Ok, anyone know anything about prodibio and rtn? What the rule of thumb?

[wentreefgirl]

Seems every time I dose another dose, i loose a coral. Im dosing accordingly. Not sure whats the deal.

[Serioussnaps]

Are you getting algae? Just curious! Lately with prodibio and ultralith(i know...completely unrelated, but both are fads)I hear more(alot more) posts like this than success posts. Amazing the drolls of people that have great corals and tanks and then start this and it messes it all up.

Snake oil I say....cant say that I never thought about a little experimentation either though. I now refuse to put ANYTHING in my tank unless I know WHAT IS IN IT...with prodibio you dont really know crap about what it is or whats in it. I personally think its just a carbon source.

[glassbox-design]

sounds like your Od'ing your C source. they work, but the directions dont. everyone has a different cnp ratio and the dosing needs to be adjusted...that's why there is a zeo forum full of dosing advice and questions.

edit just saw you're running a po4 rx, pull it off line. you're not giving the bacs a chance to do their job.

serioussnaps-i hear you it's not for everyone. but knowing that prodibio bac strains has been substituted for other methods ( by companies and users) tells me it's more than a C.

[Deuce67]

Wow! Definitely not the advice she wanted to hear Snaps. Im not a Prodibio user but are you still running your Phosban reactor? You could be taking out phosphates way too fast. Maybe taking phosban out and cut your dosage in half. I know someone in my club who use Prodibio and his tank is awesome.

[wcpeixoto]

I use it for 7 months now and never lost a coral (LPS nor SPS). Are you monitoring your nitrate and others ? If you improved quality of water after start up Biodgest and Bioptim maybe it is time to provide some energy source to corals, like Reefbooster or anything else. It is specially important to LPS.

[jamesdawson]

I have been using Prodibio BioDigest monthly for over a year w/o any problems along with UltraLith. IME, most reef problems happen when parameters get out of wack so regular testing is a must to monitor parameters.

I like to test everything weekly and spot-test if anything looks amiss between normal weekly testing.

James

[wentreefgirl]

Was checking to see if it were paremeters. Not that. Phosban is offline for 2 wks now. Still have that fuzzy clearish algae though. Was there before serious. Will check out the zeo forum. Thanks all.

[Serioussnaps]

Any new thoughts wentreefgirl?

[Denadai]

I used it for 6 months and gave up......I never lost a coral (LPS or SPS), but my nitrate was the same.....I think prodibio doesn´t works....water change is the best thing you can do for your reef and to keep water quality.

Regards

[wentreefgirl]

Im actually thinking about stopping the "p". My colors was darker before. Now they are light. No change in the nitrates either. Although they werent high. Just that nasty algae.

[Serioussnaps]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9924226#post9924226 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wentreefgirl
Im actually thinking about stopping the "p". My colors was darker before. Now they are light. No change in the nitrates either. Although they werent high. Just that nasty algae.

Do you run a GFO?

[wentreefgirl]

Did, havent changed my signature. But probably wont change it because im probably going to back off for a while. Stopped the gfo more then 2 wks ago.

My ph is 8.2 right on the money. My phos with salifert is O. My nitrate 4. Which hasnt budged. My alk is 10. My calc is 420. My mag is 1410 ish.

Just wish i could get rid of this nasty algae and im also growing this red algae that looks like tiny vine with no leaves. Anyway, will a water change this weekend further stress things or should i just leave it for a bit.

[Serioussnaps]

The red algae is a PITA...if its the red algae i had a long ways back I just threw the rocks it was on away...nothing would eat it and it wouldnt go away...i couldnt even pull it off the rock.

I recommend running the GFO again...whats your fishload like in the 90?

[wentreefgirl]

3 fish. Bicolor angel, poweder blue tang and yellow tailed damsel.

[Jay4Robin]

Reef girl i feel your pain. I just won a battle with hair algae. 2 times in 12 years!!! Its not easy at all. But do not try quick fixes. They never work and empty your wallet. Get a TDS meter and make sure your putting in clean water. Do alot of water changes and clean as much algae off as you can. get some turbos and stop feeding fish. Run a phosphate reactor and change the media weekly. Do 2 water changes a week. HTH

I had my problem from a blocked return on my closed loop system and over feeding fish. I did not realize also that my TDS was high on my auto top off. the storge container was releasing TDS into the water. It was a chain of events.

[glassbox-design]

is it a clearish red fuzzy algae? take some pics...i know two suppliers (more like drop shippers...) have this and continue to sell coral and LR from their systems and are spreading it so people. i have yet to hear a way to get rid of it. it thrives in low nutrient systems and nothing eats it. i hope you dont have that :(

[3.99AfterTaxes]

Your alk is too high to properly run probiotic systems. You need to be in the 7.0-8.3 range.

[jamesdawson]

I second the TDS meter suggestion. This is by far the most accurate one on the market and its priced right.

http://www.tdsmeter.com/products/com100.html

James

[glassbox-design]

wow didnt see your alk was that high. stick to NSW params...i'd bet that's the reason why.

[wentreefgirl]

Ok, so what your saying is if im using prodibio, I need to have a dkh of 7-8? How come it doesnt give these instuctions anywhere. This stinks. And you know the weird thing. The most of the corals that are rtning are pinks , blues, and reds. Freaky.

Ill take a pic of this stuff. You guys can tell me if its the nasty stuff.

[wentreefgirl]

Cant get really close and show you but the red is vining not splotchy. I clean my tunzes every couple of days and its back. It grows over the coraline. And the fuzzy stuff that looks clearish brown.
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[reefkoi]

I second the alk issue. I have been running an alk of 7ish for a long time. I starting hearing people tell me to raise it up to 10.
These weren't prodibio or zeo people.
I slowly raised it to 10-11 and guess what 3-4 sps RTN in the last couple weeks.
Thats the only parameter that I have changed.
I am going back to letting my Tropic Marine Pro Reef salt maintain the alk at 7dkh and leave it alone with no more buffering.

It's funny how I had everything running fine but when I get some new advice telling me I am doing something wrong and i change that's when it actually goes wrong.

Oh well at least i know what to do now, just sit back and relax and let the Prodibio work like it has been for the last 7 months.

Oh and BTW I never get any weird or any algae (other than coralline) for that matter in the tank so I guess my dosage rate is pretty good.

[wentreefgirl]

I did a water change today and tested dkh after and its now 9 dkh, will hope for it to lower some more soon. Before I loose more. And weirder, its all older corals that have been in my tank. The newer ones are fine. Go figure. I checked my nitrates and they are the same. Weird how its effecting the corals but hasnt changed anything. So to "P" or not to "P". That is the question.

[3.99AfterTaxes]

Yup, I'm a ZEOvit user, and I have zero problems while my alk is running below 8.3. Any higher and stuff starts to look like garbage.