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zanclus
05/05/2007, 04:46 PM
Ok I checked with the BOSS and she said that sunday the 20th is ok for making rock. Bring you work clothes gloves gravel sand concrete and whatever and lets PARTY!!!!!!

drbronx
05/05/2007, 05:01 PM
OK. Lets Rock! (sorry for the pun). Sounds like a plan. Thanx for hosting John.

RyanM
05/06/2007, 10:32 AM
Great, Ill get to sayre and grab some crushed oyster shells. If I remember correctly it comes in 50 pound bags..How many pounds you think i should get? 50 pounds seems to little and 100 seems like a lot but ill get 2 bags..cant hurt to have a little extra.

Piazzon12
05/06/2007, 11:01 AM
John, what time were you thinking? Unfortunately, I'll have to leave around 2... It's my brother's BU college graduation and the bbq/party is at my place. So for me the earlier the better.

Piazzon12
05/06/2007, 11:04 AM
Also, I can pick up like 5 40lb bags of sun crystals from walmart... if they don't get used, I have a water softener so they'd get used eventually.

zanclus
05/06/2007, 04:15 PM
We can start at 9 AM if you like . I was thinking o f maybe having a little bbq also cause well if it is nice it is bbq time....

Piazzon12
05/06/2007, 05:05 PM
I don't know how many concious people we'd get at 9 a.m... but I usually up early. Nothing a giant coffee or bloody mary can't fix. It's really up to you and the majority of others... don't want you to change any plans on account of me

fatrip
05/06/2007, 05:14 PM
im up for the early start...i think a nice big bloody mary would fix it...lol...i like your way of thinking adam...

drbronx
05/06/2007, 05:34 PM
Early is fine!

zanclus
05/06/2007, 06:09 PM
well we can start early thats fine by me I am up around 7 every day anyways...

Blugobi
05/06/2007, 06:30 PM
Sunday at 9am? What are all of you smoking?!!!!!! lol I guess I can pull this wreck of a body up for that. I'll bring a couple bags of sand and I'm working on the mixer....

Geo

fatrip
05/06/2007, 07:13 PM
we are puffin the good stuff:smokin:...cross your fingers for the mixer...lol...not it on the hoe for mixing. oh come on your not that old george. ill bring some beer, what does everyone like???

RyanM
05/06/2007, 08:18 PM
Beer at 9am on a sunday..im not much for that but i dont have a problem with 9am...just wont be doing alot of beer slammin that early. Slamin a LARGE coffee is more my speed.

Dave VG
05/08/2007, 04:59 AM
i will try to be there.

zanclus
05/08/2007, 07:36 AM
for those who don't know my addy it is 411 Peru rd (rt38) Groton 13073 very easy to find

Piazzon12
05/08/2007, 10:44 AM
It would be good to read the very end of this post, Travis provided a good summation.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=952524&perpage=25&pagenumber=40
Also 5x40lb bags of salt have been procured

fatrip
05/08/2007, 11:56 AM
woooow adam...great thread...it would be nice to make a CO2 cahmber..lol...

Szwalla
05/08/2007, 05:04 PM
Hello fatrip,

I am just curious what your name and others mean?

-Mike
Szwalla - just my last name.

fatrip
05/08/2007, 05:10 PM
well my name goes way back to when i was in high school, i have been using it since then for many different things so it is easy to remeber...it was from my younger days but fat rip...i think you get the picture...

Blugobi
05/08/2007, 05:33 PM
I think we will be all set on the cement mixer, so that should free up some beer time...:) We may want to consider building a temporary "mold box" For example a 8'x8' box with some 2x6's we can lay some plastic down....I think with the mixer we will make some cement pretty quick and we don't have a lot of time to work with it. Try to think of some ideas on rocks you want to build and reverse the image in your head....if that makes sense?

So We need to create a list of who is bringing what:

We are going to need a lot more sand!!!


Blugobi- Cement mixer, 2 bags of play sand.

drbronx
05/08/2007, 06:15 PM
Whom else has play sand they can contribute? I believe St. James said he had some bags he can spare. Anyone else? Or who knows where to buy some silicate fre sand if needed? How much do we need. Ryan is bringing crushed oyster shells, Piazzon is bringing salt. What else is needed? For those laying out money for supplies, leave me the receipts which I will submit to the zoo for eventual repayment.

Szwalla
05/08/2007, 06:20 PM
I could pickup supplies. Let me know what you still need.

-Mike

fatrip
05/08/2007, 06:25 PM
same here tell me what else is needed and i could pick something up???

St.james of reefdom
05/10/2007, 05:20 PM
no the bags i have are going in my 900

zanclus
05/10/2007, 05:46 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9917925#post9917925 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by St.james of reefdom
no the bags i have are going in my 900
Wish I had a 900 .... lol

I have 2 Bags of Portland cement 90 lbers I think they are.

drbronx
05/10/2007, 06:21 PM
Anyone else with silicate free playsand. John, does the Ithaca Agway have any?

zanclus
05/10/2007, 07:33 PM
I dont know but can check tomorrow ...

Blugobi
05/10/2007, 07:38 PM
Hey John, take a look at K-mart...they have a store brand that is supposed to be a lot like Southdown....take contianer with some vinigar with you and check it out....I think its a red bag.

Geo

RyanM
05/10/2007, 07:44 PM
Home depot use to have a pallet of kolorscape. Dont know if they still do but its getting to be that time of season so im sure they do. Plenty good enough to make rock out of. 4 bucks a bag.

fatrip
05/10/2007, 07:52 PM
i can go take a look at HD this weekend and see if they have it...

Blugobi
05/10/2007, 09:04 PM
Hey everyone, not trying to throw a wet blanket on this party, but remember its graduation weekend at most colleges for may 19th and 20th, so keep that in mind in case of a date change.......

Geo

zanclus
05/10/2007, 09:53 PM
the date is fine with me

fatrip
05/12/2007, 04:49 PM
no kolorscape at HD but they do have play sand...i asked on the DIY rock forum if it was good to use and some people said they use it...so good i guess...lol...how many more bags of sand do we need??? from scaning the thread no one has gotten sand yet correct??? so i figure 100 lbs, we do 3 to 1 cement probibly round 4 bags??? and do we want the brown colored or white???let me know and ill go and pick them up..

drbronx
05/12/2007, 10:27 PM
Cool. Pick up some of the white sand. be sure to keep the receipts. Might want to check that no-one picks up any of the K-mart sand.

fatrip
05/13/2007, 12:42 PM
ehh if they do we'll have some sand for the bottom of the tank...lol...

drbronx
05/13/2007, 05:51 PM
I checked HD today. Their sand is paving sand. Not good for tanks.

fatrip
05/13/2007, 05:56 PM
did you go to the garden area in HD they had white play sand....

RyanM
05/13/2007, 06:23 PM
yea you have to go outside, its not with the regular sand

fatrip
05/13/2007, 07:51 PM
they had mentioned pulverized limestone in the DIY rock forum, and said that it is nicer to use....ill check at the tractor supplie store tomorrow and see if they have any of this...since i just checked the quikrete does have quartz in it so that is no good...but it is the only sand that i could find at any store HD, lowes, walmart....does any one know of any cement places that might sell sand that we can look at????

fatrip
05/13/2007, 07:53 PM
opp sorry forgot to add agway in there to places i have checked..

drbronx
05/13/2007, 08:39 PM
I didn't see the white play sand. only the tan stuff by pave stone.

Piazzon12
05/14/2007, 05:24 AM
I think the limestone they were talking about had to come from a specific brand/place in Texas.. I think most of the brands have too much other "stuff" in it.

fatrip
05/14/2007, 06:01 AM
damb....well that just doesnt help does it...lol...sooo back to loooking for a cement place to get sand from and one know any???

fatrip
05/14/2007, 08:53 AM
hey guys read this post that travis wrote, it is about silica sand and how much leaches out...

silica sand in aquariums (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9938365#post9938365)

RyanM
05/14/2007, 09:31 AM
There are lots of people that use regular silica sand. There are as many opnions about silicas used as a sand bed as there are opinions about using a sand bed at all. I my self try to use a calcium based sand but that is highly based on inconclusive statments that even calcium is leached out of it. I has been said and tested by everyone who uses a calcium reactor that for any leaching of calcium to take place the ph would need to be so low that nothing would be alive in the tank. So why the need for it?
My only input on that question is that coral made it so it cant be to bad. The silica verses calicium based sand is an old topic and one that tops the post count here on RC im sure. If it can be done with a calium based sand I say we should use it. If we cant for money/availability reason then im for using what we can find.

One more thing, I think it should be a bare bottom tank with a remote sand bed. Starbord or something like that looks very nice if done right. The sand can be replaced as needed with out the tank having to be taken apart.

fatrip
05/14/2007, 09:45 AM
so where do we find calcium based sand???

RyanM
05/14/2007, 09:58 AM
Well if money is not an object then any pet store has or can order it. The so called calcium based sand like kolorscape is at best a "peace of mind" option because who really knows whats in it. The bags i got came from HD in Vestal. You say you looked so I guess unless they can order it we need to get another source. I my self wouldnt worry about it as a remote SB. Like I said before, if we can find it great. If not then we either buy it at somewhere around a buck a pound or more. Or we use silica sand. It is a small price to pay if we have to spend $200 on it but I really dont think it matters. As a filter I think any clean sand would do fine but again we can always just bite the bullet and pay the price for it. I guess my whole point is this, Either we get what we KNOW to be calcium based arganite sand wich is expensive or we get the cleanest sand we can find localy. I really dont think it matters..Who knows whats in kolorscape. I dont. It passes the fiss test but that proves very little as to the total quality of sand. IMO if your going with a store bought play sand your getting no better sand than regular silica play sand.

Im just one opinion but I really dont think it matters.

RyanM
05/14/2007, 10:16 AM
On a side note but still related to the sand. I was thinking about a 2 remote sand bed system. My thought is that regardless of what sand we use it should most definetly be a remote sand bed.
That way it can be changed out on a regular basis. And destroying a working sand bed and replacing it with a clean new one is not always helping more than its hurting. So if we have 2 then 1 can be changed out and the other will be there to pick up the slack till the new one is up to speed. Doesnt need to be 2 complely different sand beds..just 1 large one that is devided off in to sections. It could even be a multi compartment sand bed. 12 even. once a month a compartment is cleaned and replaced with new sand. 12 is a bit much but I think everyone gets the point.

zanclus
05/14/2007, 11:06 AM
I have a request... If anyone has a nice camera could they please bring it with them to the rock party. I would really love to get some great shots of my tank.. Thanks John

RyanM
05/14/2007, 11:46 AM
I forgot this was the rock making thread, got side tracked. Yes we still need sand for the rocks. Sand bed is a whole other issue.

I have a camera and Jerry has a nice one, maybe he can bring his as well.

As far as sand for the rocks, hmm Ill look around down my way when i go to get the crushed oyster shells and see what i can find.

fatrip
05/14/2007, 12:51 PM
sounds good ryan, yea idk about the sand bed...but what if we can't find any none silica sand, can we use the silica based stuff for the rocks??? that was basically the basis for posting the link to what travis said....

RyanM
05/14/2007, 01:40 PM
No, I wouldnt. Sand bed is one thing. The rocks, They are permenant residence and would be nice to fine some good stuff to use. But there again that is only based on info that is far from scientific. We have a week to find some sand. I will get on the hunt. and if push comes to shove then we deside what we want to do.

fatrip
05/14/2007, 01:49 PM
well it is expensive but i can get, if push comes to shove...20lb bags of argonite for 7.00....give or take 50 cents

RyanM
05/14/2007, 01:56 PM
Yup, id say if we cant find any other sand then we should go with arganite. Even at $7 for 20 pounds thats not going to break the bank. So we get 5 bags. Thats only 35 bucks. 10 would be 70 if they have that many. 10 bags would be 200 pounds. thats not bad at all.

fatrip
05/14/2007, 02:06 PM
i could probibly wip up 10 bags if need be, but i just checked and to get it i need to know by tomorrow evening...i know very short notice...sorry

drbronx
05/14/2007, 06:12 PM
Do we know how much we need? Might as well pick up 7-10 bags. We can always use any extra for the tank substrate. Can you lay it out. It may be a couple of weeks or more until you get reimbursed.

fatrip
05/14/2007, 06:49 PM
yea i could do that, but exactly how many bag do you want???

Blugobi
05/14/2007, 07:11 PM
The rock mixture should be 3 to 1 sand/gravel to concrete, At least I pretty sure of the recipie. I'll try anf find the right recipe and see what it says.

Geo

Blugobi
05/14/2007, 07:24 PM
OK here a few recipies:


1 part Portland cement
1 part aragonite sand
1 part crushed coral
3 parts crushed oyster shell

or

1 part portland cement
1 part sand
1 part plastic shavings
2 parts oyster shell

or we can mix and match.

Here is another:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=5192050#post5192050 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by little_d
Here it is, I use 1 cup of water, 1 cup of cement and 4 cup of oyster shell.

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/5328/im0001383cj.jpg

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/3309/im0001354sm.jpg

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/9894/im0001336oa.jpg

Looks like tha made sand piles with depressions in them and went from there.

Geo


i'm leaning twords:

1 Part Cement
1 part sand
2 parts oyster shell
1 part H20

drbronx
05/14/2007, 07:57 PM
George, how many bags of aragonite do you suggest fatrip pick up?

Blugobi
05/14/2007, 08:07 PM
Well that all depends on how much rock we make....John says he has two bags of cement...about 160 lbs, so if we use the parts.

160 lbs of cement
160 lbs of sand
320 lbs of oyster shells
??? H20

Now this is if we use all the cement

So Lets say we use 1 bag of cement

80 lbs
80 to 160 lbs of sand depending on 1 or 2 parts and
80 to 160 lbs Oyster shells depending on 1 or 2 parts
Make sense?

so we should end up with about 240 lbs of DIY rock, after curing and its dry

Blugobi
05/14/2007, 08:10 PM
But keep in mind, we will need sand for the "Molds"

fatrip
05/14/2007, 08:26 PM
i thought we were useing salt for the molds???

fatrip
05/14/2007, 08:27 PM
that way it would make little crevases and just get disolved off the rock...and i thought we were goin to use shreaded plastic in the mix to lighted it up a bit???

Blugobi
05/15/2007, 07:22 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9942993#post9942993 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fatrip
i thought we were useing salt for the molds???


We can use both for the molds.....user prefrence :)

fatrip
05/15/2007, 07:27 AM
right....i just need to know how much sand before 4:00 this after noon...thanks

Blugobi
05/15/2007, 07:31 AM
Fatrip,

6-8 Bags should do it, plus the 2 bags im bringing will give us 8-10 which should work well.

Geo

RyanM
05/15/2007, 07:42 AM
8-10 should be fine. it wont go to waste. Any left over im sure one of us would take it..I know id buy a bag if one is left over

Blugobi
05/15/2007, 07:44 AM
Ok,

I did some math for converting of parts to quantities we can work with. Let me know what you think.


38 cups of cement = 2 dry gallons 1 part
38 cups of sand = 2 dry gallons 1part
76 cups of Oyster shell = 4 dry gallons 2 parts
2 gallons of H20 = 2 gallons….duh 1 part


When mixing in the water, go slow so we don’t turn into soup and have to keep adding in dry to get it back to the right consistency…if that makes sense.


So this should come with about (1½) 5 gallon buckets of “reef rock mud” to work with. We can use the salt, Oyster shells and or sand to make reveres molds on some plastic and make some art….lol

fatrip
05/15/2007, 08:11 AM
ok so im getting 7, i believe at 7.50 a bag but ill conferm at 1:30 today. sound good??? every one ready to have some early fun on sun???

zanclus
05/15/2007, 08:20 AM
If needed the Kmart in Cortland has Kolorscape sand if I am correct it is reef safe. It is made by Old Castle. I didnt do the vinagar test but can go back and test it. .the bag says not for aquarium use but most playsand bags say that ,.....
P.S. ... They have Pallets of it.....

Piazzon12
05/15/2007, 08:21 AM
I believe we'd also want to fold salt into the cement mixture at the end as well, this will help make it lighter and more pourous

fatrip
05/15/2007, 08:33 AM
i'd say go with the kolorscape....probibly way cheeper...but let me know what we decide bfore 1:30ish...

RyanM
05/15/2007, 09:07 AM
I have 160 pounds of kolorscape in my tank. Seems to be fine, no ill efects. Im sure it will be fine for our rocks. And yes way cheeper. $4 for 40 was what i got my at. And If they have a whole skid of it, it might not be a bad idea to get enough for the rocks and the bed.

zanclus
05/15/2007, 10:33 AM
I called Kmart and it is $3.49 + tax per bag so if you let me know how many bags I can jpick it up tonight.....

drbronx
05/15/2007, 06:14 PM
May as well get 8 bags John. We can get more for the substrate at a later time if thats what we decide to go with. Thanks bunches.

fatrip
05/15/2007, 07:42 PM
hey are we goin to bake the rock to make this go faster or just let it sit and kure??? and are we going to try and nutrulize the Calcium Hydroxide with an acid??? just things i am wondering to see how long the proccess is acctually goin to take???

zanclus
05/15/2007, 08:33 PM
Consider it done Jerry ....

drbronx
05/15/2007, 08:52 PM
cool!

RyanM
05/15/2007, 10:27 PM
heat isnt good for curing of concrete, stream method with water running over it is far the fastest way that i know of to cure it. If you heat it up it can weaken it. Conrete cures slowly and its stronger the slower it cures. would be a mess if a year down the road our rocks crumble :)

fatrip
05/16/2007, 04:55 AM
humdit heat is tho, that is how they do it with mass production of pileons and such concret things...the humid heat makes the calcium hydroxide bond to the silicates faster which makes them harden faster...bout 4-6 hours....

Piazzon12
05/16/2007, 06:14 AM
Even if we get it to harden fast, the really lengthy time is the time spent leaching out the lime/calcium so it would still have to sit in the creek for a couple months. I have read about using acid, and have tried vinegar myself. It is not good for soaking, only for scrubbing of the initial film of scum. If you soak in it, it weakens the rock, and the ph spikes again a little while later.

fatrip
05/16/2007, 06:24 AM
i'd i have been following a thread that travis has been doing it doesnt seem like it is not goin to spike if you take all of the salt out first then nutrialize the calcium hydroxide but idk...i think i am goin to have to do some experiments at home with it... but i need to use something more acidic than vinigar because the calcium hydroxide that is causing the ph spike is some wheres around 12.5 or higher and vinigar is only like 2.7 i think dont quote the numbers but it is close, but yet something that wont eat the rock away....

Blugobi
05/16/2007, 01:17 PM
Guys, I'm going to have to back out for Sunday, We just switched to a 12 hour work day schedule at my work place, and I start my sched on sunday the 20th. Sorry about that guys...looks like you will be hand mixing the cement :) Have a good time, I will for sure miss being there

fatrip
05/16/2007, 01:27 PM
bummmmmmer...

drbronx
05/16/2007, 05:26 PM
Very sorry you won't be there George. We'll miss your help. How critical is the mixer for the amount of cement we'll be mixing. Is it possible to rent one cheaply or can we do it by hand. John, do you have something we can mix it in?

fatrip
05/16/2007, 05:34 PM
by hand will be fine for the amount we are mixing up.... a wheel barrel will be needed to mix it in tho, and probibly some shovels or hoes to mix it with...

nwrogers
05/17/2007, 08:15 AM
Hi guys, sorry I can’t make it this weekend. I have a prior commitment I can’t get out of. I have always wanted to make some DIY rock. It looks like a really fun project. Good luck this weekend!

RyanM
05/17/2007, 09:02 AM
We can mix it by hand. its not that much.

zanclus
05/17/2007, 09:04 AM
I have a wheel barrel and a Hoe .. You are all welcome to bring your hoes too.....

fatrip
05/17/2007, 09:22 AM
lol...just dont say nappy...

RyanM
05/17/2007, 11:56 AM
LOL

Blugobi
05/17/2007, 02:13 PM
Nappy headed yard tool................. LOL!

fatrip
05/17/2007, 02:39 PM
LoL..

zanclus
05/20/2007, 06:47 AM
Well I am sitting here with the Cement and sand hope to see all of you soon lol.....

zanclus
05/20/2007, 11:41 AM
Drizzle has started to come down a little harder I covered the Rock up with a tarp and Plastic... Lets hope it all cures nicely!

Piazzon12
05/21/2007, 10:31 AM
Resist temptation...
don't touch it...
I know the suspense is killing everyone!

drbronx
05/21/2007, 10:35 AM
Thanks John for hosting a fun rock making party. It was funny to see a bunch of adults playing with mud pies. I'll try to post pictures as soon as I get the time. It will be interesting to see how these things turn out. So far the one I brought home looks OK. A couple of little cracks but its hardening up quickly.

RyanM
05/21/2007, 10:47 AM
My piece traveled well. I have a hard time not going out and cleaning it to see the result. I will wait tho. Thanks John. Lets hope they turn out.

fatrip
05/21/2007, 11:32 AM
the suspence is to much....need to touch...lol...mine looks good the little pies i made on the top are pretty hard...looks like it will be good...thanks john for hosting and the use of your creek...

zanclus
05/21/2007, 11:44 AM
I checked tham and uncovered them today they look like they are setting up ok
I will not touch them for a few days I wiill have to cover them tonight .. damb frost warning for here.. gotta love NY weather

RyanM
05/21/2007, 03:29 PM
I took a small piece that some how broke off and placed it in my toilet tank. I swear I didnt try and pick it up. I think a strong gust of wind must of past thru my garage and swirled around in side the box and broke it. :) Looks real good. Ill let you know how the salt does as it disolves.

fatrip
05/21/2007, 03:41 PM
lol....that is great ryan...blam it all on the wind...lol

RyanM
05/22/2007, 08:22 PM
Well I took my few pieces out of the box today and sunk them in my toilet tank. Was a tight fit and the wife was looking at me like I had gone completly mental but it did fit in there. I have to say I am very impressed so far with it. It is solid and not britle at all. I took a wire brush and gave it a good scrub to remove any lose stuff and to uncover any salt crystals just under the layer of cement. It looks great. the smaler piece i put in there the other day has already disolved much of the surface salt and left nice indents. I think we did a good job. I may make a few hundred pounds to have around for my future tank. Get an early start on it.

zanclus
05/23/2007, 10:26 AM
The rock we made is looking good , it is curing up nicely and I will let it continue to harden till monday when I will put it in the stream.
The pieces are way cool.

ROCK STARS:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/zanclus/100_2606.jpg

jacksonpt
05/23/2007, 10:32 AM
Any pics of the rock? I've heard about people making their own rock but have often wondered about shape and such.

fatrip
05/23/2007, 10:36 AM
it is at our feet...the rock that is..

jacksonpt
05/23/2007, 10:39 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9998809#post9998809 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fatrip
it is at our feet...the rock that is..
On the blue tarp, thats finished rock?

fatrip
05/23/2007, 10:42 AM
its not finished it is just started...lol....takes a very long time to finish about 2 to 3 months before it can go in a tank...

zanclus
05/23/2007, 11:06 AM
I moved the rock off the tarp here is a nice picture of it :
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/zanclus/100_2619.jpg
The rock needs to be put in wate for about 2 months so it can cure and let the PH come down. I have a stream in my backyard I will be putting it in there on Monday...

fatrip
05/23/2007, 11:31 AM
vince's rock looks better than ryan rock...lol...

zanclus
05/23/2007, 01:42 PM
I think it all looks good .lol

fatrip
05/23/2007, 01:50 PM
i know i just want to see what ryan would say...lol

RyanM
05/23/2007, 02:01 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9999176#post9999176 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fatrip
vince's rock looks better than ryan rock...lol...

LMAO I was thinking just the opposite

fatrip
05/23/2007, 02:06 PM
lol

Blugobi
05/23/2007, 02:32 PM
Hey Guys....all looks great! Sorry I had to work. I think we can always do this again for future projects :)

zanclus
05/23/2007, 03:04 PM
Sure George u just wanted to get out of mixing concrete lol . We quite understand work comes first, gotta make money for the teef!!!!

Blugobi
05/23/2007, 04:40 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10000653#post10000653 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zanclus
Sure George u just wanted to get out of mixing concrete lol . We quite understand work comes first, gotta make money for the teef!!!!


Hey I have all my "Teef"...well most anyway..........:lol:

zanclus
05/23/2007, 05:55 PM
Lol didnt take you long to catch that one lol

nwrogers
05/23/2007, 06:42 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10001268#post10001268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Blugobi
Hey I have all my "Teef"...well most anyway..........:lol:

Haha :lol:

drbronx
05/23/2007, 07:30 PM
Our mudpies look excellent. Thanx for posting the photos John!

zanclus
05/23/2007, 07:44 PM
Not a problem Jerry I figured if we waited till you got around to it we would all be old and grey!!!!!

jacksonpt
05/24/2007, 05:41 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9998979#post9998979 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zanclus
I moved the rock off the tarp here is a nice picture of it :
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/zanclus/100_2619.jpg
The rock needs to be put in wate for about 2 months so it can cure and let the PH come down. I have a stream in my backyard I will be putting it in there on Monday...
Wow, that looks great! Unfortunatly I have no where NEAR enough patients for that :lol:

Piazzon12
05/24/2007, 06:23 AM
hey if those guys can do it, anyone can!

zanclus
05/24/2007, 07:00 AM
Actully It was quite fun but we had to have a Dr on site according to the new OSHA rules... a mental Dr that is lol

drbronx
05/24/2007, 08:53 PM
LOL!

fatrip
05/28/2007, 05:58 PM
hey ryan how is your toilet bowl rocks coming???? i did the same thing and put some of my small pieces of rock in the toilet bowl, and i took one out today to see how it was doing. it looks really good so i said ehhh lets break it and see if any salt is still there...to my surprise there was no salt within....i think with the constant flow of the stream these rocks will be done sooner than we might think...i know there is still the PH issue but ill be testing that when i get some time...

zanclus
05/28/2007, 08:38 PM
Rocks will be going into the stream tomorrow.. was going to do it today but due to the fact that a few beers got into me I didn't think being near water was a good idea...

Piazzon12
05/29/2007, 10:00 AM
creek rock vs. toilet rock... the race to cure first

fatrip
05/29/2007, 10:02 AM
hahahaha that was good

RyanM
05/29/2007, 11:56 AM
I was away all weekend so I havent looked at them since but I will today. I looked at them before I left and they look great. As far as done sooner goes, Its a ph issue for sure. Id be willing to bet that the cement hasnt even started to drop in ph yet but i will place mine in some clean water and do a test.