View Full Version : quick mrs. wages kalk question
giants4pc
05/23/2007, 02:12 PM
For those dosing...I use 1 teaspoon per gallon and make 18 gallons at a time. My question is that there is always the white powder left on the bottom of the tub. When I mix a new 18 and leave what's in there, do I still put 18 teaspoons again or would I put less and consider what was left on the bottom? I guess my question is...is the saturated remnance useless because even if I don't add anymore at all and still add 18 gallons of water, there is still remnance on the bottom.
Kalk is known for pulling undesireable minerals and metals out of the water. What falls to the bottom is mostly by products (especially if your only dosing 1 tsp per gallon) and does no harm leaving it there. I make mine in 30 gallon batches in my brute can and try to make a habbit of cleaning out the stuff that settles on the bottom a couple times a year.
I would continue adding 1 tsp per gallon, pay no attention to the stuff at the bottom unless it starts turning colors (other than white).
bertoni
05/23/2007, 05:05 PM
A lot of the precipitate might also be calcium carbonate. On exposure to damp air, lime can convert slowly to calcium carbonate, which won't dissolve. Given that you're adding 1 tsp per gallon, what's on the bottom isn't going to dissolve, so I'd ignore it.
giants4pc
05/23/2007, 06:30 PM
So in other words, don't assume that the leftover is 10 teaspoons (for the sake of argument). If I make 18 gallons, add 18 teaspoons.
Right, pay no attention to whats left over.
aquarius77
05/23/2007, 11:28 PM
I actually used it as kalk last week, i think it is mainly lime leftover.
I just dumped new water in and gave it a swirl, as it drips into the aquarium it is still cloudy like saturated limewater would be. Im not saying its full strength but i went ahead and used it. With that being said i do not plan to try and milk it and use the leftovers untlil there is nothing left in the bottom. I just wanted to see for myself if it would disolve into more water if added and it seems that it did.
I will callibrate my ph meter and test the ph on my resivor before it empties. That should tell me if its saturated lime water, right?
bertoni
05/23/2007, 11:34 PM
pH meters are seldom accurate enough at that range to be useful for determining the concentration. A TDS meter calibrated appropriate can handle it.
aquarius77
05/24/2007, 12:22 AM
What would TDS be on Kalwasser made with ro/di source water?
Billybeau1
05/24/2007, 12:34 AM
It would be off the scale, and there is no reason to test the tds of limewater.
Maybe Bertoni can explain what he means. :confused:
Billybeau1
05/24/2007, 12:41 AM
Kevin, lime dissolves in fresh water to saturation at about 2 tsp per gallon. Once you mix it, whatever does not dissolve, are impurities, most likely. Mrs. Wages has some impurities.
If one would use a pure lime, like Seachems, you would see no impurities at the bottom.
I use it and when I dissolve 2 tsp in a gallon of ro/di, I have NOTHING in the bottom of the container.
Not saying Mrs Wages is bad, just once the impurities settle, leave it alone.
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