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the other tang
04/05/2007, 02:27 PM
I read mine for the first time last week and it was 635ppm, whats yours? I think that is pretty high, but I want to see how it compares to other parts of the country. If you post please add your location if its not under your avatar.

marduc
04/05/2007, 02:29 PM
wow, yeah that seems really high compared to what I see in Tampa.

I just moved my tank and RO/DI unit from one side of town to the other, I used to get readings of 200-250 ppm, now it runs 350ish.

yraveh
04/05/2007, 02:32 PM
125 in north miami beach

the other tang
04/05/2007, 02:58 PM
Thanks guys I know the water is bad here I just don't know how bad. Maybe AZdesertrat can comment on what is standard. I'd like to get some more info from out west, up east etc to see what is low and high.

danskim
04/05/2007, 03:03 PM
Baltimore is around 150ppm. At least my house.

AZDesertRat
04/05/2007, 04:19 PM
Mine was 852 last Saturday when I checked it.
250 is about the national average. The lucky stiffs in the Atlanta area enjoy numbers below 50 from what I have seen. Here in the Phoenix metro area we are served by the Colorado and Salt River systems. Three guesses as to where the Salt River got its name and the first two don't count!

jjmcat
04/05/2007, 04:28 PM
160 in Tulsa OK.

Slickbaby
04/05/2007, 06:24 PM
125 in denver

Boomer
04/05/2007, 06:27 PM
56.5 TDS, Lake Superior, Duluth, MN :lol: :D

AZDesertRat
04/05/2007, 07:20 PM
Theres one in every crowd! Boomer you stink!

PatrickJ
04/05/2007, 07:50 PM
250 in New Orleans area

Boomer
04/05/2007, 11:19 PM
Yah Rat but the knotheads bumped the pH way to 9.1 ;( using soda ash, Sodium Hydroxide, for scale control. It use to be pH 7.1 ;) And I have not checked for a while, I gave all my stuff to Randy. Maybe on of these days I'll ask Jim from thefilterguys. I ran tanks for 30 years right out of the tap with just a dechloraminator. We were like the first city to use chloramines. Started it back in the late 70's. I forgot it was also 100.4 uS

Billybeau1
04/05/2007, 11:20 PM
120 ppm in NW Indiana (Chicago water) from Lake Michigan)

Yeh Rat...... Boomers a real riot :blown:

Boomer
04/05/2007, 11:34 PM
That high TDS is proably from all the dead fish :lol: And as you move East it gets worse.

Here is a short Assay
http://www.ci.duluth.mn.us/city/comfortsystems07/WhatsNew/Duluth%202005%20CCR.pdf


Your read and weep page :D You could spend an hr here learing about water, Ok our WATER :D
http://www.duluthstreams.org/understanding/param_ec.html#realdata


Some really cool stuff here, we know water here, we do not play games :lol:

http://www.duluthstreams.org/understanding/stormgraphs.html

Billybeau1
04/05/2007, 11:38 PM
They don't call it "Superior" for nothing ! :D

drummereef
04/06/2007, 12:39 AM
Last time I checked it was in the 250 range in St. Louis. I tend to avoid it and drink from my RO. I leave the DI for the fishies. :)

Grunt007
04/06/2007, 02:27 AM
300 here, eastern PA.

wzero
04/06/2007, 03:24 AM
420, Shanghai China.

dkh0331
04/06/2007, 04:01 AM
The Allegheny River P water north of Pittsburgh isn't too terrible. 165.

Mr31415
04/06/2007, 04:47 AM
In South Africa - Centurion I have about 200.

cham
04/06/2007, 04:53 AM
132 Orlando FL

i dont eat fish
04/06/2007, 08:44 AM
I get between 141 and 215 in the North Hills.

anthony34
04/06/2007, 09:00 AM
120ppm Nashville TN (Hermitage area)

MrPike
04/06/2007, 09:29 AM
Varies between 30 and 45 here in Ft. Collins, Colorado. I use tapwater for my stony reef, and most of the time I don't even add dechlor, too much work :)

anthony34
04/06/2007, 09:46 AM
As a General Rule of Thumb of the PPM

0 - 50 - RO Water (Acceptable range)
50 - 170 - Spring Water (Acceptable range)
170 - 200 - Hard Water
200 - 300 - Marginal at best
300 - 500 - Unplesent water

AZDesertRat
04/06/2007, 09:54 AM
TDS is strictly astetic per the EPA and most municipalities. There are no enforcable contaminant levels. Even though Phoenix water is in the 700 to 1000 range it is by no means offensive, unpleasant or unhealthful.

Canarygirl
04/06/2007, 09:56 AM
TDS of municipal water in Lynnwood, WA is 35.

anthony34
04/06/2007, 10:01 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9661020#post9661020 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AZDesertRat
TDS is strictly astetic per the EPA and most municipalities. There are no enforcable contaminant levels. Even though Phoenix water is in the 700 to 1000 range it is by no means offensive, unpleasant or unhealthful.

Totally correct thats why its consider a TDS testing general rule of thumb and does not mean unhealthy, but you can taste the difference from State/City to State/City :) and I have tasted some nasty water in other States :)

jnb
04/06/2007, 10:03 AM
168

deerfield beach between Boca Raton and Lauderdale

davocean
04/06/2007, 01:16 PM
I get 530 here in San Diego CA.

cristhiam
04/06/2007, 02:03 PM
144

nethawk73
04/06/2007, 10:45 PM
220 in South Hackensack NJ

Megalodon
04/06/2007, 10:50 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9654881#post9654881 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by the other tang
I read mine for the first time last week and it was 635ppm, whats yours?Wow, that's a lot! Mine's about 4ppm at the most.

AZDesertRat
04/06/2007, 10:57 PM
Tap water TDS at 4???? Holy cow! I find that pretty hard to believe unless your utility uses membranes for treatment. A tap TDS of 4 would be highly problematic as it would be extremely agressive to plumbing fixtures, piping and appliances. It would suck the lead and copper out or brass and bronze, eat stainless steel and have a really wacky pH and Langlier Index. No utility in the USA could provide water to the public like that as it would not meet the EPAs lead and copper rules.
I am not doubting you or suggesting you are fudging but as a water treatment professional I cannot fathom that.

drstupid
04/07/2007, 12:39 PM
i i just tested mine from my kitchen sink with an electronic pen meter, came up with 199 ppm with about 5 secs of cold only water flowing (to make sure i wasn't measuring anything from my known-to-be-dying hot water heater). i let the cold water run for 2 minutes, measured again and got 140 ppm.

i'm curious how many of the measurements reported were before flushing out their own water lines, and if they were remeasured, what the difference would be. especially the 635ppm measurement.

CMcNeil
04/07/2007, 12:45 PM
mine comes into my house in the low 200's

AZDesertRat
04/07/2007, 12:52 PM
I wait several minutes before taking mine with the meter in the water the whole time to stabilize the temperature. The meters probe and water need to be the same temp. Thats why the inline meters are not so accurate, their probes are exposed to the air temperature and not the water temperature which are rarely the same.

drstupid
04/07/2007, 01:26 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9669346#post9669346 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AZDesertRat
I wait several minutes before taking mine with the meter in the water the whole time to stabilize the temperature. The meters probe and water need to be the same temp. Thats why the inline meters are not so accurate, their probes are exposed to the air temperature and not the water temperature which are rarely the same.

how long does it take for the measurement to stabilize?

every time i fire up the RO/DI unit, the meter after the RO stage starts out at 200 ppm and drops down to a more reasonable 4-8 ppm after a couple of minutes. the post DI meter starts out at maybe 1 ppm and drops down to the expected 0 ppm very quickly. am i seeing the effects of temperature compensation, or am i seeing dissolved solids built up in my water lines and in the water filter being flushed out?

AZDesertRat
04/07/2007, 02:38 PM
With inlines they are never 100% accurate since the temp probe is on the outside of the probe in the little rectangular hole you can see in the affter part. But you are seeing TDS creep in the beginning and after a quart or less in most cases it will settle down to as a ccurate as it is going to be. My handheld (HM Digital COM-100) is temperature compensated plus has built in thermometer so you can see when the temperature has stabilized the TDS readings quit wandering.

HowardW
04/07/2007, 02:53 PM
Tap TDS is 234 here in the western burbs of Chicago

saltpeter
04/07/2007, 03:31 PM
155-170 mid ohio

J. Montgomery
04/07/2007, 03:40 PM
20-30ppm here in Charlottesville, VA

Megalodon
04/07/2007, 09:40 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9666505#post9666505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AZDesertRat
Tap water TDS at 4???? Holy cow! I find that pretty hard to believe unless your utility uses membranes for treatment. A tap TDS of 4 would be highly problematic as it would be extremely agressive to plumbing fixtures, piping and appliances. It would suck the lead and copper out or brass and bronze, eat stainless steel and have a really wacky pH and Langlier Index. No utility in the USA could provide water to the public like that as it would not meet the EPAs lead and copper rules.
I am not doubting you or suggesting you are fudging but as a water treatment professional I cannot fathom that. Yeah, in the Greater Vancouver region it can range from 4 to 12ppm, depending on where you are and what time of the year it is. When I tested mine a couple years ago it was 4.

Right now my tap water has a pH of 6.3 and no detectable hardness. (I don't have a TDS meter anymore.) We live in temperate rain forest (or at least surrounded by it) where it rains a lot so our water is very pure.

I wasn't using an RO/DI with my salt water because I thought there was no need to. Then I found out our tap water had high amounts of copper and who-knows-else what kinds of other metals, which the water obviously picked up from the pipes. Not so high that it threatens a persons health, but for marine inverts it can, and did. So that sucks.

What also sucks is I have a African cichlid tank and I need to add baking soda and sodium or calcium carbonate just to keep the pH and water hardness up.

Great for South American and other soft-water tanks, though.

the other tang
04/09/2007, 11:19 AM
Thanks all for your readings, I re checked mine and let it run for quite a while as I did before. It showed 325 on Fri, Sat, and Sun. I guess it was a spike form who knows where.

From what you guys wrote, I seem to be on the high side of the norm but still ok, apparently I will just use filters faster....great. I seems that Atlanta ,BC and Boomerville are well below the natl' average and the place to be for low tds water. Phoenix and San Diego looked to be the highest TDs levels. Florida seems to be the most similar state, swamps, on the gulf etc. The water was much better though, probable due to having a Government/Governor.

Any others on the gulf coast with readings? TX, MS, Al?

kae
04/09/2007, 11:42 AM
185 in Bangkok , Thailand. :p

Ladipyg
10/30/2007, 05:01 PM
Chicago 164 from tap that has been running for 5 minutes to clear pipes

jaws_too
10/30/2007, 05:47 PM
245, in largo florida

sabbath
10/30/2007, 06:34 PM
TDS 119 in the Twin City's Minnesota.

Roland Jacques
10/30/2007, 06:45 PM
TDS 33 Atlanta Ga.

But it has not rained for a while, normaly 50sh.

dcs03tx
10/30/2007, 07:39 PM
120 Ft Worth, Tx

cd77
10/30/2007, 07:53 PM
~460 near Indianapolis.

... we're rated one of the worst in the country.

cd77
10/30/2007, 07:56 PM
Wow, Atlanta!

Aren't cities required to add fluorine to our water, and to treat with chlorine or chloramine? Curious what good RO water with just the required additives (if there are any) would bump the TDS up to.

Bri Guy
10/30/2007, 09:54 PM
160 Appleton WI, 450 in a neighboring town!!

jthnhale
10/31/2007, 12:39 AM
45 on average in NYC.

mwitten
10/31/2007, 06:20 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11085698#post11085698 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Roland Jacques
TDS 33 Atlanta Ga.

But it has not rained for a while, normally 50sh.

Over hear in the Decatur, GA (sub of Atlanta), mine ranges from about 44-48, depending. That also agrees with the county water analysis they post. They do use chloramines, I believe. I have not checked it in about a month or more, so the drought may have impacted it.

-Mike

rodd1rj
10/31/2007, 06:29 AM
'bout 450 in Mid-Mich.

landlord
10/31/2007, 07:06 AM
65 ppm in Northern KY