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speedstar
07/11/2007, 08:20 AM
OK I have had this tank sitting around now for months, it is time to get started on it. Tank is 50X50X24
The Plan

1) Basement Sump
2) Flow return will be a Seq 3200 Alternating 2 eductors
3) CL on iwaki70 on oceansmotion 4way
4) Bare Bottom
5) Lighting will be 2 400w 10K's(light mover) w/t5 for blues
6) Geo Ca Reactor
7) H&S skimmer current, will be upgrading too a octopus nw300 (money dictates this, wish i could afford bigger H&S)
8) Top off's via litermeter 3
9) Going to complete the stand in ceramic tile (really liked this on my last tank)
10) Tank will be SPS dominated
11) going to try for a more open look but the problem is i have too many corals that need space on rock.
12) Convince the girlfriend it isn't to big for the living room.

Hopefully now that I've made this post i'll get in gear and get it built up.

invincible569
07/11/2007, 03:12 PM
John, cant wait to see you start on this! Especially the ceramic tile for the stand.

speedstar
07/11/2007, 03:45 PM
This is my old cube tank, I really liked the tile on it as it matched the fireplace tile as well. Gonna do this one similar, but will also have a half tile on the top before the tank.

http://home.comcast.net/~breakabranch/stand.jpg

clamdigr
07/12/2007, 11:04 AM
Looking forward to following your progress John.

JGermanow
07/12/2007, 11:43 AM
John, The Tile looks great! I might have to borrow this idea for my next tank. :D I will be following this thread. Good luck on getting motivated.

invincible569
07/12/2007, 01:58 PM
That tile does look nice!

Is that your wife and your protector?

TriGa22
07/12/2007, 04:55 PM
This is going to be awsome!

Purple Haze
07/12/2007, 05:54 PM
Any pics of your current tank? The links seem to be broken from what i've found in this forum in some of your old posts.

speedstar
07/12/2007, 08:36 PM
The old cube tank was torn down :( due to money / divorce etc. The only thing i didn;t like about it was the 30inch depth. Thats why this one is only 24"

My current tank is a 150g
Here are some quick pics of it.

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/mi5.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/mi1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/mi2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/mi3.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/fts1.JPG

speedstar
07/12/2007, 09:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10326878#post10326878 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by invincible569
That tile does look nice!

Is that your wife and your protector?

Ex-wife and dog died of a strange spinal disorder. It is the only pic I have showing the fish stand. We still get along fine so there is no bitter problems or anything.

speedstar
07/12/2007, 11:38 PM
Oh boy this stand is huge, my girlfriend is gonna kill me. Good thing she has a whole room for her scrapbook hobby.

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/bigst.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/bigst1.jpg

speedstar
07/13/2007, 06:12 PM
Finished sanding all edges smooth. Picked up the tile and got it cut as needed. Had to modify my original tile ideas alittle due to me skirting the stand in half inch and not 1/4, but all should look good when done. Tiled pics by sunday im hoping.

Genin
07/13/2007, 09:05 PM
I can tell this is going to be a great build. That's funny that your girl's hobby is scrapbooking, that's my wife's hobby and how I get away with my reef crap also.

clamdigr
07/13/2007, 09:25 PM
LOL...My wife is into that stuff too...I get away with alot with the reef tank because of it....plus I built her craft room way bigger than my fish room. ;)

speedstar
07/13/2007, 11:18 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10337166#post10337166 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clamdigr
LOL...My wife is into that stuff too...I get away with alot with the reef tank because of it....plus I built her craft room way bigger than my fish room. ;)

Amanda's scrap room is pretty big also, I have a shelving desk project ahead of me in there though. Some of that stuff is pretty cool. the cricut die cutting machine is one thing i like. The scary part is we have more into scrap crap than into fish tanks. Time for me to catch up :)

I've begun to lay out the tile.

http://www.breakabranch.com/laytile.jpg

clamdigr
07/14/2007, 03:33 PM
Looking good John, I love the look of the tile. I don't remember the layout, is the tank going on a wall or in a corner? How many sides viewable?

speedstar
07/14/2007, 03:38 PM
Against a wall three sides viewable. One right next to couch, I'll put my name on that spot. I'm just worried about the lilttle one or the one on the way (Nov 7) wanting to jump in. I built this stand low as I like the top down prospective. Stand is only 18" in height.

speedstar
07/14/2007, 09:28 PM
Small setback this evening, I thought after 2hours my tile would have setup enough. I couldn;t lift it off, but sure enough as soon as i flipped the stand todo another side. The tiles started to slide they all ended up on the floor shattering three of them. Grr what luck ive had lately. Well one side is now set again. Gonna let it set overnite. Going to get some 10minute epoxy todo the other sides tomorrow. Just didn;t want to spend the extra money on epoxy, but i have very little patients.

clamdigr
07/14/2007, 10:24 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10340790#post10340790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by speedstar
Against a wall three sides viewable. One right next to couch, I'll put my name on that spot. I'm just worried about the lilttle one or the one on the way (Nov 7) wanting to jump in. I built this stand low as I like the top down prospective. Stand is only 18" in height.

Jump in your seat or jump in the tank? Canopy or open top? Even if they don't try to go for a swim, things may get tossed in. I used to maintain a reef tank at the middle school my wife worked at, semi open top, I found popcorn, paperclips and change in there, including pennies. Closed it off after that.

Found this in my tank once......OK, I put it in there but still..:p


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/17153who_s_the_wiseguy_.JPG

reefnetworth
07/15/2007, 06:20 AM
i too have little patience with tile. 465 Sq Ft in kitchen and dinning area. try Liquid Nails, i guarantee they will not slide after 20 minutes!
place it on the tile and wood and let it cure about 3 minutes first. then stick em together with even weight distribution, and grout away the same day! :D
JDM :cool:

clamdigr
07/15/2007, 01:11 PM
Liquid nails..great idea I'd never thought of that.

TandN
07/15/2007, 07:50 PM
cant wait for more pics

speedstar
07/15/2007, 09:45 PM
Believe it or not the liquid nails slid after 2 hours. I couldn't easily lift the tiles up but once rotated verticle they slipped. Had to end up sandwidching the tiles between wood screwed it in the grout seems. here is a pic..

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/pinch3.jpg

jzdad
07/19/2007, 03:38 PM
hey speedstar,

I work a lot with tile. If you dont mind a suggetion.Go to home depot and get some hardiback board it comes in 3x5, 1/4 inch thicknest get the screws that are for the hardiback .Nail it to the wood and get the thinset paste in the bucket (set 1) apply to the hardiback and wait it will be a better bond because tile and paste have a hard time bonding to wood and it works sometimes and sometimes when you least expect it, one pops off . So for a stronger hold , trust me that hardiback board will satisfy you beyond belief.And while you wait for it to dry ,work on something and in no time you could finish your MASTERPIECE, looking forward to this one because I love TILEWORK, btw your tank is awesome , so I know this is going to be kick butt. get to it , looking to see some more pic soon.

Jzdad.

speedstar
07/20/2007, 08:24 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10373596#post10373596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jzdad
hey speedstar,

I work a lot with tile. If you dont mind a suggetion.Go to home depot and get some hardiback board it comes in 3x5, 1/4 inch thicknest get the screws that are for the hardiback .Nail it to the wood and get the thinset paste in the bucket (set 1) apply to the hardiback and wait it will be a better bond because tile and paste have a hard time bonding to wood and it works sometimes and sometimes when you least expect it, one pops off . So for a stronger hold , trust me that hardiback board will satisfy you beyond belief.And while you wait for it to dry ,work on something and in no time you could finish your MASTERPIECE, looking forward to this one because I love TILEWORK, btw your tank is awesome , so I know this is going to be kick butt. get to it , looking to see some more pic soon.

Jzdad.


thanks for the info, i'll use it next time. When I lost patients I went to the hobby store got a bunch of 5minute epoxy and epoxied them all in place down the grout lines that will be covered with grout.

Not much progress made this week other than deciding a new location for the tank. I now get to try to snake 1.5" spaflex over an existing cieling through joists. Ahhh the fun. tank should be much more pleasing in this location.

jzdad
07/21/2007, 04:43 AM
Glad to see things are going well with the tile , but man spaflexing through the ceiling now that is going to be some project, so good luck.

Just a guestamation, how long do you think it will be before you have it done and can begin the addition of water and transfer of livestock?

speedstar
07/24/2007, 06:26 PM
The tank has made it to its resting place, I have just cut my corner tile pieces and will sert them tonight. Grout should be complete before the weekend.

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/set3.jpg

Target date is sept 1st for completion, lighting might hold it up though.

jzdad
07/24/2007, 07:28 PM
Speedstar,

Looks good and Sept 1 is around the corner,

What light are you going to get/or use? Are you going to make a tile canopy?

speedstar
07/24/2007, 07:38 PM
Lighting is still up in the air. I'm leaning towards only 2 400w MH 10k's plus t5 blue. Then putting it on a roatation device to spin it 355 degrees and then back. Effectivelly covering the reef at half the cost of 4MH's that it should have.

Purple Haze
07/25/2007, 02:35 PM
Making progress for sure.

speedstar
07/25/2007, 06:48 PM
Here is abit better pic, It should really start looking nice once the grout is done and in place.

http://www.breakabranch.com/better.JPG

I still have to clean and polish all the scratches etc out of the tank. I swore i'd never do another acrylic, but here i am again. Couldn;t beat the tank price so i took it.

speedstar
09/04/2007, 03:28 PM
Got one side of the tank cleaned and polished. Took abotu 6 hours.. 2 sodes togo. Built the clear mesh screen for the top to keep the fish in and the nwanted kids toys out. Also got the grout into the tile. It is plumbed to the basement. I have to drill three more holes. I am going to have 2 CL's one on a sequence barracuda and 4way and one on a iwaki and eductors.


http://breakabranch.com/T.JPG

TandN
09/04/2007, 03:47 PM
why so low ?

speedstar
09/04/2007, 04:02 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10700648#post10700648 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tanya72806
why so low ?

Perfect height for viewing from couch, will be able to get a nice top down prospective if standing that the SPS corals IMO look best at. This way the kids can stand and look in it also.

Dejavu
09/04/2007, 11:59 PM
looken good, I have to get over soon and check it out in person.

bob21115
09/19/2007, 08:53 PM
Any updated pictures?

speedstar
09/24/2007, 08:00 PM
I bought the do any size window kit up to 60X60. I cut the side rails as needed put in the corner pieces and stretched the mesh across. I actually pulled it to tight and distorted the frame some, but im OK with it. Yes I got the mesh from Jim. It passes the toss coins in test fine and repels em all ;)

Amanda"s craft room was a quick toss together. Just built a temp desk, shelves and put up some peg board. I didn;t have much of a budget to work with. (i boougt corals instead shhhhhh). All her tote cases are full. I actually think in machines and supplies the totals more than my tanks.

http://breakabranch.com/T3.JPG


http://breakabranch.com/T2.JPG


The mesh is framed with a standard window kit. Lifts on and off. Kinda trick how it ended up recessed. The manufacture did a terrible IMO job of a eurobrace and layed it on top of one another. However this came in handy for the overall screened look and resting, it comes out about flush now.

http://www.illscrapforyou.com/topsc.JPG


Also I have decided on a lighting scheme for this tank, one bulb in a lumenarcIII. UHI-S1000BL
UPDATE just also ordered the new coralvue reflector will be comparing the two.

picked up all the needed spa flex, unions, bulk heads, ball valves and hard line for what i drew up for plumbing (nope don;t have a pic or cool cad drawing, it is on the back of a McD's bag) so the glueing shall begin soon. Most likely not till wed night work a double tomorrow. I also had the Barracuda and Iwaki running the water in the tub to test the seals for leaks all good no drips. Now my daughter wants them on the tub for every bath......

Basically the Barracuda will run on a OM 4-way 12hours/day, The return pump will goto a OM super squirt running 4 penductors continous, the iwaki will run CL to 2 eductors 6 hours/day.


Slow going this weekend, I made some portland/sd/salt rocks, dropped one batch and brok into a ton of pieces bottom fell outta mold box. Was able to get the plumbing through the ceiling/floor and have the drain plumbed from tank to sump. Also the return is fully plumbed. On the CL's i was able to drill remaining needed holes, add bulk heads and plumb the intake and valves still need to do the out's from pumps to tank.

Spa-flex is a PIA to work with. I would have been done had i just used hard pipe.


Weekend went pretty well. I started by melting the slat out from my DIY rocks with hot water. Whoever doesn;t believe they are pourus is crazy check out the video. HOW DO YOU EMBED QUICKTIME? Video will take some time to load.
http://www.breakabranch.com/por.MOV

Here is the rock in a tub and also in the creek

http://www.breakabranch.com/tub.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/creek.jpg

Ok got the tank plumbed and FW leak tested only one little drip that quit on it's own.

http://www.breakabranch.com/plumbback.JPG

Closed loop pumps will be enclosed in a little sitting bench in front of the window.

http://www.breakabranch.com/clpumps.JPG

Only leak

http://www.breakabranch.com/leak.JPG

speedstar
09/24/2007, 08:03 PM
Here is a video of the basic flow of the tank, the floaties are all PVC shavings that were trapped in the pipe when cut. This doesn't include my sequence 1000 return pump only the two CL's.

It is 30 meg so give it some time to load... it is quicktime.

http://www.breakabranch.com/flowtop.MOV

speedstar
09/24/2007, 08:05 PM
The main sump and filter room is downstairs, currently have an H&S skimmer. I have on order the reeflo ORCA skimmer. I run a GEO reactor if i didn't mention it earlier.

speedstar
09/29/2007, 08:04 PM
Installed and dialed in.... The pics are before i dialed it in.. Take a look at the vid for how it is running now.

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/reeflo4.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/reeflo3.jpg

LINK to some small movies of it in action. you'll need quicktime to view them.



http://home.comcast.net/~murphyjjr/reeflo1.MOV

speedstar
10/01/2007, 07:45 PM
Tank is filling slowly with RO/DI right now, been on since friday night about half full.

speedstar
10/03/2007, 05:44 PM
Cranked up the pressure from 40 t0 60 making water abit faster and about full this weekend it should be fully plumbed to system and circulating.

dvmsn
10/04/2007, 08:59 AM
You could have a crafting army in that craft room.

Julio
10/04/2007, 10:11 AM
love the skimmer!! how is it working for you?

adddo
10/04/2007, 12:08 PM
Wow great setup! Definitely looking forward to see more progress on this.

Please spoil us with plenty of pics. :)

Von_Rahvin
10/04/2007, 01:45 PM
love the layout of how low the tank is. the cube is going to be sweet

speedstar
10/04/2007, 02:01 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10901349#post10901349 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dvmsn
You could have a crafting army in that craft room.

I actually think her scrap-booking hobby cost more than my tank!

speedstar
10/04/2007, 02:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10901831#post10901831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Julio
love the skimmer!! how is it working for you?

The new skimmer is working well, the only problem is that i believe the skimmer chamber is too small on startup you need to ease into the air or it will displace the water too quickly and overflow. This is a problem in the event of a power outage. My temp fix i have is that i moved it to a feed pump from being gravity fed. Now if the power fails the skimmer will back siphon down abit through the feed pump. It really is alot of pump for the size of the skimmer. It is doing a better job than anything i've owned in the past.

speedstar
10/04/2007, 02:05 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10903421#post10903421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Von_Rahvin
love the layout of how low the tank is. the cube is going to be sweet

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10902776#post10902776 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adddo
Wow great setup! Definitely looking forward to see more progress on this.

Please spoil us with plenty of pics. :)


Thanks alot i'll be sure to post pics.

speedstar
10/04/2007, 02:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10903421#post10903421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Von_Rahvin
love the layout of how low the tank is. the cube is going to be sweet

Alot of people feel that it is too low, but IMO/E i love it.

speedstar
10/04/2007, 02:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10903421#post10903421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Von_Rahvin
love the layout of how low the tank is. the cube is going to be sweet

A lot of people feel that it is too low, but IMO/E i love it.

speedstar
10/08/2007, 05:41 PM
Tank is fully plumbed into old system and is flowing water, still need to get the lighting squared away then i'll be all set to move some rock and livestock.

I have a wild fiji order comming this week hopefully there will be some nice pieces in the cases.

Work schedule is brutal so probably not gonna be much progress till the weekend.

speedstar
10/13/2007, 10:14 PM
picture story..

http://www.breakabranch.com/to1.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to2.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to3.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to4.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to5.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to6.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to7.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to8.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to9.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to10.JPG

speedstar
10/13/2007, 10:15 PM
http://www.breakabranch.com/to11.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to12.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to13.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to14.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to15.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to16.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to17.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to18.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to19.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to20.JPG

speedstar
10/13/2007, 10:16 PM
http://www.breakabranch.com/to22.JPG

http://www.breakabranch.com/to23.JPG

invincible569
10/14/2007, 01:50 PM
THAT TURNED OUT GREAT!!! VERY NICE

speedstar
10/15/2007, 03:09 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10969644#post10969644 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by invincible569
THAT TURNED OUT GREAT!!! VERY NICE


Thanks.

I picked up a couple new fish over the weekend, solar wrasse, blue sided wrasse and a red sea tang. I want to add a school of fish anyone have ideas for a good schooling fish of 8~15 depending on size?

Genin
10/15/2007, 05:53 PM
suweet turnout! that looks great. i love cube tanks. i definately see one in my future if it would turn out like that.

jgs107
10/16/2007, 08:40 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10977255#post10977255 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by speedstar
Thanks.

I picked up a couple new fish over the weekend, solar wrasse, blue sided wrasse and a red sea tang. I want to add a school of fish anyone have ideas for a good schooling fish of 8~15 depending on size? i think the best schooling fish are anthias...they are a little expensive but they really bring out a nice tank