*NEW* Sequence Skimmer - Any Interest?

[Jeremy B.]

Hi Everyone.... We are currently testing a prototype skimmer built for Sequence that was made around their ORCA Needlewheel pump. This unit is made to be equivelant to the Royal-Exclusiv Bubble King skimmers, but at a fraction of the cost. The unit we are currently test has dimensions as follows:

15" x 15" x 5.5" - Base Box

12" x 15.5" - Reaction Chamber

11" Reducing down to 6" - Riser Tube

32" - Overall Height

1/2" Venturi

I am estimating the capacity of this up to 600gal heavily stocked, and up to 1000gal lightly stocked.

Here are a few pictures....

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/1.jpg

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/2.jpg

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/3.jpg

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/4.jpg

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/5.jpg

[GTR]

Having owned a BK 300 for almost two years it's nice to see some of those features built into new skimmers on the market.

One things for sure though, if those thumb screws need to be taken off to dump/clean the collection cup that would get old real fast even at a reduced price. The ease of removing the cup from the BK insures it stays clean. ;)

SteveU

[Jeremy B.]

The thumb screws just need about two turns each for the cup to swivel and come off. I do agree though, that a locking neck would be nicer, but at least you do not need to remove the screws each time to dum pit. The cup also has a drain fitting on it, but of course the cleaner you can keep the riser the more efficient it is going to be.

[GTR]

That's not so bad if they are key-hole type. It's just I can't count how many times I've dropped nylon screws in or behind the sump on early (20 years ago) design skimmers. :lol:

SteveU

[Jeremy B.]

Oh yes indeed! I've even been known to snap a few off in my time too!!!

[mariocaz]

Wow Jeremy, awesome skimmer!!!

How do I have to feed the skimmer ?

Do you know more or less how much will be the cost ? and also when the Sequence people expect to sell it ?

Cheers,

Mario

[cwegescheide]

Hmmmm How much? That is exactly the size I'm looking for my new tank your going to build 4 me!!!

[Jeremy B.]

You would need a pump to feed the skimmer with. Of course you can vary the rate at which you feed as well.

We are hoping to have them in stock and ready to ship by the first of June.

Pricing should be in the $1400 range, which is pretty good if you compare it to a EuroReef RC750, EuroReef RC1000 (which this unit is going head to head with at the shop here), and the Bubble King equivelants.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[cwegescheide]

So how's this baby performing next to the Euroreefs?

[Jeremy B.]

It will definitely outperform an RC750 in my opinion so far. It's still breaking in a little, but so far I think it can keep up with, or come very close to keeping up with the RC1000 running right next to it.

[DeltecRules]

How much air are the pumps pulling, and how many watts are the pumps running on?

[njb2345]

It looks great.... Can't wait to see it in person...

Nick

[Jeremy B.]

I don't have the specs on the unit just yet. I am hoping to get that in the very near future though. I will post some more updated pics as things move along with it.

[bigcat39]

Hey Jeremy,
Yep, I'm interested. I'll need a skimmer ~Sept, is that timeframe gonna be possible?

[Jeremy B.]

The first run of these should be to use in June, so a September time frame would work out perfectly! :)

[cweder]

Count me very interested. I have about a 500 gallon. Which pump would you recommend to feed the skimmer with. The pump will have to push the water up 6 feet to the skimmer. I was thinking the Snapper or Dart. How big will the feed connection be? I would think 1+1/2 inch.

Keep us updated on progress,

Thanks

[njb2345]

Just wanted to see if there was any update on these skimmers? Like how they are performing, pics, etc...

Nick

[Charlie Davidson]

can we buy just the pump? :D

[Jeremy B.]

The pump has been available for a couple of months now. Here is a direct link to it....

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SQ-NPACK&Category_Code=Sequence

[ostrow]

You should bring this puppy to IMAC.

[tkeracer619]

It looks quite impressive.

How many gallons is actually going through the skimmer?

[Jeremy B.]

We just received our first production model in the door today, sold to Nick already! :)

Check it out!

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/reeflo1.jpg
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/reeflo2.jpg
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/sequence/reeflo3a.jpg

[Jeremy B.]

tkeracer,

I have put anywhere from 200gph up to 800gph through the unit, and have been just fine at about all of those places. The sweet spot however seems to be right around 350gph - 400gph though.

[TacoKing]

Dang! Gonna be one heck of a skimmer. I might have made it a bit taller myself, but still should perform really well. The bubble plate should do a decent job of reducing the turbulance in there.

[njb2345]

That skimmer looks great... It is even going to look better installed next to the tank :)...


Nick

[Jeremy B.]

We were going to go taller with the height, however the with the diffuser doing it's job it really does perform extremely well at 32" right now. We also wanted people to have options for installation in tighter quarters. There is also a possibility of a taller unit towards the first quarter of '08, with possibly a larger pump too.

[ReefArtist]

Skimmer looks good and I'm very interested - what's with the 90 on the drain cup? I could see my hose kinking in that location - disaster number one.

I was looking at the pump from ORCA - no specs yet?

Are those all Euro fittings? If so are you going to start carrying fittings for it? Just been down this route before - getting parts is a pain if not common here in the US.

[Jeremy B.]

The 90* on the cup had to be there for competitor reasons. I personally do not recommend even using the drain in my opinion. I would plug it up and just use the cup only. The main reason being is that by the time the cup is full you are going to need to clean the neck anyways. By then the efficiency is going to be decreased enough that you'll want it cleaned out.

I still have not had a chance to do my own testing on the ORCA pump. I hope to have that done right after IMAC.

The neck uses key hole slots and nylon screws for that fitting.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[jnarowe]

Jeremy,

Good point about the drain on the cup. I know with my skimmer, I have it draining to a bucket, and I get lazy about cleaning the neck. Unfortunately, if I were to go cup only, I would need a 5 gallon cup at least.

Question: Has Sequence put oout a NW version of the 4200 impeller? I have one waiting patiently, but I know the shaft size is different from the Dart.

[Jeremy B.]

Most likely a 4200 is not going to come out. I do know there is some testing going on with the Hammerhead though.

What size skimmer are you trying to set up?

[jnarowe]

I already have a 50g skimmer that I would like to soup up, and I have been in contact with ctenophore in the past, and it seemed at the time that they might make one for the 4200. I guess it all depends on where the market goes. A Hammerhead is probably too big for that skimmer. I know a Dart would work, but I don't have one.

[Jeremy B.]

If you want to pick up a Dart needlewheel and try on it just let me know. I'll make you a good deal if you want to try it out.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[jnarowe]

I'll keep that in mind Jeremy. Thanks for the offer! I had hoped to use the 4200 since it is not really powerful enough as a return pump on my system. Right now I have it as a spare, but in the future, I will need to get another Hammerhead for that job.

[Jeremy B.]

Our first Reeflo skimmer shipped yesterday evening. As soon as Nick gets this guy up and running I"m sure he will be more than happy to share some experiences and photos of the unit!

Thanks Nick!

[hahnmeister]

At IMAC, I didnt see it myself, but someone said that there was a Euroreef at the PA booth running a dart needlewheel. Is this the case, or were they simply mistaking it for this skimmer?

[Jeremy B.]

There was a EuroReef RC1000 at the booth that was running the dart needlwheel, however the actual Reeflo skimmer with the Dart needlewheel on it was at another booth, not running.

[hahnmeister]

dp

[hahnmeister]

Ah... the RC1000... interesting... any news on that?

[Jeremy B.]

It was a prototype model, so other than the fact that they had it there running just to show, that was about it.

[njb2345]

Sorry for the wait guys.... I installed the unit about 3 hours ago and it is already pulling out some nasty stuff.... In the morning i will take some pics of it and have some details on pump wattage and so on... But so far i am loving the skimmer and Jeremy is a great guy to deal with....

Nick

[cward]

Is the skimmer made here in the states?

[njb2345]

Ok guys.. Here are some crapy pics from this morning.. When my lights come on and the skimmer breaks in more i will def get you some better ones..

The pump puts out about 119 to 120 watts when the air valve is open (running condition) ... Also this skimmer is alomst dead slient.. I can't hear then skimmer at all where my tank is setup at...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/SKimmer1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/skimmer2.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/skimmer3.jpg

Now keep in mind, i just installed the skimmer last night around 9:30 / 10:00....

If anyone has any questions please ask.
Nick

[njb2345]

I also cleaned the skimmer out this morning before i took those pics.. About 2 hours before...

Nick

[sugartooth]

I saw this at IMAC (and oooh and awwwed) and the person at the booth was quite rude. He basically told me point blank that I wouldn't be able to afford it. Of course I was put off and left.

It has always been a pleasure to order from Premium, and I hope this person is NOT going to be your spokesperson!

[Tagareef]

Nick,

Congrats on your new skimmer. I am very impressed with your 12hour pictures considering it's not even broken in yet. How easy was it to install and adjust for you? Looking forward to more pics!

Luis

[cward]

The skimmer looks pretty cool.

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10109076#post10109076 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sugartooth
I saw this at IMAC (and oooh and awwwed) and the person at the booth was quite rude. He basically told me point blank that I wouldn't be able to afford it. Of course I was put off and left.

It has always been a pleasure to order from Premium, and I hope this person is NOT going to be your spokesperson!

We were sharing a booth with EuroReef at IMAC, so we really couldn't show the skimmer in our own booth, so we set it in another vendor's booth just so people could see it. That person has no affiliation with Premium Aquatics, or the skimmer itself.

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10108677#post10108677 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cward
Is the skimmer made here in the states?

They are actually being imported. I think cost played a major role in that to be honest.

[Jeremy B.]

Nick,

The skimmer looks great! It's already producing some really nice, thick foam!

[sugartooth]

Thanks for addressing that Jeremy, I'm glad to hear it because it really was in poor form. I understand now.

[ostrow]

Hey, Jeremy, when are they going to appear on the Premium website? Shouldn't they be in stock any day now?

[hahnmeister]

Thats a nice, stable foam head... I dont see much in the way of bubble consolidation at all... like the Bubblemasters. I mean, look... from the riser section at the bottom, all the way to the dry head at the top... there is no boundary where the bubbles all get large or something. Thats a very nice collection cup... as close to perfect as you can ask for.

[njb2345]

The skimmer was very easy to install... After that one picture i raised it up a little bit and fill up that collection cup in one day.. It was like a light coffee color. (sorry i could take any pics of it, i was running late for my fishing trip lol) I still have it little wetter till it breaks in but i will take another picture of it tonight when i get home from work...

But so far this skimmer is doing wonders on my SPS tank, the water has not been this clear ever...

Like i said before the construction on this skimmer is just built very solid and good. Plus a huge benefit is that if the pump does go bad it only cost like $200 something... Not like the other brands where the pumps cost $400+ and there are multiply pumps on them...

I will keep everyone posted and keep the question coming if you have any...

Nick

[ReefArtist]

Thanks for all your work guys. I'm watching this thread very closely as this is the skimmer I like and so far it looks good. A few things I would change but over all I like it over the competition.

[njb2345]

ReefArtist- no problem.. i am just take the pics as it is doing its own thing lol....

[njb2345]

Here are some new pics.... I cleaned the skimmer Sunday after lunchtime, so these pics are about 24 hours time frame...

This one just shows how well the bubble diffuser works....
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer7.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer1.jpg

Now i am did adjust it to skim a little wetter just to pull out more stuff and let the break-in proceed..

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer2.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer3.jpg

[njb2345]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer5.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer6.jpg

In this pic you can see where I silicone the metric pipe to our standard size pipe over here... No big deal at all...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer4.jpg

Here is some nice stuff in the collection cup...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/2skimmer8.jpg

[Tagareef]

Nick,

Looking real nice...thanks for the new pics. How many gallons is in your system? Also, can you tell me what size the input (feed) fitting is?

Luis

[njb2345]

Luis,

Oh no problem about the pics... I'll try to keep them coming just as long as i can find time :).... My system is about 250 net gallons...

The input feed comes with 2 fittings, one is for 1 inch and the other one is for 1 1/4 (i think... Jeremy can confrim...) ... My box is in my atic..

Tomorrow I will try to take some more pics of my tank and corals... But the system is 95% SPS's....

Nick

[Tagareef]

Nick,

Thanks for the info. With that size input, a gravity feed shouldn't be a problem on my existing set-up.

I am curious to know what skimmer you had on your system before. If you would rather not say, you con PM me!

Luis

[hahnmeister]

Thats what a nice stable head should look like... wow... Im amazed.... just look at it... no bubbles collapsing/combining in the neck (you would see large bubbles forming)... but none of that... Sweet skimmer.

[njb2345]

Tagareef - nope i don't think it would be a problem at all, i know many people run the deltecs and other ones with a gravity feed...

hahnmeister- yea i am still impressed myself and sometimes i can't believe it and it is at my house hehe...

I will try my best to keep the pics coming...

Nick

[njb2345]

Ok guys here are some more pics... Sorry for the same angles and what not... She does give me much to shoot ;)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/3skimmer1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/3skimmer2.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/3skimmer3.jpg

And here are some cross tank shots, my tank was alway clear but never this clear.... And it is alot better in person but i was using a crappy lense...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/3skimmer4.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/3skimmer5.jpg

[pwhitby]

thanks....those pics are great.

I ordered mine today for my 600g.

Paul.

[njb2345]

pwhitby- oh no problem.... please post some pics after you get yours going also... This is def. a great skimmer...

Nick

[jnarowe]

water clarity is awesome! :thumbsup:

[njb2345]

jnarowe- thanks buddy.... the clearer the water is, the more lights gets to the corals :)....

[46bfinGA]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10109771#post10109771 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
Hey, Jeremy, when are they going to appear on the Premium website? Shouldn't they be in stock any day now?

+1

[hahnmeister]

So I have a question... is this skimmer made by 'ORCA' skimmers, or is the ORCA all over the box simply due to the pump?

[JPA]

So when will they be on the site and what is the final price?

Thanks,
Joe

[ssbreef]

that skimmer looks amazing!

[ostrow]

hahn that is going to confuse a lot of people and somehting will have to give. Orca skimmers is a completely different company. Sequence manufactures this one and calls it Orca like their pump.

I would imagine this duplicate naming won't last long.

[yaktop]

I'm in the market for a 500+ skimmer. this looks like a contender. Nick still please I assume. one thing that I thought was amazing with the Bubble KIng when I saw it at a Macna was you could stick your hand in and the extra tension in the water wouldnt break the bubbles. Does this one do that? seems if it can then the micros are unstoppable.

I need to go back through the thread but did this comes complete out of the box? pump included?

thanks in advance.

[njb2345]

ostrow is correct.. the skimmer is made by Sequence...

Here are some pics from June 13th. They are the next day from the pics above without a cleaning...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/4skimmer1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/4skimmer2.jpg

[njb2345]

yaktop - oh def still pleased with the skimmer, today is a complete week i have had it and the tank is looking better and better everyday... If you look at the last pic in this post, that was after my arm was in the tank for about 5 mins moving some corals around while the fishes were sleeping... The skimmer does come with everything when you get it but you just have to connect all the parts to it.. It takes like 5 to 10 mins to complete it after you recieve it... No big deal at all..

Here are some pics from this morning... Skimmer was cleaned at night on the 13th...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/5skimmer1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/5skimmer2.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/5skimmer3.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/5skimmer4.jpg

This one pic is for you yaktop:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/5skimmer5.jpg

[ostrow]

I thought the pump was a separate purchase.

[jnarowe]

wow...the bubble size and density is really amazing. I can only aspire to such a nice foam head. :)

[njb2345]

ostrow - nope the pump comes with the skimmer.... So in his pricing that includes the pump.... They do have it where you can purchase it without the pump but that is a different price...

jnarowe- yea tell me about it...i been very impressed with the skimmer so far...

Nick

[Saldarya]

Nick,

Can you please confirm the overall height is 32" and in addition, how much more room would I need to remove the cup? Stand is 34" inside height. Can I make it?

Thanks!!

[njb2345]

Saldarya- yep the total is exactly 32 inches... You would be cutting it close to 34 but should make it with leaving the screws in... If you take them out then you will have no problem at all getting the cup off...

Nick

[Jeremy B.]

Bobby,

I just went out and did some measuring, and it would be tight, however you could still get the cup off without completely removing the nylon screws.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[pwhitby]

Hi Jeremy, do you have an arrival date on the next batch of skimmers?

[Jeremy B.]

Hi Paul,

I am supposed to hear back either today or at the lastest tomorrow a more "definite" date on eta of these things. As soon as I hear something I will post here.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[xinumaster]

Hi Jeremy,

What type of acrylic is the cylinder made of? And what is the foot print including the pump?

[46bfinGA]

Whats the price without the pump?

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10165504#post10165504 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xinumaster
Hi Jeremy,

What type of acrylic is the cylinder made of? And what is the foot print including the pump?

The skimmer is made of cell cast acrylic, not extruded. Footprint including the pump at the fursthest points are 20.75" x 15.5".

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10176811#post10176811 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 46bfinGA
Whats the price without the pump?

The body only is $1199 for intro pricing, then will go to $1299 after the intro pricing is lifted. The skimmer with pump is intro at $1299 and will go to $1499 after intro pricing is over.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[jnarowe]

and it's rated for how many gallons at what bio-load?

[Jeremy B.]

We are saying up to 1000gal. I have personally had it on 550 - 600gal that is extremely heavily loaded and it has held that system with flying colors. I had an RC1000 on the same exact tank setting next to it, and it's pretty much shut that skimmer down.

[jnarowe]

Great Price for that kind of performance IMO. I sure wish I could get one of those NW for my 4300. If I ever replace my DIY skimmer with a commercial one, this one would be at the top of my list, particularly if one with a 1500 - 2000g rating came out.

[Jeremy B.]

I have not been able to find a skimmer on the market that would compete with this unit for price vs performance that is commercially built. The closest I could find is the MTC HSA 3000, and that unit would actually still cost just a little more with a really big pump on it.

[xinumaster]

I think I got room in my cabinet for that skimmer. Is the intro price still available? I would like to order the skimmer at intro price?

[ReefArtist]

I know nothing about gravity feed systems but I would like to know if this can be ran by gravity? I'm putting my system together now and someone was talking to me about getting a protein skimmer that would work with gravity or pump.

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10178188#post10178188 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xinumaster
I think I got room in my cabinet for that skimmer. Is the intro price still available? I would like to order the skimmer at intro price?

Yes, intro price is still available. Give me a call when you get time, 317-895-9005.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[Jeremy B.]

Reef Artist - Pretty much any of the recirc skimmers can work off of a gravity feed. This unit would be just fine gravity fed, as long as you can get up to 250/300gph minimum to it.

[ReefArtist]

Ho - that is wonderful! Thanks for the prompt answers - this seems to be a great system at a price we all can live with!

[jnarowe]

don't make them think it's too inexpensive! :D

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10178563#post10178563 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
don't make them think it's too inexpensive! :D

I agree! :D

Actually, I remember 6-7yrs ago, before Deltec got popular in the US, it seemed that if you spent $500 - $600 for a skimmer (minus pump) you were spending a ton! Once Deltec found their way into the US market, other European manufacturers followed suit, and the days of inexpensive downdraft / beckett skimmers ruling the market were over, and hobbyists spending upwards of $2500+ on big skimmers is common place. One of the most exciting things I have found about this skimmer is that it performs neck and neck, and in most cases better (depending on which models we're comparing) than these $2000 and on up skimmers, at a fraction of the cost to them.

[yaktop]

I'm confirmed. I've done alot of business with PA in the past and trust Jeremy's endorsement of the product. It looks like the best choice for a large(r) tank - price, performance etc.

[pwhitby]

Maybe we need an official Orca Skimmer club.

[hahnmeister]

But ORCA was the name for this skimmer company before Sequence named the Dart NW that... so alot of people might get confused between ReefFlo's ORCA and ORCA systems...

www.protein-skimmer.com

[pwhitby]

then we can be the Official Reeflo Skimmer Owners Club

[yaktop]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10180787#post10180787 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pwhitby
then we can be the Official Reeflo Skimmer Owners Club

this thread may be it (at least for now) :D

[ostrow]

I agree Hahn. If Orca Systems registered their name then I'd throw a stink if I were them. But they may not have.

[njb2345]

Hey everyone.... Sorry for no post latley. I been on vacation and a little busy.. Just want to let everyone know that the skimmer is still doing great and i'll get you some more pics soon...

Nick

[Jeremy B.]

I finally was able to get an air reading on mine. At 120watts the pump is pulling right at 33lpm, which equates to 1980lph.

For comparison:

Reeflo ORCA 250 - 1980lph / $1299 ($1499 after intro price)
Deltec AP902 - 1600lph / $1869
Deltec AP1003 - 2250lph / $3275
Bubble King 300 - 1999lph / $2699
Bubble King 400 - 2499lph / $3999
H&S - Couldn't find any stated numbers on these.
ER RC750 - 3000lph / $2000
ER RC1000 - 3600lph / $2500

The EuroReef numbers are great, but to give comparison the Reeflo was set up on the exact same system as the RC1000, and basically shut this skimmer down over a period of about a month or so. I still feel like the valve on the venturi is restricting this guy by about 250lph, but I do not yet have a replacement valve as a backup so that I can start chopping on this thing. Having said that, in stock form this thing totally kicks butt, and unless you're one of those guys who wants to tinker and play, there is absolutely no modification needed at all!

[ostrow]

One of "THOSE GUYS" ?!? Oh, no, not one of THOSE! :)

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10194146#post10194146 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
One of "THOSE GUYS" ?!? Oh, no, not one of THOSE! :)

huh?

[ostrow]

It's the main reason I can't buy this skimmer.... I'd mess it up with my stupid tinkering!

[ReefArtist]

Yeah - and it's perfect for me - I want to plug it in and forget it! Then spend that extra time on my hands watching everything grow! As you can tell - yes I'm getting one.

[Jeremy B.]

I just wanted to let everyone know that the skimmer is now online here....

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CV-OCT-ORCA&Category_Code=

Thanks,
Jeremy

[yaktop]

Jeremey, I thought the watt draw was 120W ?

[Deepsea2005]

I just ordered one from Jeremy, too.
Look like we have an excellent skimmer.

[tony13]

Looks like a great skimmer. I'll have to swing by and check it out one day Nick. You'll be fragging in no time.:)

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10194732#post10194732 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yaktop
Jeremey, I thought the watt draw was 120W ?

That is correct, it is 120watts, I will get the website updated this afternoon.

[pwhitby]

Do we have an ETA yet Jeremy?

[Jeremy B.]

Yes, still solid on the second week of July, let's say around the 13th - 16th range.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[kouz]

Hi Jeremy,

Is it possible to change the collection cup to those that twist to fit in like those offer by bubbleking and H&S skimmer rather then the screw in collection cup?

[yaktop]

I agree, gotta due something with the cup drain.

is there an ozone port already installed?

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10204252#post10204252 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kouz
Hi Jeremy,

Is it possible to change the collection cup to those that twist to fit in like those offer by bubbleking and H&S skimmer rather then the screw in collection cup?

Unfortunately no. The key holed screws were chosen to keep costs down on the skimmer. There are only 8 screws in all, and you only need to turn them about 3 turns each to get the cup off, as you do not remove the screws all the way. It takes me about 15 - 20 seconds literally to unscrew them all enough to remove the cup.

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10204808#post10204808 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yaktop
I agree, gotta due something with the cup drain.

is there an ozone port already installed?

There is a plug that comes with the skimmer for the cup drain, so you do not have to use that if you don't want to.

There is not an ozone port installed on the skimmer already, however you could easily inject through the venturi if you wanted to.

[njb2345]

Like Jeremy said the screws are very simple to use and no big deal at all..

Here are some new pics of the skimmer. Sorry they are not the best...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/IMG_4597.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/IMG_4598.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/IMG_4599.jpg

Nick

[Jeremy B.]

The skimmers are on pallets and shipping out to me today, so I am hoping to either have them next Tuesday (July 3rd), or at the latest Thursday (July 5th). We will ship these beasts right out the door as the pallets are dropped off!

Thanks,
Jeremy

[njb2345]

That is great new Jeremy... Now more people can see what we ar seeing with the skimmer.... Here is a little taste guys...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/6skimmer1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/6skimmer2.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/6skimmer3.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/6skimmer4.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/njb2345/6skimmer5.jpg

Nick

[pwhitby]

WOOOOHHHOOOOOO
I cant wait. I cant run my tank much longer without a skimmer. the water changes are killing me.

P.

[jnarowe]

I still don't really understand this one element of skimmer design. Why do so many manufacturers put those close-to-the-neck lids on their cups? All I can see is that it would put downward pressure on the foam head and restrict skimming. And they are a PITA to clean too!

[mkarston]

Jeremy and/or Nick,

I have been following this thread and am currently in the market for a new skimmer for my tank.
I have a few questions I was hoping you could answer:

1. Would this be a gross overkill on a 210 gal display with 265 gal total water volume? Med to heavily stocked.

2. How far up is the return pipe? I an concerned with how high it needs to be to clear the side of my sump wall. What is height of its range (lowest setting, to the highest).

3. How is the noise? Is it pretty quiet, I too would have it plumbed to sit next to tank outside the cabinet.

Thanks,
Craig

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10250700#post10250700 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mkarston
Jeremy and/or Nick,

I have been following this thread and am currently in the market for a new skimmer for my tank.
I have a few questions I was hoping you could answer:

1. Would this be a gross overkill on a 210 gal display with 265 gal total water volume? Med to heavily stocked.

2. How far up is the return pipe? I an concerned with how high it needs to be to clear the side of my sump wall. What is height of its range (lowest setting, to the highest).

3. How is the noise? Is it pretty quiet, I too would have it plumbed to sit next to tank outside the cabinet.

Thanks,
Craig

1. I honestly do not think it would be way overkill, however I have always been a big fan of putting large skimmers on tanks too. It will however be more skimmer than what you would ever need on that size tank. If you compare it to the Deltec that would be recommended for your tank, such as the AP701 which retails for $1079, then you're only $220 over the price of Deltec, and getting a heck of a lot more skimmer to boot that you can grow with. If you "never" plan on upgrading to a larger system though, then it might be wise to just go with something smaller and save the money for something else. You could grow quite a bit with this skimmer though and not have any worries at all.

2. The bottom of the return pipe is at 18". This is a fixed height, and you would not be able to alter this unless you wanted to try some gate valve modification with it and lower it some. After you come out of the "T" fitting then you could lower it as much as you want, but you really can't go any higher than what it is at now.

3. The skimmer is extremely quiet, to where you can't even hear it running unless you're in a room that is completely silent and you're right up on top of it.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[njb2345]

I totally agree with Jeremy... I have always love putting bigger skimmers on smaller tanks...

Also the measurements that he gave are dead on... I don't see a problem at all...

Nick

[mkarston]

Thank you both for the info.

[njb2345]

No problem...

Jemery - i will be calling you later to order the second one ;).... shh don't tell anyone lol...

[Jeremy B.]

The skimmers are all shipping out the door today to everyone who has ordered so far! If any of you have any questions on setup, or anything else please let me know!

Thanks again!
Jeremy

[Tagareef]

Hi Jeremy,

That's great news. :D

Can you ship mine to me NEXT DAY AIR and put those shipping charges on Nick's Platinum card?!?!? :rollface: (J/K...this is partially his fault anyway!)

Thanks,

Luis

[Jeremy B.]

Let's have Nick take care of next day air for everyone!!! ;)

[Tagareef]

Holy Cr@p...I just received 3 UPS shipping confirmations!!!

The three boxes equal.........95.2 lbs!!!!! :eek1: I may have to reinforce the spot I am putting this on.

I assume 1 box each for body, plumbing and pump.

(cough, cough) I think I'm coming down with something (cough, cough) I may have to call in sick next Monday! (cough, cough):lol:

[jnarowe]

you definitely sound ill to me, and may need the whole week off to recuperate. :D

[njb2345]

lol no problem about the next day charges... I am just hope everyone is as happy as i am with it.... I am so happy i am ordering another one... I meant to today but lost track at time at work lol....

Keep the questions coming when everyone receives theirs and def. post some pics...

Nick

[Ironfan]

Got any pics of the plumbing? Interested to see how you plumbed it up

[pwhitby]

Im getting a lot of questions from guys in my club, and I know one has already bought one already....

I have the spot ready, the area cleaned, the plumbing laid.

Maybe we should have a prize for the first one installed and running on monday morning....

[Ironfan]

does this skimmer require a feed pump? or can I run it straight from an overflow drain? Is this an external skimmer only?

[Deepsea2005]

I just installed my skimmer in a temp location.

Jeremy,

I turned the air valve wide open 100%, was that right?
what are the 2 small white screws for?
What is the extra pipe that goes with the pump for?
Here are 2 pics:

http://members.cox.net/chris.huynh/khanh/reeflofull.jpg

http://members.cox.net/chris.huynh/khanh/reefloneck.jpg

[njb2345]

Deepsea2005- The air valve wide open is fine... Just keep the water level a little lower till it breaks in...

The 2 small screws are for the fittings that screw into the pump. They hold those gray pieces still... You should see the 2 small holes..

The extra pipe is just as you said, extra just in case you wanted to run it differently.

The pics looks good and keep the questions coming guys...

Nick

[njb2345]

Ironfan- you can run it thru an overflow and yes the skimmer is external. The pump can't be place in the water...

Nick

[Deepsea2005]

Thanks Nick.

How can I adjust the water level?

Thanks,

[njb2345]

Deepsea2005- you want to keep around 400 gallons per hour flowing thru the skimmer. But to adjust the water level. You see the pipe that says open and close. Well you need to slowly twist that so the close is near the T part... The closer near the T the more it closes and the more water stays in the skimmer

Nick

[Deepsea2005]

Got it.
Thanks again Nick.

[ranran]

Deepsea so you just got yours up and running what are your first thoughts of the skimmer? How loud whould you say the skimmer is? What feed pump are you using? How did you return the water to your sump, and how did you control the splash effect?
Sorry for all the questions but i have been thinking about changing my skimmer also. With that said what skimmer were you running before this and please give us some performence updates this week.

[pwhitby]

Nick/Deepsea...

Would you mind posting (if you have it) a picture of the water inlet on the skimmer. Also, what size pipe is it? I am wanting to get the feed made up and ready prior to the skimmer arrival.

Thanks,

paul.

[njb2345]

double post.....

[njb2345]

Deepsea2005- no problem buddy, ask all the questions you need.

pwhitby - the inlet to the skimmer is a barb fitting. You can either use 1 inch or 1 1/4... I will try to get you a pic soon...

Nick

[ranran]

Hey nick so how much nog are you pulling with the new skimmer daily and what skimmer did you replace it with/

[Jeremy B.]

Hey Guys.... I've been away from the board for a couple of days, my apologies.

Nick, thank you very much for helping out, I greatly appreciate it!

[ranran]

Hey Jeremy i hear there is free shipping on all sequence skimmers this week! Sign me up!

[Deepsea2005]

Here is a picture of the skimmer in the permanent location.
Randy and Paul,
My previous skimmer was MRC3 Recirculation. It was a good skimmer but I want a bigger one, so I can have more fish.
So far, the Reeflo is perfect. The pump is relatively quiet.
I use mag5 with ¾ inch pipe to feed the skimmer and calcium reactor.
I angle the return water pipe so there is no splash.
Over all, I give this one a thump up.
One thing I’m concerned is customer service.
Jeremy,
Do you handle it yourself or we have to deal with the company.
By the way, who make the Reeflo skimmer?

Thanks,

http://members.cox.net/chris.huynh/khanh/reeflo3.JPG

[Tagareef]

Deepsea2005, Nice installation!


Do you guys think there will be any issues with cleaning since it doesn't look like you can disassemble the lower part of the skimmer?

[ostrow]

I can guarantee you that there will be no problems with customer service. MDM/Sequence is top-notch -- they stand by their products. I'm looking into a Bubblemaster and just saw their lousy warranty -- 3 months and only 6 months on the pumps.

You have both a long warranty and a company (and store) that stand by their products/customers.

Sleep well. (And note, this is from Dr. Good Luck Himself -- I know a thing or two about failed products. Sequence took terrific care of me and my Hammerhead pump when I needed it).

[Jeremy B.]

ranran - Of course, but with the free shipping we have to sell it for $1399, not $1299! ;)

Deepsea2005 - We are doing the warranty / customer service on the unit. If there is a pump problem, that is something Reeflo would most likely want to handle themselves though.

The body is being built by an OEM for Reeflo.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[Deepsea2005]

Thanks Jeremy.
Jeremy/Nick, how is the air valve work?
Should I leave it wide open or should I close it a little bit?

Thanks,

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10302495#post10302495 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Deepsea2005
Thanks Jeremy.
Jeremy/Nick, how is the air valve work?
Should I leave it wide open or should I close it a little bit?

Thanks,

Leave the valve wide open! There is no need to restrict the airflow on this unit at all.

[ranran]

Jeremy could you pm me a shipping price for sending the unit aircargo to PDX Portland OR I would get the unit the next day and i think it would cost about the same as ups ground.


Any nog updates on how muck gunk these are pulling?

[Jeremy B.]

PM Sent!

[yaktop]

got the skimmer today, looks pretty rugged. tanks next week though :(

the ups emails had three boxes but the labels showed 1 of 2 and 2 of 2. are there three?

[Jeremy B.]

There should have only been two boxes total. I'm not sure if the UPS email freaked out when it shipped or what, but you only need two boxes! :)

[pwhitby]

Ive got SKIMMMMMMMMMMATE...........

My UPS shipping said 3 boxes as well.

Skimmers up and running and is virtually silent. i do need to do a few tweaks on my plumbing and build a better stand foir the skimmer so it can effectively dump into my sump, but all in all.....this baby rocks.

Paul.

[njb2345]

pwhitby- very good to hear.....

I can't wait till my second one gets here lol....

[ranran]

I pulled the trigger on it they should be taking it to the airport today or tomorrow to send it out to me.
of course i will be sharing feed back when i get it.

[njb2345]

Great to hear guys.. Make sure you post your pics..

Nick

[Deepsea2005]

Here is the result in 24 hours from my 400g system.
http://members.cox.net/chris.huynh/khanh/reeflo4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/chris.huynh/khanh/reeflo5.jpg

[njb2345]

Looks good so far.... How far up is the level in the skimmer? Meaning the water?

Nick

[Jeremy B.]

Same question here, how high is your water level in the skimmer? I would think that if you're pulling out that much gunk in the first 24hrs of use, I would recommend running the skimmate a little more wet to help and try clean the system up some. If it's still at the same level as your first photos when you just got it set up, then the water level is definitely running on the low side inside the skimmer. HTH

[Deepsea2005]

Jeremy and Nick,

I let the return pipe wide open (100%).
When I turn off the feeding pump (mag5), the water level is above the word REEFLO but a little under the body circle line.
Please show me how to maximize this skimmer.
By the way, that was not the first 24 hrs, I already cleaned the cup once on Sunday.

[Jeremy B.]

The water level needs to be up in the neck, not in the reaction chamber, or in the cone leaving up to the neck. I would start it an inch into the neck, then tune up from there.

[njb2345]

Ok don't shut off the return pump / feed pump. Unplug or trun off all the air to the dart. Then give it a like 30 seconds and see where the water level is. What i would do since it is so new and not really broken in is raise it a couple of inches only at one time. But at the end of breakin you want it near or above the screws by the neck...

Let me know if that makes sense..

Nick

[njb2345]

lol Jeremy beat me to it....

[Deepsea2005]

Jeremy and Nick,

Thank you. I will do it to night when I get home.

[Deepsea2005]

Jeremy and Nick,
I did as you told.
I set the water level up to the neck.
I checked this morning before I went to work, the nog was 1/2 inch in the cup.
Did I do it right?

Thanks,

Khanh

[Jeremy B.]

Khanh-

Yes, now you can keep adjusting from there. I personally would run the skimmate a little more wet to start off witih, so set the water level right at the black flange where the cup lifts off at. If this is too wet, you can always back it off just a little.

[njb2345]

Exactly what Jemery said...

[Deepsea2005]

Jeremy and Nick,

I raised the water a little more up to the black flange.
It works perfect.
You are the best.
Thanks again.

Khanh,

[njb2345]

no problem....

[ranran]

Jeremy B
Did my skimmer get droped off at the airport today?
I have not received a email with a aircargo #yet

[ranran]

I think I read that a feed pump of 400 gallons an hour is the ideal size is that correct? has anyone tried to run more through it? My total system size is just at 400 gallons and i would like to turn more like 1.5 or 2 times total tank per hour through the skimmer.

[Jeremy B.]

Randy,

I think Luke got everything straightened out with you on the shipment, correct?

400-600gph would be optimal for flow through on the skimmer.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[ranran]

Yes on the shipping, so you dont think 600 gallons would be to much i was thinking about feeding it with a ehim1260

[Tagareef]

Randy,

I am gravity feeding a little over 700gph thru the skimmer and seems to be working well during break in. My system is about 350g net. I am going to experiment with less flow to see how it affects performance. My ORP has gone from 380 to 420 since installing the skimmer on Monday evening!!!

Luis

[ryannat1]

Ha ha you couldnt resist could you Randy! Cant wait to see that on your tank :) Later Ryan

[Jeremy B.]

Luis,

Glad to hear you are doing that successfully. I was wondering if someone was going to hook one up that way. Keep us updated on how it's working!

[pwhitby]

I connected mine via gravity feed, the tank is a 600g reef reasonably well stocked. The skimmer takes all the water from one of the two overflows.

Within 30 mins there was a clearly defined green foam layer forming. After 1 hr there was an inch or so. Overnight the entire top of the column was a mass of dark dry foam that just gets pushed up and over into the cup.

The foam is very stable, doesnt collapse when the lid is lifted. In fact you could probably scoop it out it is that thick.

A most definite two thumbs up.....

now this may be just wishful thinking, but I am sure my water looks clearer.

P.

[jnarowe]

feeding phyto Paul?

[Jeremy B.]

Keep it crankin' Paul, you're going to love this thing once it breaks in, if not already! :)

[pwhitby]

you mean it will work even better than it is now?????????

[janderson8]

Just got mine yesterday all hooked up and running great. I am very excited to see this new skimmer running!!!

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10328315#post10328315 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pwhitby
you mean it will work even better than it is now?????????

My unit reached peak performance at about the 3 week mark. Of course, I was tinkering with it a lot too, I seem to have that problem! lol

[Jeremy B.]

I have received word that I should be expecting a prototype for a smaller Reeflo within the next 4-5 weeks. This unit will incorporate a Snapper needlewheel, rather than a Dart needlewheel, and will be smaller in diameter and in height. I will keep everyone posted on the unit as I get more updates!

[Fiziksgeek]

Geeze...I wish the new sequence skimmer came out 6 or 8 months earlier. I ditched my power hungry dual beckett for a Deltec 851, but for a little more $$ I could of gotten one of these...hmmmm....wonder how much I can get for my used 851...hmmm.....

The 851 is nice, but it doesnt match the performance of the dual beckett, but it does draw about 1/5 of the electricity. Looks like the sequence skimmer might be a better fit, and still draws ~1/3 of the the power of the dual beckett!

[ranran]

So I got the skimmer yesterday and its a beast! Got it set up and running to break in for a while. my first question is my only feed pump i had available is rated at 740 gallons thats almost double compared to what Jeremy has been recomending. and it might be the reason I am geeting large turbulant bubbles on top.
here are a couple of pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer017.jpg

[ranran]

You think I need to cut back the flow or just wait to see if it breaks in more?

[pwhitby]

Mine looked like that on start up, then after an hour a stable head of foam developed.

I would take the easy option for now, let it break in a little more and then, if still like that, slow the flow a little.

[ranran]

Yep i played with the water level a little bit and now rocking the foam.

[pwhitby]

heres what I am getting:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1336/799950019_673c38f725.jpg

Paul.

[ranran]

Hey quite showing off!! I just turned mine off and tinkerd with the plumbing I had one small drip from the out take of the pump. and i also added some teflon tape to the pressure fitting on the water return. Should be up and running again soon.

I will post some pics sunday of my first night of skimming.

[victor90]

jeremy
I was wondering when is the last day for the sale
thanks

[njb2345]

Very nice guys.... I got my second one installed and it is doing great :)....

Nick

[ranran]

second one?? your a skimmer junkie! Mine is settled in and skimming very well.

[njb2345]

lol yes.. i got one for my other sps tank.... :)

Don't tell the wife and I am glad yours is skimming good..

Nick

[ranran]

You know I got a forty gallon frag tank i been looking for a new skimmer to replace my tunze 9010 with hhmmmm

[ranran]

OK so here my take on the new ReefFlo skimmer.
First let me say that premium aquatics was easy to work with and buying and shipping the skimmer was a breeze.
Speaking of shipping i want to add that if you live near an airport check out air cargo as a shipping option. It ran me $60 for overnight shipping using aircargo! Ups would of ran me at least that and took four days to get to me.

The skimmer comes in two boxes one is the skimmer and one is the pump.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer015.jpg




I am feeding my skimmer and bleeding a little off to my CA reactor with a sea line 740 gallon per hour pump and i must say the flow through the skimmer is fine it is easyly handling the water i am putting through it. With my system being around 350 gal i wanted about twice the turn over per hour through the skimmer.

[ranran]

It took me about an hour to set up the skimmer wet test it drain it and place it in my sump. like most skimmers the instructions are lagging in detail. its mostly just a diagram that comes with the skimmer no actual instructions.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer016.jpg

[ranran]

Once it was installed under my tank it only took about 12 hours to break in. i did nothing to prep the skimmer but wet test it once with fresh water.
The first 12hours the bubbles in the neck looked like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer018.jpg




but in time turned into this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer019.jpg

[ranran]

Now it has been skimming since Saturday around 1pm and it is know Monday 7pm and my collection cup is getting some nog!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer020.jpg

[ranran]

I am very happy with the skimmer and think it is well worth the $$ I would give it a 8-10 with 10 being the best.
Better instructions for set up and get rid of the thumb screws and this beast would be a 10!

[njb2345]

ranran - very good to hear..... It seems like the skimmer is doing wonders for you :).... Keep the pics coming...

[jnarowe]

well, someone with good writing skills should hook them up with proper instructions.

[JRaquatics]

Jeremy can you give any specs of the smaller version and a estimate in price. When will it be available?

[pwhitby]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10356451#post10356451 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
well, someone with good writing skills should hook them up with proper instructions.

I wrote a review for our club, you can see it here:

http://www.mycomas.com/content/view/101/87/

I added some information for people who were building one of these that were not covered by the instructions.

Paul.

[yaktop]

wow, great review. Jeremey he's right better instructions etc. use this guy :)

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10348283#post10348283 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by victor90
jeremy
I was wondering when is the last day for the sale
thanks

As of right now we do not have a definite end date, we have only been going by batches. We have said we are only going to offer the first batch on discount, in which we have just a few left.

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10357516#post10357516 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
Jeremy can you give any specs of the smaller version and a estimate in price. When will it be available?

I can't give any specs on the smaller version yet, I apologize, we have to keep that secret a little longer! ;) We are hoping to have it available in about two months.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[jnarowe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10357641#post10357641 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pwhitby
I wrote a review for our club, you can see it here:

http://www.mycomas.com/content/view/101/87/

I added some information for people who were building one of these that were not covered by the instructions.

Paul.

Yeah I read the review and it looks good. Just a few spelling and grammar errors, and I think to employ it as "instructional", you would have to break up the steps better. WIth that said, I would certainly put a link to it on future shipments until they can get their instruction set beefed up.

Over the course of my involvement in the hobby, I have found some rather bizzare instructions from key players in the business. One I don't think I will ever forget is the Deltec/Merk PO4 testing kit that states to use a level spoon of the granular reactant, only the spoon is curved. There is no way to get it level!

Good feedback for Jeremy et. al. I have a buddy that writes (translates) a lot of Rena stuff and it can be a PITA.

[Jeremy B.]

When I opened up the first one that come that Nick purchased, I was blown away at the directions. I thought "what in the world is this". We're working on some new instructions to include in the shipments right now!

Thanks,
Jeremy

[njb2345]

Yes the directions are bad... But me being me i really didn't read them. I just looked at the pic and put it together...

I am a very bad example i know lol...

Nick

[jnarowe]

and really, mosty of us do that until we hear the "crack"...:lol:

[bond007069]

What is the air draw on this skimmer?

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10359050#post10359050 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bond007069
What is the air draw on this skimmer?

3000 - 3500 LPH is what you should actually see on the unit.

[Deepsea2005]

Jeremy,

Could you explain more for me about the air draw?
Is it the more ....LPH the better?

Thanks,

Khanh

[Jeremy B.]

Sometimes yes, but that's not always the case. You want to try and match up to gal/hr of air proportionately to the gal/hr of water going through the system. If you have too much air vs water flow, then you lose efficiency, and same situation if you have too much water and not enough air.

[KurtsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10192443#post10192443 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy B.
I finally was able to get an air reading on mine. At 120watts the pump is pulling right at 33lpm, which equates to 1980lph.

For comparison:

Reeflo ORCA 250 - 1980lph / $1299 ($1499 after intro price)
Deltec AP902 - 1600lph / $1869
Deltec AP1003 - 2250lph / $3275
Bubble King 300 - 1999lph / $2699
Bubble King 400 - 2499lph / $3999
H&S - Couldn't find any stated numbers on these.
ER RC750 - 3000lph / $2000
ER RC1000 - 3600lph / $2500

The EuroReef numbers are great, but to give comparison the Reeflo was set up on the exact same system as the RC1000, and basically shut this skimmer down over a period of about a month or so. I still feel like the valve on the venturi is restricting this guy by about 250lph, but I do not yet have a replacement valve as a backup so that I can start chopping on this thing. Having said that, in stock form this thing totally kicks butt, and unless you're one of those guys who wants to tinker and play, there is absolutely no modification needed at all!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10359518#post10359518 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy B.
3000 - 3500 LPH is what you should actually see on the unit.

There is a big difference between 1980 and 3000-3500. Which statement is in error?

[Jeremy B.]

You're right, I was reading my air meter wrong. It's 33-35lpm i am getting, which is actually hovering around 2000lph. I was equating the 33-35lpm to hundreds.

[bond007069]

Correct me if i am wrong but the Bubblemaster 250 puts in 1200 lph of air x 2 pumps, so total of 2400 lph of air at $750.00 and 80 watts.

Seems like the Dart should pull a lot more :)

[KurtsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10373094#post10373094 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy B.
You're right, I was reading my air meter wrong. It's 33-35lpm i am getting, which is actually hovering around 2000lph. I was equating the 33-35lpm to hundreds.

Thanks Jeremy. Looking hard at those lph readings...

[Jeremy B.]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10374041#post10374041 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bond007069
Correct me if i am wrong but the Bubblemaster 250 puts in 1200 lph of air x 2 pumps, so total of 2400 lph of air at $750.00 and 80 watts.

Seems like the Dart should pull a lot more :)


In my opinion there is A LOT left to be had in the Dart pump if you really wanted to get into DIY with it, but the current water flow vs air flow mixture is pretty darn spot on. However, I will tell you that the Reeflo would absolutely run circles around a BM 250, the comparison would not even be a comparison between the two skimmers.

Don't look so hard at the lph numbers all of the time. Just because one skimmer pump has more lph of air injected than the next does not by any means make that a more efficient skimmer. Finding the balance of air vs water is what you're after, and producing that mixture with a stable foam head.

We sell the Bubble Master's as well, and I do like them, however I do feel that there are better performing skimmers out there, and the Reeflo is most certainly one of them.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10377642#post10377642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jeremy B.


Don't look so hard at the lph numbers all of the time. Just because one skimmer pump has more lph of air injected than the next does not by any means make that a more efficient skimmer. Finding the balance of air vs water is what you're after, and producing that mixture with a stable foam head.


This is what I have been trying to explain to people. It is true that the pump makes the skimmer, yet if the body is not designed to be optimal then perfomance is lost. In my opinion this skimmer is what I was going to have Orca build me "but in a smaller version". You can tell that after the bubble plate their is minimal turbulance other than the rising of bubbles. The head of foam in the neck prooves this. Finally a body/neck and height ratio that makes sence.

The only real drawback I see is the absence of a drain valve, I hope the apply them to future models.

I am planning on getting the smaller Sequence skimmer when it comes available for my 180 gal as long an it fits my budget.

[hahnmeister]

Yeah, the ATIs are okay, but to compete with the ReefFlo they would have to be 50% taller and 50% larger in diameter to get the same turbulence reduction, head stability, and contact time.

Maybe the BM300 will be the response to this need.

[BreadmanMike]

Jeremy,

Are these in stock now? I'm going to jump on the bandwagon here in the next week or two.

[Jeremy B.]

Mike,

We have a few left in stock, however when those run out we will be receiving another order in, there shouldn't be any delay in getting you one once you're ready.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[ranran]

Here a little nog from four days worth of skimming!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ranran/Skimmer026.jpg

[Jeremy B.]

Looks good Randy, keep us updated with pics of it's progress!

[njb2345]

Very nice.... I'll have to post more pics soon of the 2nd one.... These skimmers are great...

Nick

[ranran]

Did you notice the foam stains on the ceiling of my stand??? just shows you how much air these beast push.

[njb2345]

damn i didn't see that.... That is crazy....

Very nice..... very nice

[Jeremy B.]

I just now noticed that as well, that's awesome!!!

[Untamed12]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10357516#post10357516 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
Jeremy can you give any specs of the smaller version and a estimate in price. When will it be available?

Any plans to make a taller version?

[jnarowe]

Jeremy...what's your opinion on this skimmer for a 1200g system moderately stocked?

[Jeremy B.]

Untamed12 - That is most likely something that will be built in the future, however I wouldn't expect it to happen before the end of winter.

jnarowe - I think it would work, however it might be just a little undersized. I think 800 - 900 moderately stocked would be more accurate.

[jnarowe]

Thanks JB. :)

[BreadmanMike]

Seems like the numbers of this Dart skimmer match those of the BK300, but at almost $1K less(intro price). I realize it's almost 3x the wattage, but the pump costs less then half of the RD replacement for a BK. can the BK really be $1k better of a skimmer?

So I ask those of you who have this skimmer...
Is it a great skimmer or an ok skimmer? :)

[Untamed12]

I don't see a drain valve on the skimmer body. How does one service that pump?

[pwhitby]

The drain pug is my one criticism of the skimmer.

Other than that...its great

[wizsmaster]

that will most likely be my first mod ... drill a hole, and epoxy a drainply into the black box on the bottom.

[jtarmitage]

You don't need to drill a drain for the skimmer body as Sequences pumps have a drain plug just below the intake on the volute.