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ct_vol
03/30/2007, 09:45 PM
Finally got a nice pic of mine... Thought I'd share... lol ;)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/LPS/PPE.jpg

fijiblue
03/30/2007, 10:09 PM
Those are awesome!!! Where did you get those?

gemini aquarius(t)
03/30/2007, 11:23 PM
"Thought I'd share"

yes please do ill send u my addy :)
jk
nice zoas:)

scoutmaniak
03/31/2007, 01:04 AM
They look great!! Nice to find someone that got what they paid for...

Schadiest1
03/31/2007, 04:24 AM
Very nice! You ready to frag them yet?

raider77
03/31/2007, 07:58 AM
Very nice pic Randy!

ct_vol
03/31/2007, 09:42 AM
Thanks for all the nice comments... :D


And nope, not fragging... Still only have 9 polyps... ;)

MTB
03/31/2007, 10:15 AM
Those are sweet! I need to find some!




OR You could put me in line for frags.J/K

edwing206
03/31/2007, 05:07 PM
OOOOH. Very nice.

MarvinsReef
04/01/2007, 10:58 AM
nicey... :)

ct_vol
04/01/2007, 01:48 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9620816#post9620816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarvinsReef
nicey... :)

Yeah, now if I could match your growth, I'd be all set... lol ;)

neyugn0w01
04/11/2007, 09:19 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/neyugn0w01/IMG_2751_edited.jpg

msman825
04/11/2007, 09:22 AM
very nice shoot there neyugn0w01

MarvinsReef
04/11/2007, 01:23 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9698655#post9698655 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by neyugn0w01
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/neyugn0w01/IMG_2751_edited.jpg
hey, very nice Lam.. they looked familiar.. :D

neyugn0w01
04/11/2007, 01:30 PM
dp

neyugn0w01
04/11/2007, 01:30 PM
Yup. Those are yours. I think I got about 2-3 polyps since I got them. Compare to the other fradulent PPE I got, these are nicest and much more healthy. THanks again.

ct_vol
04/11/2007, 04:52 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9700564#post9700564 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by neyugn0w01
Yup. Those are yours. I think I got about 2-3 polyps since I got them. Compare to the other fradulent PPE I got, these are nicest and much more healthy. THanks again.


I got a set of "fraudulent PPE's"... I'm not really sure if they're fake or just a different morph... The diameter is a bit smaller than the size of a dime... But everything else looks exactly like other PPE's, green mouth and everything... I'll try and get a pic of the two PPE's next to one another... But for now, this pic will have to do... :)


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/Zoos/SDPESS.jpg

neyugn0w01
04/11/2007, 11:54 PM
Not to worry, but I got some also and I am sure lots of other people out there has been dub with some fake PPE.

frontosa_man80
04/12/2007, 10:51 AM
here's my one PPE

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/mbiglay/PPE_1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

Blitz99
04/13/2007, 06:54 PM
those fakes are desert fox, i believe.

ct_vol
04/13/2007, 08:25 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9720202#post9720202 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Blitz99
those fakes are desert fox, i believe.

Its the four polyps to the right I was referring to... And those that you were talking about are GSPE's... I should be able to get a comparison pic tomorrow... :)

JGoslee
04/13/2007, 09:51 PM
ct_vol, It's hard to tell from that pic but they look like the real deal to me. What makes you think they are fake?

ct_vol
04/14/2007, 07:04 AM
Here you go Jgos...

I'm not sure that they are fake, just maybe a different strain or morph or something... They're a bit lighter in color, and their full grown polyps are probably half the size...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/Aquapod/PPE.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/Aquapod/PPE2.jpg

LMK what you guys think... :D

RevHtree
04/14/2007, 07:33 AM
Did any of you get your so called "fakes" from me?

JGoslee
04/14/2007, 07:39 AM
Are they Zoanthus gigantus? I think they're pretty cool looking. Like a PPEjr.:)

chrisstie
04/14/2007, 07:40 AM
Whats the deal with zoaid and PPEs .. each pic looks kind of different.

What color should the skirt technically be? the ones with the bright green they call a joker paly.

Maybe im slightly color blind. Could someone explain what the difference is and what each should look like?

JGoslee
04/14/2007, 07:49 AM
Jokers are palys and don't have the green slit mouth. PPE's are Zoanthus gigantus. On PPE's the skirt and mouth should be green and the oral disc should be purple. PPE's can look different depending on the lighting, flow etc. Here's a pic of my PPE's. The color is lighter due to being in high light.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/jgoslee/ppe-3.jpg

ct_vol
04/14/2007, 07:51 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9723220#post9723220 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisstie
Whats the deal with zoaid and PPEs .. each pic looks kind of different.

What color should the skirt technically be? the ones with the bright green they call a joker paly.

Maybe im slightly color blind. Could someone explain what the difference is and what each should look like?


You're not color blind... Its hard to distinguish, because a lot of palys/zoas will change due to their environment... PPE's will speckle with hight lighting, and Jokers will turn more greyish, rather than deep purple...

People often confuse PHE's, PPE's, and Jokers... They all have green skirts and purplish centers... Of course with slight variations... lol ;)

PPE's are a member of the zoanthid gigantus family but most people refer to them as Palys because of their size... The PE types are known for their Green Mouth Slit and white striping evident on the polyp when closed...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/LPS/PPE.jpg

Jokers are very similar to PPE's, except that they do not have the green mouth or white striping...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/120/Picture031.jpg

PHE's are a lot smaller, and I like their purple centers the best... Sometimes they'll develop a red ring, in the center, which is where they originate their name...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/Zoos/PHE.jpg

chrisstie
04/14/2007, 09:30 AM
Thanks for the great clarification Im just lost on what a PHE is.. purple.. headed?


My other question is what about a PPE that has the green mouth and the stripes underneath (my RPEs have those so i guess they are gigantus too? i always thought it was cool!) ... but the skirt is not quite green but faded looking.. possibly a similar color to the oral disc or just brown

is that a result of different lighting\flow etc or another morph altogether. I'm wondering if they go in under the "fraudulent" kinds or if its just a morph

darned complicated stuff!

jessp
04/14/2007, 09:33 AM
rpe's don't have a green skirt just the green mouth

jessp
04/14/2007, 09:36 AM
my bad just reread your post and i misunderstood the first time

neyugn0w01
04/14/2007, 12:11 PM
True PPE- large polyp palys with intense purple base, metallic green mouth and metallic green skirt.

PHE- regular zoas with purple base and green skirt. tend to develop purple green ring within base

fake PPE- large polyp palys with dull purple base. base can develop ****e speckles under certain lighting. dull green skirt with green mouth.

JGoslee
04/14/2007, 12:25 PM
PPE's aren't paly's. Any zoanthus gigantus that has a purple oral disc, green slit mouth and green skirt is a true PPE. How intense the colors are depends on your lighting.

neyugn0w01
04/14/2007, 02:48 PM
I will take a picture of 2 different PPE I receive under the same lighting and in the same location later. A few of the wild colonies that came in last year that claims to be PPE are not as intense in color.

ct_vol
04/14/2007, 04:03 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9723743#post9723743 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisstie
Thanks for the great clarification Im just lost on what a PHE is.. purple.. headed?


My other question is what about a PPE that has the green mouth and the stripes underneath (my RPEs have those so i guess they are gigantus too? i always thought it was cool!) ... but the skirt is not quite green but faded looking.. possibly a similar color to the oral disc or just brown

is that a result of different lighting\flow etc or another morph altogether. I'm wondering if they go in under the "fraudulent" kinds or if its just a morph

darned complicated stuff!


PHE's are purple hearted emeralds... lol Just look on Zoaid...


All PE's are a member of the zoanthid gigantus family... Distinguishing between the different RPE's, is next to impossible IMO... I know I have at least 3 different morphs of RPE... And I've seen the price range between $2 and $20 per polyp... I think lineage and obviously coloration is more important with them... Some will look Red under any lighting, where as others will look more brown...


neyugn0w01~ Looking forward to the pics!!!!!

RevHtree
04/14/2007, 04:12 PM
So did any of you get your "fakes" from me?

I dont think I believe in fake ones though.

ct_vol
04/14/2007, 06:44 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9725954#post9725954 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RevHtree
So did any of you get your "fakes" from me?

I dont think I believe in fake ones though.


No... But I think you'd better give me some, so I can have a third to compare... lol ;)

And I bet you don't believe in Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either... :D

MarvinsReef
04/14/2007, 11:44 PM
here are two varieties I have.. they both have a place in my tank... :D

more puple...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/32g_Reef/Year_2007/PPEBefFragP.jpg

speckled ones...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/32g_Reef/Year_2007/PPEsBefFragP.jpg

forefront PPE.. the others are speckled RPE's..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/32g_Reef/Year_2007/gotSparklesP.jpg


this is them after fragging... speckled left; more purple right.. experimentation time.. :)
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/32g_Reef/Year_2007/PPEExp_04-14-07P.jpg

hope that clarifies that.. the speckled ones are better growers IME...

JGoslee
04/15/2007, 07:03 AM
Marv were the ones labeled "more purple" ever exposed to high light?

MarvinsReef
04/15/2007, 08:17 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9730075#post9730075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JGoslee
Marv were the ones labeled "more purple" ever exposed to high light?
they will be.. ;)

with the experiment I'm doing... :D

mheaven
04/15/2007, 09:11 AM
Man i have been looking for ppe's for a long time. does anyone have any left?

reef fanatic
04/15/2007, 09:43 AM
I can't wait to see Marvs results. I had mine up top under 150w MH and they started to lighten so I moved them to the bottom and have "cured", much purpler.. =))
Scott
got zoanthids?

Dave12678
04/15/2007, 02:08 PM
Whats that thing to the left? It looks like a anemone on a frag lol, its pink and white.

ct_vol
04/15/2007, 02:38 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9723215#post9723215 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JGoslee
Are they Zoanthus gigantus? I think they're pretty cool looking. Like a PPEjr.:)

Somehow I missed this post... lol Yeah, I think they're cool too, I just wished they damn grew faster!!!!! ;) PPEjr... I like that name... :D



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9732630#post9732630 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dave12678
Whats that thing to the left? It looks like a anemone on a frag lol, its pink and white.



http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/ct_vol/Aquapod/PPE2.jpg


If you're talking about this pic, its a Dendro Frag... Oh, and JGos, you can kinda make out an updated pic of my war coral on the right... lol Been a bit too busy to take a new one...

JGoslee
04/15/2007, 03:36 PM
The warcoral was the first thing I noticed in that pic.:D

chrisstie
04/17/2007, 10:46 AM
Well with all of this talk about PPE I found some locally but its a little bit of a different morph. It has the stripes underneath which make me believe its a giagantus but the skirt isnt green

What do you guys think? (i'll get a better pic with a better camera later but this is the best one I got with my point and shoot- and score a snake polyp in with the bunch)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6779/ppexy0jk0.jpg

MarvinsReef
04/17/2007, 10:58 AM
it's the more common morph of RPE's... nice pick up.. :)

ct_vol
04/17/2007, 11:17 AM
Yeah, I like most all PE's... :D Any is a welcome addition into my tank... ;)

chrisstie
04/17/2007, 02:13 PM
I didn't realize there was a morph of RPEs with purple center and brown skirts? Granted that pic is awful and I should get one with my better camera. Looks like the ones in the pics above in person but without the green skirt ><

Next to my RPEs? look nothing alike. so weird. See why this is confusing and frustrating?

Don Lino
04/17/2007, 08:48 PM
chrisstie, there are some all purple pe's...hmmm, I mean PPE's that are all purple, theres brown ones, and then the PRPE's which in drifferent morphs they look like RPE's. PPE's are green skirted with the green slit mouths though. The all purple ones with the green mouth are commons...I got those too.

berniekyle
04/22/2007, 10:48 PM
Just wondered what you guys thought of these. I've been selling them and want to make sure I'm not misleading people. Thanks

berniekyle
04/22/2007, 10:48 PM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/berniekyle/PPES010.jpg

berniekyle
04/22/2007, 10:50 PM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/berniekyle/PPES012.jpg

berniekyle
04/22/2007, 10:50 PM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/berniekyle/PPES008.jpg

RevHtree
04/23/2007, 11:38 AM
Looks like them to me!!!

makoJ
04/24/2007, 10:17 AM
Here is a picture of our PPE before they morphed, they had been moved from our 75gallon that had 150watt MH's to my new tank with 400Watt MH's
http://greenmako.smugmug.com/photos/122968908-L.jpg

after morphing
http://greenmako.smugmug.com/photos/143685813-O.jpg

MarvinsReef
04/24/2007, 01:52 PM
makoJ.. cool progression shot.. how long did it take for them to fully get the speckled look?

makoJ
04/24/2007, 02:46 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802219#post9802219 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarvinsReef
makoJ.. cool progression shot.. how long did it take for them to fully get the speckled look?

First Picture was taken on: 1/13/2007
Second Picture was taken on: 4/14/2007

spots started to apear at about 1 month or so under the 400's.

ct_vol
04/24/2007, 04:20 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802638#post9802638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by makoJ
First Picture was taken on: 1/13/2007
Second Picture was taken on: 4/14/2007

spots started to apear at about 1 month or so under the 400's.

Awesome... Looks like you've had good growth too... What color spectrum are your VHO's???

coralite
04/24/2007, 04:41 PM
http://coralite.net/webpics/karven/ppe.jpg

makoJ
04/24/2007, 05:58 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9803303#post9803303 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ct_vol
Awesome... Looks like you've had good growth too... What color spectrum are your VHO's???

all my VHO's are actinic, I started with one polyp so they have grown pretty fast.

MarvinsReef
04/24/2007, 09:30 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9803447#post9803447 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralite
http://coralite.net/webpics/karven/ppe.jpg
NICE!!!

MarvinsReef
04/24/2007, 09:31 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9802638#post9802638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by makoJ
First Picture was taken on: 1/13/2007
Second Picture was taken on: 4/14/2007

spots started to apear at about 1 month or so under the 400's.
cool... thanks.. :)

and btw, awesome growth on them... :D

cardgenius
04/25/2007, 01:12 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9803447#post9803447 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralite
http://coralite.net/webpics/karven/ppe.jpg

Whoa! Thats one hell of a pic. Glad to see that someone in Denver knows about the good stuff:D