Resignation

[murfman]

I hereby resign my position in SCMAS as the treasurer. I will no longer be a member of SCMAS however, since this forum is owned by RC, I will continue to post and fellowship with whomever allows me to do so.

The reason I, and so many before me, will not have anything to do with SCMAS is because of one person who is a bully and wants to push his agenda on everyone else.

As Todd stated in the nominations thread, when it no longer becomes fun he will leave, I am leaving because it is no longer fun putting up with the BS and personal attacks.

I want to thank each and every one of you for your support and wish you the best of luck with the club.

Murf

[Deuce67]

Whoa! What the heck just happened here!!??

[clowninaround74]

see i knew it!
im sorry to hear that murf. Your a great guy and this club will loose a good member. Im sorry that things ended up this way. Your a good guy!!!

[normanviking]

That sucks. Sorry to hear that.

[Butchdawg14]

i hate to see it happen murf...

why cant we all be friends.....

so who is taking care of the numbers for the meeting???


i wish you the best of luck MURF!! i hope your still around and can talk to us??

[tall guy]

Murf,
Ya got a PM.

[murfman]

Thanx guys, it's just better this way so there are no conflicts at any of the meetings. I'll still be around and post, I'll still give away my lame frags to newbies too.

[Butchdawg14]

SWEET!!!! Murf you da man!!!!!

[clowninaround74]

lame my a$$!!!! dude i love the frags i have gotten from you! they rock!
o and seascape had that barnacle (spelling?????) blennie still. just thought i would let you know for your ballin pico!

[murfman]

Thanx, Bro!

[Butchdawg14]

well murf so your obvisiously not heading up the meeting count anymore?? who is doing that???

[murfman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9743588#post9743588 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Butchdawg14
well murf so your obvisiously not heading up the meeting count anymore?? who is doing that???

Kevin, I don't know. I have pm'd Robert and Todd about collecting the club money before the meeting on Saturday.

[Butchdawg14]

oh i see alright well sounds good......we will just see what shakes out....

[Caleb Kruse]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9743545#post9743545 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by murfman
Thanx guys, it's just better this way so there are no conflicts at any of the meetings. I'll still be around and post, I'll still give away my lame frags to newbies too.
Those are not lame frags! I love them and they look great in my tank.

[murfman]

There are many who have much better frags than I do. Just look at some of the members tanks in some of the postings, just incredible growth and coloration in the same amount of time as mine has been set up.

[normanviking]

Paul what kind of corals are you talking about trying to color up?

[murfman]

I was talking about Russ' corals, he has the most incredible colors. Mine are "OK" but nothing like he has.

[Huhhhhh]

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You can still stop by anytime for any reason, no excuses I'm only a couple blocks away .

Tim

[murfman]

Thanks, Tim!

[ReefJerk]

Murf, you got a PM

[IsThisNameTaken?]

frags good or bad your definitely one of the most generous reefers I've ever met! Your a good man!

[clowninaround74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9745318#post9745318 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IsThisNameTaken?
frags good or bad your definitely one of the most generous reefers I've ever met! Your a good man!

I second that 10000% your probably the nicest guy i have every meet.....and willing to go out of your way to help a friend.............even if it is a couple of broke college kids!!!! haha

the club is loosing a great person and im sure they will soon understand their losses.

[rekn]

yeah, im bummed. feel free to call

[Deuce67]

This is horse crap that it came down to this. I really hate seeing you go and leave the club. At least you are still with us on the board.

[murfman]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. At this time, for the sake of the club it's better this way.

[LarryW]

well I'm glad your still on the board! You can come over anytime! :D

[reefkoi]

I guess I read it wrong you are still a board member Murf? I thought that was what this post was about, you resigning from the board? Sorry I'm not taking a side I just want to make sure I read it right :)
Chris

[Deuce67]

I think you guys are confusing when I said at least he was still on the board. What I meant was on the forum.

[LarryW]

yeah, when I wrote board, I meant forum, not a scmas board member.

[COreefer]

The "bully" who Murf refers to is me...the problem I have with his post, and his assertions is he takes absolutly no ownership in any of the matters that have occured, rather he portrays himself as the victim. Keep in mind this is an adult male calling another a bully...

Murf has been on the wrong side of the argument a few times, in particular by throwing a falsified email at me and accusing me of something an 4th grader could have figured out I did not do. Instead he pursued this angle, him and Eric slammed me at the only board meeting we had, when our agenda was to work on a framework for the club. Instead they spent the better part of an hour or two pushing this email, pinning me in a corner to defend myself, then they left without getting anything resolved. To add insult to injury, Murf continued to defend the person who gave him the fake email, even after it was proven beyond any doubt this person faked the email...not to mention he put her up to making a post to basically call me out....these are facts, and facts that have only been shared with a few, because I don't work the PM's and emails for the purposes of gossip, I am a straight shooter.

I feel like something needs to be said because I know for a fact there are backdoor PM's and emails going around attacking my character. It seems whenever Murf has the opportunity he takes the low road and creates a behind the scenes gossip session in which I cannot give my side of the story to.

There is much more to the story than what I posted but it is a good example of how he is not as righteous and "bullied" as he claims.

Those of you who have a problem with me, well there will be A) an election very soon, so nominate, run, do what you need to do to take ownership over this club. And B) There is a very good chance I will be moving from C.S. As for Murf and I...this was a matter between us, but for some odd reason he felt compelled to take what were offline matters and spill them top the club...IMO that just once again is an attempt to undermind me and SCMAS.

[rekn]

i thought he was talking about me lol.


i dont see why you would think murf is against the club. last time i was at his house he aasked me why i wasnt at the mereting and how i should show up more. that right there is indication he cares about cmas.


ive been called a bully by marines who kill for a living. saying some ones a bully doesnt make you a victim

[murfman]

So the real Eric finally posts up. I am sure this thread will be shut down today so I will say my piece. You can't try and resolve this privately and insist on making it public, like you did with Keith then here it is, lets make it all public. If anyone wants copies of the emails email me at pjmurphy61@msn.com and I can forward every email I have from the board.

1st off, I want to apologize to Robert, Eric D and Todd. Again I thank you for your diligent, and hard work. What Eric D said in another post about Robert is 100% true, he is the true leader of this club.

I did bring an email that had allegedly been written by and anonymous club member to a woman who had been to one meeting but was interested in joining the club. The meeting in question was held at my house and she asked a question about LFS owners not being able to attend meetings. At the time she asked the question, there had been no "official" resolution to this matter. Let me digress, at the meeting in Castle Rock, back in June, Robert, myself and Eric rode in Eric's truck to CR for a meeting. We discussed the issue of LFs owners attending meetings. This was because at the time, The Haj wanted to come to meetings as a member not as an owner. I convinced them to allow the owners to attend, with stipulations and the signing of a memorandum of agreement between the LFS owner and the club that if the owner violated the MOA they would be asked to leave and not be allowed to return. Eric agreed to this. Robert really didn't hear much of the conversation as he was in the back with the radio on so he only heard bits and pieces. I left for vacation and while I was on vacation Eric decided that they did not want LFS owners to attend as members becausse some previous owner, tried to make the club his and was taking advantage of the club and its members. There was no MOA signed by this person, as far as I know. I was never told of this change in policy and only found out about it after the meeting at my house in Sept.

The person, user name Delta_zeta asked me the question at my house and I told her that I had no good answer and that she should post it up on the forum. Next thing you know she is being personally attacked because she is "instigating" trouble and has a "personal agenda" to try and ruin the club.

A few day later she pm'd me about an alleged email she recieved from a person who had the email user name of Lgreenw@hotmail.com, this is exactly the way it showed up in the email string, btw. It was sent anonymously to her, whomever sent it didn't have the intestinal fortitude to sign it. At the time, if you pulled up Eric L's user profile, it listed his email address as lgreenw@hotmail.com.

Eric D (Calvin) and myself did confront Eric L about this at at board meeting held at Robert's house. He denied sending the email and it was a long drawn out, very heated arguement with accusations flying. All in all, Eric D and I had to leave for other commitments (this meeting was a last minute meeting) so we were only there a little over and hour and a half. Before we left, I apologized to Eric L and the other board members for the accusation of Eric L. sending the email. I thought that was the end of it. We had resolved to get the by laws in place. This was assumed by Eric D which he did and emailed out to the board on 28 March.

After some investigation with the RC moderators, MSN email staff, it was determined that the email address was falsified and that the email did not pass throug RC mail servers. We, all 5 of us agreed that Delta_zeta should not be allowed to attend any meetings or be a member of the club and was sent a letter by the board stating this.

Racer69 then took the by laws and started massaging them to fit SCMAS.

The board was never contacted for another meeting, again by Eric L, he has my email, user ID for pms and phone number, both home and cell. He claims that he tried to get us to meet but the only phone call was about another member, Crit21 who got fed up and quit because he was accused of "an agenda" with another member who was causing problems in the forum. Crit was going to be kicked out of the club because of these issues with 3-2 vote.

The last straw for me was when Eric lied to you in the nominations thread and stated that he had a 3-2 person vote and didn't need mine or Eric D's vote as he had the backing of 2 other members. That is a flat out lie and I have the PM's to prove it. There was no meeting of the board on how the elections were to be put into effect, this is a work in progress. Hell, we still have till next Monday before the nominations are finished. So much for having to have a snap decision, right now.

I sent out an email to all the board members, yesteday, after the bashing Eric D took when he proposed how to run the elections (he had not been invited, as a board member, to put his input into this either). All he did was make a recommendation and he gets attacked for it. I sent an email to the board (BTW, I have every email that I have received or sent to the board members) that we need to get our shiate straight and work this out amonst ourselves. I also pointed out that Todd had emailed about the club purchasing a PAR meter for members to use. I voted against it because of the logistical nightmare of maintaining it. I never recieved anything back from the other 3 board members saying yea or nay. I also pointed out that only Robert had agreed to the purchasing of the BBQ food stuff by the club. The response I got back from Eric L was; "I don't have time right now
to deal with all of this, and honestly, this club is the least of my
concerns right now."

The club by laws state that any expenditures by the club must be voted on by the board and approved but I was told by Eric L that "the by laws are not binding until the new board is in place" or something to that effect.

[Reet15]

Murf, I also think your resignation might have been in haste. Although I know that you have declined any nominations in the upcoming election, I still believe that you are as important to this club as I am (which may not be saying much! LOL). Please reconsider your resignation. Thanks.

[racer69]

I really can't believe you are airing out the dirty laundry here on the boards. Guys, I am just about done with all of you. I have a very nice reef setup now and I will have a very nice reef setup after all of this. The queston is will you all shut the hell up already!!!!!!!

This is like grade school and I personally am a professional, both in business and in life. It would be nice if the rest of you with sensitive feelings would be the same.

[clowninaround74]

on a lighter side of things i can confidently say that this is more reading then i have done since i have been in college!!!! i was supprised to see that murf wrote a small novel above!!!!!!!!!! lol jk man!

[prplfirefish]

All this over the fricking elections!!!!!!!!!
I agree with Reet- and Todd-You all need to just cool down and stop resighnig. What good is that going to do?
Tracy

Enuff is ENUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Caleb Kruse]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9749690#post9749690 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clowninaround74
on a lighter side of things i can confidently say that this is more reading then i have done since i have been in college!!!! i was supprised to see that murf wrote a small novel above!!!!!!!!!! lol jk man!
LOL :lol:

[murfman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9749696#post9749696 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by prplfirefish
All this over the fricking elections!!!!!!!!!
I agree with Reet- and Todd-You all need to just cool down and stop resighnig. What good is that going to do?
Tracy

Enuff is ENUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I am glad to keep it personal and between us but I will not stand for anyone, no matter whom attacking my character. I feel I am a pretty honsest, straight forward guy who speaks my mind. I don't pussyfoot around and I don't rewrite history to suit my needs either. Now lets leave it and let your club move on.

[reefkoi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9750193#post9750193 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by murfman

Now lets leave it and let your club move on.

Jeez way to plant a bomb and run ;)

I agree lets move on they need to close this POS thread down!
Where are the mods when we need them!

[Freshbrew]

Look guys, without passing judgement on anyone involved here, I would just like to say that we have a young man who is reading these posts (I refer to Caleb and judging this based on the photo he put in the intro deal) I think it is unfortunate that we are putting forward this image of how "adults" deal with problems. I don't know many of you and most of you probably don't know me. Again I am not picking on any one person, but I know that if I was reading these postings regarding a "club" my son was involved in...he would no longer be involved and that would be unfortunate. I recommend we all step back and evaluate what it is we are trying to do and get the mission accomplished. I believe EVERYONE needs to put a little pride aside or this club is doomed for failure. Just my two cents and...I'm spent.

[clowninaround74]

well im glad caleb was able to laugh a little.......sorry i know this is a serious thread i just know humor never hurt anybody!

[IsThisNameTaken?]

I was getting in my car this morning and slipped on a gnarly patch of wet grass down a little hill, ate it pretty bad in front of 2 people walking their dogs. Think I ruined a pair of slacks. Crazyness I tell you.. crazyness...

[Freshbrew]

I agree clowninaround and although my thoughts are kinda serious, that is the manner in which I hope they are taken. I am definately not trying to start something else or make anyone madder than they already are!