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jdog6973
05/21/2007, 09:05 AM
Every one is telling me that I don't want a Carpet Anemone because of the care level! I have had salt water for 1 year now and have had fresh water tanks for over 17 years. How hard are they to keep?

cb747
05/21/2007, 10:36 AM
Before you keep a Carpet id try a bta of some sort. Also a carpet will outgrow both your tanks you have listed so keep that in mind as well. :)

jdog6973
05/21/2007, 11:54 AM
How fast do they grow? Do you think I could get a year out of one in my 30 gal tank. the one I am looking at is about 4" around.

bencozzy
05/21/2007, 12:03 PM
depends on the species of carpet?

whats your current stocking level with other corals?

a haddons carpets average size is 20" so technically it can be done if you aquascape right and dont have alot of other stuff in the tank.(carpets in general also tend to have a high "bioload" which can tax the biological abilities of most smaller systems.)

i have mine in a 20g long with a 25g refugium.

heres a good pic to show how much of the tank it takes up
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/bencozzy/my%20tank/089.jpg

Mr Bojangles
05/21/2007, 07:37 PM
well, here is mine, he is about 18 inches. He has probably has grown about 4 to 5 inches since I got in in a year

http://www.reefers.org/album/images/3583_401075.JPG

woodycb
05/21/2007, 07:55 PM
The research I did said these things were difficult to take care of. He is pretty dang easy to take care of and is doing great.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb248/woodycb/mini-100_1391.jpg

Mr Bojangles
05/21/2007, 08:02 PM
as long as you have stable water parameters, the right light, and the ability to rearrange all of your corals and have some fish eaten, then they are easy

ViPeR_930
05/21/2007, 08:49 PM
woodycb, is that even a carpet anemone?

650-IS350
05/21/2007, 08:59 PM
VIPER_930, sent you an email through hotmail....

JxMetal
05/21/2007, 09:10 PM
woody that's a rock/flower anemone. I kept one under a 28w light. :lol: yes they are very easy.

Toddrtrex
05/21/2007, 09:20 PM
I only have experience with Hadonii carpets. I have two of them, one for at least 6 years (perhaps longer) and the other for about a month now. Assuming that you get a healthy one to begin with, I have found them pretty easy to keep. I am not saying that is the norm, but just my experiences with them. My yellow/tan one has been kept under both PCs and MH, in both cases I never noticed any difference in how it looked and or acted.
On average I feed it twice a month -- sometime more sometimes less. I am currently in a more phase. Right now both are in my 75 with 6 *65 watts of PC. (( currently saving up for 2 *250watt MH ))

Here is a recent picture (2 weeks ago) Both are normally more open, but had fed them not to long before the picture.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/75FTS.jpg

A close up of the blue one, (( need to get a close of the yellow/tan one)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/blueagain.jpg

Bugs825
05/22/2007, 05:35 PM
I have a Carpet (Sorry, don't know the name. light and dark green stripes) in my 29 gallon. I have had it for over a year and he grows slow because I don't feed him much. I feed him once a week and he is under 130 watts of pcs. he is happy and doing great and only ate 1 lawn mower blenny.

:-)

Nathan

55semireef
05/22/2007, 06:55 PM
bencozzy and Toddrtrex were the only ones that actually specified what kind of carpet anemone they were talking about. When someone says "carpet anemone," they are referring to three different species of the genus Stichodactyla. S. Gigantea, S. Mertensii and S. Haddoni are three carpet anemones so when you use the term "carpet," you could be referring to anyone of those species causing confusion.

jdog6973, when people say "keeping a carpet anemone is difficult" they are probably referring either to S. Gigantea or S. Haddoni since those are the most commonly sold carpets. S. Mertensii is not as frequently sold in the hobby. In my experience, I have kept two S. Haddoni and one S. Gigantea. I have found that under the adequate condtions, keeping a Haddoni is relatively easy. That's not to say that they are easy because what might be common sense to an experienced anemone keeper might not be to an average aquarist. Most anemone keepers in general do not know how to care for one long term which is why statistically 1 out of every 32 anemones kept in captivity only lives passed two years.

However, when I attempted to keep a S. Gigantea, I only managed to keep it alive for about two weeks. These carpet anemones are INCREDIBLY difficult to care for. The chances of having success with this species of carpet is lower than 10% and that's no joke. I would definately avoid even trying S. Gigantea unless you have been keeping anemones for a while.

If it were me, I would do more research on carpet anemones before you buy one. Usually when members here ask questions such as "how hard are they to keep alive," they usually do not know what they are getting into. There are plenty of threads in the "anemones and clownfish" forum to look through that can provide you some information.

woodycb
05/22/2007, 07:49 PM
At least I know what it is now.

elegance coral
05/22/2007, 08:16 PM
If you are looking at a 4" carpet it may be an Atlantic carpet. If so you dont want it. This is the meanist criter I have ever seen in an aquarium. I had one kill a 6" Lion fish. If its not an Atlantic carpet then it is most likely a very ill anemone and you don't want it either.

55semireef
05/22/2007, 09:04 PM
jdog6973, what kind of lighting do you have and how deep is your sandbed?

cook
05/27/2007, 11:10 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9994887#post9994887 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55semireef
However, when I attempted to keep a S. Gigantea, I only managed to keep it alive for about two weeks. These carpet anemones are INCREDIBLY difficult to care for. The chances of having success with this species of carpet is lower than 10% and that's no joke. I would definately avoid even trying S. Gigantea unless you have been keeping anemones for a while.

I agree.

jdog6973
05/31/2007, 08:45 AM
My sand bed is about 2" deep and I have 4X24" compact florescent lights. the tank will be established for about 1 year in Aug. I do appreciate all the feed back every one has given me on the forum!!!!

jer77
05/31/2007, 12:11 PM
You could keep a haddoni with that lighting and substrate. It will eventually grow and take over the whole tank so be careful.

55semireef
05/31/2007, 02:59 PM
Keep your Haddoni well fed and it will grow fast. In my experience, Haddonis acclimate faster too once they start eating and that rule of thumb applies to all anemones as well.

jdog6973
05/31/2007, 03:33 PM
Sorry

BonsaiNut
06/01/2007, 08:58 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9987666#post9987666 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mr Bojangles
well, here is mine, he is about 18 inches. He has probably has grown about 4 to 5 inches since I got in in a year

http://www.reefers.org/album/images/3583_401075.JPG

Hey Bojangles;

I'm pretty sure that is a S. gigantea. You know that right? (Hate to ask, because if you can keep it you probably know what it is).

- BNut

55semireef
06/02/2007, 11:24 AM
BonsaiNut, I am pretty sure this is a Haddoni. I remember Bojangles posted a video of this carpet feeding and it looked just like a Haddoni with no verrucae under the oral disk. Not to mention, this carpet also snagged a purple tang in the tank just like a Haddoni would. I could be wrong though but I am still pretty sure this is a Stichodactyla Haddoni, not S. Gigantea.

elegance coral
06/02/2007, 02:17 PM
Looks like hadoni to me.

ReefingIt
06/03/2007, 06:32 AM
Just a gigantic Hadoni....very nice.

old95er
06/07/2007, 11:41 AM
I have had this carpet for over two years. Feed every other day two pieces of krill. It is 5 inches now, but has expanded to about 8. I just moved it from a 50, to a 120. It seems very happy.


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/58288Green_carpet-med.jpg

I don't mean to hijack, but what clowns can I get to live in this? I already have one true percula in this LTA, and I am about to add another small true percula to make the pair.

Would it be a problem to have two pair and two anemone?



http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/58288percula_lta_hippo-med.jpg

Slakker
06/07/2007, 12:18 PM
It might work out in a 120, but you'll have to proceed with extreme caution...chances are still pretty high that you'll end up with some severe territory struggles.

jimsha
06/07/2007, 02:56 PM
Do carpet anemones like to be placed in the substrate or on rock? When I first put mine in the tank it attached to the glass. I placed it higher in my tank because I only have 4 54w T5's and I am saving up for some 400W MH.

old95er
06/07/2007, 03:18 PM
I have 2 250w XM-10k lights placed about 8 inches off the water surface. Both Anemones are dug into the substrate in between rock.

Your lighting seems barely abundant for your animals. . .IMHO, 400 on a 90 seems excessive both from an electrical usage standpoint and from animal requirements. Go with 250watts. Unless you have a very deep tank.

jimsha
06/07/2007, 08:15 PM
So is mine ok where he is or do I need to relocate him into the sand.

jimsha
06/07/2007, 08:15 PM
So is mine ok where he is or do I need to relocate him into the sand.

I will also take your advice on the 250's instead of the 400's

old95er
06/07/2007, 08:45 PM
They typically move to where they are comfortable. Also, if you try to move them, and they are really attached, you risk damaging the foot.

Leave him, and let him find his place.

I have read here that if they are hungry or uncomfortable, they move alot. When they are satisfied, they stay put.

Someone who knows more could correct this though.

jimsha
06/07/2007, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the help.

zaf888
06/08/2007, 10:11 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9988537#post9988537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
I only have experience with Hadonii carpets. I have two of them, one for at least 6 years (perhaps longer) and the other for about a month now. Assuming that you get a healthy one to begin with, I have found them pretty easy to keep. I am not saying that is the norm, but just my experiences with them. My yellow/tan one has been kept under both PCs and MH, in both cases I never noticed any difference in how it looked and or acted.
On average I feed it twice a month -- sometime more sometimes less. I am currently in a more phase. Right now both are in my 75 with 6 *65 watts of PC. (( currently saving up for 2 *250watt MH ))

Here is a recent picture (2 weeks ago) Both are normally more open, but had fed them not to long before the picture.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/75FTS.jpg

A close up of the blue one, (( need to get a close of the yellow/tan one)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/blueagain.jpg

so i assume u can keep differnt carpet anomes together in teh same tank without them waring? the blue one is so pretty

Slakker
06/09/2007, 12:34 AM
They're both the same species of carpet, and while it's always risky to keep multiple anemones in one tank, it's much safer with the same species.

55semireef
06/09/2007, 03:20 PM
From what I can tell, there are three anemones in this tank. There are two Haddonis and what looks to be a GBTA. I don't see much cause for concern especially because each anemone is spaced apart.

apayne
06/09/2007, 06:24 PM
My Haddoni only moves if I have not fed him for more than a week, other than that he stays put.

GSMguy
06/09/2007, 06:31 PM
fwiw4x54w can be much much more PAR than a poorly reflected 250w halide

you have plenty of light for the haddoni carpets

adtravels
06/10/2007, 09:02 AM
Mr. Bojangles nem LOOKS like a mertens more than anything else certainly NOT a gigantea but is a haddoni. for what anyone caresvery nice but the colour has gone for somereason if I am right in thinkig it is/was a blue Haddoni.

Toddrtrex
06/10/2007, 08:17 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10110490#post10110490 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55semireef
From what I can tell, there are three anemones in this tank. There are two Haddonis and what looks to be a GBTA. I don't see much cause for concern especially because each anemone is spaced apart.

I was out of town all weekend.

But, yea, there is also a GBTA in there --- for a while there I had GBTA, RBTA and the tan/yellow Haddoni. The BTA(s) and tan/yellow Haddoni have been together for over six years now -- only one issue over that whole time - when a clone "walked" over the Haddoni.