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sirjohn
Thank you Grim.

As far as bulb placement, does this combination look okay to you?

Blue Plus - 36 watt
Blue Plus - 36 watt
Super Actinic - 36 watt
Aquasun (or GE 6500k) - 36 watt
Aquasun (or GE 6500k) - 24 watt
Super Actinic - 24 watt
Blue Plus - 24 watt
Blue Plus - 24 watt

Thanks again.


Should at least be a good place to start

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9813239#post9813239 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by brandon0350
any thoughts on the tek II reflectors? i wanted to get a retro w/ 2 36 slr reflectors for my 60" bulbs but my supplier said to go with the 60" tek II cuz they are just as good?

The Tek 2's are like 3" wide so make sure you have room. As far as I know there has been no PAR comparisons yet so I dont know where the supplier got the info about "just as good"/

[deucetowe]

Grim,

Thanks so much for your help. One more question and I'll leave you alone. Will I be okay with the 4-54 Watt fixture, or should I go for the 8-54Watt fixture?

I just wasn't sure, and didn't want to overdue it. If the 8, what should I purchase for the other two positions in the fixture, and what order should I place them in. I have copied the original setup below so you don't have to go looking for it again.

2x ATI Aquablue
2x ATI Blue+
1x GE 3000k
1x UVL SuperActinic


Thanks, I have no idea how you do this, but it is very much appreciated!

[TropTrea]

Remember that 70% of this is coral growth and 50% of it is your personal taste in color. yea I know I'm over 100%.

My overall suggestion is goging like this for an 8 Bulb fixture:

Viewing Front of Tank

>>>>>Atinic 420nm blue/violet
>>>>>6,500K slight yellow tint but still considered cool by some
>>>>>Atinic 460nm blue
>>>>> 10,000K crisp white
>>>>> 10,000K crisp white
>>>>>Atinic 4200nm blue
>>>>> 3,000 to 4,100K definate warm yellow
>>>>>Atinic 420 nm blue/violet
Rear Back of the Tank

Now some people might like to go a little more blue so in that case "I'd start by swapping one of the 10K Bulbs for a 50/50 bulb and working from there.

Dennis

[The Grim Reefer]

If you are using a Nova use 8 lamps.

Blue Plus
Aquablue
Super Actinic
Blue Plus
GE 3000K
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Blue Plus

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9813982#post9813982 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deucetowe
Grim,

Thanks so much for your help. One more question and I'll leave you alone. Will I be okay with the 4-54 Watt fixture, or should I go for the 8-54Watt fixture?

I just wasn't sure, and didn't want to overdue it. If the 8, what should I purchase for the other two positions in the fixture, and what order should I place them in. I have copied the original setup below so you don't have to go looking for it again.

2x ATI Aquablue
2x ATI Blue+
1x GE 3000k
1x UVL SuperActinic


Thanks, I have no idea how you do this, but it is very much appreciated!

[broke1]

I'm considering turning a 75 into a frag tank. Ebay has some decent looking 8x54watt retro kits built by Catalina Aquarium. They give the option to get Aquablue, sunlight bulbs, or 6500k.

I would like to try to keep almost everything, just to see if I can do it.

What would you suggest for good growth and color?

Thanks in advance.

[The Grim Reefer]

Get a decent 4 lamp retro, you'll use half the lamps and electricity and have more light.

[broke1]

I'll take your suggestion as a nice way of saying that set up is junk, that's OK, I like honesty.

What would you suggest and what bulbs?

Will 4 be enough for a decent frag tank?

Reefgeek was good to me when I bought my Tek from him, so he will probably be who I go with.

I like the T5s, but maybe I will explore other avenues, thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

Go with 4 lamps with the new (huge) Tek II reflectors. I would use a GE 3000K, a 6500K and 2 ATI Blue Plus.

[yaktop]

I just ordered a 270 and will go with 24" t5's between the 3 lumenarcs with 250's. what is the best brand, spectrum, caps, and ballasts should I use?

and also can I stagger two bulbs in one reflector to save width? I dont want to run the end t5's over the euro brace and would rather use 2 rather than 1 between the lumenarcs - Your thoughts? should had ordered a 7 instead of a 6 ft tank I guess.

thanks in advance.

[The Grim Reefer]

A combination of blue plus and super actinic T5's is probably the best for supplimental light. Standard T4k retros should do fine.

[broke1]

The Tek IIs seem to be harder to find than I had thought. As far as retros go, which do you suggest? I looked at Icecap and Sunlight.

I might go with a fixture just to make life easier, so another Tek might be in order.

[The Grim Reefer]

Reefgeek will upgrade a Tek retro to IC reflectors cheap.

[revclyburn]

Hey Grim, Hahnmeister,

what would be the best combination of bulbs for SPS and LPS corals? I have a Tek 6X54

RevClyburn

[The Grim Reefer]

Super actinic, Aquasun, Aquablue or GE daylight and 3 blue plus.

[revclyburn]

What color light would that be, white blue yellow?

[The Grim Reefer]

It will be 14K halide like. Using an Aquablue rather than a GE daylight will make it a little stronger blue color but not like a 20K

[njdevilsfan]

hey grim reefer im an idiot in advance so
im getting a all glass 210 tank with a custom hood
i want to go all t5s is this possible and what type of system will come with fans
i keep just soft corals and such nothing advanced

[fijiblue]

OK, here is a question....those of you that run T5's, do you set the bulbs up sequentially like 10,20,10,20,10,10 or do you group them like 20,10,10,10,10,20? I have tried both and I feel like there is not enough concentrated output running them in a sequential order.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9823049#post9823049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by njdevilsfan
hey grim reefer im an idiot in advance so
im getting a all glass 210 tank with a custom hood
i want to go all t5s is this possible and what type of system will come with fans
i keep just soft corals and such nothing advanced

Get a 6x80 retrofit from reefgeek. That will be fine for softies.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9823649#post9823649 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fijiblue
OK, here is a question....those of you that run T5's, do you set the bulbs up sequentially like 10,20,10,20,10,10 or do you group them like 20,10,10,10,10,20? I have tried both and I feel like there is not enough concentrated output running them in a sequential order.

What's it matter? The only time you're not running all the lamps is dusk/dawn and intensity doesn't much matter then. Just go with what looks best during dusk/dawn

[Aquabucket]

Hi Grim its been awhile. Hope all is well! I just wanted to get your opinion on the UVL actinic white vs the ATI aquablue special. How do they compare in color and PAR?

Thanks!

[ecfarr]

hey grim,
thanks in advance for your response.

what would be the best 5 bulb combo for a 55g tank? I want to have softies, lps and sps. also what order from front to back do you suggest for best coloration?

[pulpol]

is the sun blaze by sunlight supply a good fixture?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9825880#post9825880 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquabucket
Hi Grim its been awhile. Hope all is well! I just wanted to get your opinion on the UVL actinic white vs the ATI aquablue special. How do they compare in color and PAR?

Thanks!

The actinic white is a bizzare looking lamp, kinda pinkish. I would stick with the Aquablue.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9825955#post9825955 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ecfarr
hey grim,
thanks in advance for your response.

what would be the best 5 bulb combo for a 55g tank? I want to have softies, lps and sps. also what order from front to back do you suggest for best coloration?

Assuming your using the aquactinics?

Front

Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue or for a less blue look GE 6500K
Blue Plus

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9829789#post9829789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pulpol
is the sun blaze by sunlight supply a good fixture?

Probably equal to a Nove Etreme.

[Aquabucket]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9830038#post9830038 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
The actinic white is a bizzare looking lamp, kinda pinkish. I would stick with the Aquablue.

Actually I might like that. I really dig the the Aquasuns.

Here is an 8 bulb config I was thinking of throwing it in with.

Listed front to back and staggered in pairs ~ DD = dawn/dusk, DL = daylight

ATI blue plus ~ DD
UVL Superactinic ~ DD
ATI Aqua Blue Special ~ DL
UVL Aqua Sun ~ DL
ATI blue Plus ~ DD
UVL Superactinic ~ DD
UVL Actinic White ~ DL
ATI Blue Plus ~ DL

I want a blue (20- 15K) look that will also bring out the color of red, pink and orange zoos.

[The Grim Reefer]

With 8 lamps you would probably be OK with that.

[Aquabucket]

The UVL actinic white is the only high quality T5 bulb I have not tried yet. I think it sounds interesting. That config might look pretty cool and give the corals a bit of a psychedelic look.

Thanks again for all for your help!

[ecfarr]

Hi grim, sorry i didn't specify earlier.

I asked you about the best 5 bulb combo. I am just using diy lighting. this was your response

Assuming your using the aquactinics?

Front

Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue or for a less blue look GE 6500K
Blue Plus

However, I am thinking of using 4 bulbs for a regular photoperiod (10-12 hours) and turning on a 5th for 4 hours (11-3) during the day. I am assuming you would suggest the 5th bulb to be a 6500k. I don't care about the tank color during the 4 hours because I won't be home during that time, but I would like to have a very nice looking blue color during the time that the 4 bulbs will be on that will also help growth of sps, lps, and softies.

[ecfarr]

Hi grim, sorry i didn't specify earlier.

I asked you about the best 5 bulb combo. I am just using diy lighting. this was your response

Assuming your using the aquactinics?

Front

Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue or for a less blue look GE 6500K
Blue Plus

However, I am thinking of using 4 bulbs for a regular photoperiod (10-12 hours) and turning on a 5th for 4 hours (11-3) during the day. I am assuming you would suggest the 5th bulb to be a 6500k. I don't care about the tank color during the 4 hours because I won't be home during that time, but I would like to have a very nice looking blue color during the time that the 4 bulbs will be on that will also help growth of sps, lps, and softies.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9831668#post9831668 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ecfarr
Hi grim, sorry i didn't specify earlier.

I asked you about the best 5 bulb combo. I am just using diy lighting. this was your response

Assuming your using the aquactinics?

Front

Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue or for a less blue look GE 6500K
Blue Plus

However, I am thinking of using 4 bulbs for a regular photoperiod (10-12 hours) and turning on a 5th for 4 hours (11-3) during the day. I am assuming you would suggest the 5th bulb to be a 6500k. I don't care about the tank color during the 4 hours because I won't be home during that time, but I would like to have a very nice looking blue color during the time that the 4 bulbs will be on that will also help growth of sps, lps, and softies.

Yeah, 6500K

[Quatro]

Hey guys, just need some clarification...

The aquasun is white, the actinic white is pinkish, correct? Does the aquasun give off any reddish/pinkish color, or is it just the actinic white?

Reason I ask is becuase I really dig the Fiji Purple when used sparingly with enough blue bulbs, so I'm looking for it's equivalent. Fiji Purple is a 50/50% combo of red spectrum and actinic which yeilds the pinkish look. Ugly on it's own, but having one in a combo of whites/blues looks killer...

[The Grim Reefer]

Both are kinda pinkish.

[tprize]

Grim I am looking for a 24" fixture for myself now, I am about 3 months away from buying so I am just getting ideas. It has to be a complete unit, I don't have a canopy and can't hang it. I want to keep softies and LPS. If the price of a unit that can hold clams and SPS isn't that much more, I would go with that. I would like moon lights, but individual controls for Blue and White are a must. Please let me know what my options are for a quality built light system with legs.

[The Grim Reefer]

24" Aquactinics units should be out by then

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9806604#post9806604 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
Thanks, Grim! So I'll get on the waiting list with Greg at ReefGeek for 2 of the 6x39W fixtures. That'll give me 468 watts spread 72" end-to-end and 10" front-to-back.

I suppose I'll keep any SPS in the upper-half of the tank, right below the lights, and my softies elsewhere?

Grim,

I've pre-ordered (2) 6x39W Sunpowers with Greg.

What's the best bulb combination for a 6x2x2 180g mixed reef?

Edit to my post above: The fixtures give 13.5" coverage front-to-back, not the 10" I posted.

[The Grim Reefer]

For 6 lamps I would do this,

Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
Aquasun
GE 6500K or ATI Aquablue for a more blue look
Blue Plus
Aquablue

[bobbbm]

I have an Nova Extreme 48" T5 Over my 27 Gal AGA bowfront...

http://www.jcaquatics.com/page7.html

It is Configured this way Front to back Atinic, 10K, Atinic, 10K, True Blue ,10k true Blue, 10K. Single Reflector ( i know) I have notices that my 2 clams are looking bleached in the center of the mantles (unless I am paranoid) Am I wrong thinking that this should be enough light for most things? My hard corals are up top in the tank the clams are in the substrate.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8977/dscf2045editedfq4.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2045editedfq4.jpg)



thanks
Bob

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9838420#post9838420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
For 6 lamps I would do this,

Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
Aquasun
GE 6500K or ATI Aquablue for a more blue look
Blue Plus
Aquablue

Other than the GE bulb, are all the others ATI bulbs?

[The Grim Reefer]

Aquasun and Super Actinic are UVL, others are ATI

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9838550#post9838550 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bobbbm
I have an Nova Extreme 48" T5 Over my 27 Gal AGA bowfront...

http://www.jcaquatics.com/page7.html

It is Configured this way Front to back Atinic, 10K, Atinic, 10K, True Blue ,10k true Blue, 10K. Single Reflector ( i know) I have notices that my 2 clams are looking bleached in the center of the mantles (unless I am paranoid) Am I wrong thinking that this should be enough light for most things? My hard corals are up top in the tank the clams are in the substrate.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8977/dscf2045editedfq4.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2045editedfq4.jpg)



thanks
Bob

With decent lamps you should be OK. I would change out what you have with good lamps within the 6 month mark of when you started using them just to be safe.

[Mac Inger]

Grim,...thanks for being the teacher here. As i am about to drop some money in the direction of Aquactinics, I figured i would ask here although it might be redundant (tried to read through the thread as much as i could)

I have this tank :

18 wide
23 deep
60 long

I want to keep a mixed reef. Will start with softies, lps but wouldnt mind eventually getting sps and clams. In fact im sure i will try them.

Thinking of getting the 48 inch Solar Flare. Any reasons not to ? The constellation maybe ? What bulb combo would you recommend ?

thank you sir

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9842070#post9842070 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mac Inger
Grim,...thanks for being the teacher here. As i am about to drop some money in the direction of Aquactinics, I figured i would ask here although it might be redundant (tried to read through the thread as much as i could)

I have this tank :

18 wide
23 deep
60 long

I want to keep a mixed reef. Will start with softies, lps but wouldnt mind eventually getting sps and clams. In fact im sure i will try them.

Thinking of getting the 48 inch Solar Flare. Any reasons not to ? The constellation maybe ? What bulb combo would you recommend ?

thank you sir

I think the Solar Flare would be a good unit if your are serious about clams. If you just plan and a couple of low light clams wait for the 48" constellation/

[Mac Inger]

No,..nothing in particular about clams.

Any reason why you would pick the constellation over the solar flare Grim ?

[The Grim Reefer]

Extra lamp and more controll. The Constellation has 3 lamp circuits so you can do a Dusk/dawn, sun rise/set and noontime phase with the lamps.

[brandon0350]

hey grim, i just purchased a 36" 8 bulb tek fixture for my 40 breeder. ive used the ati blue plus and aquablue bulbs before and i really liked them. i was originally planning to do 5 blue plus with 3 aquablues but id like to hear your opinion and what order the bulbs should be placed in. i also have a ge3000 sitting in my garage i can use if you think i should. thanks for the help

[The Grim Reefer]

I would throw the 3000K in the mix for sure. Also a Actinic for sure.

[brandon0350]

so 4 blue plus, a super actinic, a 3000k, and 2 aquablue? what order should the bulb placement be?

[The Grim Reefer]

Try to get the 3K toward the middle and the actinic toward the front, maybe a thrird of the way back from the front. Just mix up the rest to get an even distribution.

[Mac Inger]

Grim,..thanks for the reply. Always helpful

[chrisc615]

I'm changing over to a 120 from my 125 and I'm pretty sure I want to go T5s. Currently I run 6 VHOs on 2 IC 660s and 2 AS-220s on the 125. Greg from Reefgeek told me to run 6 48" T5s on IC reflectors with my two 660's on the 120. I mainly have lps with a few digis and clams. Do you think this would be too much with the over driven bulbs? Or should I just go with 4 T5s on a 660 and 2 actinics on a 220?

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

The 6 lamps sound about right. Use a couple Super Actinics, 2 Blue Pluses, A UVL Aquasun and a ATI Aquablue and you should be good.

[sevenkillers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9677246#post9677246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
A 8x80 watt Ice Cap retro is about the best choice. I would run a GE 6500K, a Gieseman midday, 2 Aquablues 3 blue Pluses and a Pure actinic.

I have decided to go with the aquatronics 14 bulbs 39 watts
72 inch fixture.

Which comb of lights bulb would you suggest?
How long should I leave the lights on?
Would this be enough light for clams and sps?
I currently have 3-250 watts HQI, and 4 96 watts power compact

[dbg7798]

Grim,

Have been reading through this monster for about two weeks now and still not sure on my situation.

Currently setting up a 58g 36x18x21 with shallow sand bed ~ 1.5" with 4x96 PC retro (2x10k + 2x Actinic 03). I am very concerned about the heat and would like to switch over to T5's.

Since I only in for about a year with reefs will be looking to go with some LPS, zoas, rics and some mushrooms.

Was thinking a 4x39 (triad ballast with IC reflectors)set up would be a good choice, but have seen comments that it may be too much light for shrooms and rics.

What would you recommend?

Thanks in advance,
Doug

[pulpol]

i just bought a used sun blaze from a friend and it comes with 4 brand new gieseman pure actinics and 4 old GE bulbs(don't know what K rating) what bulb combo would be best for a LPS/softy set up? thanks a lot!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9859032#post9859032 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sevenkillers
I have decided to go with the aquatronics 14 bulbs 39 watts
72 inch fixture.

Which comb of lights bulb would you suggest?
How long should I leave the lights on?
Would this be enough light for clams and sps?
I currently have 3-250 watts HQI, and 4 96 watts power compact

Try this, you can do a 3 stage lighting scheme. Do rows 2&6 12 hours as dusk, dawn. Rows 1, 4 & 7 10 hours and 4&6 8 hours

front

Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9859503#post9859503 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dbg7798
Grim,

Have been reading through this monster for about two weeks now and still not sure on my situation.

Currently setting up a 58g 36x18x21 with shallow sand bed ~ 1.5" with 4x96 PC retro (2x10k + 2x Actinic 03). I am very concerned about the heat and would like to switch over to T5's.

Since I only in for about a year with reefs will be looking to go with some LPS, zoas, rics and some mushrooms.

Was thinking a 4x39 (triad ballast with IC reflectors)set up would be a good choice, but have seen comments that it may be too much light for shrooms and rics.

What would you recommend?

Thanks in advance,
Doug

I think a 4 lamp system will be fine. Try a UVL Aquasun, a Super Actinic and 2 ATI Blue Pluses. Should look good with those corals.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9860179#post9860179 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pulpol
i just bought a used sun blaze from a friend and it comes with 4 brand new gieseman pure actinics and 4 old GE bulbs(don't know what K rating) what bulb combo would be best for a LPS/softy set up? thanks a lot!

I would use 2 of the actinics and 2 of the GE's and add 3 Blue Plus and a Aquablue.

[dbg7798]

Grim,

Thanks for the reply and bulb suggestion, that would have been the next question.

Doug

[reefboy12]

Hey Grim,

I have a 4x24w t5 ho on a 25g & I am keeping mostly lps/sps & would like to now the best bulb combo to keep blue acros? I currently run
Blue plus, aquasun, aquablue, blueplus.

would blue,plus,aquasun,blueplus,blueplus be better?

thanks in advance

[The Grim Reefer]

What you have should be good. Maybe swap a aquablue for a super actinic and see what you think.

[Josh125]

Quick wiring question. What color wire to use for the connecting wire that run from lamp 1 to lamp 2? Or does it not matter if it's blue or red?

Any tips so I don't burn my house down while I"m at this?

[sevenkillers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9860816#post9860816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Try this, you can do a 3 stage lighting scheme. Do rows 2&6 12 hours as dusk, dawn. Rows 1, 4 & 7 10 hours and 4&6 8 hours

front

Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue

Sweet, Thank alot.
This thread should be voted for thread of the year!!!!!

[TropTrea]

What I find interesting is a lot of Blue Plus Bulbs, and the Aquasun and GE 5400K never are used.:confused: :confused: :confused:

Dennis

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9860816#post9860816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Try this, you can do a 3 stage lighting scheme. Do rows 2&6 12 hours as dusk, dawn. Rows 1, 4 & 7 10 hours and 4&6 8 hours

front

Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue :confused: :confused: :confused:

[The Grim Reefer]

Typo, 8 hours for lamps 3&5. Anyone who knows how the Constellation is wired would figure it out :D

[TropTrea]

Yes but when they wired up the constellation didn't they use some super powerful high voltage light bulbs? :blown: :celeb1: :blown: :celeb1:


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9869106#post9869106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Typo, 8 hours for lamps 3&5. Anyone who knows how the Constellation is wired would figure it out :D

[vvolfe1]

Well I just ordered Ice cap reflectors and new lamps for a ice cap 660.
2 blue plus
1 ati aqua blue
1 Geisman midday

I was wondering will this be enough for a lps/ zoo domminant 90 aga tank with a few sps on top? Or should I get 2 more lamps? Another thing is it possible to switch 2 of the lamps off with the 660, or will all 4 have to run at once?

[The Grim Reefer]

You wouldn't "need" 2 more lamps but it would allow you to have dusk/dawn and the use of more lamps. If you do it I would add 2 UVL super actinics. I would use a standard T5 ballast and run a blue plus and super actinic on the 2 lamp dusk/dawn pair.

[Marcio]

Hi there!

I've bought a new tank, its 120x60x50cm. I'll keep SPSs and clams. What should be a good T5 setup for my tank? How often do i have to change the T5 lamps?

thanks.

[Bunkerbean]

Grim Reefer,

I was told you were the T5 guru. So I need lighting help. I have never had a reef tank, always FO, so I am looking for help on what to get.

Since this is my first reef tank I won't be going to difficult for a while. I thought about some LPS, mushrooms, and maybe a SPS.

Tank dimensions are 72x18x24 I believe.

Can you help?

[The Grim Reefer]

You will want as many lamps as you can fit over the tank. Should change them out at a year or so.

[the3kgt2]

Hey guys. I have a quick question that I kinda need answered quickly. My light fixture just blew and I need to order a replacement ASAP overnight.

My question:

What would be better:
36" Nova Extreme T-5 156 watt for $189
or
36" Satellite Compact Fluorescent 192 watt for $165

I had the compact fluorescent fixture...which just fried. Does the T-5 156 watt have more lumens than the 192 watt compact fluorescent?

Thanks in advance!

[The Grim Reefer]

Yes

[Bunkerbean]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9872068#post9872068 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
You will want as many lamps as you can fit over the tank. Should change them out at a year or so.

Where is the best, cheapest place to buy T5 lighting. Any particular brand?

[Bunkerbean]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9872068#post9872068 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
You will want as many lamps as you can fit over the tank. Should change them out at a year or so.

Where is the best, cheapest place to buy T5 lighting. Any particular brand?

[The Grim Reefer]

Reefgeek tends to have the best pricing on the good stuff

[nebraskareef]

I only have enough fun time cash this time around to order a 3 bulb retro for my 36x18x18 50g tank. I would like it to be similar to a 14k bulb. I was thinking....

1 actinic plus
1 blue plus
1 11k bulb (forgot the name)

IC SLR reflectors. I will run them off my 660. I plan to order 2 more bulbs in a few weeks. I will run them with a wh-5 or a triad ballast.

What bulbs should I get initially?

Thanks

[Bunkerbean]

Should I just get Actinic and 10k? I know you said as many that can fit, but is there a minimum?

[The Grim Reefer]

For 3 lamps get a UVL Super Actinic, Aquablue 11K, Blue Plus. That will be a little blue for a 14K but will be about as close as you'll get with 3 lamps. when you add 2 more get another Blue Plus and a UVL Aquasun. That will get you a nice slightly blue look.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9874911#post9874911 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nebraskareef
I only have enough fun time cash this time around to order a 3 bulb retro for my 36x18x18 50g tank. I would like it to be similar to a 14k bulb. I was thinking....

1 actinic plus
1 blue plus
1 11k bulb (forgot the name)

IC SLR reflectors. I will run them off my 660. I plan to order 2 more bulbs in a few weeks. I will run them with a wh-5 or a triad ballast.

What bulbs should I get initially?

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9874959#post9874959 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bunkerbean
Should I just get Actinic and 10k? I know you said as many that can fit, but is there a minimum?

Your post got caught between my response to a different question.

On your tank you would want to run 4 of the 80 watt lamps, reefgeek sells them. I would get 1 Pure Actinic, 1 Midday and 2 Blue Plus.

[Marcio]

Thanks Grim!

Would the actinic lamps help just stetically or they also work "as the white ones"? My tank size fits 8 x 54W reflectors and i'm wondering if i should use 5 white or just 4 whites and the rest of actinics. And about the overdrive, can i use 80W ballast in some of these lamps?

Thanks in advance.

[The Grim Reefer]

Actinics add a little bit of PAR but not much. The Blue Lamps (Blue Plus, Actinic Plus) do about as much as any.

[energy_crisis]

Hi, I am going to run two 250MH 10K. I have a 660 ballast and want to run 4 more 24" bulbs to get a crisp blue look.

Which individual reflector and bulbs do you guys recoment. The T5 is for supplement mainly but I don't want the look of a 20K MH lit tank.

TIA.

[Marcio]

Grim, thats what i have available here in Brasil. Is it a goog choice?

http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/990021.jpg
http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/grafico22k.jpg

Thanks again!

[Marcio]

http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/990018.jpg
http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/grafico15k.jpg


http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/990082.jpg

[Bunkerbean]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9876239#post9876239 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Your post got caught between my response to a different question.

On your tank you would want to run 4 of the 80 watt lamps, reefgeek sells them. I would get 1 Pure Actinic, 1 Midday and 2 Blue Plus.

Thanks I appreciate it.

[LNell]

I just bought an IceCap 660, and I'm wondering if I can overdrive four 54w bulbs on it?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9877585#post9877585 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by energy_crisis
Hi, I am going to run two 250MH 10K. I have a 660 ballast and want to run 4 more 24" bulbs to get a crisp blue look.

Which individual reflector and bulbs do you guys recoment. The T5 is for supplement mainly but I don't want the look of a 20K MH lit tank.

TIA.

Try a couple Blue Plus and 2 UVL Super Actinics. Ice Cap reflectors are best.

[The Grim Reefer]

They aren't bad. I preffer ATI but the Aquascience, Giesemann and UVL's are good too.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9877685#post9877685 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marcio
Grim, thats what i have available here in Brasil. Is it a goog choice?

http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/990021.jpg
http://www.ciashop.com.br/ciadoaquario/Assets/product_images/zoom/grafico22k.jpg

Thanks again!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9879524#post9879524 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LNell
I just bought an IceCap 660, and I'm wondering if I can overdrive four 54w bulbs on it?

all but the 80 watt lamps, only 3 of those.

[Marcio]

Thanks Grim! and this aquascience 22000K lamps are actinic, blue plus or actinic plus?

[evoracer]

I know there is a thread floating around with a link to rewiring PC ballasts for T5's, but I can't seem to find it. Anyone help a brother out?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9879897#post9879897 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marcio
Thanks Grim! and this aquascience 22000K lamps are actinic, blue plus or actinic plus?

The 22000K, Actinic Plus and Blue Plus are all blue lamps in the 440~460nm range.

[chinzman93]

Hi,

I am setting up my first reef tank (will be a 90 gallon LPS) and have decided purchase TekLight 48" 6 x 54w fixture. Does anyone have thoughts on bulb combinations for this?

Thanks,
Clay

[The Grim Reefer]

Use 1 or 2 Super Actinics, 3 Blue Plus, 1 UVL Aquasun or a Giesemann Midday and maybe a GE 6500K Daylight.

[Marcio]

Thanks Grim!

And do these aquascience 22.000K have a good PAR?

Sorry for so much questions. I actually aprecciate u help, i'ts helping a lot!!!!!!

[The Grim Reefer]

They are pretty good PAR wise, alll the blue T5 lamps are.

[revclyburn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9822232#post9822232 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Super actinic, Aquasun, Aquablue or GE daylight and 3 blue plus.

Hey Grim,

are these ULV, GE, ATI or a combo of all 3

[skey44]

I'm looking into a 72x30x30 mixed reef system and would like to only do T5 retros. I plan to only keep softies and maybe a few LPS, but no SPS or clams. I'm leaning towards Ice Cap retros, but am not sure of the configuration.

What would you recommend?

Thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9882409#post9882409 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by revclyburn
Hey Grim,

are these ULV, GE, ATI or a combo of all 3

Super Actinic, Aquasun and either a GE or an Aquablue

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9882862#post9882862 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by skey44
I'm looking into a 72x30x30 mixed reef system and would like to only do T5 retros. I plan to only keep softies and maybe a few LPS, but no SPS or clams. I'm leaning towards Ice Cap retros, but am not sure of the configuration.

What would you recommend?

Thanks.

Do a 6 lamp 80 watt retro. reefgeek has them. Try to get the Tek II reflectors of possible

[skey44]

thanks

[kgerbus]

I am setting up a 72" 150g mixed reef. Is the Aquactinics Constellation T5 72" a good choice? Is it a quality fixture? Also with 14 bullbs what kind of lamp mix would you do?

[The Grim Reefer]

The constellation would be fine. Use two of each of the following lamps to fill a row

Front

Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
GE 6500K Daylight
Blue Plus
Aquablue

[r2odie]

Has anyone tried these lights, any opinions, seems like a good deal, what do you guys think???


48'' Aquarium Light T5 Hood 8X 54 brand new Reef

price: US $299.99 Buy It Now >

Shipping costs: US $41.25
Seller: lizardcity( 676)
Feedback: 99.3% Positive
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Brand New 8 X 54 watt T5 HO Light
with 8 Brand new Aquablue or sunlight bulbs included! - Includes 4 aquablue and 4 sun bulbs - we also have 6500k bulbs in stock - if you would like a different mix of bulbs specify in your payment and you will receive.

Each bulb has its own individual parabolic reflector to improve lights output by 300%



This unit is Amazing! Plug and Play ready to go upon arrival!

The reflector is made of german polished aluminum.

Fixture has a 5 year warranty on ballast, and full replace rebuild warranty for 1 year on entire fixture.

Unit is Made in United States

T5 lights with individual reflectors makes beautiful shimmer effect happen in your aqarium.

Unit has 2 chords and 2 switches - that are reccomended to be put on timers so you can have a dawn dusk effect in your tank. Have the blue actinics come on in the morning for a nice dawn effect - then have the suns come in during the day for a bright sun light look.

moonlights can be added for an additional $39.99 - moonlights can be purchased in our ebay store.



If moonlights are ordered they will be installed directly into the fixture with their own chord and their own dimmable switch- so you can make them as dim or as bright as you would like.

Unit is 47.5'' long and 11.5'' wide and 1'' thick.

Comes with 5 year warranty workhorse ballast -

Unit is plug and play ready to go upon arrival

12 foot long, heavy duty power chords are included

Unit is made in the United States with 5 year warranty.

[The Grim Reefer]

Based on that discription I wouldn't touch them. #1, aint no way you have parabolic reflectors for 8 lamps in a 11" wide unit. You would be better off getting the 5 lamp Aquactinics unit, more light and less power usage.

[kgerbus]

Thanks for the advice. Are there any coral that will not do well under this set up?

[hahnmeister]

Thought I would post this link here in case anyone is interested...
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1112777&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

I did a full comparison of the new Tek2 to the Icecap SLR... SLR is still the champ it seems (until ATI figures out a way to make a retrofit reflector from those powermodule ones...lol). Of course, if someone were to send me a 4' aquatinics... maybe the SLR wouldnt do so well.

[tricky]

Im adding a frag tank that will tie into the sump of my display system. I will be using a 30G breeder tank, 36" x 18" x 36". I plan on placing 6 39W T-5s with SPS reflectors using 2 workhorse ballasts. By tagging into my existing system, I will get a nice grow out system without maintaining another complete system, skimmer, chiller, calcium, etc. The primary goal is to be able to color up sps, growth is secndary but still a priority.

What color spectrum would you recommnd?

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

I would do 2 Aquasuns and 4 Blue Plus.

[tricky]

Thanks for the quick reply.
Are you referring to the Aquasun by UV LIghting and the Blue Plus by ATI?
I was surprised you didn't recommend any actinics, but I am guessing this combination must be strong in the longer wavelengths as compared to MH/VHO combinations.
I find it very confusing to compare the many color names that are out there.

BTW, a while back you recommended me to use 3 Aqua Blue Plus
T-5s on a softie tank, and I love the color..

Thanks a bunch

[Shade00]

IMHO, actinics should be used sparingly... their PAR is relatively low.

[tricky]

Oops, I meant 36"x18"x12" on the tank size. It 6 lights overkill?

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9838420#post9838420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
For 6 lamps I would do this,

Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
Aquasun
GE 6500K or ATI Aquablue for a more blue look
Blue Plus
Aquablue

Do you have any pics of the coloration this combo gives?

Thanks

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9838420#post9838420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
For 6 lamps I would do this,

Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
Aquasun
GE 6500K or ATI Aquablue for a more blue look
Blue Plus
Aquablue

Do you have any pics of the coloration this combo gives?

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

No, I don't even attempt pics because it is soo hard to get an accuarate pic with my camera.

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9894509#post9894509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
No, I don't even attempt pics because it is soo hard to get an accuarate pic with my camera.

No problem. Does this color combination lean more towards the "blue" side?

[here4g2]

I have been looking into the Aquactinics constellation 72" fixture.So far i have only been able to find one place online that sells it,that being premium Aquatics.Anyone know any other places that sell it.I want to just compare some pricing.
Thanks for any help.

PS AWESOME THREAD
Thanks to all who have contributed.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9896234#post9896234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
No problem. Does this color combination lean more towards the "blue" side?

It will have a bluish tint but nothing like you would expect going by the name of the lamps.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9896965#post9896965 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by here4g2
I have been looking into the Aquactinics constellation 72" fixture.So far i have only been able to find one place online that sells it,that being premium Aquatics.Anyone know any other places that sell it.I want to just compare some pricing.
Thanks for any help.

PS AWESOME THREAD
Thanks to all who have contributed.

Aquarium Specialty from the sponsors page sells them.

[Rich_Lucas]

I'm sure my answer is already in this thread but it's really to long to go thru the whole thing. I have a tank that is approximately 72" long x 18" wide x 20" deep and am looking to keep mostly softies with some sps and maybe a clam or 2 eventually. Can you recommend some components I could use for a retro install? I've looked somewhat at the icecap ballasts and just from the little I've read the icecap reflectors seem to be the best but not sure. Does the T5 lights have an advantage over VHO or is there much of a difference?

[The Grim Reefer]

T5 have a huge advantage over VHO. A 6x80 watt refrokit would be fine for what you want to do. reefgeek is the only one I know with the 80 wat retros.

[Kirk_M]

Grim,

I have been using T5s for over a year now, in an 8 bulb TEK light. I am very pleased with the performance and growth I get, but, I have one glaring problem with T5s. Any EMERALD green coral that I bring into my tank either fades or goes to greenish brown. I FINALLY found an awesome deep emerald green monti cap with purple growth rim, as a captive raised frag from my LFS display tank, only to have it start shifting towards an olive drab coloration, just like all the other deep green corals I started out with. Everything else responds favorably to the lighting. I use the following combination (don't know the order): 1 GE 6500K, 1 ATI Aquablue Special, two UVL super actinics, four ATI BluePlus. I like the color that the tank takes on from this combo -- slight tinge of blue, but not too much. The SPS grow like mad, even down on the sandbed, and hold their colors, as do the clams. I have a 4 foot fixture (54 watt bulbs). The corals were either from VHO lit tanks (and look the same in my tank initially for the first few weeks), or from 10-14K halide/VHO combination lit tanks. All of my water parameters are excellent, no phosphates detectable with a D&D Merck phosphate kit AND via a friend's high end Milwaukee "Martini" colorimetric phophate tester, 0 nitrates, 410 Ca, 10dKH, so, my thoughts are it has to be the lighting. Can you recommend any changes in the lineup that may make these deep greens hold their colors and "pop" again?

[The Grim Reefer]

Add a GE 3000K lamp to the mix and see what happens. The change pink and purple colors up, might work for your greens too.

[Kirk_M]

Add it in place of what bulb?

[Rich_Lucas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9897201#post9897201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
T5 have a huge advantage over VHO. A 6x80 watt refrokit would be fine for what you want to do. reefgeek is the only one I know with the 80 wat retros.

Hmm, I don't see any 6x80 watt retro kits on there unless I'm missing something?

Edit: spoke to soon, found them on there. Is the Tek 2 reflectors better than the icecap ones then?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9897391#post9897391 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kirk_M
Add it in place of what bulb?

The 6500K to start with.

[Rich_Lucas]

Also I notice those are 60" bulbs, is there a need to stagger them or will that sufficiently light the whole length of the tank?

[The Grim Reefer]

You dont really have to stagger them. You might notice the uper edges of the tank are a little darker than the rest. Just use the end 6 inches or so on each side for low light critters.

[xenon]

I have read so many pages without finding the info I am looking for and I am really sorry if this is a repeated question.

I currently have a AGA 90G (48" wide X 18" deep X 24" tall) with Coralife Aqualight Pro 2x150w 14k MH bulbs, 2x96w true acinic. I am not very happy with SPS colors and I would like to try the Tek fixture by "Sunlight Supply" with 6x54w T5.

Would you say the T5 fixture is better than my Coralife and worth the trouble to replace? If so I really need help with bulb choices and what order they should go from front to back.

Would the Fauna Marin UltraSolaris 6x80w be worth the extra expense over the tek?

Thanks so much and I have HUGE respect for you to keep a thread like this alive for sooooo long. :D

[SHAWNLX86]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9896965#post9896965 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by here4g2
I have been looking into the Aquactinics constellation 72" fixture.So far i have only been able to find one place online that sells it,that being premium Aquatics.Anyone know any other places that sell it.I want to just compare some pricing.
Thanks for any help.

PS AWESOME THREAD
Thanks to all who have contributed.

I would check out their website, there is an online dealer section. The lowest price I saw was $685, but I think one of those sites offers free shipping, where the others will probably be $30 or so. I bought my lighting fixure locally as the company is in CT and it is a great light, extremely bright. Fans do make some noise but it runs very cool. With a glass top on my tank, my water only heats up 1 degree running the lights for 12hrs, try that with MH. Good luck!!

[xenon]

bump.

I have money in hand and in desperate need of good advice!! :D

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9898036#post9898036 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xenon
I have read so many pages without finding the info I am looking for and I am really sorry if this is a repeated question.

I currently have a AGA 90G (48" wide X 18" deep X 24" tall) with Coralife Aqualight Pro 2x150w 14k MH bulbs, 2x96w true acinic. I am not very happy with SPS colors and I would like to try the Tek fixture by "Sunlight Supply" with 6x54w T5.

Would you say the T5 fixture is better than my Coralife and worth the trouble to replace? If so I really need help with bulb choices and what order they should go from front to back.

Would the Fauna Marin UltraSolaris 6x80w be worth the extra expense over the tek?

Thanks so much and I have HUGE respect for you to keep a thread like this alive for sooooo long. :D

The Tek would likely be an improvement over the Coralife. You would be better off stepping up to the Solar Flare T5 unit Premium Aquatics and Aquarium Specialties from the sponsors page sells. If you have a canopy the Fauna Marin is an option but its not a stand alone fixture.

For lamps try this

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
GE 3000K or UVL Aquasun
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue

[bladze]

I have 92gal corner tank. I am thinking of 400W MH but I really want T5. It would be a challenge. Have anyone done it before?

[xenon]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9905860#post9905860 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
The Tek would likely be an improvement over the Coralife. You would be better off stepping up to the Solar Flare T5 unit Premium Aquatics and Aquarium Specialties from the sponsors page sells. If you have a canopy the Fauna Marin is an option but its not a stand alone fixture.

For lamps try this

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
GE 3000K or UVL Aquasun
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue

Thanks so much bro!!! Keep up the good work.

I will be posting my "before" and "after" pics of the Coralife Aqualight Pro .VS Solar Flare with those exact bulbs. :D

[TropTrea]

Off hand I'm not 100% sure of the dimensions of the 92 corner. However if you have some woodworking skills it should not be real difficult.

As I would do it would be to put the MH bulb in the back corner then start linning up the T-5's in front of it . If I recall correctly you would probably have just enough room for a pair of 48" bulbs and a pair of 36" bulbs. But please measure out everything before hand and put your bulb placement on a blueprint so you don't short yourself space. You might have room for more T-5's or you might have to go with 36" and 24" bulbs?


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9905914#post9905914 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bladze
I have 92gal corner tank. I am thinking of 400W MH but I really want T5. It would be a challenge. Have anyone done it before?

[r2odie]

how do these lights look, thinking two of them for my 8 ft. 240.
if they look ok, what bulb choices should i go with? thanks!!


http://www.specialty-lights.com/960045.html

[jamesdawson]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9907507#post9907507 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r2odie
how do these lights look, thinking two of them for my 8 ft. 240.
if they look ok, what bulb choices should i go with? thanks!!


http://www.specialty-lights.com/960045.html

Those are TekLights.

They are not actively cooled and if you get any of the inevitable splash/spray on the reflectors they will be forever stained and compromised. If you put a splash shield on them your bulbs get cooked because there is no active cooling. PAR is very mediocre on these fixtures and customer service/warranty support by the manufacturer is also mediocre at best.

You would be better off buying quality the first time. I suggest either Solar Flares for the ultimate in PAR plus moonlights built-in or the ATI PowerModule or SunPower (excellently priced at roughly the same price as the TekLight) that ReefGeek is going to have (hopefully) soon. Other options include the Fauna Marin UltraSolaris that Aquarium Obsessed imports or an Aquatinics T5 fixture. All these fixtures have active cooling and produce much better PAR than the Tek. They are also made by quality companies that stand by what they make if there's a problem.

Good luck,

James

[The Grim Reefer]

What ^^^ Said.

[Rich_Lucas]

Does the spray/splash comment apply to any reflectors?

[The Grim Reefer]

Yes, if the lights are closer than about 4" to the water you need to be careful about salt spray.

[r2odie]

You would be better off buying quality the first time. I suggest either Solar Flares for the ultimate in PAR plus moonlights built-in or the ATI PowerModule or SunPower (excellently priced at roughly the same price as the TekLight) that ReefGeek is going to have (hopefully) soon. Other options include the Fauna Marin UltraSolaris that Aquarium Obsessed imports or an Aquatinics T5 fixture. All these fixtures have active cooling and produce much better PAR than the Tek. They are also made by quality companies that stand by what they make if there's a problem.

Solar Flares seem to be 799. everywhere, anyone know anywhere they are less?
Can't find the ATI PowerModule or SunPower anywhere. checked reefgeek with no luck. any ideas??

[The Grim Reefer]

The ATI's are held up while they produce 110v versions. If you aren't in a hurry reefgeek will have them at some point.

[r2odie]

Is $799.00, plus shipping on top for the 4' Solar Flare about the best price out there? I don't want to wait an indefinite amount of time for availability on the ATI's , as the lights will be the only thing holding me up from setting up my 240. It's my understanding that the SF are over-driven to 80 watts, if that is correct, how does that effect lamp life? I will be using these on a 8' tank 24" deep, any thoughts on sps health. Thoughts please, and thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

With normally driven T5's you can push the lamps 18 months or so. Overdriven 54 watt lamps you would probably want to change a little sooner, maybe 14 months.

Your only other choice right now would be the 4 foot Aquactinics constellation, you would have to contact Aquactinics and see where they are with production of that unit, they currently have a 6 foot version and I am not sure if the 4 footer is out yet or not. That is a 7 lamp normally driven fixture with active cooling and reflectors that are as good or slightly better than the Ice Caps.

[allykahn]

Grim,
I finally switched from 4 vhos to T5s with IC reflectors. You suggested the following setup:

Front
Blue Plus (660)
VHO Actinic (430)
GE Daylight (660)
Aqua Blue (660)
Blue Plus

In my haste, I did not add the last Blue Plus as I wanted to see how it would look with just the 3 T5s. It's ok...nothing to talk about but definitely brighter. Will adding the last Blue Plus make much of a difference?

I was also thinking of doing the following:

Use the IC 430 for 2 T5s, and a workhorse ballast for the single vho actinic so I would have a six bulb configuration. Will this be ok? Should I switch any of the bulbs for UVLs?

How would I then configure the bulbs for a mixed reef with mostly LPS?
I ask because the canopy is 6' long and I have a hard time getting help to get it off and put it back on, so I want to do this in one shot if I can.

Thanks

[KafudaFish]

First off thanks for all of the information over time. You guys helped me about a year ago and need help again please.
I have a 95 gal 48"x24"x17" zoa mostly tank.
Canopy with 2 adjustable fans, 4 x 54 watt T5 Tek retro kit with IC reflectors from reefgeek. Blubs are aquablue+, actinic+, aquablue+, actinic+ front to back.
I get great color but am trying to improve growth.
Any recommendations? I also have a Giesseman 6000K bulb that is unused.
Should I change bulbs or add another 2 x 54 kit? If so which? I cannot replace my entire set up though.
Thanks again.

[r2odie]

Ok, if I go with two 48" 7 bulb constellation units for my 8 ft. 240, which bulbs would you suggest, the choices are:

Giesemann
54W T5 Actinic Plus Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb 48inch
54W T5 Aquablue Plus 11K Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb
54W T5 Midday 6000K Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb 48inch
54W T5 Pure Actinic Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb 48inch

ATI
54W 12000K ATI Aquablue Special T5HO
54W ATI Blue Plus T5HO


UVL
54W URI Actinic White 12000k
54W URI Aquasun 10,000k
54W URI Super Actinic 420nm

GE
54W 6500K GE Starcoat Daylight T5 HO 48inch

Thank you!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9914276#post9914276 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by allykahn
Grim,
I finally switched from 4 vhos to T5s with IC reflectors. You suggested the following setup:

Front
Blue Plus (660)
VHO Actinic (430)
GE Daylight (660)
Aqua Blue (660)
Blue Plus

In my haste, I did not add the last Blue Plus as I wanted to see how it would look with just the 3 T5s. It's ok...nothing to talk about but definitely brighter. Will adding the last Blue Plus make much of a difference?

I was also thinking of doing the following:

Use the IC 430 for 2 T5s, and a workhorse ballast for the single vho actinic so I would have a six bulb configuration. Will this be ok? Should I switch any of the bulbs for UVLs?

How would I then configure the bulbs for a mixed reef with mostly LPS?
I ask because the canopy is 6' long and I have a hard time getting help to get it off and put it back on, so I want to do this in one shot if I can.

Thanks

I would add the Blue Plus. You could just try adding a blue plus in place of the Aquablue to get an idea of the look but I would get a fourth T5 in there for sure.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9914429#post9914429 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KafudaFish
First off thanks for all of the information over time. You guys helped me about a year ago and need help again please.
I have a 95 gal 48"x24"x17" zoa mostly tank.
Canopy with 2 adjustable fans, 4 x 54 watt T5 Tek retro kit with IC reflectors from reefgeek. Blubs are aquablue+, actinic+, aquablue+, actinic+ front to back.
I get great color but am trying to improve growth.
Any recommendations? I also have a Giesseman 6000K bulb that is unused.
Should I change bulbs or add another 2 x 54 kit? If so which? I cannot replace my entire set up though.
Thanks again.

Try the 6000K in place of a Aquablue.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9914700#post9914700 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r2odie
Ok, if I go with two 48" 7 bulb constellation units for my 8 ft. 240, which bulbs would you suggest, the choices are:

Giesemann
54W T5 Actinic Plus Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb 48inch
54W T5 Aquablue Plus 11K Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb
54W T5 Midday 6000K Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb 48inch
54W T5 Pure Actinic Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb 48inch

ATI
54W 12000K ATI Aquablue Special T5HO
54W ATI Blue Plus T5HO


UVL
54W URI Actinic White 12000k
54W URI Aquasun 10,000k
54W URI Super Actinic 420nm

GE
54W 6500K GE Starcoat Daylight T5 HO 48inch

Thank you!

Try this for a start

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun or GE 300K (reefgeek has them)
Blue Plus
GE 6500K Daylight
Blue Plus
Aquablue

[KafudaFish]

Grim,
Thanks. I figured that I would try that first since it was the easiest and cheapest.

[djtodd]

OK, the summer is now upon us and heat issues are becoming a reality. I currently have 2x 250W Coralvue 14K (colour is nearly 20K) MH bulbs supplemented by 4 39W T5 ATI Blue+ bulbs on a 6' tank.

I'm thinking of removing the MH bulbs and replacing them with more T5s. I am only lighting softies and LPS. I have 12" of front to back space to add the new bulbs. According to my math, I should be able to add another 3 "strips" (6 bulbs) with space to spare for a grand total of 5 "strips" lighting the entire length of the tank.

Is 5 enough on a 24" deep tank?

So, I have (Front to Back)

Blue+
-blank-
-blank-
-blank-
Blue+

What should I add in the middle? My goal is for Blue-er than a 14K Hamilton, but whiter than a 20K XM.

Thanks in advance!

[The Grim Reefer]

With 12" of available space you should be able to add 4 more lamps for a total of 6.

Try this

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
GE 6500K or UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Blue Plus

[kirkbjerk]

Well awhile back looked at lighting a 55g. Things have changed and now have a 75 gallon. Looking at lights I see some new(?) offers from Reefgeek for 4X54W T5 HO but they also have T5 VHO? What is the extra money really buying me between VHO and HO? Is it really a big difference?

Also Icecap and Tek 2 are the same amount. Which would be a better choice for retro? And finally could someone suggest a bulb layout or will it be the same as suggested for my 55g?

Thanks for the help!

-David

[r2odie]

Thanks Grim and Jamesdawson for your responses and help. I wish that there was one dffinative winner in the bunch, but it seems like we are going to go with the Constallations, as they seem more readily available. I hope that will be enough light for SPS corals. We will use the bulbs suggested by Grim, thanks for the help, You guys are great.

[r2odie]

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9918077#post9918077 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kirkbjerk
Well awhile back looked at lighting a 55g. Things have changed and now have a 75 gallon. Looking at lights I see some new(?) offers from Reefgeek for 4X54W T5 HO but they also have T5 VHO? What is the extra money really buying me between VHO and HO? Is it really a big difference?

Also Icecap and Tek 2 are the same amount. Which would be a better choice for retro? And finally could someone suggest a bulb layout or will it be the same as suggested for my 55g?

Thanks for the help!

-David

Don't waste your money on the Tek II reflectors, too big and still don't beat the Ice Caps. They would probably be good for supplimenting halides but the unfocused light spread they produce does nothing to help penetration.

4 lamp overdriven system or a 6 lamp Tek retro upgraded to Ice Cap reflectors. The overdriven Ice Cap system is what they are refering to a VHO. As far as I know there isn't a true T5 VHO other than UVL's which were only really designed to withstand overdriving.

[IPT]

Soooo many options!! Yikes. I have seen tons of combo's for the popular Tek 4 and 8 bulb setups and even some 7 bulb setups. What would the recomendation be for the Aquatinics 5 bulb light(36" unit on a 50 breeder)? I like the white with a hint of blue look. Though the 20K look seems to really pop colors. I am imagining a BIG change as I am upgrading from PC's. I would like good growth and color of SPS acro's and others, also a clam or two. Maybe a few zoo's and shrooms on the bottom or shaded areas. I would like an option or two (willing to buy a few extra bulbs) to experiment with. Right now my Tri-color and blue Acro look flat and colorless but I knew they would under the PC's. Shoot away! Love to hear from people with the Aquatinics fixture too - what are you using?

[IPT]

An idea, wish I had the knowledge and I'd do it (but I don't :(. Seems like a spreadsheet top heading of like 10K, 14K, 20k look and under it a list of bulb combos by various manufactures would be an awesome reference. Just and idea...I'd make the sheet if someone had the info. It'd save a lot of surfing time.

[noplis18]

help me pick out my new lighting please i dont know which one to get....

i have a 37 gallon SW tank, live rock, want to get softies, shrooms, polyps, ect....

i was thinking of getting the hamilton technology retrofit kit that brings 4 x 24 watt HO T5
http://www.hamiltontechnology.com/s...O+Retrofit+Kits

or

i was looking at the ready tek kit from sunlight supply they bring
2 x 24 watt HO T5 but i was thinking of getting two of them.
http://as.starware.com/dp/search?x=...8kf1A4+teEtPzQ=


i did the measurements and the hamilton is only a inch bigger and it is one peace rather then two different pieces if i get the sunlight supply. i have the space in my canopy but i will have to drill some holes for fans.

[Dyngoe]

Hi Grim and Crew,

I'm scouring this thread for help and in the meantime I thought I'd post my other topic here (a little reworded):

Hi All,

I'm going crazy trying to make the best decison for my lighting. I have a 46G bowfront with primarily LPS/softies. I do have some green slimer, Monti's on the side and another acro SPS ~5" under the surface. My current lighting is 350W 10K Mogul MH (BAD REFLECTOR) and 65W PC actinic. My wife requires me to have a canopy, so I'm looking to change my lighting to T5.

<u>Here are some of my problems/concerns:</u>
1. Too much light? My Hammer corals and open brain were showing signs of light stress. I move the brain to my frag tank and it's back to life.
2. Heat! I have 6 fans blowing air across my tank and evaporating 1.5-2 gal/day. A lot for 46 G tank
3. Horizontal Space! With the bowfront I only have ~10" (more like 9.5") of space before the glass curves. The canopy doesn't have a "door" so I need the front space for feedings.

Here are my UPDATED thoughts:
1. 2x60w URI T5 w/ icecap 660 and SLR -Mid day lights
2x39W T5 on IC 660 SLR - One actinic dawn/dusk/all day and one 12K daylight

2. 2x60w URI T5 w/icecap 660 and SLR - Mid Day
1x39w T5 and 1 95w VHO IC 660 and SLR(T5) - VHO actinic and 1 12K for dawn/dusk/all day

The final option which I think I'm shying away from is:
3. 2xPFO mini pedants with 20K 150w XM DE MH

Now here's the questions:

1. Which of these sounds the best knowing my issues. I'll say I think the 20K bulb will make my hammer and brain happier right off the bat.
2. Which of these would produce the nice blue tint light I am missing with 10K? Any way to "fake" the MH shimmer with T5s?
3. Would I have enough light to put a clam in in the future?
4. Will I actually produce less heat with the T5 setup?
5. Are IC ballasts necessary? Price is not a consideration, just what's best for my tank.
6. I'll assume the all T5 will be the one everyone suugests. So, with that in mind, what bulbs will make the best blue/growth ballance?

I know there is a lot to digest here. But, please help! My tank is currently running off my 2x96W PC light and my finger is on the check-out button at hellolights and reefgeek.

[bluetang_2000]

Grim,

What do you think is a good setup for a 75gal tank? 4-T5 or 6-T5. This tank will be sps only.

Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

More Blue
Front
Blue Plus
ATI Aquablue
UVL Super Actinic
GE 6500K Daylight
Blue Plus

Less Blue
Front
Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
UVL Super Actinic
GE 6500K Daylight
Blue Plus



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9923678#post9923678 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IPT
Soooo many options!! Yikes. I have seen tons of combo's for the popular Tek 4 and 8 bulb setups and even some 7 bulb setups. What would the recomendation be for the Aquatinics 5 bulb light(36" unit on a 50 breeder)? I like the white with a hint of blue look. Though the 20K look seems to really pop colors. I am imagining a BIG change as I am upgrading from PC's. I would like good growth and color of SPS acro's and others, also a clam or two. Maybe a few zoo's and shrooms on the bottom or shaded areas. I would like an option or two (willing to buy a few extra bulbs) to experiment with. Right now my Tri-color and blue Acro look flat and colorless but I knew they would under the PC's. Shoot away! Love to hear from people with the Aquatinics fixture too - what are you using?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9923727#post9923727 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IPT
An idea, wish I had the knowledge and I'd do it (but I don't :(. Seems like a spreadsheet top heading of like 10K, 14K, 20k look and under it a list of bulb combos by various manufactures would be an awesome reference. Just and idea...I'd make the sheet if someone had the info. It'd save a lot of surfing time.

Problem is you get different opinions on what a 10K, 14K and 20K halide looks like.

[The Grim Reefer]

Get a 4 lamp Tek retro from reefgeek upgraded to Ice Cap reflectors, you shouldn't need to overdrive the lamps on a tank less than 24" tall.

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
6500K GE or Giesemann Midday
Blue Plus.

That should pop colors and give you good growth.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9923788#post9923788 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dyngoe
Hi Grim and Crew,

I'm scouring this thread for help and in the meantime I thought I'd post my other topic here (a little reworded):

Hi All,

I'm going crazy trying to make the best decison for my lighting. I have a 46G bowfront with primarily LPS/softies. I do have some green slimer, Monti's on the side and another acro SPS ~5" under the surface. My current lighting is 350W 10K Mogul MH (BAD REFLECTOR) and 65W PC actinic. My wife requires me to have a canopy, so I'm looking to change my lighting to T5.

<u>Here are some of my problems/concerns:</u>
1. Too much light? My Hammer corals and open brain were showing signs of light stress. I move the brain to my frag tank and it's back to life.
2. Heat! I have 6 fans blowing air across my tank and evaporating 1.5-2 gal/day. A lot for 46 G tank
3. Horizontal Space! With the bowfront I only have ~10" (more like 9.5") of space before the glass curves. The canopy doesn't have a "door" so I need the front space for feedings.

Here are my UPDATED thoughts:
1. 2x60w URI T5 w/ icecap 660 and SLR -Mid day lights
2x39W T5 on IC 660 SLR - One actinic dawn/dusk/all day and one 12K daylight

2. 2x60w URI T5 w/icecap 660 and SLR - Mid Day
1x39w T5 and 1 95w VHO IC 660 and SLR(T5) - VHO actinic and 1 12K for dawn/dusk/all day

The final option which I think I'm shying away from is:
3. 2xPFO mini pedants with 20K 150w XM DE MH

Now here's the questions:

1. Which of these sounds the best knowing my issues. I'll say I think the 20K bulb will make my hammer and brain happier right off the bat.
2. Which of these would produce the nice blue tint light I am missing with 10K? Any way to "fake" the MH shimmer with T5s?
3. Would I have enough light to put a clam in in the future?
4. Will I actually produce less heat with the T5 setup?
5. Are IC ballasts necessary? Price is not a consideration, just what's best for my tank.
6. I'll assume the all T5 will be the one everyone suugests. So, with that in mind, what bulbs will make the best blue/growth ballance?

I know there is a lot to digest here. But, please help! My tank is currently running off my 2x96W PC light and my finger is on the check-out button at hellolights and reefgeek.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9924078#post9924078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryguan
Grim,

What do you think is a good setup for a 75gal tank? 4-T5 or 6-T5. This tank will be sps only.

Thanks

6 lamp setup with Ice Cap reflectors. Might even think about overdriving a couple of the lamps with an Ice Cap ballast.

[Dyngoe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9924197#post9924197 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Get a 4 lamp Tek retro from reefgeek upgraded to Ice Cap reflectors, you shouldn't need to overdrive the lamps on a tank less than 24" tall.

Front
Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
6500K GE or Giesemann Midday
Blue Plus.

That should pop colors and give you good growth.

Hi Grim,

Thanks for the QUICK clarification. I have just two follow-ups if you're around:

1. Will the IC ballast help with growth/coloring at shallow depths? I may have a line on a cheap 430 so I thought I might use it for the day/noon setup.

2. Since I'm not going 100% with IC ballasts, what's a good alternative? I figure I may as well get a 2x2 setup or even a 4x1 setup for better dawn/day/noon/day/dusk control.

Shameless kiss-up: You are the man! I wasted two weeks searching all over the net. You helped me in minutes!

[The Grim Reefer]

You don't need the IC ballast but it's never a bad idea. The triads that come with the standard retrofits are fine.

[stdenpi1]

OK Grim Reefer, I went out and purchased the 48" Tx5 from Aquactinics, and installed the following light configuration and the tank looks GREAT!!! Thanks for the info....

Front

Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
Aquablue

I do have another newbie question for you though....

With the 2 switches, do I leave them both on all day, or is there some configuration to do with times like on for 12 hours then only the blues on for 12???

Any help you can provide as always will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us newbies :)


Pierre

[The Grim Reefer]

I would run the Super Actinic/Blue Plus pair in positions 2&4 12 hours and run the other 3 8 to 10 hours. Thats the whole reason for the position of the lamps, so you have a blue plus and actinic on one circuit for a cool dusk/dawn look/

[Cozzmolot]

Here is a link to the <a href="http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AT-TX54800&Category_Code=Aquactinics"> T-5 Setup</a> that I bought, and I was just wondering what your input was and what I should use for my bulb setup.

I have a 75gal tank and I am going to be running clams and misc. corals maybe SPS, as well as some smaller fish.

Want a good mix of blue, just curious about brands and position.

[The Grim Reefer]

Front
ATI Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun or GE 6500K Daylight
Blue Plus
Aquablue

You should have plenty of intensity as long as you keep the fixture low near the tank. SPS up on the rocks will do fine. Make sure any high lighting clams on the sand are under the lights and they should be happy.

[TRITON1]

So Grim, would you recremend a 4, 5 or 6 bulb fixture for a 75g (4ft)? Like Cosmo I would only have softies and LPS and few if any SPS, but I would like an BTA and a clam. Thanks for all your input in this thread.

[The Grim Reefer]

5 or 6 lamps. The Clam and Anemone need a lot of light.

[dphins]

I was wondering if you knew which bulb had more par?
54W T5 Aquablue Plus 11K Giesemann PowerChrome Bulb
or
54W 12000K ATI Aquablue Special T5HO

[dphins]

Whoops, sorry, I just saw your other thread about par. Thanks for getting us all the T-5 info Grim!

[BFG]

Grim, got a question for you regarding actinic. I have a 4x2x2 tank and was wondering if I really need a 54w actinic tube. I was thinking of grabbing a 3ft lightset just for actinic. Currently I have a 4x54w T5 HO lightset with 4 ATI tube, 2 white and 2 blue tube. Can I get away with a 39w actinic lightset instead of getting a 54w actinic lightset? Currently my tank is stock up with softies and will be going to add lps in a few month time.

[The Grim Reefer]

The 39 watt actinics should be fine. You might not get quite the effect at the edges but I think it will look fine.

[mcclandy]

where was the info on the par of the T5's? IS there a list of bulbs and output? maybe i missed it in here.. if so sorry!!

andy

[IPT]

What would be your recommendation for lighting a frag tank? The tank would be "out of sight" (sort of) so the bulb choice would be geared toward growth not asthetics (I would think more 6500 or 3000K bulbs). Also the species (SPS - acro and others) could be close to the surface for maximizing the intensity using the minimum amt of bulbs. Probably a 15 gal tank or so plumbed in off the sump. Would you do a 4x24w system (Tek), or maybe 3X24 with an icecap to overdrive? What bulb combo would be best to get the most bang for buck minimizing watts/bulbs used?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9933556#post9933556 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcclandy
where was the info on the par of the T5's? IS there a list of bulbs and output? maybe i missed it in here.. if so sorry!!

andy http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=918935

[hypermikie]

Well it's been several months since I looked into T5's... NOW I'm FINALLY getting ready to purchase mine for my 70g (36Lx24Wx20H).

I was going to do a 6 Bulb originally and it MUST be a retro fit! I just got my custom canopy and stand finished :)

What are my better choices and what bulb combo should I go with?

Cost friendly options are usually weighted more heavily!

[mcclandy]

thanks for the dirrections Grim!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9934416#post9934416 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hypermikie
Well it's been several months since I looked into T5's... NOW I'm FINALLY getting ready to purchase mine for my 70g (36Lx24Wx20H).

I was going to do a 6 Bulb originally and it MUST be a retro fit! I just got my custom canopy and stand finished :)

What are my better choices and what bulb combo should I go with?

Cost friendly options are usually weighted more heavily!

A 6 lamp Tek retro upgraded to Ice Cap reflectors from reefgeek. Do this for lams

Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
GE 3000K (reefgeek has them, may not be listed on the website)
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Blue Plus

[dphins]

I looked at the Reefgeek website and they sell SLR reflectors by Icecap. Is this the same icecap reflector that you should upgrade to. If not, who carries them?

[The Grim Reefer]

Yes, Ice Cap SLR

[Dave2]

Hello, I am thinking of changing my lighting set up (in effort to lower the electricity bill). Currently I have 2x250 watt XM10k halide, and 2x110 VHO actinic. The tank is a 85 gallon 48x18x22.

I was thinking 6x54 retro watt with the icecap reflectors, or will I need 8 bulbs to help replicate the previous light. I am not afraid to loose a little par, it would be nice to have a little bluer look to the tank. I do stock SPS fairly heavy, but is in the top 1/2-2/3 of the tank. I also have some croceas on the sand bed.

Any insight would be appreciated.

[The Grim Reefer]

6 should be fine.

I would run the typical 6 lamp mix

Blue Plus
Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun or GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Blue Plus

[Dave2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9936912#post9936912 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
6 should be fine.

I would run the typical 6 lamp mix

Blue Plus
Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun or GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Aquablue
Blue Plus

Thanks! I guess the worst that could happen is add a couple extra bulbs. ;)

[hypermikie]

Grim,

What are the benefits/differences in the GE 6500/UVL Aquasun vs. the GE 3000 in the typical six bulb set-ups?

As well, SLR vs. Tek2 Reflectors? Price is negligible, I think $2 more per. So no issue there. Just curious as to how the newer Tek2's hold up against the SLR's?

BTW: What do you do for a hobby since your "job" seems to be answering all of our questions! ;)

[The Grim Reefer]

A GE 3000K would be a good choice, it's just some people dont like the look so I shy away from suggesting it for newbes to t5's. Probably a bad move on my part.

Forget the Tek II reflectors, Hahnmeister tested them and they dont hang with the Ice Caps and they are over 3" wide which limits the amount of lamps you can use.

I am Disabled so playing with lights is something to do to keep me from going crazy. Kinda relates to my old job.

[sayn3ver]

Grim,

I asked about lighting for a 40g breeder(36x18x16), it will be my first reef and you recommened the aquatinics fixture. I am now at the point of beginning to purchase equipment. I've been holding off for the ATI sunpower and am still holding out for that. But i just checked reefgeek and they offer VHO icecap retros, which i assume is over driving the bulbs. How do these compare to the sun power and would it be worth retroing these instead of an open top tank with hanging fixture?

I want to keep a mixed reef(lots of zoo's, some sps, some polyps). it'll be bare bottom. I'd like to be able to step up tank size to maybe a 36x24x24 in the future.

[ykwan]

hey grim,

any comments on this set up? im planning to get 2 for my 10g nano.

18" Nova Extreme X2 Saltwater 40W Fixture

http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/power_novaXtreme2.htm

thanks

[kmacartney]

Do any of the experts have an opinion of this light?

http://hellolights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=719

[ichthyojason]

I was wondering if anyone had heard of this and if it is possible . . .

Can you take a CF setup - switch out the endcaps to T5s and use the same CF ballasts? If so, what will the energy usage be? The ballast size or the bulb size? i.e. could i convert a 4x96W to a 4x54W HO and only use the 4x54 W of energy. any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[The Grim Reefer]

Stick with the aquactinics fixture for this tank. Once you go to a bigger tank you can upgrade lighting too. The ATI is really overkill for a mixed reef in a 40 breader.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9937270#post9937270 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sayn3ver
Grim,

I asked about lighting for a 40g breeder(36x18x16), it will be my first reef and you recommened the aquatinics fixture. I am now at the point of beginning to purchase equipment. I've been holding off for the ATI sunpower and am still holding out for that. But i just checked reefgeek and they offer VHO icecap retros, which i assume is over driving the bulbs. How do these compare to the sun power and would it be worth retroing these instead of an open top tank with hanging fixture?

I want to keep a mixed reef(lots of zoo's, some sps, some polyps). it'll be bare bottom. I'd like to be able to step up tank size to maybe a 36x24x24 in the future.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9939988#post9939988 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ykwan
hey grim,

any comments on this set up? im planning to get 2 for my 10g nano.

18" Nova Extreme X2 Saltwater 40W Fixture

http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/power_novaXtreme2.htm

thanks

Should work fine for that lil tank.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9940221#post9940221 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kmacartney
Do any of the experts have an opinion of this light?

http://hellolights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=719

Looks like a Tek light fixture

[JohnL]

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