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ghostrida3
06/19/2007, 06:08 PM
has ur tank ever had any real effect on ur waterbill?

Hop
06/19/2007, 06:21 PM
Sure... thnk about 450-800 gallons of RO/DI water at a 98% rejection rate:lol: But my grass and garden don't seem to mind the waste water.

poppin_fresh
06/19/2007, 06:21 PM
An RO that is used for heavy top offs and W/C might raise the bill a little, especially if its a crappy unit with a high waste/good ratio.

ghostrida3
06/19/2007, 06:28 PM
the thing is i share a house w/ a family of 6. the guy i rent from is my best friend and there his cousins. he owns the house. ime there probably all of 30hrs a week, they are saying because of my 125 gal i should py half the water bill. this is hilarious. i probably use about 20 gallons a week at the most. the bill is 80 they want me to py 40 no way thats going to happen.. a couple of months ago their bad kids spray painted my car and they havent made any attempts to rslv. i just wanted to run this buy u to see if ime crazyy, i had a house by myslf w/ an aquarium and my water bill was never over 30$ this is w/ showers and all.

Hop
06/19/2007, 06:33 PM
Sounds like it's time to get out and nevermind the water bill!

ghostrida3
06/19/2007, 06:37 PM
only thing i can think of is maybe they think i have water hooked up to the tank or something. u know how people who have never had a reef tank get intimidated by the equipment. what 30 gallons a month in most states like 3$ or something on the water bill? ime curious?

kh6sat
06/19/2007, 06:37 PM
Not as much as my electric bill !! :)

PRINCE_NAMOR
06/19/2007, 07:01 PM
I live in Marietta. No way is a 120 gallon affecting the water bill that much........

MarineFishGuy
06/20/2007, 02:13 PM
http://www.tampagov.net/dept_water/conservation_education/Customers/Water_use_calculator.asp

No way is your tank adding $40/month to the water bill. My total bill is only $18/month and I have a 75g tank w110g sump. (2 people in an apartment wo dishwasher)
See the link above for a water use calculator.

If you have an RO/DI filter with a rejection rate of 95%. To produce 20 gallons, you are using a total of 400 gallons a month.

That is equivalent to an 80 minute shower with a normal shower head over a months time.

Or put another way, it is the same water consumption as one person taking a 2.5 minute shower each day. Even if you use 40 gallons a month, that is only a 5 minute shower per day.
Tell em to pound reef sand.
HTH,
Ken

TheMcs
06/20/2007, 03:40 PM
What kind of RO/DI units are you guys running that have 95-98% rejection rates?!?

Doahh
06/20/2007, 03:53 PM
Guys that 98% rejection rate is the TDS rejection...
Waste water is generally about 1/4 or 1/2 good/bad

ghostrida3
06/20/2007, 05:44 PM
thanks guys i had to run it by u to make sure i wasnt insane.. i should be moving shortly. ahh my own place again i cant wait.

Hop
06/20/2007, 06:42 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10180389#post10180389 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Doahh
Guys that 98% rejection rate is the TDS rejection...
Waste water is generally about 1/4 or 1/2 good/bad

I'll have to measure it someday:) But with a TDS that soars to over 580 in the spring and looking at the jet out the waste and trickle out of the DI, I'm guessing it's pretty high:lol:

MarineFishGuy
06/21/2007, 05:19 AM
I produce about 1 gallon of RODI water for every 6 gallons of waste water or about 84% rejection. Although it has been a long time since I tested this so it may have changed.

I used 95% since I don't know what unit he has and I wanted to consider "worst case" scenarios.

Either way, the Water Use Calculator is very insightful in determining what activites contribute the most to the water bill.

While the RODI filter may increase the bill by $5-10/month, $40 is excessive for sure when considering normal topoffs/water changes on a 120g tank.

p4ck37p1mp
06/21/2007, 08:05 AM
I'm in Acworth not far from Marietta, and my TDS going into my RO/DI is 30ppm, so you aren't wasting much water if your water is similar to mine. You waste more water in the shower than your tank is using, unless you do 50% water changes everyday. =P

RichConley
06/21/2007, 08:59 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10183882#post10183882 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarineFishGuy
I produce about 1 gallon of RODI water for every 6 gallons of waste water or about 84% rejection. Although it has been a long time since I tested this so it may have changed.

I used 95% since I don't know what unit he has and I wanted to consider "worst case" scenarios.

Either way, the Water Use Calculator is very insightful in determining what activites contribute the most to the water bill.

While the RODI filter may increase the bill by $5-10/month, $40 is excessive for sure when considering normal topoffs/water changes on a 120g tank.

Thats not rejection rate. Rejection rate is something totally different. NO ONE has a 20-1 waste:product ratio. You're 6-1 is well outside the normal range of 2-4:1


Water is EXTREMELY cheap. I bet your tank isnt adding more than $1 a month.

Remember, a normal shower is 5g/min. So a 15 minute shower every day is 2200 gallons a month. You're using how much for your tank? 100?

AmosUSA
06/21/2007, 09:23 AM
I guess i am lucky i get all my water free from my research lab i work at.

Nano Chris
06/21/2007, 09:25 AM
Not to worried about our water bill, we use (what the water bill says about 30,000 gallons which is about $66 or so every 6 months (if i recall. Don't know how we use that much... Its the electricity we have to worry about, where i live they raised ours by 50%!

blu iz
06/21/2007, 09:49 AM
Even with 30 tanks in our house largest a 180 down to a 10gal. Our water bill is only $32. Right now with the water restrictions down here we go to LFS now for RO water (instead of doing our own) for SW tanks, planted tank and top off water for FW tanks (in between cleanings)... not paying $500 fine for going over 7800 gal per month..

FateX8
06/21/2007, 11:13 AM
yeah theres no way that you can be using that much water to make a large enough impact that it would actually matter

p4ck37p1mp
06/21/2007, 11:14 AM
Here we can water our vegetables anytime, so thats our out. I run the waste line to the garden and can use as much as I want. Plant a tomatoe plant! ;)

ghostrida3
06/21/2007, 12:45 PM
ime actually in acworth as well havent updated my sig. but i guess ime movin now anyway so might as well not even bother,

p4ck37p1mp where are u buying most of ur stuff from?

p4ck37p1mp
06/21/2007, 01:11 PM
Alert, mini thread-jack in progress... =P

Marine Fish and Cappuccino Bay, Marine Fish has a better fish selection and is higher priced, Cap Bay has better coral frag choices and is closer. I'm still used to Ft Lauderdale prices, things are twice as much here. Been buying frags from RC members, but I like to see fish first so I'm eating the difference. In FLL you can buy a huge (8" across) coral colony of most things for $50, here a little frag can be $75.

ghostrida3
06/21/2007, 01:23 PM
yeah i agree capp bay is probably the best in town in my opinoion as far as corals and there fish are a higher quality than marine fish as well, its just there fish list is usually short. have u been to the fish store in buckhead?

dcombs44
06/21/2007, 01:26 PM
My water is included in my rent. My RO/DI doesn't cost me an extra dime :)

bitis316
06/21/2007, 03:40 PM
I have 6 tanks, 4 of the over 100 gallons.....2 people, a dog, two cats, a Greentree python, and several other critters...My bill for everything including trash, water, and all is 80 a month.....3 bedroom, 3 bath house...

RichConley
06/21/2007, 04:09 PM
7 people taking showers is why your bill is expensive.

DaveG99
06/21/2007, 04:27 PM
I dont pay for water in my building.

PRINCE_NAMOR
06/21/2007, 05:58 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186514#post10186514 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ghostrida3
yeah i agree capp bay is probably the best in town in my opinoion as far as corals and there fish are a higher quality than marine fish as well, its just there fish list is usually short. have u been to the fish store in buckhead? The fish store in Buckhead is very overpriced. They dont even try to compete with other stores. Cap. Bay is the way to go..... Or online.

ghostrida3
06/21/2007, 06:06 PM
yeah its like the closer u get to atlanta the more u can expect to pay. marine fish use to be alot better but i think there under new managment. also atlantis aquarium on roswell rd has ok prices but their fish are gauranteed to be unhealthy.

vessxpress1
06/21/2007, 06:32 PM
Many towns like mine, have a flat rate for water, which may be the case where you live.

Our town charges you a flat rate of 84 dollars, quarterly, which includes a 2 bag garbage pickup every Tuesday and 15,000 gallons of water over a 3 month period. If you use more than that, then their rate kicks in on top of it. Which, I don't know what that is because we've never even been close to going over that with 2 people living here. I don't need much RO/DI either.

If I was gone for 3 months and didn't use any water or garbage service, I would still be charged 84 dollars.

Your place may have the same deal where they're only charged quarterly and he's really asking for 13 bucks a month. Most places, water is very cheap.

ghostrida3
06/21/2007, 06:43 PM
no its monthly. its just easier for them to blame things on me..i think the high waterbill is from the washing machine always being on. and the 6 other people in the house showering and crapping but i could be wrong. my 20 gals a week in water changes could be doing it. i just go the ro/di so that hasnt been reflected on the bill yet.