Tort ID pls !

[wcpeixoto]

Just bought a frag. Is this really a tort ?

http://www.megagaleria.com/pictures/Pic_9162_6.jpg

http://www.megagaleria.com/pictures/Pic_9162_11.jpg

[gasman059]

ORA BLUE TORT. ENJOY

[Don Berry]

The colors look similiar to the ORA Tort, but It doesn't have the same coralite structure as mine and has way larger polyps. I'm thinking it's not a Tort, but I'm not positive.

[Dejavu]

atlantisaquarium has a ORA tort that they are calling ORA Chunky Tort that looks very similar.
http://www.atlantisaquarium.net/sps4.html

[wentreefgirl]

That looks like the ora marshall island purple green fuzzy.

[mtfatwork]

depending on the light it was kept under, that could even be the ora chips acro :)

[tnn1567]

First pic is an ORA Tort and the second looks like an ORA Rosco or Chips acro.

[Ostentum]

Wow I have seen that frag called many of things. From ORA Valida to ORA Chips to ORA Tort. One thing I think that we can all agree on is that it is an ORA coral. I would like to point out the green coralites that are on the frag in the second picture. I have yet to see a tort with green coralites. All the ones I have come across are Blue-purple. The first picture that you posted apprears to be the stock photo from Extreme Corals. Is the second photo actually of your frag? The two frags to me are extremely different. The second looks just like my ORA chips when I first got it. It had the dark green body with the deep purple tips and huge polyp extension. In two months or so the body has lightened to a more of a neon green from the forest green and still has the huge polyp extension with the deep purple tips. If those are both stock photos a picture of the actual frag that you recieved is vital in the people here identifying what you recieved

[Minhle100]

ostentum i think that your right on. if the poster got that from a site i think that the site is running a scam. those are definitely two different corals. the first has purple or blue polyps while the second picture has green polyps.

that is just wrong

[tnn1567]

If you check out extreme corals, those are their pics. The second picture is a chip acro.

[wife no likey]

I highly doubt it is an ORA piece, as he is from Brazil :)

the coralites do resemble that of a tort though -especially in the top down shot

[PUGroyale]

I'm gonna have to pick up the ORA tort... it looks fantastic :) I thought I already had it, but I no longer feel confident it's the same piece considering where I got it :(

[mpoletti]

ora chips acro. The coralite structure is differrent than their tort.

[wcpeixoto]

Hi, guys

Thanks for so many replies.

Both pictures were sent to me when the frag was offered, as only one coral. I never have any doubt those pictures were taken from any website where I do believe the supplier bought his coral.

I took my frag yesterday, it is tinny and was kept far from light and of course it does not have those colors yet. But last week I say another frag in a house of a friend, fragged at the same time than mine, but already delivered about 45 days ago. Since then it is under 250W MH and colors are amazing, I would say pretty much same than the pictures, or even more beautiful.

I bought it as Tort, and as pennilessreefer pointed out, Tortuosas are really rare in Brazil and we depend on someone bring them from US and pray to not death on its way.

Now observing Extreme Corals website it´s clear that each picture sent to me was from a different coral (one from Tort another from Chip), so I will have to wait this baby grows a little more to find out what it is. Not that I care too much, both are beautiful.

All I wanted was to confirm if it is really a Tort or whatever, since I paied US$ 300,00/inch...

[Serioussnaps]

its not chips

[Ostentum]

300 an inch. OUCH! Maybe I should start importing corals into Brazil. I sure hope for your sake that it colors up nice and really is a tort. If it looks more like the first picture than more than likely it is a tort, the second is definetly a chips acro. I have both in my tank. If the coralites are blue-purple then you more than likely have a tort. Green you have a chips or maybe even a try color valida. Might be hard to tell when its only an inch. If you can get a pic up though i am curious to see what it looks like. Good luck to you though, I am praying for yours to survive for you cause I would be extremely upset if I paid 300USD for a frag and it didnt make it.

[Serioussnaps]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9606963#post9606963 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ostentum
300 an inch. OUCH! Maybe I should start importing corals into Brazil. I sure hope for your sake that it colors up nice and really is a tort. If it looks more like the first picture than more than likely it is a tort, the second is definetly a chips acro. I have both in my tank. If the coralites are blue-purple then you more than likely have a tort. Green you have a chips or maybe even a try color valida. Might be hard to tell when its only an inch. If you can get a pic up though i am curious to see what it looks like. Good luck to you though, I am praying for yours to survive for you cause I would be extremely upset if I paid 300USD for a frag and it didnt make it.

Identifying a coral based on colors is a very poor practice.

[gasman059]

I have yet to see a tort with green coralites. All the ones I have come across are Blue-purple. The first picture that you posted apprears to be the stock photo IMHO u have not seen enuff of them.
If the coralites are blue-purple then you more than likely have a tort. Green you have a chips or maybe even a try color valida.
Big generalization
As we all know ID corals is a crapshoot-especially when frags.
dentifying a coral based on colors is a very poor practice. AGREE
Ok just for kicks can u ID this one .
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n320/gasman059/IMG_2348.jpg[/IMG]
And to c if u are really good Mr. Ostentum pls Id all of this frags and if u get them all right i'll get u one for free.LOL

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n320/gasman059/IMG_2363.jpg[/IMG] :smokin:

[wcpeixoto]

Just got frag´s picture:

http://www.megagaleria.com/pictures/Pic_9162_12.jpg

[gasman059]

Right this moment with that pic it can be anything
100% sure its an acropora the rest who knows. May very well be a tort but-to get a proper id now its just an assumption IMO

[tnn1567]

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n320/gasman059/IMG_2363.jpg

For fun,

1st row from left to right
lokani, tenuis, oregon blue tort, lokani, milli

2nd row
Crayola, some sort of stag, green slimer, unknown, blue rim cap, and a soli.

[gasman059]

LOL
1st row
only 2 right
2nd row
1 right

[Ventralis321]

let me take a crack. although i'm not a 100%.
First row
A. Granulosa or lokani, A. loisettae, A. tort oregon most likely, A. Suharsonoi or Simplex or Cariolinia, even lokani, A. Prostrata or millepora

Second row
A. Plana, A. Formosa, A. Horrida, maybe A. Rosaria its not a monti is it? I've seen montis that grow like that, M. Capricornis, A. Abrotonoides

[gasman059]

let me take a crack. although i'm not a 100%.
4/11 less than 50% Just to reinforce my point is very diff. to peg this frags.
There's some obvious like the lokani and the leng-sy look alike
and the blue tort
The rest are very difficult lol but keeo trying.
btw I'm 1005 sure of all the id's. I created this response for
Mr. Ostentum but haqve not heard from him yet LOL

[Ostentum]

For one I was driving home from work is why you didnt hear from me. And another thing I was just trying to give my opinion on something and corals that I have come across in my 5 years of experience. Seroiussnaps, your rude come offs are very unappreciated so here is for you gtfo if you dont have anything constructive to say. Your comment it on not chips, well if the second one doesnt look like a chips why dont you give us some evidence on why it wouldnt be. Serious never once did I claim to be an expert, just my OPINION and what I have seen. Gasman maybe I havent seen many, I just house about 5 different varieties in my tank, and have many friends who house more in theirs and have in my experience yet to see one without blue or purple or some shade inbetween on torts. From the stock photos like i said I have both. One being an ORA Tort and the other being an ORA Chips or atleast that is what 5 different people who have been raising SPS for 10+ years have told me. You make a valid point about ID sps being extremely difficult especially in frags under a couple of inches, because they are not fully colored nor has there true branching structure shown itself.

Here is my best educated guess to humor you. Flame away when I dont identify them correctly cause I am sure that is what your after. Make me your muse for all I care.
1st Row
A. Granulosa , Hoeki maybe?, A.Tortuosa (Not sure if it is Cali or OR), Deep water acro of some sort maybe a lokani or Carolinia?, Blue Prostrata
2nd Row
A. Echinata, A. Abrolhosensis( Blue Stag)or Nobilis, A. Loisetta, A.Horrida, M.Capricornis, Saw one with this structure the other day and it isnt coming to me , robusta.


Flame on

[gasman059]

You make a valid point about ID sps being extremely difficult especially in frags under a couple of inches, because they are not fully colored nor has there true branching structure shown itself.
Agree

Here is my best educated guess to humor you. Flame away when I dont identify them correctly cause I am sure that is what your after.
No buddy not at all -the purpose of the thread like must of the threads in this forum IMO is to educate ourselves in this wonderful hobby not to bash. So if it came across that way I apologize -def not the intent of the post. Anyways it will be extremely difficult to id this frags-unless u picked them yourself LOL. I picked them and when i got them home i was like what LOL- anyways-here u go(this are 5 months old now.
lokani-chips-blue tort-turaki-blue milli
desalwii-turquiose stag-green slimer-a.chester-lend-sy look alike-miami orchid.
:D

[Ostentum]

In all honesty some of the correct answers crossed my mind with the exception of the Miami orchid, very interesting growth pattern. There is always something to learn in this hobby. and I definetly got my lesson for today. Thanks for the post I appreciate it. As for Serious my original statement stands. Bad day today so if I jumped the gun a little I apologize to you. BTW how did you get the growth structure on the Miami Orchid, is that a colony that has been fragged multiple times to get that growth because it does look when a coral base grows out and new baby branches form.

[gasman059]

Got it originally like this from the source TCN

[just dave]

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