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MarineGirl411

07/19/2007, 02:04 AM

Hi,
I've only seen a couple. I ordered a teal hammer coral from reefscience and mistakenly got sent a pink. =*( I was so disappointed. Someone got my teal hammer. Anyway, do any of you know of who sells them? I haven't seen another like it since. I saw a light teal hammer on ebay, but I don't trust ebay for livestock. I've had problems with Ebay at certain items. >=/ If you know, can you tell me? Also, anyone have pictures of theirs? I'd love to see them.

vessxpress1

07/19/2007, 08:44 PM

I've never seen one and I doubt they exist. Chances are the seller had full actinics on for the picture, over the pink one you got. Then when you got it, you got to see the real color. A lot of places these days trying to pass stuff off as teal, or blue when they're really not.

Stick with companies you can trust, that don't use strong actinics and who offer multiple shots of the coral under different lighting and maybe even with flash. Especially when buying a more expensive piece. Any decent seller should do this automatically, although very few do.

Some sellers will do anything out of desperation to move livestock. Kind of sad. Almost like false advertising. Most anybody with a conscience won't do it.

vessxpress1

07/19/2007, 09:00 PM

Do a search for 'hammer coral' on ebay right now (within the next 24 hrs). 3 pics will come up. The bottom one is the exact same type as the top one, but they look completely different. The bottom one is under heavy actinics and the tips appear to be teal.
While the seller is not trying to pass the coral off as a teal color, the picture is a bad representation of what it actually looks like.

All I've seen for hammers and frogspawns are pink/ pink tips, green/ pink tips, and pink with green tips. I have seen white ones but don't know if it was bleached or not. If they come in other colors, I have never seen them.

MarineGirl411

07/19/2007, 11:19 PM

Do you have a copy of the coral book by Eric Borneman? They have a section in there on hammers. It seems as though the hammer in there is a dark blue hammer. If there is really no such thing, why would people offer teal hammers for sale? =*( I've seen 2 already.

ViPeR_930

07/20/2007, 01:54 AM

I'll have to look at that book this weekend. I've seen grayish hammers, but nothing close to blue/teal.

Did you see the teal hammers in person, or just pictures? Pics can differ a lot from what it really looks like.

MarineGirl411

07/20/2007, 02:12 AM

Pictures. Pictures from the Eric Borneman book, pictures from ReefScience and also pictures on ebay. They were all labeled as Light blue hammer coral (under a 14k phoenix, and a turquoise hammer. =(

Hormigaquatica

07/20/2007, 12:49 PM

Check out page 457 in Sprung/Delbeek Reef Aquarium vol. 2. There is a photo pf a tank belonging to Ricardo Miozzo, in Brazil. That is the only photo of what appears to be a blue hammer that I have ever seen. (I love his whole tank, but that particular animal Really sticks out)

Thhitman

07/29/2007, 10:57 PM

I have a blue branching hammer about 10" or so, its more of a teal blue/green but more blue than green.

mikekman

07/29/2007, 11:36 PM

Can someone post pics of a blue hammer? That would be crazy if there was a hammer that was blue like a tubs blue zoo!

While we are on the same topic, any such thing as a red hammer or yellow hammer?

Kigs

07/29/2007, 11:49 PM

it will never be that blue. the definition of blue when it comes to euphyillia is more close to peachy gray, the term exaggerated to 'blue' imo

Hormigaquatica

07/30/2007, 12:36 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10442590#post10442590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kigs
it will never be that blue. the definition of blue when it comes to euphyillia is more close to peachy gray, the term exaggerated to 'blue' imo

I strongly suggest you check out the book I referred to above. I promise, its right there ;) Ricardo is a well respected reefer... excellent specimens.

MarineGirl411

07/30/2007, 12:36 AM

I'd love to see some pictures as well! Please post pictures! =)

Ace1

07/30/2007, 12:49 AM

i have seen yellow hammer corals in person they were under MH 400w at a LFS, and yes they were really yellow

Hormigaquatica

07/30/2007, 01:23 AM

Weve got some metallic orange ones at work- Im gonna have to get one one of these days. Not as rare as yellow or true blue, but still a cool alternative to the usual green/purple/tan.

mikekman

07/30/2007, 01:27 AM

Ace1 -have pics of a yellow hammer? Would like to see a pic

Hormig -can you take pics of the orange hammer? HOw much is your lfs selling them for and do they ship ;)

Hormigaquatica

11/12/2007, 12:53 AM

Yeah, I know, Im digging up and old thread ;)

After seeing the orange hammer sit at work for the last several months, I finally had to bite the bullet and get it. I just got it in the tank, so its not open much yet, and yes the halides are out for the night so this is just a T-5 actinic. Overall, I have to admit the photo pretty much sucks 100%, just use it to compare the color to the normal green frogspawns by it ;) But its still pretty freaking orange even with the halides one. Just crossing my fingers that it recovers from the move alright- it was not pleased about the trip home.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Aguabeast/General%20240%20pix/OrangeHammernFriends.jpg

SVXH6

11/12/2007, 01:10 AM

sweet.. a store in my area has orange torchs and orange hammers.. they look awesome and will definately be an eye catcher for sure.. im just wondering how they will hold their color in the longterm seeing you dont really see too many of them.. i will be picking up an orange torch in the next few weeks for sure!!

MarineGirl411

11/12/2007, 01:09 PM

Wow! That is so cool! Make sure to get a picture when it opens up. It looks beautiful. Still looking for that special hammer. =) Thanks for bringing back the thread. That was a long time ago. ;-)

Coderabit2

11/13/2007, 11:46 PM

Any shots of it opening up?

hollback

11/14/2007, 07:17 AM

Nice Aaron. Any updated shots? I see it is a branching variety. I will have to trade you a frag in the distant future. ;)

MetalReef9

11/27/2007, 01:35 PM

REEF AQUARIUM VOLUME 2. DELBECK & SPRUNG.
Hormigaaquatica already referenced it on page 457. The same blue hammer is in the opening pages of the book (larger pic). I have drooled over that blue hammer for years.

Hormigaquatica

11/27/2007, 01:48 PM

:( It decided it wasnt going to open. *sigh* Ill try another one (if Im able to get another some day).

And yeah, if I can get another one to grow out, we will talk Hollback ;)

Kinetic

11/27/2007, 05:18 PM

i have a pale teal hammer. It's slightly translucent, and I thought it was just a bleached one. It's actually pretty awesome, but not radiant teal like you may be looking for. I'm going to take a picture this week =)

MarineGirl411

11/27/2007, 05:57 PM

I'd love to see a picture. =)

Underwaterparadise

11/27/2007, 06:47 PM

IMO it's all in the lighting and the photo. I have seen thousands of Eyuphyllia corals and have never seen (in person) a true Orange or a true blue one. Some of them can look teal with enough blue light and the fact that most peoples tanks are standard glass that has a green tint to it. That green tent can alter the color we see as well.

I would have to venture to say if there was indeed a true Orange or Blue that there would be frags for sale every where since they are a fast growing coral and would garner a lot of money for a frag!

Just my .02c

Hormigaquatica

11/27/2007, 07:00 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11267385#post11267385 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Underwaterparadise

I would have to venture to say if there was indeed a true Orange or Blue that there would be frags for sale every where since they are a fast growing coral and would garner a lot of money for a frag!

Just my .02c

Well, I can guarantee you that true orange ones exist ;) Ive seen 3, owned one (however briefly). Blue ones Im a bit more skeptical of, but who knows.

Underwaterparadise

11/27/2007, 07:03 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11267488#post11267488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hormigaquatica
Well, I can guarantee you that true orange ones exist ;) Ive seen 3, owned one (however briefly). Blue ones Im a bit more skeptical of, but who knows.

And you know for a fact it wasn't dyed???

Hormigaquatica

11/27/2007, 07:15 PM

Yup, 100% positive none of them were dyed. Its only the tips that are orange- dye would affect the entire animal. It had the kind of "glow" that you only get from florescence proteins, not from dye.

Underwaterparadise

11/27/2007, 07:35 PM

Ok now orange tips and an entire orange coral are 2 different things. I have seen several with orange tips!

whosurcaddie

11/28/2007, 03:38 PM

Believe it or not liveaquaria had one in there divers den section once. I wanted to buy it so bad but my tank wasn't ready.

whosurcaddie

11/28/2007, 03:39 PM

they had a blue one

Mental1

11/29/2007, 10:08 AM

I don't really know what color you would call this but these pictures have not been touched up at all.

Here's my hammer under full lights:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/131354fullhammer.jpg

And now under actinics:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/131354actinichammer.jpg

Mental1

11/29/2007, 10:20 AM

Not sure why the pics aren't showing up -- just my computer? Will try again ..

Full lights:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/131354fullhammer.jpg

Actinics:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/131354actinichammer.jpg

Hope this works ...Sorry if it showed up last time and this is a repeat.

m2434

11/29/2007, 08:04 PM

Thanks Mental1 - cameras do pick up a lot of blue when the actinics are on. I would still call them green.

landragon

11/29/2007, 08:25 PM

I'm about to buy a peach/orange Australian wall hammer. It is under quite a bit of blue light but I have shone a flashlight on it (incandescent , quite yellow) and confirmed it is peach and orange. I'm interested to see what it looks like under the KZ coral lights and Fiji purples I will post pics but not for a few days.

Mental1

11/30/2007, 07:04 AM

So you are just looking for the color of the heads?

acrouse

12/02/2007, 06:09 PM

MarineGirl411-you would find the thread called"Black Hammer w/Blue Tips" interesting. Sorry I do not know how to copy the thread to my post , but its currently on page 1 of this forum and was posted 12/01/07. It puts the famous picture myth to rest. Goes to show how pictures can be altered.

enjoy jolene

coralite

12/03/2007, 09:07 AM

Any picture you see of a blue or blueish hammer coral is a case of the white balance being off when the picture was taken.

Justin74

12/03/2007, 08:31 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10379815#post10379815 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hormigaquatica
Check out page 457 in Sprung/Delbeek Reef Aquarium vol. 2. There is a photo pf a tank belonging to Ricardo Miozzo, in Brazil. That is the only photo of what appears to be a blue hammer that I have ever seen. (I love his whole tank, but that particular animal Really sticks out)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11292689#post11292689 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RicardoMiozzo
So, here I am.
The Euphyllia from that pic was bought measuring around 4 inches. Typical "half moon" skeleton form. Couldn't see the color at the moment, 'cuz I got it straight from the importer inside the transport bag.
It took three days to fully expand the polyps, that were a very light and faint grey. I thought it was discoloration due to stress and it would eventually dye.
In a month or so, the coral got a little bit more grey, but still very light, and stayed like that for the rest of the time I had it. In three years, it had 15 inches and kept the same colour.
The blue showed in the picture is due to two 140 watt VHO blue bulbs from URI I had in the tank.
The colors in that picture are not so photoshoped as it seems. It is available on the 6th book of Alf Nilsen and Svein Fössa (released only in Germany). The picture was taken with a large format ( 6 x 6 ) professional camera, and it was "worked" to be printed in Germany.
I have never seen a really blue Euphyllia in my whole life, and as an importer in the past, I can tell you I've seen thousands of them.

And my response to Marinegirl's question 'why do people sell them as such?', probably because color is a very subjective thing; especially on ebay! ;)

-Justin

superfirefly

12/03/2007, 09:17 PM

This was sold to me as a teal Frogspawn.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/superfirefly/DSCF1348.jpg

It is mostly pinkish blue with teal tips

coralite

12/03/2007, 09:19 PM

The damsel is blue.

Quatro

12/04/2007, 12:49 AM

flyyyguy

12/04/2007, 02:07 AM

i used to.....killed it this summer along with most everything else......

incidentally.......i picked this up a few years ago from one of the ten for $100 specials from seacrop

I regret that this pic was taken when I used 14k bulbs, but I assure you its really blue....and would look as such under the 10k xm's i use now

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/flyyyguy/hammer.jpg

MarineGirl411

12/04/2007, 01:20 PM

wow. Lets share some frags. =)

flyyyguy

12/04/2007, 01:42 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11312701#post11312701 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarineGirl411
wow. Lets share some frags. =)

id be glad to......but its nothing but a memory now

Rickyrooz1

12/05/2007, 08:28 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11164752#post11164752 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hormigaquatica
Yeah, I know, Im digging up and old thread ;)

After seeing the orange hammer sit at work for the last several months, I finally had to bite the bullet and get it. I just got it in the tank, so its not open much yet, and yes the halides are out for the night so this is just a T-5 actinic. Overall, I have to admit the photo pretty much sucks 100%, just use it to compare the color to the normal green frogspawns by it ;) But its still pretty freaking orange even with the halides one. Just crossing my fingers that it recovers from the move alright- it was not pleased about the trip home.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Aguabeast/General%20240%20pix/OrangeHammernFriends.jpg

Were you able to get a pic of the orange hammer with the halides on?