Vortech Controller is out.

[GSMguy]

http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=68_122_183&products_id=1840


http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1185310



what does everybody think?

i am ordering mine today :)


and we dont have to send our pumps to them they send the upgrade to us.

also as far as i can tell the single controller and the wireless controller are the same.

[King-Kong]

!!!!

/me runs around the room waving hands

[GSMguy]

kong i was thinking about you

glad you found my thread.

your going to have some real fun now.

where is jnarowe i figure he will be dancing the morning away as well.

[OliverM3]

Very cool just ordered mine.

Thanks

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

This is a good day :smokin:

[NewSchool04]

so can one wireless controller control two pumps?

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10557965#post10557965 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NewSchool04
so can one wireless controller control two pumps?

well no you need to upgrade all the pumps to the new drivers. one driver will be designated as the Master pump and the others will be slaves. slaves will be controlled by the master.

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

Ahhh...thnx for clearing that up for me.
so what is different about what is for sale on the first than what we can order now? Is it just that if you order a vortech from then on you can have the new driver from the start as opposed to the upgrade we current users will now do?

[GSMguy]

i dont know if the vortechs that are shippied from ecotech after the 1st of september will come with wireless stock.

[reefnut2790]

so the upgrade goes into the white box that currently has the dial for flow adjustment? doesnt sound like it has a lcd or anything for display. wonder how you know what setting your picking. will be ordering my upgrade as soon as funds allow =-)

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10558619#post10558619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefnut2790
so the upgrade goes into the white box that currently has the dial for flow adjustment? doesnt sound like it has a lcd or anything for display. wonder how you know what setting your picking. will be ordering my upgrade as soon as funds allow =-)

no you detach the cord from the white driver you have now then plug the cord in the new controller module/driver. so its simple and quick plus you dont have to send the pumps in as many thought in the past we might have to do.

[reefnut2790]

ok cool so it is a whole new replacement for the white box :) rockin!

[GSMguy]

bump

[jnarowe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10557842#post10557842 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
where is jnarowe i figure he will be dancing the morning away as well.

Nope, no dancing around. Just a quick call to work things out...Didn't find out until Marc posted in his thread. Now if I could just get those Eco-Tech guys to fasten a heat sink and adapter to my pumps that will accept CPU fans! :lol:

Seriously, I am working on a mod to keep mine cool. The fan has worked really well so hopefully other users will learn from that and gauge whether they need additional cooling.

[GSMguy]

and here it is, sort of
very nice sleek design
http://www.ecotechmarine.com/images/driver_render.jpg

[jnarowe]

The rendering makes it look like plastic doesn't it? And again it doesn't look like there's much in the way of information like speed, temp, cycle, etc.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10560594#post10560594 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Nope, no dancing around. Just a quick call to work things out...Didn't find out until Marc posted in his thread. Now if I could just get those Eco-Tech guys to fasten a heat sink and adapter to my pumps that will accept CPU fans! :lol:

Seriously, I am working on a mod to keep mine cool. The fan has worked really well so hopefully other users will learn from that and gauge whether they need additional cooling.

you know those liquid cooling heat sincs for CPUs? what about removing the rubber sticker on the back of the vortech and replacing it with a liquid cooling system.

or an icecap variable speed fan controlled by the driver based on heat...


Also since these things are wireless will i be able to hook up to the internet and check on my pumps? that would be cool all they need is a vortech thing that hooks to the wireless router in my apartment allready.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10560601#post10560601 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
The rendering makes it look like plastic doesn't it? And again it doesn't look like there's much in the way of information like speed, temp, cycle, etc.

see the clear stripe on it? That will have series of leds that will tell you what mode its in and they are providing a key to understand the led modes also the key is on the back of the driver.

this is much cheaper to design and build, also the plastic is bettter suited to the Marine enviroment. stainless is expensive. for 50 bucks we are getting the wireless controller not just the single controller as we all thought before plus we get to do it ourselves no sending in the pump.

also i hope this thread is the place to critique the controller with out turning it into a flame fest all thoughts are apreciated

[jnarowe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10560627#post10560627 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
you know those liquid cooling heat sincs for CPUs? what about removing the rubber sticker on the back of the vortech and replacing it with a liquid cooling system.

or an icecap variable speed fan controlled by the driver based on heat...


Also since these things are wireless will i be able to hook up to the internet and check on my pumps? that would be cool all they need is a vortech thing that hooks to the wireless router in my apartment allready.

all good points. I don't know anything about the liquid coolers. I figured even a variable speed fan mounted in a heat sink and attached to the motor would be good, but since I am one of, if not the only person with this issue, it doesn't pay for them to do the build out.

yeah, hooking into my wireless bridge with some software on my PC would be good, or even better would be a link to AquaNotes. :D

[GSMguy]

i need aquanotes written for Mac OSX i dont even have access to a pc. lol

[GSMguy]

Johnathan have you seen on melevs reef the pics of his acrylic computer fan housings? why not have something rigged up that would attach a fan to the outside of the tank and blow on the vortech? it would be nice and clean looking and could be held on with some suction cups.

[reef / aholic]

WHAT IS IT!!!

[jnarowe]

Yeah I have seen them...no way on the suction cups. don't allow them inside or outside my system for anything I have to rely on. The reason why I want the heat sink is to mate a fan right to the pump itself, and power it off the pump power supply if that will work.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10560889#post10560889 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RoBolton
WHAT IS IT!!!

what is what ?

[NewSchool04]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10560594#post10560594 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Nope, no dancing around. Just a quick call to work things out...Didn't find out until Marc posted in his thread. Now if I could just get those Eco-Tech guys to fasten a heat sink and adapter to my pumps that will accept CPU fans! :lol:

Seriously, I am working on a mod to keep mine cool. The fan has worked really well so hopefully other users will learn from that and gauge whether they need additional cooling.


Are you having heat issues with the VorTech?

[GSMguy]

newschool his tank room is like 84 degrees he is one of the only ones to have heat issues

[NewSchool04]

Thanks GSMguy.

Man, I can't get used to your new avatar!! Change it back!!!!

[GSMguy]

lol third person to say that
but ive gotten two good reviews and mine makes it 3 so it stays for now

[jnarowe]

I can't stand it myself.

My tank room varies between 70F and 84F and apparently the Vortech wasn't designed to operate under those conditions. As far as I know, I am the only one who has had heat problems.

[GSMguy]

well mine gets hot and never slows down i love it,cant wait for my controller.

who else ordered them?

[mrcrab]

Can't wait for mine either.

I wanna see if I can get a wave to break over 8' of tank! :D

[jnarowe]

you need more pumjps then Barry. :D

[GSMguy]

mcrab How many are you runing ? 4 i think?

jnarowe you need more as well you dont have 10 yet ;)

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10582371#post10582371 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
you need more pumjps then Barry. :D

No, we're talking controllers in this thread. Pay attention!

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10582409#post10582409 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
mcrab How many are you runing ? 4 i think?

jnarowe you need more as well you dont have 10 yet ;)


You think right and Jonathan does need at least 6 more pumps. :lol:

[jnarowe]

easy boys...I already have 5. :) Current plan is a re-aquascaping and lowering of the pumps below the sight line. With seven I would be pushing about 22000 gph plus 4K from the return.

and GSMguy, if you don't get rid of that avatar, I am going to have to block you! :lol:

[GSMguy]

jonathan i will do something about it, jeez


no love for ashy larry.

[King-Kong]

..had a hot hand at a dice game, though!

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10582490#post10582490 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
and GSMguy, if you don't get rid of that avatar, I am going to have to block you! :lol:

What's wrong with his avatar?

[GSMguy]

kong im about to go from ashy to classy. :)

[reef / aholic]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10563218#post10563218 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
lol third person to say that
but ive gotten two good reviews and mine makes it 3 so it stays for now

I'M RICH B*TCH @!#$%%^

[jshuste]

Put some lotion on man

[GSMguy]

marci projects son what


OK thats enough OT. gotta go play some dice make money for my next vortech

[N-A-S-O]

If you get rid of ashy larry, I'm taking it. Love that avatar

[Rouselb]

bump

[phishlet]

Bummer... I guess I missed the first order. I can't believe it. And I wanted one so bad....

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10589264#post10589264 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phishlet
Bummer... I guess I missed the first order. I can't believe it. And I wanted one so bad....



I will PM u when the next release happens sorry you missed out. dont worry i will let you know first when they do the next release :)

[jshuste]

So this wavemaker is just a chip?? Does this mean we have to buy another wavemaker to plug our vortechs into?? If i put one on a 90 do you think it will make a nice wave with just one vortech?

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10589981#post10589981 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jshuste
So this wavemaker is just a chip?? Does this mean we have to buy another wavemaker to plug our vortechs into?? If i put one on a 90 do you think it will make a nice wave with just one vortech?

ill let you know in about 14 days :)

its not just a chip it a new wireless driver with controller function each pump communicates Wirelessly via these drivers you just replace the stock drivers and instant upgrade. no need to remove the pumps from the tank and no need to send anything in exept the old driver that you dont need anymore.

[jshuste]

Maybe this is a dumb question but by driver do you mean the part on the outside of the glass connected to the speed control and power box?

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10590200#post10590200 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jshuste
Maybe this is a dumb question but by driver do you mean the part on the outside of the glass connected to the speed control and power box?

No, the actual white box itself is the driver.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10560593#post10560593 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
and here it is, sort of
very nice sleek design
http://www.ecotechmarine.com/images/driver_render.jpg


dis be da driver

[GSMguy]

speed control

The Speed control box is the driver.

[jshuste]

I just read that we are suposed to know what mode it is in and whether or not it is connected to other pumps by the leds on it, where are the leds anyway??

[GSMguy]

leds are in the clear stripe there will be a key to understand what they mean

[Rouselb]

so whats the deal for all of us that purchased the "old" standard driver?? Is there some reason to consider upgrading? what is the upgrade option??

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10596381#post10596381 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rouselb
so whats the deal for all of us that purchased the "old" standard driver?? Is there some reason to consider upgrading? what is the upgrade option??


you pay them 100 bucks they send you controller,

you send back your old standard driver and they give you 50 bucks back

[Andrew]

Sweet! I might have to buy and try out of these bad boys. :D The best thing is the flow rate has a huge span so they can be used in both nanos and huge reefs.

[SDguy]

So, now I have a quick question. A local reefer loaned me a vortech to see how I like it, and how it'll work in my system. Needless to say...LOVE IT! Anyway, are they going to sell the pump and controller together at some point, I assume? Should I just wait for that?

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10641848#post10641848 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
So, now I have a quick question. A local reefer loaned me a vortech to see how I like it, and how it'll work in my system. Needless to say...LOVE IT! Anyway, are they going to sell the pump and controller together at some point, I assume? Should I just wait for that?

dont wait the controller with pump will cost 450 and seperatly they will be 400 the rebate program is for pre order only

also aquarium specialty is offering free shipping on vortechs right now just select customer pickup when you check out

[Rouselb]

when is the next shipment?

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10662935#post10662935 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rouselb
when is the next shipment?

after the first shipment. i will update this thread when they are for sale again..


i cant wait for mine.

[Andrew]

Who runs their Vortech pump(s) on a nano tank? I'm throwing up the idea of selling my Tunze nano streams and buying one of these for my 37 gallon BB tank. I just like the idea of how I can increase/decrease the flow in case I change tanks in the future.

[SDguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10642709#post10642709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
dont wait the controller with pump will cost 450 and seperatly they will be 400 the rebate program is for pre order only

also aquarium specialty is offering free shipping on vortechs right now just select customer pickup when you check out

I read through all that mountain of, er, well, info, to be polite, in the vendor forum :)

Anywho, I didn't actually see it stated that the regular vortech sold with controller will be $450. Did I miss it?

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10663317#post10663317 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
I read through all that mountain of, er, well, info, to be polite, in the vendor forum :)

Anywho, I didn't actually see it stated that the regular vortech sold with controller will be $450. Did I miss it?

i read into what they were saying Tim mentioned the rebate price being 50dollars, and that after this initial upgrade process is over the price of controller would be 100per.

that coupled with the msrp of $345 =$445 i rounded up...

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10663314#post10663314 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Andrew
Who runs their Vortech pump(s) on a nano tank? I'm throwing up the idea of selling my Tunze nano streams and buying one of these for my 37 gallon BB tank. I just like the idea of how I can increase/decrease the flow in case I change tanks in the future.

tim at ecotech uses one on a 30g

kev aplsey has one on a nanocube


mine is on my 50g thats not quite a nano but close...

[Rouselb]

any news when the next shipment will be available??

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10833982#post10833982 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rouselb
any news when the next shipment will be available??

as soon as the first shipment is available im sure.

[Rouselb]

I thought they shipped at the beginning of this month???

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10834219#post10834219 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rouselb
I thought they shipped at the beginning of this month???
nope 24 days behind schedule as of today. but they will come out as soon as the FCC says its ok.

[petedoc]

I just recieved notification of shipment of my new pair controllers, should arrive this Friday. I will post pics of them in action!

[GSMguy]

mine will be here tomorrow.

[burton14e7]

I got a shipping tomorrow email at 1:30am...but the link in the email for order status takes me to a 404 page :( Oh well, it will be here soon :)

[GSMguy]

MrCrab your avatar is the best....

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10936716#post10936716 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
MrCrab your avatar is the best....

Not good enough this year unfortunately.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10939691#post10939691 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mrcrab
Not good enough this year unfortunately.


when your the Greatest of all time there is always next year.

:)

[GSMguy]

My controller is out for Delivery, should be here any minute
i will take some pics of the swap out and hope to have a nice wave kicking.

[OliverM3]

It's like Christmas! mine is out for delivery as well.
Can't wait to to walk in after work and see my son holding the new controller :)

[GSMguy]

I got mine and i also have a nice wave in my tank now

this thing rocks.

[jnarowe]

Pictures/movies PLEASE! :D

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10944170#post10944170 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Pictures/movies PLEASE! :D

Ditto!!! Let's see these bad boys in action!

[curthendrix]

Bumpo!! Come on guys lets see those vids. I'm ready to be jealous.

[GSMguy]

i will try and get a video up tonight

i did take some photos that show the change in water level at the top...i will upload tonight as well.

[OliverM3]

I love it.
Who would of though I would get a nice wave with only one vortech. This thing is awesome.
I'm running it in reef crest random mode full blast on my 76g
I'll try to find a place to put a video.

[GSMguy]

you should really bust out pulse mode oliver pulse mode is will really make the tank rock.

[mrcrab]

Anyone running a sandbed and what effect is the wave action having on it?

[jnarowe]

Come on Barry...a little sand won't hurt anything. And besides, it will help keep the glass clean! :lol:

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10945096#post10945096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mrcrab
Anyone running a sandbed and what effect is the wave action having on it?



i have way too much flow for sand

[OliverM3]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10945053#post10945053 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
you should really bust out pulse mode oliver pulse mode is will really make the tank rock.

Thanks GSM I'll have to check that out now.
I could only imagine this with 2 or more vortechs It has to be intense.

[OliverM3]

Very cool I do like the pulse mode.
I don't know which I like better though.
Because I like the long(couple seconds) calm period of 300gph.
I'll have to try each for a couple days and see if I notice any reaction.

[GSMguy]

my water is moving in unison like with a wave box but better

pulse mode is great when you only have one pump in a small tank :)

[OliverM3]

Here you go some rather large video's one reef crest mode and one pulse mode.

Pulse Mode (http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/Pulse.wmv)


Reef Crest Mode (http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/ReefCrest.wmv)

Don't mind the mess the Green goni is doing much better now that I'm not burning him under direct M/H
He took it really badly but he's coming back now in a more shady part of the tank.

Took long enough I had to rip them down because comcast only gives me 26 megs
Enjoy

[GSMguy]

great vids oliver you have to dial in the pulse to get it to rock the water back and fourth

in my tank there is giant surge/wave the water in the tank is literally moving back and fourth like the ocean its really amazing.

[OliverM3]

Thanks! I'm sure I'll be playing around for a while with all of the settings. I haven't even tried lagoon mode. I probably wont though because I would image it's weaker.

I can't wait to see if the random movement has any affect on the corals.

A friend of mine has 2 on his 210g I can't wait to see more then one vortech working in sync.

I'm actually surprised how easy it is to set. When I first saw pics of the controller and leds I thought it would be more complex to go through the different modes.

[GSMguy]

my friend ordered 4 for his 240g that should be fun

[OliverM3]

That's going to be insane 4 running together to create a nice random flow.
I may actually get a second one myself just to create an alternating flow.
It's funny the vortech isn't even noticeable in the videos.
It's mid way on the right of my tank.

[jnarowe]

VERY NICE VIDS. THANKS!

[GSMguy]

ok here is a pictoral representation of my surge/wave action this is a 2 inch change in water level in my tank from end to end
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q45/GSMguy/IMG_0354.jpg


http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q45/GSMguy/IMG_0346.jpg

[jnarowe]

wow. that is way cool.

[OliverM3]

Nice wave!

I wonder if the random pump movement will have any affect on the pumps life?

It seems to be a gentle enough transition so I guess only time will tell.

[summer6]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10946312#post10946312 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OliverM3
Here you go some rather large video's one reef crest mode and one pulse mode.

Pulse Mode (http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/Pulse.wmv)


Reef Crest Mode (http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/ReefCrest.wmv)

Don't mind the mess the Green goni is doing much better now that I'm not burning him under direct M/H
He took it really badly but he's coming back now in a more shady part of the tank.

Took long enough I had to rip them down because comcast only gives me 26 megs
Enjoy



Can someone help me out! My computer said "done" for the download but I can't see the vids.

BTW My WWD's came yesterday, but I'm missing the set and mode buttons on one of them....waiting for what to do next.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10948617#post10948617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OliverM3
Nice wave!

I wonder if the random pump movement will have any affect on the pumps life?

It seems to be a gentle enough transition so I guess only time will tell. \

its running way cooler on pulse than it did on 100% on all the time.

[OliverM3]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10948620#post10948620 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by summer6
Can someone help me out! My computer said "done" for the download but I can't see the vids.

BTW My WWD's came yesterday, but I'm missing the set and mode buttons on one of them....waiting for what to do next.


You should be able to select open or run.
They will play with windows media player or real player.

bummer about the set and mode buttons. I wonder how that was missed before shipping.

[GSMguy]

Summer if you have a Mac you need to download this flip 4 mac
http://www.flip4mac.com/download.htm

[burton14e7]

If I already have a tunze wavebox would the pulse setting be a proper match?

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10949062#post10949062 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by burton14e7
If I already have a tunze wavebox would the pulse setting be a proper match?

I dont know, if you allready have a Wave box and are getting a nice wave action, leave it and use the vortech on lagoon or reef crest for supplimental flow.

as per using both the wavebox and the vortech, I imagine it could cause problems the vortechs wave action is actually not a simple on off. the pulses are controlled by some kind of algorithm that builds the wave then lowers it a small amount. I think to avoid the wave gettting too large or crashing on itself and killing the wave. if you were to pair it with the wavebox you would probobly end up with both waves working against eachother.

do you understand that im sorry i just cant seem to explain it better.

[burton14e7]

No that makes perfect sense. I didn't understand that pulse mode was for creating a wave but I was just readin the eco tech forum and realized this. I think reef crest for supplimental is what I'll be using. Or maybe I'll tinker around with random. My vortech is showing up tomorrow but my 120 isn't even filled yet. I just moved to Texas from Cali and all my corals are sitting in a rubbermaid with a tunze 6025 until my tank stand is built.

[OliverM3]

I'll have to work on the pulse mode again tonight.
It may be difficult to get the wave going with the vortech on the back of a 1/2 circle.

[GSMguy]

might take longer to tune in and might not be super effective on a tank that size you might need two of them to get a wave

[cartman5579]

Just to chime in.....

I just put ONE pump in my 60 cube about 3/4 of the way up the side with a 5 inch sand bed and i can run this thing at any mode, and any speed pulse and i do not have an issue with ANY sand moving. Even the undertow isn't picking up sand.

THIS THING IS AWESOME!!!!

I don't know if i like Reef Crest Mode, or Pulse better though. Even on Reef Crest Mode, i get some random waves, and i still get a more consistent high flow throughout the tank. On Pulse, i get killer wave action, but the flow is very in consistent. Both are great i'm sure, but the choice is killing me.

Bottom line is, ... REPLACE ALL PUMPS AND POWERHEADS WITH VORTECH's!!!

Matthew

[summer6]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10948898#post10948898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OliverM3
You should be able to select open or run.
They will play with windows media player or real player.

bummer about the set and mode buttons. I wonder how that was missed before shipping.

Thanks. Got my son to save/run the vids. It looks great.
Hope to get mine up and running soon. Tim (ecotech) is sending me the two missing buttons for the WWD - he thought he might have missed one - I was the lucky one.lol.

[EcoTech Marine]

summer6-

The envelope should arrive tomorrow or Saturday, but in the mean time there's no fear in using it without the buttons. They'll just snap in place once you receive them

-Tim

[opiumpipez]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10951968#post10951968 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
summer6-

The envelope should arrive tomorrow or Saturday, but in the mean time there's no fear in using it without the buttons. They'll just snap in place once you receive them

-Tim

Tim

can you tell me if ecotech has sent pumps to aquacave yet?

[OliverM3]

To many choices now :) I can't decide between pulse, reef crest.

I think with my setup reef crest may be the best since the flow gets strong enough to make it to the other side of the tank.
where the pulse doesn't quite make it.
And pulse doesn't have enough to make a decent wave with my setup.

No worries I see aquarium specialty has the Vortech MP40w
as a complete pump coming soon.
I may just have to get a second one :D

[summer6]

This may sound silly, since I've never had a wavebox in my 200 (7') but what kind of issues are there with this 2" water level differential? Is water going to slop up and over the sides? Does the wave mode change the flow rate going into the overflows?
Thanks.

[summer6]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10951968#post10951968 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
summer6-

The envelope should arrive tomorrow or Saturday, but in the mean time there's no fear in using it without the buttons. They'll just snap in place once you receive them

-Tim

Thanks for the heads up.:)

[cartman5579]

i'm wondering, is a actual WAVE more effective, or the same as the water moving back and forth on the surface? Maybe this is a wave, i'm not sure what to consider it. What i mean is with Reef Crest i get varied flow, and with pulse i can see my anemone actually shifting from side to side, but at a fairly fast rate. I like the look of the pulse in the water, but what is more effective as far as what the livestock would prefer. Are the pulses going to effect them in a negative way seeing as though i have to have mine set fairly fast?

[TracyZeuner]

I am really interested in these pumps, but would I need to get 2 of the pumps for a 180. It looks awesome but that is a lot of money. Right now I use 4 Koralias(2 #4's and 2" #2) and run them on a Seio controller. Its good but I still have a few dead spots.

[OliverM3]

Yeah I would think you would need two.
You could always add them one at a time and keep using some of your Koralias.

[GSMguy]

here are some pf the flow patterns for lagoon and reef crest.
http://www.ecotechmarine.com/images/mp40wrme.jpg

[AquariumSpecialty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10952260#post10952260 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OliverM3
To many choices now :) I can't decide between pulse, reef crest.

I think with my setup reef crest may be the best since the flow gets strong enough to make it to the other side of the tank.
where the pulse doesn't quite make it.
And pulse doesn't have enough to make a decent wave with my setup.

No worries I see aquarium specialty has the Vortech MP40w
as a complete pump coming soon.
I may just have to get a second one :D

Actually we have had these in stock since Tuesday of this week:) and we still have a lot in stock.

[burton14e7]

I almost asked what you used to parse out that data then saw the properties on the jpeg :)

[OliverM3]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10954134#post10954134 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AquariumSpecialty
Actually we have had these in stock since Tuesday of this week:) and we still have a lot in stock.

Nice!
Could be a little while till I can pick one up.
Just had to put a new rim on the M. I don't know which hobby is more expensive fish or cars :eek1:

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10956213#post10956213 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OliverM3
Nice!
Could be a little while till I can pick one up.
Just had to put a new rim on the M. I don't know which hobby is more expensive fish or cars :eek1: The answer is both...

I NEED another Vortech I also NEED stuff for the car and neither will help me make more money... :lol:

[jnarowe]

but you can rationalize that the pump will provide needed flow to help your corals grow, and one day you can harvest frags and make some money. With the car, well, I guess you could register for Pinks. :D

[OliverM3]

I agree it's not an option of "if" it's more of a "when"
I do need both :)
But I want to get the car off of the jack stand for this weekend.
The fish will need to suffer for a week or two :D

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10957871#post10957871 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
but you can rationalize that the pump will provide needed flow to help your corals grow, and one day you can harvest frags and make some money. With the car, well, I guess you could register for Pinks. :D

well i definetly think the wave action will give me better growth the corals and tank look good after two days with the wave

before i had soo much flow but it was just not as good plus im saving electricity with two less pumps in the tank and much better oxygen

[benjabba]

Can you guys help make me a little smarter? Since you are using the Vortech Controller for the PH's how does this effect the way you use your other controllers?

Thanks,

Ben

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10958005#post10958005 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by benjabba
Can you guys help make me a little smarter? Since you are using the Vortech Controller for the PH's how does this effect the way you use your other controllers?

Thanks,

Ben

yea i used to run all my pumps at 100% now i have my tunze controller set to pulse the 6055 30%-100%, and i took out another tunze because the wave is so intense

[petedoc]

Any suggestions on where to place a pair of these, with controllers on a six foot long 270gal tank? I have had them at opposite ends of the tank for the last several months, but now that my controllers have arrived there may be more optimal positions. Anyone have any experience with placement thus far?

[jnarowe]

I would love to see some tank config drawings start to pop up with how people are placing their Vortechs and what the resulting wave action is. Can somone start a thread dedicated to placement and configuration?

[EcoTech Marine]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10982247#post10982247 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
I would love to see some tank config drawings start to pop up with how people are placing their Vortechs and what the resulting wave action is. Can somone start a thread dedicated to placement and configuration?

If you guys start documenting this, we will post the configurations on our webpage and maybe include a link to the videos to show the many different ways of running the pump. I think this would help everyone.

-Tim

[summer6]

I would like to help out with tank configurations/video of my wwd's in action. I need some tutorials on "how to" get this on a post.
If anyone has a link to help with this I'd appreciate it.

In the meantime. The 2 vortechs are placed opposite each other 5", 6" inches below surface, about 20% beyond midpoint on the glass.

Have tested the constant speed, lagoon random (anti-synch), reef crest random (anti-synch) and pulse (anti-synch). With the pulse there's a wave that can be seen below the surface, with no visible wave at the surface level. That's ok because I don't have the extra room for a 1"+ wave.

This will only benefit my tank, and I'm moving out of softies, to mainly lps, and perhaps sps which would really love the extra options the wwd gives.

I like the idea of being able to switch from one mode to another in the course of 24hrs, but wish this could be programmed in the driver. Maybe ecotech will incorporate that down the road.

[GSMguy]

summer6 email me or Tim with the video and i will get it up here for you or im Sure Tim could handle it as well. or you could just load it to photobucket.com. or youtube.

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10982199#post10982199 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by petedoc
Any suggestions on where to place a pair of these, with controllers on a six foot long 270gal tank? I have had them at opposite ends of the tank for the last several months, but now that my controllers have arrived there may be more optimal positions. Anyone have any experience with placement thus far?

for a wave opposite ends in anti synch mode 100%power and a long pulse not sure how long though

[summer6]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10983378#post10983378 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
summer6 email me or Tim with the video and i will get it up here for you or im Sure Tim could handle it as well. or you could just load it to photobucket.com. or youtube.

Thanks for offering. I still have to take a video, and hope to get it together soon enough.

[benjabba]

Do you guys think 1 of these bad boys with the controller would do the trick in a 5' tank? They already is quite a bit of flow from my return pump.

Thanks,

Ben

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10984886#post10984886 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by benjabba
Do you guys think 1 of these bad boys with the controller would do the trick in a 5' tank? They already is quite a bit of flow from my return pump.

Thanks,

Ben

sure will