Got my new Frag Tank!! [Archive] - Reef Central Online Community

jmc74

05/27/2007, 12:59 AM

I picked up my new frag tank on friday, and today i built the stand, is alomost complete, I just need some final touches and paint/sealer

:strooper:

http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/03CuANBNTQWW/__sr_/ba14.jpg?tkn=phg5RWGBOlN7CGjz&saveas=Frag+tank+004

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SALT WATER CRAZ

05/27/2007, 02:23 AM

Links dont work

jmc74

05/27/2007, 02:33 AM

oh, sorry.... let's try again...

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cpreefguy

05/28/2007, 01:41 AM

nice! what are the dimensions of it?

jmc74

05/28/2007, 05:41 AM

you mean the tank?

48x24x12

Lenny C

05/28/2007, 07:16 AM

Hey, Juan, Great looking tank! Sorry I couldn't hang out and talk longer on Friday, I left the family at the food joint without a ride home. Hope that pump works out well for you. I'm going to have to check out pricing for my new tank with thoes guys.

Dave

jmc74

05/28/2007, 12:30 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10028427#post10028427 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lenny C
Hey, Juan, Great looking tank! Sorry I couldn't hang out and talk longer on Friday, I left the family at the food joint without a ride home. Hope that pump works out well for you. I'm going to have to check out pricing for my new tank with thoes guys.

Dave

no, problem... it was nice meeting you and a great deal on that pump, I can't wait to setup my frag tank, I just don't have the sump yet :(

jmc74

05/29/2007, 09:41 PM

ok, here are the updated pictures :rollface:

Complete Frag Tank & Stand
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/520901041_bf0094890b_b.jpg

ALL LIGHTS ON!!!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/520901013_75d49ab05d_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/234/520901039_33fe2bd275_b.jpg

ACTINICS ONLY
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/520901017_63749d1954_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/520901033_3a138d240b_b.jpg

jmc74

05/29/2007, 09:41 PM

METAL HALIDE ONLY 15,000K
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/247/520899673_5f025a3a1a_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/520899655_72ef341018_b.jpg

MOON LIGHT ONLY
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/520903157_93c1ba01c6_b.jpg

ALL ON!! READY FOR SOME FRAGS :smokin:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/520899625_cdfe299954_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/520899571_9e9bcb0c14_b.jpg

cpreefguy

05/29/2007, 09:55 PM

That is one awesome frag tank!

jmc74

05/30/2007, 01:20 AM

thanks

:D

but I can't wait till I find a suitable SUMP :(

drummereef

05/30/2007, 02:45 AM

That's an uber nice frag tank. Are you plumbing it into a display or is it a seperate system?

jmc74

05/30/2007, 03:57 PM

it will be a separate system

jmc74

06/01/2007, 03:02 AM

ok.... i need an opninion here

I just got my sump is a 50G Plexy tank open top, and it has a small divider, it will have live rock (currently i bought 40# but it was dry for few months) the tank (sump) is 36" long, should I drill the side to put a bulkhead and connect my MAG 12 external? or should I just set it inside the sump? I will be running also an EuroReef R6 and I don't want to get too hot the frag tank, since I don't have a chiller and it is on my garage

:confused:

SteveOhh

06/02/2007, 01:55 AM

I've got the same size frag tank & I only use a Mag 7 internally for my return......Sump is a 40 Breeder & I also have a 15 gallon fuge................IMO I don't like a whole lotta flow thru the sump. I also run a ER 135 skimmer..............doesn't get to hot, however I have my AC set to turn on a fan over the tank @ 78. For flow in the tank, I use a Koralia 4..works great...Link to my setup..... http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1130055

Nice tank too!!! ;) Not to be to nosey, but what did it set you back?

Steve :D

miatawnt2b

06/02/2007, 10:14 AM

Love to see those Odyssea Lights ;) Looks Great! Good luck! Keep the pics coming.
-J

da1jewfish

06/02/2007, 11:18 PM

very nice!! I'm sure everyone wants some post coral pics.
I want to knwo what type of wood u used? like 4x4s, 2x4, etc?
are u going to put the sump on very top of the stand or are u putting it somewhere else?
wtg

jmc74

06/02/2007, 11:59 PM

I used 2x4 "Dry" Premium Quality, I wanted the wood to be as dry as posible to avoid warpage, and since the 2x4 I got were completely dry, onece I painted them I basically sealed them from the moisture.

I also used galvanized brakets, and deck screws (they are rust proof), and the 3/4" OAK for both levels, is better than plywood, I also used 1" foam insulation at the bottom of the tank and sump, to cushion them, as i don't want any strees points.

and finished the stand by painting it ULTRA WHITE ACRYLIC LATEX base 2 for EXTERIORS rolled and then SPRAYED (very messy :rolleyes: )

I'm still working on the electrical, trying to decide where it fits better...

jmc74

06/03/2007, 12:57 AM

ok here are more pic's now running...

full shot
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1110/527193554_a707d0f5b6_b.jpg

WATER IS A LITTLE GREEN STILL, FROM "CLARITY" I HAVE ADDED, SINCE THE ROCK ON MY SUMP TINTED THE WATER BROWN
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/245/527193552_5fb5c4bf82_b.jpg

OK MUCH BETTER NOW....

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1024/527181950_c2c87d4436_b.jpg

MY DIY...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/527181954_006beedd0b_b.jpg

jmc74

06/03/2007, 01:00 AM

ANOTHER SHOT
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/527181958_cdb7f31301_b.jpg

THEY WORK GREAT!!!! THIS IS ABOUT 3X THE ORIGINAL FLOW FROM MY MAG12

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/527181976_1f87556704_b.jpg

MY SUMP

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/233/527181980_8cf98567fe_b.jpg

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jmc74

06/03/2007, 01:04 AM

NICE 1 1/2" OVERFLOW DRAIN
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1155/527281309_8850819d7d_b.jpg

SPLIT RETURN/WATER CHANGE VALVE/FUTURE SURGE
note CSS 65 overwhelmed by clarity, and the bottom look slike sandy sludge

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1011/527181982_f18f23a616_b.jpg

FRAG PLUGS AND DISKS FROM BOSTON AQUATICS GETTING READY

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1092/527281321_f49d5cf520_b.jpg

jmc74

06/03/2007, 01:13 AM

MY NEW FRAG TRAYS TO SEPARATE MUSHROOMS, ZOO'S, ETC.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/527281325_9d58371871_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1181/527281341_0fba3f5739_b.jpg

THIS ARE MY FRAG DIP TRAYS (TO REMOVE ANY PEST, BY EITHER IODINE OR FW DIP)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/527281347_1049f58768_b.jpg

COMPLETE w/ DRIP BIN
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jmc74

06/03/2007, 01:14 AM

AND ALMOST READY ALL LIGHTS ON!!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1062/527193556_caced469b4_b.jpg

Lagger

06/04/2007, 06:33 PM

Thats sweet. Love the set-up. :D

jmc74

06/04/2007, 07:28 PM

thanks

:p

Doahh

06/04/2007, 10:06 PM

Dang!

I think I'll have to set something like this up...
Are you going super formal on this pro and making it a business?

jmc74

06/04/2007, 10:43 PM

not formal, but this is my second try at this (frags) the first was a big failure, so this time im taking my time, and trying to acquire the right equipment vs trying to upgrade as we go... I learned the cheap equipment sometimes does not work (except I still got cheap lights :D , but if the don't work right, i can just upgrade either ballst or bulbs, and still less expensive than getting a top brand fixture...)

also i wanted to look right at home, since my garage has white cabinets all arround, so i pianted the stand white too.

if i do good on this, maybe next Christmas, I'll setup a Dual 8' x 4' x 1.5" frag tanks... but only if this takes off nice...
:p

ReefExtreme

06/08/2007, 07:18 PM

looks great. how much was the tank

jmc74

06/08/2007, 08:32 PM

$350 special order, and they finished in only 4 days!!, include was the large overflow and a 1.5" bulkhead

ReefExtreme

06/08/2007, 09:18 PM

that a very good price. i think i will call them

jmc74

06/08/2007, 10:07 PM

I know, that's why I posted their Info, on the picture, the quality is comparable to TRUVU, but at half the cost...

the same tank, I called TRUVU before and they wanted to sell it thru a dealer only.. BS.. well, I told them to call Aquarium Concepts, and the price was a ridiculous $589 plus tax, and 2 weeks to make it, then delivery time to the store, and it didn't include bulkhead either, that's extra

so I took my business elsewhere... and I did remember long ago finding by error Marine Marine Systems, in San Jose. so I searched again, and after a long, long search... finally I found it!

TCU Reefer

06/09/2007, 12:58 AM

Very nice setup.

Can you explain the DIY returns a bit more?

Also, is the light fixture always going to be at that height?

jmc74

06/09/2007, 01:19 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10107617#post10107617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TCU Reefer
Very nice setup.

Can you explain the DIY returns a bit more?

Also, is the light fixture always going to be at that height?

thanks

the DIY are a split return with EDUCTORS, so I have great flow, I even think it may be too much :eek1:

also yes, the lights are fixes for now, until I can tell if the light is needed lower, all I have to do is change the mounting, and add the suspension cables.

crazzy

06/09/2007, 01:53 PM

Very, Very nice, Thanx for sharing.
Where did you get you Frag Drip trays

reef165

06/09/2007, 04:56 PM

whos the maker of the lights and whats the wattage of the MH?

jmc74

06/09/2007, 09:46 PM

they are ODDYSEA, the same as the coralife, and they are dual 250w HQI ,4x 65w PC actinics & 6 sets of 2 wide spread LED moon lights

ntrlfive

06/10/2007, 03:02 AM

looking good :]

reef165

06/10/2007, 12:50 PM

yes looking realy good, do you think that one with a single 250watt MH would light a shallow 32X32 tank ?

jmc74

06/10/2007, 06:28 PM

I personally don't know, but it seems like it would...

now I have a question for the experts here:rolleye1:

ok, my lights are "DUAL 250w HQI 15k, it also has 4x 65w Actinics Blue, should i lower the lights or will this be enought light for my frag tank, currently they are 17" above the tank, or 18" above the water or 26" above the eggcrate.

!!!!!!FEEDBACK IS REALLY NEEDED!!!!!

RobSW1

06/10/2007, 06:55 PM

It seems really high to me.....personally i would do maybe 12" above water....i think this will give optimal growth.

JMO tho
Rob

Kentanner11

06/10/2007, 07:35 PM

Hey where did you get your trays, and FW dip trays at? REALLY COOL!

jmc74

06/10/2007, 09:17 PM

I went to a 99cent store and found the trays w/handle, then i seached for regular trays that will fit arround them... just a DIY dip trays :p

jmc74

06/10/2007, 09:18 PM

ok, also the small white trays, are a"drawer organizer"

ntrlfive

06/12/2007, 12:12 AM

how good is the craftsmanship on the tank, also the clarity, i called them and that guy sounded like someone who does it out of his garage

jmc74

06/12/2007, 01:07 AM

the quality is great! i get lots of complements when they see it in person... and is just as good as TRUVU, seems are clear, buffed edges, etc. they have 3 shops, but the build it on one shop, not on the one at 10th st...

give it a try, you don't have to pay until you pick up, so if you don't like it, just tell them

ntrlfive

06/12/2007, 02:32 AM

what thickness acrylic did you go with again? i dont want it to bow at all for half inch thick it was 100 more bucks and the tank wouldnt be much more work then your frag tank really, thanks again whens the frag tank ready for corals?

jmc74

06/12/2007, 11:30 AM

mine was made of 3/8" and is it stong, no bow anyware.

jmc74

06/12/2007, 11:33 AM

btw. i just set few frags to see how they do... only about 5 small frags, some are zoas, acros, etc.

so far onlu one has bleached out, the others still ok, today is day 4

AndyH5512

06/12/2007, 03:42 PM

That is awesome! Did I read correctly that the frag tank was $350 special ordered? Did you pick it up, or was it delivered? If it was delivered, what company delivered? Thanks.

compulou

06/12/2007, 05:41 PM

Excellent frag setup JMC, I'm actually setting up something similiar to this in my garage. I read the whole thread but don't see much info on what equipment your actually using. What return pump are you using, I saw that you mentioned using something that is much better than the Mag12 you were using. So what are you using now. Also how much total volume of water is in this setup? And lastly what skimmer is that? Looks like a Coralife Skimmer.

Thanks and good luck bro.

jmc74

06/12/2007, 08:37 PM

ok, here the info in the equipment I'm using

TANK: 48"x24"x12" (approx 60 US gal.) open top 3/8" acrylic, center overflow, 1.5" drain. Price $350 "NEW"

SUMP: 36" custom (approx 50 US gal.) Price $80 "NEW"

LIVE ROCK: Approx now 60-80lb (bought it DRY, it was about 40lb) Price $40

SKIMMER: Euro-Reef RS80 Price $150 shipped "NEW" from RC member (this was a raffle winner, that didn't need it) :D

MAIN PUMP: Mag 12 Price $60 "USED, like new" from RC member

DIY: EDUCTORS they work GREAT!!! DIY from RC and spend about $5 on parts @ LOWE'S

LIGHTS: Oddysea 2x 250w HQI 15k, 4x 65w PC Actinics, 10x 180degree LED moonlights (no spots here) :p , Cooling fan Price $400 @ AQUATRADERS (local pickup)

HEATER: 300w fully submersible

AUTO TOP-OFF: Coralife Float-valve mounted on Sump & connected to my RO Price $19

COOLING: HONEYWELL Wall mounted Fan $9.99 (LOWE'S)

jmc74

06/12/2007, 08:40 PM

Here are some updated pictures

I had to lower the lights to about 12" above the water
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1259/543091972_5b4fd8a006_b.jpg

some test frags...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1311/543091996_23eeec5c5b_b.jpg

Not the best looking, but well see how they develop
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1172/543091982_5308393231_b.jpg

I had to cut my Candy cane, is just too big, so here
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1056/543092014_40d3fce5cf_b.jpg

jmc74

06/12/2007, 08:45 PM

more frag pics (sorry about the quality, my camera SUCK's)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1058/543092022_8e12cb6fd9_b.jpg

some ugly zoas :rolleyes:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1381/543207297_5a888e9416_b.jpg

here with some algae, not mine :lol:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1108/543207301_c71010c458_b.jpg

this is/was a red plate... I don't know why I don't see the colors, maybe I need less blue

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1134/543207313_5453d332fc_b.jpg

jmc74

06/12/2007, 08:46 PM

at least this look ok
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1381/543207317_b103887ccc_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1325/543207323_62cfd3fa46_b.jpg

jmc74

06/12/2007, 08:48 PM

oh, and last... my Euro-Reef after one full day!! I don't know were all this crap is comming from... I wonder if it is food? Phyto or Roty.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/543092004_ae933775ec_b.jpg

edwing206

06/12/2007, 08:56 PM

Looks sweet! That's some nice skimate.

MrMikeB

07/24/2007, 02:43 AM

Very cool! WorldMarine are building my tanks as we speak/type. I went with the same depth and am happy to see how it looks like on your system.

Did you use foam or anything to keep the tank level? Also, is your WB on the camera off or does it really look that green?

Thank you for sharing - keep us posted with the progress!

jmc74

07/24/2007, 02:05 PM

no, the Wb was off, and the lights had a very cheap ballast, plus not to mention the algae bloom i had...

now i have CoralVue ballast and 14k Bulbs and it is nice and white/blue

compulou

07/25/2007, 12:45 AM

How about an update on what you have in there?

Looks sweet!

jmc74

07/25/2007, 01:16 AM

same as on the pictures, just the candy canes are alot bigger, well actually more heads.. I had not added anything yet, i was waiting to overcome the algae face, is almost done, i have cleaned the eggcrate 2 times already, and I still see just a tad green on some areas, so until I see that it really stops, i don't want to risk loosing frags over algae...

customanimalart

07/25/2007, 12:29 PM

very nice I bet that's a bit costly!!

jmc74

07/25/2007, 01:52 PM

nope, $300 and WMS in San Jose

Nuuze

07/25/2007, 04:53 PM

Wow! Nice setup! Any updated pics?

customanimalart

07/25/2007, 05:14 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10411286#post10411286 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmc74
nope, $300 and WMS in San Jose

Sweet deal!
And those green zoas are pretty, it's the algae that looks bad:D

Shrimpster

07/25/2007, 08:44 PM

Hey jmc your frag tank looks amazing!!!! I was wanting to start something similar to yours. I've never messed with frags before and know absolutely nothing about the set-up, however is there a special frag tank avalible like yours or is it just a 60 gallon because i would love to have one just like yours. Please pm me about it. thx so much!

jmc74

07/25/2007, 09:01 PM

I ordered mine custom made, it is a 48x24x12 w/side center overflow, I paid $300 at World Marine Systems... but you might want to search for a closer tank builder. also the tank mfg. had a 50g sump that they sold me for $80

Maximus

10/14/2007, 03:21 AM

Is this company still in business? I would love to have a sump made by them. Thanks.

jmc74

10/14/2007, 02:32 PM

yes they are just call them M-F

mrme

10/15/2007, 03:40 AM

what are your water perimeters ?
You aren't getting much polyp extension on your acros, sps..

jmc74

10/15/2007, 12:08 PM

tank was new... but now I do have good polyp extension....

sad I have to sell all the live stock and equipment...

see the for sale thread.

temec_luver

11/12/2007, 01:51 PM

updates??

LedZep fan2

11/14/2007, 10:05 PM

Looks amazing!! Thinking about adding any fish? How about a PBT tang:D

dattack

11/15/2007, 05:24 AM

Looks like he sold everything.

zach0660

11/17/2007, 04:09 PM

This is a sweet frag setup especially close to around $1k. Cant wait to see it fill up with some more frags.

fishstick41

12/14/2007, 01:20 PM

nice tank =] any thing new?

Chrisrush

12/14/2007, 04:59 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10975096#post10975096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmc74
tank was new... but now I do have good polyp extension....

sad I have to sell all the live stock and equipment...

see the for sale thread.

Nammy

12/17/2007, 01:48 PM

Nice work

jmc74

12/17/2007, 09:07 PM

thanks...

BTW, I still have the frag tank, I have not sold it yet, it has produced about $300 worth of frags :)

and i don't think in my area are too manny reefers interested on the tank, so it looks like I will be keeping it ...:rolleye1:

sad part is that i sold the calcium reactor and ph monitor, c02 tank, etc. but the lights and tank, live rock, etc. never was sold.

sbwood007

12/22/2007, 09:28 PM

Keep us up dated!!

ls7corvete

12/22/2007, 09:52 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11406128#post11406128 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmc74
thanks...

BTW, I still have the frag tank, I have not sold it yet, it has produced about $300 worth of frags :)

and i don't think in my area are too manny reefers interested on the tank, so it looks like I will be keeping it ...:rolleye1:

sad part is that i sold the calcium reactor and ph monitor, c02 tank, etc. but the lights and tank, live rock, etc. never was sold.

Awsome, post some pics of your current tank and stock!

jmc74

01/03/2008, 02:39 AM

well, this monday I re-organized the frag tank, i completely removed the old egg crate, and cleaned all the algae it had grown in the tank, also i removed all 120# of LR and placed it on the tank to support the new black egg crate, so no more PVC legs, also i cleanned the sump, skimmer, pumps, etc. now is nice and clean, i will be getting a new cleanup crew and let them clean the plugs, rock, sand, etc.

i hope no more algae.... pic's will follow soon.

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:14 AM

ok, picture update time...

I finaly organized the tank to get it ready for the Frag Swaps on this area comming soon...

Bay Area Reffers (BAR) Member Frag Swap on Feb. 09, 2008
M.A.R.S. Local Club Frag Swap on March 1, 2008

I can't wait :lol:

here are some updates:

I received 75 new aragonite plugs and 50 new aragonite Disk from Oceans Wonders and they are great!!!

also I made a small frag station to help me frag faster and better :D

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184860816/" title="Frag Tank '08 043 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2082/2184860816_74345a1198_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 043" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184070287/" title="Frag Tank '08 036 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2167/2184070287_310bbd4177_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 036" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184859552/" title="Frag Tank '08 040 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/2184859552_f6400de73f_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 040" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184858296/" title="Frag Tank '08 037 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2316/2184858296_9b5255a3b7_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 037" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:20 AM

and thanks to my wife main tank for supplying the frags.. :lolspin:

here is few shots of my wife's main tank (formally mine :( )

sorry about the glass, she has not clean it yet...
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184110173/" title="Frag Tank '08 125 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2193/2184110173_1ca382e78d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 125" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184105763/" title="Frag Tank '08 118 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2069/2184105763_4923a5944d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 118" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:25 AM

now I will need help getting the correct names of the corals I will be fraging and the ones I already have, as I'm very bad with names, and I didn't keep proper records of their names.

here are some picture of the future DONORS

sorry, some shots are a bit blurry...
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184887924/" title="Frag Tank '08 114 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/2184887924_76a3159555_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 114" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184098721/" title="Frag Tank '08 102 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2092/2184098721_65f9c767e9_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 102" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184885126/" title="Frag Tank '08 097 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2370/2184885126_f2e73224c2_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 097" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184096753/" title="Frag Tank '08 096 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2184096753_528342c5be_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 096" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184095821/" title="Frag Tank '08 093 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2104/2184095821_4a6c4af2eb_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 093" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184880722/" title="Frag Tank '08 087 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2261/2184880722_73fd31faae_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 087" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:28 AM

some more...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184092405/" title="Frag Tank '08 080 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2184092405_bca98e9911_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 080" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184878428/" title="Frag Tank '08 074 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/2184878428_39b3769013_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 074" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184877428/" title="Frag Tank '08 073 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2283/2184877428_147b82e1fe_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 073" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184876342/" title="Frag Tank '08 072 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2184876342_ea2afb5407_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 072" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184875050/" title="Frag Tank '08 071 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2081/2184875050_6b79eef618_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 071" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184087201/" title="Frag Tank '08 068 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2184087201_d1c9f061b0_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 068" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184086179/" title="Frag Tank '08 066 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2160/2184086179_e698c556cc_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 066" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:33 AM

more :D

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184871908/" title="Frag Tank '08 065 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2184871908_0bb9b8458b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 065" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184083887/" title="Frag Tank '08 064 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/2184083887_92952149ee_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 064" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184082931/" title="Frag Tank '08 062 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2184082931_c57da9bacf_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 062" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184868940/" title="Frag Tank '08 061 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2416/2184868940_587b17de4b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 061" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184080943/" title="Frag Tank '08 058 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2102/2184080943_3affa9e518_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 058" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184866830/" title="Frag Tank '08 055 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2184866830_3b55f41681_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 055" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184078731/" title="Frag Tank '08 054 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/2184078731_e80830c135_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 054" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184864410/" title="Frag Tank '08 053 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2105/2184864410_be8469bc6a_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 053" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184076551/" title="Frag Tank '08 050 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/2184076551_ff39256983_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 050" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:38 AM

ok, that was lots of pictures... he, he

if anyone can identify some of the corals on the pictures, please post the name and description, please..

ok now I have a small addition to my frag setup, it is a 15g Long TRUVU that I will use for Zoas and low light stuff.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184850714/" title="Frag Tank '08 018 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2040/2184850714_f5fe7b35de_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 018" /></a>

at this moment is has the crappy light that was included, but I will retro into dual 65w PC for 130w for 15g tank. :D

this is one of the few items on it, oh and it shares the filtration with my main frag tank

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184924602/" title="Frag Tank '08 177 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2184924602_50db02a1c3_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 177" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:43 AM

ok, and finnaly the frag tank shots....:dance:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184138625/" title="Frag Tank '08 179 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/2184138625_ea99df3286_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 179" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184139591/" title="Frag Tank '08 181 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2184139591_455e72a955_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 181" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184920292/" title="Frag Tank '08 170 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2089/2184920292_ab7dd2f87d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 170" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184128803/" title="Frag Tank '08 165 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2184128803_3aa4a58e59_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 165" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184852912/" title="Frag Tank '08 030 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/2184852912_ccf5ba019c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 030" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184061793/" title="Frag Tank '08 008 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2184061793_3c72268e01_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 008" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184847090/" title="Frag Tank '08 007 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2078/2184847090_32308296a9_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 007" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184845952/" title="Frag Tank '08 005 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2217/2184845952_cfe4d32bac_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 005" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184136577/" title="Frag Tank '08 173 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2184136577_62d7d9f01f_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 173" /></a>

jmc74

01/11/2008, 02:45 AM

more...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184058301/" title="Frag Tank '08 004 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2233/2184058301_40d7d35ae9_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 004" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184843722/" title="Frag Tank '08 003 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/2184843722_6843be09df_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 003" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184056045/" title="Frag Tank '08 001 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2342/2184056045_bfc9038868_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 001" /></a>

and finally my recently reorgenized and clean SUMP :lol:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2184065185/" title="Frag Tank '08 021 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2036/2184065185_9874ac24f4_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Frag Tank '08 021" /></a>

bobaking

01/11/2008, 03:51 AM

looking good!

Jester

01/11/2008, 09:38 AM

Wow...!!!! Looking good... a frag tank is in my future...

jmc74

01/11/2008, 10:07 PM

thanks :)

jgskt620

01/14/2008, 07:32 AM

very nice frag setup

rbrusletto

01/14/2008, 09:24 PM

man this setup is awesome!

el Deutche

01/15/2008, 01:47 AM

You have a link for Oceans Wonders? I couldn't find it. Nice pics, love your setup.

AcidDriver

01/15/2008, 06:52 PM

holy crap, i have not seen a better setup, no lie. I have a 20g frag, but thinking of revving up my "coral farm", around how much did all of this run, I need a sort of estimate to startup.

Amazing setup

Rue

01/16/2008, 12:18 PM

Nice! I'm in the process of having a small frag tank custom made for me...so it's very interesting to read other people's experiences with theirs.

jmc74

01/16/2008, 09:44 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11602770#post11602770 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by el Deutche
You have a link for Oceans Wonders? I couldn't find it. Nice pics, love your setup.

here it is:

http://www.oceanswondersonline.com/page/page/4221064.htm

jmc74

01/16/2008, 09:58 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11607617#post11607617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AcidDriver
holy crap, i have not seen a better setup, no lie. I have a 20g frag, but thinking of revving up my "coral farm", around how much did all of this run, I need a sort of estimate to startup.

Amazing setup

thanks for the comments....

I think I spent about $1500

here are some prices as I remember...

CUSTOM FRAG TANK 60G PLEXY 48X24X12 $350
CUSTOM SUMP 50G PLEXY $80
80LB LIVE ROCK (I BOUGHT IT DRY) $60
ODYSSEA FIXTURE 2X250W MH, ETC. $450
EUROREEF RS80 $150
DUAL 300W HEATERS $50
MAG 12 RETURN PUMP $50
CUSTOM STAND (BUILD BY ME) $100 MATERIAL ONLY
SMALL WALMART FANS 3X $5 EA
COMMENTS YOU RECEIVE $PRICELESS :lol:

jmc74

01/16/2008, 10:10 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11612605#post11612605 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rue
Nice! I'm in the process of having a small frag tank custom made for me...so it's very interesting to read other people's experiences with theirs.

All I can say is, be patient, very patient....:rolleye1:

as I have been thru a roller coaster, I almost sold everything "TWICE" and I almost got out of the hobby once...:eek1:

but after all, I'm here still going and i thing finally I will get to see the results, even as I have already had sales of the frags I had for about $350 in 1 week... not bad, sadly it was when I had my stuff for sale, but no takers on the tank allow me to hold on to it, and now I'm not selling it "NO MORE!!!"

I will be attending the regional SWAP on Feb, 09,2008 from my club BAR. so I'm fragin like a MAD man. my egg crate as we speak is about 60% full and I'm not done yet! :lol:

ls7corvete

01/17/2008, 01:01 AM

So you were trying to sell the setup and instead bought a 15long??? Sounds like something I would do.

Looks great. IMHO, grow more softies and start making your own plugs and live rock. That is my plan if I ever get around to it.

jmc74

01/17/2008, 01:26 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11619136#post11619136 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ls7corvete
So you were trying to sell the setup and instead bought a 15long??? Sounds like something I would do.

Looks great. IMHO, grow more softies and start making your own plugs and live rock. That is my plan if I ever get around to it.

not exactly...

you see; I had the 60g frag tank and a 20g Long AGA and a 15g Long truvue, also my wife has my old 75G reef tank, at one point for several reasons, I decided to get out of the hobby, and I never did, actually I only took a small break, but since my wife keep the 75G main tank, I got involved again on it...

then for few months I build this 60G frag tank, only to fail badly and grow only algae :mad2: , so I got fed up, and decide to sell it all! well I only sold few items, like the CA reactor, ph meter, 20G long, etc.

but no body wanted the 60G frag tank, because it is big, and the stand is custom, so it goes with it, and it is even bigger. so after giving it some time and see that my sell was un-successful, here I'm again, except this time I'm taking a different route, and I organized the tank differently, and I got to try different way to minimize the algae growth, as the introduction of few beneficial fishes, crabs, snails, etc.

so this is my 3rd try, and like they say 3 times a charm. this should be ok. I hope :(

ridinfast03

01/18/2008, 03:22 PM

Your WIFES tank looks good, what is its setup like?

jmc74

01/18/2008, 11:43 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11631139#post11631139 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ridinfast03
Your WIFES tank looks good, what is its setup like?

thanks

it is a 75G glass seamless, 160lb of LR, EuroReef RS80, Odyssea 48" Dual 250w MH, CoralVue EBallasts, 14k phoneix bulbs, 4x65w actinics, Dual chamber MTC CA reactor, etc. and so far all is good!

jmc74

01/20/2008, 12:42 AM

GREAT NEWS!!!!

thanks to James (an RC member, that I don't know it's username)

I now have a 2nd 48x24x12 BRAND NEW TRUVU, soon, I will have a DOUBLE DECKER System.

I will modify my custom stand to lower the uper shelf and make a 2nd level for more FRAGS.. :)

Tennsquire

01/20/2008, 03:14 PM

Nice setup. How is the eggcrate in your frag tank supported. Is it just lying in the rock below?

jmc74

01/20/2008, 08:20 PM

yes it only sits on the LR, i place the rocks even so it has multiple support points...

jmc74

02/15/2008, 01:17 AM

UPDATE!!!!

ok, here are some shots of the new tank almost ready...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2265716593/" title="New Frag tank 021 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/2265716593_a19913f545_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="New Frag tank 021" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2265713929/" title="New Frag tank 018 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2356/2265713929_cf734f797d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="New Frag tank 018" /></a>

jmc74

02/15/2008, 01:18 AM

some more of my new bulbs...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2266511848/" title="New Frag tank 039 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2257/2266511848_dc1ff8ccf1_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="New Frag tank 039" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2266512758/" title="New Frag tank 040 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2266512758_58aff5a387_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="New Frag tank 040" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2266502914/" title="New Frag tank 015 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2059/2266502914_f3e0cf4306_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="New Frag tank 015" /></a>

jmc74

02/15/2008, 01:20 AM

2nd reflector ready to go in to the old new frag tank.. :)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2265721259/" title="New Frag tank 038 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2168/2265721259_86606d3f69_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="New Frag tank 038" /></a>

jmc74

02/15/2008, 01:21 AM

rick12

02/15/2008, 01:14 PM

thanks for sharing all your work.

jmc74

02/15/2008, 07:17 PM

thanks

Jester

02/15/2008, 07:40 PM

I cant wait to setup my frag tank... but I dont really have anything to frag yet... heheheee

jmc74

02/16/2008, 03:37 PM

you'll always find things to frag.... if you have a main tank, you have frags. :)

Ed Ricketts

02/16/2008, 05:30 PM

jmc74 A few great things

I see your construction of your supports is first rate. Also, it looks like you painted everything white, which is pure genius, given the predominant color of salt creep...

Thanks for the prices on your setup on page 4 of this thread. Lets everyone know how you arrived at a sweet setup. AND $300-400 for a frag tank sounds expensive until you snuggle it in amongst the rest of the setup.

Thanks for the thread. And when one really studies the photos, your wife's tank really has tremendous details only available to those with established tanks. There's zoos in every little nook and cranny. Cool, indeed!

jmc74

02/16/2008, 09:03 PM

thanks Ed

yes my old tank (wife's) is my unlimited supply of frags ;)

and it can be expensive at first, but you soon realize this is fun and 200% worth every penny...

last weekend I was at our local club frag swap, and I bring to the swap 42 frags!! some not the greatest, but some were nice, and it only gets better from here, as the new lights are even better.

Jester

02/16/2008, 11:31 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11863704#post11863704 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmc74
you'll always find things to frag.... if you have a main tank, you have frags. :)

You're definitely right... I break an arm off my digi every time I clean the glass... those are potential frags... heheheee

erics3000

02/18/2008, 05:09 PM

love this setup..

jmc74

02/18/2008, 07:38 PM

thanks

as i type this, I just finshed installing a 40G DIY Refugeum, so now the total system voulme is about 200 Gal.

60G x2 frag tanks
Sump 50g about 80% full (40G)
Refugeum 40G

pics will follow soon

:)

xenon

02/18/2008, 09:25 PM

Do you not find your skimmer is too small to process that volume of water?

Maybe its because you dont have any fish in there.

How do you feed your corals? confused:

foolish08015

02/18/2008, 09:37 PM

Wow that is a very clean setup !

jmc74

02/18/2008, 10:05 PM

well actually, I do have 3 fishes: 2 algae blenies and 1 Yellow tang.

but i don't have nitrates, as I don't feed the fishes, the blenies ignore the food, and the yellow tank can careless for it, as it graces all day long on algae :(

jrthomas40

02/20/2008, 12:25 AM

this tank is awesome....i just finished getting my frag tank together after weeks of working on it

jrthomas40

02/20/2008, 12:57 AM

here is a question for you...why did you go with a sand bed??

jmc74

02/20/2008, 02:36 AM

actually is Aragonite, and it helps keep the PH stable, I had the same issue on my main tank, and I found that if you add a small bed of aragonite the ph will balance so it wont keep going up/down, also the calcium stays about 450-500, because it is coral sand...

jmc74

02/20/2008, 03:00 AM

see this is my current ph level

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8587656@N08/2278449245/" title="Dual Frag tank 026 by jmc74, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/2278449245_f0be70832a_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Dual Frag tank 026" /></a>

jmc74

02/20/2008, 03:09 AM

ok, PiCture time...

:)

UPDATE!!!!

* NEW SETUP IS UP AND RUNNIG
* REFUGEUM IS UP
* NEW PH MONITOR WORKING 100%

TOTAL WATER VOLUME NOW: !!!!!200 US GALLONS!!!!!

my little helper

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PH MONITOR FROM EBAY'S "GRATDEL"

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SUMP GETTING BUSY

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NEW DIY REFUGEUM 40GAL

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jmc74

02/20/2008, 03:16 AM

AND FINALLY THE FRAG TANKS W/ NEW LIGHTS

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OLD FRAG TANK

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NEW FRAG TANK

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jmc74

02/20/2008, 03:16 AM

COLONY TANK

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LITTLE FRAGS IN TANK
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