Mag mixing question

[roxy25]

Ok I bought a kit but i mixed my Mg solution according to randy's article one gallon but when i go to your site its says makes 20oz ?

which is it ?

i nearly dose 1000 ml in my 30 gallon nano in the course of 2 days and my mg is still 935

[Snarkys]

which kit did ya buy ?

one of the normal kits comes with an appropriate amount of mag to be used with the calcium and magnesium bags and you mix the small bag of mag with 20oz of water. these kits are made for maintaining your levels once you already have them up where you want them.
http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=5

the starter package is different . often when you are first staring you need a lot of mag to get the levels back up from where they are. For this reason we include enough to make a full gallon of mag solution (5 cups of mag chloride and 3 cups mag sulfate)
http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=71

the directions are mainly based around the portioned kits but also include directions for the bulk packaged items.
http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=page_4

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10176010#post10176010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snarkys
which kit did ya buy ?

one of the normal kits comes with an appropriate amount of mag to be used with the calcium and magnesium bags and you mix the small bag of mag with 20oz of water. these kits are made for maintaining your levels once you already have them up where you want them.
http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=5

the starter package is different . often when you are first staring you need a lot of mag to get the levels back up from where they are. For this reason we include enough to make a full gallon of mag solution (5 cups of mag chloride and 3 cups mag sulfate)
http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=71

the directions are mainly based around the portioned kits but also include directions for the bulk packaged items.
http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=page_4

I bought the first one listed. I asked a ton a question before I bought the kit and nobody told me I needed the starter kit great :rolleyes:

[Snarkys]

well ya don't "need" it .

main reason we offer it is because it often takes a lot of magnesium to raise the levels to 1300. We don't want to see people have to use most of the smaller magnesium packages in the kits just to get the levels up.

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10178738#post10178738 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snarkys
well ya don't "need" it .

main reason we offer it is because it often takes a lot of magnesium to raise the levels to 1300. We don't want to see people have to use most of the smaller magnesium packages in the kits just to get the levels up.

I understand what you are saying but I bought the small kit and diluted in in one gallon of water so its useless now

[Snarkys]

nah, it's not useless : )

Think about it . you can dilute the bag of magnesium on 20oz of water or in one gallon of water , it is still the same amount of magnesium in that jug .

Normally when you are done with a gallon of alkalinity and calcium you would add the whole 20oz container of magnesium . instead you are going to add the full gallon that you made . The only difference is it has more water and the water will evaporate in the tank : )

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10179618#post10179618 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snarkys
nah, it's not useless : )

Think about it . you can dilute the bag of magnesium on 20oz of water or in one gallon of water , it is still the same amount of magnesium in that jug .

Normally when you are done with a gallon of alkalinity and calcium you would add the whole 20oz container of magnesium . instead you are going to add the full gallon that you made . The only difference is it has more water and the water will evaporate in the tank : )


so dump the whole gallon ?

i only have a 20 gallon nano with ten gallon sump

well its not a total gallon any more I used about 1000ml lol

[Bebo77]

what was it that i told you again?...hmmmmm

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10179685#post10179685 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
what was it that i told you again?...hmmmmm


lol shut up u didn't answer my question about the water volume .

all u said was to dump unknown amounts in my tank and you even said if I OD i can fix it lol yeah that sound real smart lol

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10179713#post10179713 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by roxy25
lol shut up u didn't answer my question about the water volume .

all u said was to dump unknown amounts in my tank and you even said if I OD i can fix it lol yeah that sound real smart lol



LIAR...

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10179731#post10179731 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
LIAR...

no I am not u said start dosing . I never dose with out getting some kind of idea on how much to dose. don't make me pull up the aim convo lol

[Bebo77]

lol.. well in this case... dose all of it..

hmmm didnt i say something along those lines?

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10179760#post10179760 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
lol.. well in this case... dose all of it..

hmmm didnt i say something along those lines?

you told me to dose a lot lol how do i know what is a lot or too little with my tank ?
thats my concern

thats it no lessons of slr use and no idaho grape your on time out mister lol

[Bebo77]

lol

[Snarkys]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10179665#post10179665 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by roxy25
so dump the whole gallon ?

i only have a 20 gallon nano with ten gallon sump

well its not a total gallon any more I used about 1000ml lol

this is how it works . you mix up a gallon of alk and a gallon of calcium . when you completely empty both you add the magnesium . for you i would guess this would happen once every couple months. .

so when it comes time, empty the whole gallon of mag in there. you prolly evaporate a gallon a day so the extra water is no big deal .

BTW i don't think anyone should just go pouring anything in the tank when they don't know what they are doing and you are wise to question it but hes right in the fact that it it would prolly be OK to add the whole thing now and test where you are at. If you test now and it reads less than 1000 PPM mag then i would just add the whole thing now and test again the next day : )

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10180537#post10180537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snarkys
this is how it works . you mix up a gallon of alk and a gallon of calcium . when you completely empty both you add the magnesium . for you i would guess this would happen once every couple months. .

so when it comes time, empty the whole gallon of mag in there. you prolly evaporate a gallon a day so the extra water is no big deal .

BTW i don't think anyone should just go pouring anything in the tank when they don't know what they are doing and you are wise to question it but hes right in the fact that it it would prolly be OK to add the whole thing now and test where you are at. If you test now and it reads less than 1000 PPM mag then i would just add the whole thing now and test again the next day : )

i added the whole gallon in my tank and my mg is 1200 . so with the other kit I have how often do I add the mg? would I have to added it if I do a water change ?

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186745#post10186745 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by roxy25
i added the whole gallon in my tank and my mg is 1200 .


man, i am a genius...;)

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186753#post10186753 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
man, i am a genius...;)

for some one who owns tangs I find it funny how you didn't know what the spots by their tails where

LMAO genius

Like a said how genius is it to dump unknown amounts in your tank

[Bebo77]

but i was right...

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186910#post10186910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
but i was right...


only by chance LOL

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186923#post10186923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by roxy25
only by chance LOL


Chance had no part of it my dear.. it was all skill...

:D

[roxy25]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186931#post10186931 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
Chance had no part of it my dear.. it was all skill...

:D


really so you have a nano ? lol

[Bebo77]

lol... if you call my 14g a nano... then yes i do....

[Snarkys]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10186745#post10186745 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by roxy25
i added the whole gallon in my tank and my mg is 1200 . so with the other kit I have how often do I add the mg? would I have to added it if I do a water change ?

OK you can either try and raise it to 1300 or just call 1200 good enough . Considering that a small percentage of reefers properly maintain magnesium , at 1200 you are prolly doing better than 95% of the people out there.

use this calculator to find out how much alkalinity and calcium you need to add to get to the proper levels. shoot for 7-11 dKH (alk) and 450ppm (calcium)
http://twopartvideo.com/calculator/tps_calculator.html

after that you just maintain these levels with daily additions.
at the bottom of this page you can see how much to start using every day . http://www.twopartsolution.com/index.php?main_page=page_4 . when you completely empty a full gallon of alk and a full gallon of calcium mix another package of mag up with 20oz of water and pour it in. Your tank doesn't use near as much magnesium as it does calcium and alkalinity.


BTW you are both right , it would be stupid to add a whole gallon of something to your tank because some stranger said so. Bebo is right because he know that if you had not been maintaining magnesium before it would be low and the diluted full gallon would never be enough to raise it to dangerous levels .