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Maxi
09/03/2007, 08:48 PM
I'm starting my 26g bowfront soon, as some of you know.
I got told to get the 24" aquatinics fixture, but I don't know which one I got told to get, there is around 3 that are 24" and are aquatinics.
I'm getting a RBTA and I saw this light
The aquatinic 24" tx5 series
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28_111_112&products_id=1605
And then I saw the MH/T5 24" combo fixture but I don't like it because its going to cost me 500$... and I don't want to spend that on a light.
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28_111_113&products_id=587
but I also like the ones drsfoster&smith have.. much cheaper :)
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12772&N=2004+113175

Or whatever else you guys can reccomend that doesn't pass the 300$ mark.. much better..

Thank you for your help.
-Maxi

jc9394
09/04/2007, 12:12 PM
Tek Light?

http://www.reefgeek.com/lighting/T5_Fluorescent/Sunlight_Supply/Tek_Light_Fixtures/24_inch__Tek_Light:_4-24W_T5_High-Output_Fixture_with_Bulbs_by_Sunlight_Supply

Maxi
09/04/2007, 02:55 PM
The tek light doesn't have actinic lights in it, so it won't be good for a reef?
I called drs foster and smith and they told me this would be a good one.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12109&Ntt=coralife%20lunar%20aqualight&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=2004&Nty=1

But then I thought about it, and I figured since this was my last tank for a long time.. why not get this one?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12113&Ntt=coralife%20auqualight%20pro&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=2004&Nty=1

If you can reccomend one, much cheaper, I would appreciate it.
Thank you
-Maxi

littleshark
09/04/2007, 03:08 PM
light fixture
http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=337
all kinds of light
http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=9
I love this site. they give good items and theyre cheap. its just that sometimes they run out of items.

Maxi
09/04/2007, 03:41 PM
Wow! Thank you little shark! With that price, I'm defenetley getting the 380 watt one! twice as cheap than on drs.f&s.

phender
09/04/2007, 03:53 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10700271#post10700271 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maxi
The tek light doesn't have actinic lights in it, so it won't be good for a reef?
..............If you can reccomend one, much cheaper, I would appreciate it.
Thank you
-Maxi

The Tek lights are pretty much the state of the art T5 reef fixture. The Reefgeek deal is about the best around. They charge everyone else's "sale" price for the fixture and then give you any bulbs you want for free. (That is about $100 value)
Normally Tek light and Aquatinic fixtures are sold without bulbs. You choose the type of bulbs you want, including actinic.

littleshark
09/04/2007, 03:58 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10700608#post10700608 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maxi
Wow! Thank you little shark! With that price, I'm defenetley getting the 380 watt one! twice as cheap than on drs.f&s.
yup no problem. I buy most of my marine items there since they're cheap. you even get free bulbs :) The only thing i dont like is that theyre not gurantee.. I got my PC fixture and it worked great. :)

Maxi
09/04/2007, 04:24 PM
Just wondering, won't that fry the tank? :s
I won't be needing a chiller, right? My house is at 74-75 deg farenheit ALWAYS.

littleshark
09/04/2007, 04:57 PM
It should be about good. Try using fans to blow the top of ur water if the waters getting hot..

Maxi
09/04/2007, 07:23 PM
The light has fans by looking at the picture. :D 2 of them.
I will try to order it as soon as possible.. really cheap for a good light like that one.

jc9394
09/04/2007, 07:29 PM
Becareful with Odyssea (aquatrader) fixture, you get what you pay. There is a hugh tread at RC here about them Stay away anything with CF, they are not as efficient as T5.

Check out Outer Orbit, they are really good for the money.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=15486&N=2004+113352

jc9394
09/04/2007, 07:34 PM
Here is the link to Odyssea fixture.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1109530&perpage=25&pagenumber=35

Maxi
09/04/2007, 08:58 PM
Oh I see, so the CF is not a good thing.

That kind of made my face from finding such a cheap price " :) " go to " :( "

I do like the orbit one though, but its really gnna make me get on a bad mood lol. Do I get the 246watt one or the 364watt?

Maxi
09/04/2007, 09:03 PM
Or do i get this one?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=12113&N=2004+113030

couple more watts than the cheaper orbit light.

jc9394
09/05/2007, 06:57 AM
150 watt of HQI is plenty for 26gal. IMO, I rather get a HQI with T5 instead of CF.

Some T5 last 2 years while CF only last around 8-10 months.

I will recommend to get a T5 fixture instead if HQI unless you want the shimmer effect of HQI. T5 runs about 5-10 degrees cooler than HQI.

jc9394
09/05/2007, 06:58 AM
Some of Coralife/Aqualight share the same hardware as Odyssea.

Maxi
09/06/2007, 12:46 PM
Thanks for the replies. Before I make my purchase, does this one have a chance?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+12772&pcatid=12772
If it doesn't, I guess I'm going to end up with this one..the 246watt one
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+15486&pcatid=15486

Thank you
-Maxi

Maxi
09/06/2007, 07:30 PM
Before I do buy it.. its 400 dollars you know.. isn't that... too much for a 24" fixture?

Maxi
09/06/2007, 09:34 PM
Sorry for asking all these questions over and over again.. Just want to spend my money the right way.

I found this one... but its not t5
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+15690&pcatid=15690
Also found this one
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+13637&pcatid=13637
Also found this one.....
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+13733&pcatid=13733
Can someone please tell me if this one is useful? Drsfoster and smith told me I would need at least 120 watts of light..
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+12772&pcatid=12772

jc9394
09/07/2007, 06:43 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10712261#post10712261 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maxi
Before I do buy it.. its 400 dollars you know.. isn't that... too much for a 24" fixture?

I probably spent close to 600 for my 24" Maristar fixture and very happy with it.

jc9394
09/07/2007, 06:51 AM
I would go with T5 fixture as they are more intense and the bulb last twice as long as CF.

The "Nova Extreme T-5 Fixtures w/Lunar Lights" you list will be fine on your tank if you only intend to keep bta and softies. I will not put a clam under it.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produ...72&pcatid=12772

While both Tek and Aquactinics cost more than Nova Extreme, but you can keep anything under them
http://www.reefgeek.com/lighting/T5_Fluorescent/Sunlight_Supply/Tek_Light_Fixtures/24_inch__Tek_Light:_4-24W_T5_High-Output_Fixture_with_Bulbs_by_Sunlight_Supply
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AT-TX52400&Category_Code=Aquactinics

One thing I suggest is get the best light you can afford to avoid upgrade down the road.

Maxi
09/07/2007, 01:27 PM
Guess you are right. To avoid buying any new fixtures in the future, I guess I'll get the outer orbit pro series.
I'll try this weekend.. will have to argue a lot to spend my money on this..

onecrzyboi4u
09/07/2007, 02:16 PM
jc9394- i have that same light fixture. the nova extreme. got the clam when it was small. it's trippled in size since i have gotten it. i have hard and soft corals and there all growing with no issues.

snulma1
09/07/2007, 03:35 PM
Hey Maxi,

Don't shy away from the odyssea fixture! I have the 24" fixture and I love it! The only down side is I had to swap out the PC bulbs for better ones (20 dollars for 2 from helolights) and then swap out the stock MH ballast for one that was more effecient (which I had laying around, but others did for around 100 dollars). And after all that it was still cheaper then most of the other fixtures on the market!

Also read that thread about the fixture, alot of people had modded theirs to take VHO bulbs and T5's. But you are only using those for supplementation anyway!

Maxi
09/07/2007, 05:13 PM
Yippee! Another argument in my head :D

The nova extreme, odyssea, or the orbit!
:D

Maxi
09/07/2007, 06:06 PM
Nova is out of my head. Not enough wattage a gallon. Only 4 watts a gallon. Or am I wrong? I think its a little amount because my 3g has 6 watts per gallon..

Maxi
09/08/2007, 09:49 AM
I decided to go argue at home today, so.. which will be best for a long lasting, efficient, won't make me go " :( " after a year of use, and will last more than 10 years.

Odyssea/orbit

GSMguy
09/08/2007, 11:32 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10718959#post10718959 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maxi
Yippee! Another argument in my head :D

The nova extreme, odyssea, or the orbit!
:D

aquatinics t5 is far and above the better option, if your looking for quality.

Maxi
09/08/2007, 08:50 PM
Ok, but does it come with the bulbs? The website doesn't say it does, is there one that does come with the bulbs?

Maxi
09/08/2007, 10:40 PM
Ok, decided on the aquatinics tx5, because of quality.

What bulbs do I get for it? I never ordered a light from them-- so I don't know what to tell them. So I pretty much don't know what to do except do the checking out for this. Don't know what bulbs :D

What are riser brackets? Will I need them for my new fixture?

Do I order the bulbs from drsf&s, or from the same website?

Thank you for all the help...!
-Maxi

jc9394
09/10/2007, 07:18 AM
Front to back

Blue Plus
Actinic
GE 6500K
Aquablue
Blue Plus

GSMguy
09/10/2007, 07:42 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10734127#post10734127 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jc9394
Front to back

Blue Plus
Actinic
GE 6500K
Aquablue
Blue Plus

there are millions of bulb combos

check out scottslights.com he will hoook you up.

Maxi
09/10/2007, 12:36 PM
Just wondering about another thing, I keep wondering about this every time I think of bulbs. Do reefs need more actinic, or do they have to be even with flourescent, ect.
I called scotslights, but they aren't available right now, it says 8am-5pm but they aren't picking up?? Goes straight to the voice mail.

jc9394
09/10/2007, 12:56 PM
Try Greg from reefgeek.com

GSMguy
09/10/2007, 01:08 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10736119#post10736119 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maxi
Just wondering about another thing, I keep wondering about this every time I think of bulbs. Do reefs need more actinic, or do they have to be even with flourescent, ect.
I called scotslights, but they aren't available right now, it says 8am-5pm but they aren't picking up?? Goes straight to the voice mail.

you leave a message scott calls back, he is a one man band.

Maxi
09/10/2007, 07:08 PM
Ok thanks. I'll leave scott a message tomorrow.

Maxi
09/11/2007, 04:07 PM
Ok I talked with Scott today.
He told me to get...

UVL actinic white
Two aqua V's ocean pro
1UVL super actinic
Aqua V blue pro

Sounds good?

I'm going to order the bulbs from him when I buy the fixture.

Maxi
09/12/2007, 11:55 AM
Is his combination a good one?

Maxi
09/13/2007, 08:02 PM
Is anyone out there? :D hehe....

Is his combination a good one?

Maxi
09/14/2007, 01:13 PM
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