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11/07/2007, 08:27 PM
Well, I figured its time to start a log of my trials and tribulations in this wonderful hobby. I want to start documenting somewhere it might benefit others and keep a running record of my "program" as well.

I want to try by start to post some pics; something that never came easy to me. So here is a pic of my big toadstool:


If this works, there will be more to follow.:eek2:

11/07/2007, 09:57 PM
is this what you wanted to post?


nice, i have one didnt know the name but its smaller than yours :D

11/08/2007, 12:11 AM
YEAH MAN!!! WOW!!! How you do dat?

11/08/2007, 12:56 AM
give me your emaill address, i'll send you a tutorial on how to post pics.. i tryed to post it here but its a bit larger then the allowable limit. but remember you have to get the pic location and enter it in between the [ img ] and [ /img ] hit the preview button and see if it works..

looks like:

but no spaces, all one line. i had to add them because it was thinking it was an actual image and trying to post it.

11/08/2007, 03:38 AM
[email protected]

I have some time eiother tomm after work or Sat, so let me know when you'd like to go to the arcylic store

11/08/2007, 03:51 AM
you have mail.. i'll be one for a bit more doing some homework if you have any questions about it..

11/08/2007, 04:17 AM
you good partner, get that homework done. talk to you later

11/08/2007, 05:22 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11140346#post11140346 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sango-chu
you good partner, get that homework done. talk to you later

oh its not really homework, I was reading on how to take better pics.. I have this camera that i dont know how to use. so i went to melesreef.com and started reading..

11/08/2007, 10:24 AM
make a photobucket account.. after you upload the picks to photobucket, look for the "IMG Code" below the pic.. click "[IMG]http://img.photo" it will automaticly copy the link to the pic. Right click and paste the link into the text box on here and boom.. you have your pic linked.

should look something like this..

[ IMG ]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/FDokinawa/VansmomCustom.jpg[ /IMG ]

11/08/2007, 06:44 PM
So, what did I do wrong above that just the link shows instead of the actual picture?

11/08/2007, 07:32 PM
you used the address from webbrowser on top. you are supposed to right click on the pic you want to show, hit properties, highlight location address, right click on the highlight, hit copy. then hit the IMG box on the post you want the pic to show. erase the http on there because the pic address already has that . paste the pic address and hit ok.. did you get the word doc i sent you showing you how to do it set by step? this is from imagestation to reefcentral.

11/08/2007, 08:36 PM
you can alos just put "" at the front and "" at the back. without the quotes..

11/08/2007, 11:08 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11145484#post11145484 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AlexnLinda
you used the address from webbrowser on top. you are supposed to right click on the pic you want to show, hit properties, highlight location address, right click on the highlight, hit copy. then hit the IMG box on the post you want the pic to show. erase the http on there because the pic address already has that . paste the pic address and hit ok.. did you get the word doc i sent you showing you how to do it set by step? this is from imagestation to reefcentral.

Nope, not yet. I just tried to call your cell# ****9633373 but got some msg, do you still want to meet to go to that arcylic place?

11/08/2007, 11:42 PM
no worries right now.. another time.. i just wanted to know where it was at just to check them out. see there prices.

11/17/2007, 04:59 AM
Ok,o here it goes again:

11/17/2007, 05:03 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11200420#post11200420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sango-chu
Ok,o here it goes again:

trying it from the quote box with the smilies choosing location:eek:


11/17/2007, 05:04 AM
GREAY GUYS thanks - it worked in both environments.

11/24/2007, 07:43 AM
Had to switch over to shutterfly; imagestation is shutting their services down.

02/05/2008, 08:14 PM
Well, it has been a long time since I updated this thread. I had alot going on: New issues at work, moved from one place to another then another, ordered tons of stuff and took forever to come in, etc... BUT!!! I am finally coming back on line. Just got back from Emergency Leave and had ordered a ton of stuff. Reef Exotics' box just arrived at home (wife called to let me know) and now I am excited about moving my 130 gal AGA from up north down south again. I will be trying to be PICK INTENSTIVE so please bear with me on this.
GUYS...I am planning on making a wall in my new rented place...the owner said I could as long as it was all repaired upon departure...SOOOOOO if any of you are handy with assisting my making a wall to frame my 130 gal AGA...drop me a line!!!

02/07/2008, 01:53 AM
Building a wall is pretty straight forward. I take it you will sheet rock it? If so, it's not hard. Don't know if they have the water resistant sheet rock here as most construction contractors use regular and ends up tiling it. I could help build it but I have a tendancy to make things kinda permanant so we will have to design it so it can be removed and the area repaired after.

02/07/2008, 04:50 PM
Yes, I thought of that. But I got lucky last night. Spoke to the cplumber who is currently working on the water lines. He said he'd plumb the tank all the way to the garage underground with insulated pvc!!!! All I will have to do is make 4 holes in the concrete walls; two from the tank location and two in the garage's side wall. One is there already so the job is almost done. I just need to check if my baracuda pump and/will push 5x's the volume of my 130 an hour as a return from the sump/fuge located about 50 feet away. I am hoping that gravitiy will make the water go from the tank to the sump as it will be higher thatn the sump/fuge at the destination. I am going with Sidewinder770's design when he did hs 375 gal (and then eventally sold). I will call you at kunch time once I get a break.

02/10/2008, 03:02 AM
After talking with you about you build, I am excited!!!! Can wait to get in deep with pipe and start this system up right!

02/10/2008, 05:03 PM
Sure MAN!!! Can't wait either. I just started the temp stand yesterday. Bolted it intot the cinder block wall in the garage usinbg 2x4s and then supporting the bottom with two 4x4 with a metal based anchored into the ground. I will take pics tonight and post them ASAP. I will also dig up that oterh unit and get it ready for ya!!!

02/10/2008, 06:33 PM
Mike, "The tank is 96 x 30 x 30, black back, with 2 corner overflows. It looks a bit like swiss cheese at this point because of the 18 holes we had drilled for various closed loops and sump return." Here is a pic of it. http://www.systemsu.com/reeftank/empty%20tank1.jpg

02/11/2008, 01:29 PM
fixed it, very nice tank..


02/11/2008, 04:05 PM
OK. what did I do wrong? I thoguth the "..."

02/11/2008, 04:06 PM
damn, hit the submit button too soon. Please let me know what I did wrong...I really gotta figure this out; thought I already had...sigh..
Thansk Alex...see ya soon!

02/11/2008, 10:16 PM
there was a space after [img] has to be all together. no spaces

02/12/2008, 12:27 AM
sigh, thanks.

02/12/2008, 04:06 AM
I got a few ideas for your set up. We need to get together sometime soon to discuss. I also want ot take a look at where it will be placed so I can start figuring out the best way to build the wall.

02/12/2008, 05:48 AM
Jeff sure enough. Will call you. Here are a couple of pics of the stand that I just finished in the garage as the temp site we spoke of.
Here is is from the beginning:http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc33b3127cceb559e5970d6e00000026101AZOGjZw1csX

Here is another one with the bolts thru the wood and into the cinder block wall of the garage http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc33b3127cceb559e5ab0d5200000026101AZOGjZw1csX

here is the side portion of it http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc33b3127cceb559e5ab0d5200000026101AZOGjZw1csX

here is the support in the corner using a 2x4

here is the center and the corner supports using 4x4's

More to follow...

02/12/2008, 06:07 AM
Sorry double the long shot uo top. Here is the shot of the side wall braced with the cinderblock bolts

Here is another shot of the thing long ways today. I finished the stand and then put the Okinawan waterproof yellow board on the top.
that's a 2x6 front board connected to the 2x4 in order to provide additonal support. I don't need anything falling apart.

Here is the long shot with the rungs running across it.

Here is a bottom shot of the above rungs

Here is a close up of the 4x4 brace anchored into the saolid concrete fall.

Here it is with the yellow board cut and screwed in place. Yes, I used screws of the entire thing.

Here is another shot. Sorry for the blurring shots. Was in a hurry to post these and am kinda tired. I work on this 2 hours atta time after work. sigh

here is another shot of the board. I left a gap along the back in order to make plumbing the temp tanks easier.

Here it is again with a 90cm tank sitting on top. I stood on it and it didn't even budge.

...and now the goodies from reef exotics...

02/12/2008, 06:25 AM
Jut got kicked out because of too many images ...sigh...will post the reef exotics pic tomorrow...sorry..:eek:

02/12/2008, 05:29 PM
Where did you get that tank? acrilic?

02/13/2008, 12:30 AM
Nope, its glass. Got it from a 2d hand shop or maybe a fish store in Yoshihara.

02/13/2008, 04:12 AM
lucky focker! lol

02/13/2008, 04:44 PM
No prob...If I come across deal like this again, I'll make sure to post it here right away. I just don't want to end up with 30 tanks in the house...wife said 15 is the limit :)

02/14/2008, 02:17 AM
how many gallon is it?? I really dont want to go to much over 100gallon. I dont have concret flooring..

02/15/2008, 12:12 AM
This one holds about 55-60ish...I will give you the actual once I get home.

02/16/2008, 08:07 AM
Here are some of the pics I tried to post before on the Reef exotc order...

Here are the Luminarc reflectors

and another...

02/16/2008, 08:16 AM
O.K. O.K. so I got lucky again. About 3 months ago I went to the PetBox in Naha to try and pick up some styrofoam shipping containers for Taira-san at ACO from the dump at PetBox. Yup, they just throw them away. WEEELLLLL..:rolleyes: While I was garbage picking I moved some of the boxes out of the way and guess what I ended up putting in my van????:confused:

YEAH!!!! A 120 cm all glass tank!!!:rollface: It was thrown away because someone had cracked the bottom. I just took it yesterday to the glass man by Futenma (Jaymil too) and I picked it up today - good as new...7000 yen.

I will take some pics tomorrow of it on the stand. Today I jut worked in shelves in the garage and a bench

I had to use rope to hold it up...it's a ***** working alone - my back's killin' me!...sigh

02/16/2008, 11:51 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11852822#post11852822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sango-chu
This one holds about 55-60ish...I will give you the actual once I get home.

Dude.. that tank is at least 100+ gallons.. mine is a 200Liter(55gal) and its about half that size.

02/18/2008, 03:43 PM
The dimensions are 38x17.5x17.5=11637.5/231=50.37878...gals. Its short but I like it because it's wide.
I will have to sell the all glass tank though. I put water in it yesterday up until the edge of the lower glass and it buckled; the glass bowed some distance. I then realized it was made for a terrarium, not an aquarium. Might ask PetBox to see...or if anyone is interested drop me a PM.

02/18/2008, 05:56 PM
man... that thing looks way bigger then 50gal!!

02/19/2008, 04:23 AM
FD, I think you are referring to the "big" tank. the big one is a 130. Luis is referring to the terrarium tank he just picked up.

I foresee a planted terrarium with guppies in the future....

02/20/2008, 04:36 AM
im talking about this one...


02/20/2008, 09:19 PM
then you are RIGHT!!! That one in the pic belongs to sidewinder770 and reefmaiden - they were the TOTM in Jun/JUL 07 (?) and I have been following their li9nk ever since. But they got married and moved to Texas and sold the tank andd everything else with it. I went to Sangio Friday and found out how much it would cost to get the tank cut here. I will let you guys in on the price if/when it's finalized.
THAT BABY HOLDS 375 GALLONS MAN!!!! (I am getting a gumby when I think about it)...That's why I haven't call ya Jeff, sorry. Not sure if the wall project will be for the 130 gal or the 375 gal!!!
But I still got your box....will check in soon...

02/22/2008, 04:49 AM
If you are doing a 200+ gl tank them it better be made out of acrylic otherwise you will need a beer party to lift it.

02/23/2008, 02:46 PM
When I get that bad boy I may just have a party anyway! :)

02/23/2008, 05:02 PM
Sounds like a plan!!!!

03/29/2008, 01:38 PM
:eek1: Well, I'm back. It's ben a while and a lot has happened. So let me start with this!!!!
Picasa to modify pics ~ Shutterfly to post them!!! it's the easiest thing I have done since joining up...


03/29/2008, 01:51 PM

I want to sleep :sleep: on an asking price of on my 130 gal rig.

The stand cost 200 bucks alone at the PX (cause of the size) and its an AGA 120 inch tank...sweet...narrow, so it fits great up against any reasonable wall. I will throw in a super glass sump/fuge box of your choice ( I currently have two of them) Chaeto, and will definitely help with what I can...I am all about promoting the hobby (obsession actually).

I can tell you (you all) this: It will NOT be $1500. :eek2:

(but his DOES come with a custom stand for a custom tank and holds 20 gals more than my 130...):bigeyes:

I'm tinking $750ish....BUT I need some sleep :sleep:


...and another pic if I may...

I was going to set up my 130 in the new place we are renting out. Plan on staying here for about 2 to 3 years to get alittle more studying done so I just decided to do it. However, I came across a deal of a life time and jumped on it like a grenade. Yes, yes, I am building up the suspense until I get a chance to take some pics (with my new camera) of the project. Oh yeah: PROJECT!!!!:eek2: :eek:

Let me put it this way: The wife has given up on trying to alk some sanity into me/us ~ Me and myself and I = not stable baby!!!:wildone:


03/29/2008, 01:57 PM
Few more pics before I hit the rack and pass out!!!




03/29/2008, 01:59 PM
...sigh, sorry for the duoble poets fish shot; wanted to post a full tank shor of my temp 55 gal.

Will do later...

03/29/2008, 08:16 PM
Slept on the tank price. No way will I charge $750 for the set. I can start talking at about $500. :eek2:

04/08/2008, 04:20 PM
O.K. it's been a while since my last update, but like in my last one; I got a new camera and have been busy. Here are some pics of the beast that I just landed on.:twitch:

It's a 118 inches long by 22 by 24. :bounce1:

Not too tall and it calculated at a little under 275 gals but its a step in my progress to a bigger tank. Some day - a 375~500. NOT ANY TIME SOON THOUGH :eek2:

As you can see, the stand needs some major work removing the rust portions. The price include the tank, stand, and the sump. (pics to follow).


04/08/2008, 04:24 PM
Here is Kinjo-sama helping me remove some plumbing from around it in order to get good measurements and get ready to move the stand out for repairs. :dance:


Here is a close-up of the stand and the amount of work that it will need. I already contact the guys at Typhoon motors up at Courtney (they have a weld shop) and they are ready for me to show up with the stand in order to cut off some of it. It is currently 122 inches long and my space for it is exactly 118 inches wide. Hum. They will not let me bust any rust up in there because that is a "body and fender" task and they do that up at Hansen; I ain't goin' to Hansen with this beast in my van...I want it back right away!




04/08/2008, 04:27 PM
Here's a pic of the sump in the PPM storage shack

Here's a long shot of the setup

04/08/2008, 04:56 PM
O.K. Here is the tank in the shop at Courtney. They knocked it out in about 1 day. I also had them weld on 2x2 cm holed squares on the inside so that I can brace paneling to it in the future.

and a few more


04/08/2008, 04:57 PM
Here it is finished and ready to get home and started on part II


04/08/2008, 04:58 PM
I got it back it the van and took it home to start busting rust. Using a circular sander with disks and wire brush attachments, I got it down to this.

04/08/2008, 05:11 PM
I then went to Marunaka's and got some zinc primer for marine use ~no not U.S. Marine ~ ocean marine ;)

Primed all the sections that were initially worthy of a coat and will be flipping it over to do the other side once this dries and behaves :dance:

04/08/2008, 05:12 PM
Here's a pic of the sump outside my hooch and a DYI calcium reactor I made a year ago...works great though a little bulky but hey...

04/08/2008, 05:13 PM
I also got in the mail my oceans motions 4 way unit and am waiting on the delivery of the Reeflo Orca 250!!!!! :dance:

Oh MY GOD!!!! I hope the wife doesn't go get the mail before I DO!!! :eek1:
Well, that's it for now but will keep them coming as I keep going!!!


04/10/2008, 04:48 AM
Well, just got my heavy damage removal kit in and will be asking the james in the Acrylic Man's forum for some pointers before I begin. Will be picking up the tank tomorrow and setting it in a good location in order to start working it.

04/10/2008, 06:51 PM
I like the new setup in work! Cant wait to see it complete. Let me know when you are ready to stock it, I can help with that. If you need any other help le me know, I would be happy to.

04/11/2008, 12:06 PM
Thanks Magrath will do! I worked hard this evening and started out with the 2400 grit micro-mesh then went onto the 3600 micro. Hit it with the Tuf-buff pad then went at it again with the sponge pad. Took about 3 hours cause all I did was the the two sides and the front panel both inside and outside. Just did a major cleaning of the back and scraped the drired coraline of that and the bottom. Plumbed it back up and sealed the drain and filled it with water tonight. The tank's outside in the yard and by the time I was done it was too dark to take any quality pics. Will take some in the morning whist the sun's arisin'. Want to run another coat of enamel primer on the stand and then get some regular enamel paint and run a couple of coats on the stand as well. I might start pulling back the run this week and checking the floor's levelness. hope I don't have to do too much work to the foundation for that...sigh...

04/16/2008, 08:32 AM
Way to go on the new tank, Sango!
$500 sounds like a deal on the tank you're getting rid of. I know that comes with stand and sump, but would I get lights, skimmer, plumbing, etc, too?

04/16/2008, 08:23 PM
Not really, but I have a TON of that stuff laying around. Sorry guys, I really don't want to sound like "i got it like that" but the fact is that when it comes to fish tank/aquarium parts ~ Imma a hoarder...sigh....but my wife loves me anyways...I'm a lucky guy. I literally have to JUMP across KaKa in my garage just to look in boxes I have forgotten what they contain...If you guys are laughing right now, then you're in the right place; for you've been there ~ done that...sigh.

I can provided some extra stuff to get you up and running. I got the canopy that Jason made of it but it doesn't match the pre-made stand and I will remove the 250 MH ballast on it for my new setup. It has two 175MH rigs on it and I can discuss a modest cost for that as well. I also have an EVC 180 modified to hold a beckett venturi unit and worked well before and that I was going to use as a back up if/when I need to do maintenance in the reeflo 250 of maybe cure some live rock in the future.

I spoke with Taira-san at ACO and we will be wokring on the landscape rockwork in the near future. Still not sure what I want though. Since I don't plan on staying in this house for more that 3~4 years, I want something that will come apart reasonably easy in the future.

04/17/2008, 09:10 AM
I'm like that with car parts.. lol

04/18/2008, 09:16 PM
Well, its been a week again. Really didn't get much done after that night of polishing but I did add another coat of black enamel paint to the stand. It should be ready to go. I am tired of painting and waiting for it to cure.

Here is the before and after set of pics of the tank:

Before polishing:





And a few of it after: (yes, its filled with water for a quick crud test)


I didn't put to much focus on the back panel because it will be covered with a thin sheet of black plastic to allow me to take peeks in on the back from time to time and it will be welcomed to start on coraline ASAP...more to grab onto I figure...


This is looking thru it full of water from front to back; yes that's a sched 50 pvc pipe that was plumbed to go to the sump. I will be plugging that up and running either dual 2" internals or 2 over the back 1200's flowboxes with a secondary closed loop to boot.


Same shot without a flash:


05/05/2008, 03:58 AM
Wow, That is sweet! Man it's been a while since I have been on here. Too much work and no time to play. Gl;ad to see everything coming together. Let me know when you are ready to work that chiller! I have some sources for the compressor.

05/05/2008, 03:27 PM
Thanks Jeff. Been looking forward to getting together! But like you, busy as a one-armed-paper-hanger!...sigh. I have been hard at work at nights and have take some pics. Need to upload them into shutterfly then start qriting my log again. The dust has settled, just a little, so I might be able to post some more updates soon.

05/06/2008, 04:33 AM
Check your PMs I need a little help with around 60 gallons of water for my new office tank. I remember saying you have a large container for mass water hauling.

05/06/2008, 06:35 PM
Checked them, sorry misunderstood. Yup, the 130 liter containers are at your dispose...Let me know whne you want to make the run.

05/06/2008, 09:52 PM
Hey guys, thought I'd drop this thought for now: I decided to go with this overflow system:
http://www.reeflogix.com/images/overflow/front-wide.jpg from a thread I saw on silent operator.

I have already drilled the tank to hold four of these bad boys thry the back. Of course, I have it plumbed with Okinawa available pvc and valves but it should work the same. When I get a chance, I will upgrade it to look like this, but for now, it will be plimbed with Okinawan (Marunaka) plumbing

05/07/2008, 01:58 AM
If you are going with this style, what size pipe will you use? It is an interesting concept that should work well. Only thing that I wonder about is how large will the spill tray be? The one thing that I question is with your lights, it might add a shaded section in the tank.

If you are free this Sat to make a water run with me, let me know. I am dying to get my office project up and running and I know the folks there are too!

05/07/2008, 05:50 PM
Sure, lets make it happen. Please let me know what your plan of attack is so that I can consider taking my rugrat with us...if you dangerous/hard, I'll leave him at home. Just let me know...

05/07/2008, 05:58 PM
Good point on the shade; neer thought about it. I might just be able to position low light species in that area...I like this idea because it is completely silent, something that is a MUST where the tank will be located. I just found out yesterday too that premium aquatics made a mistake and they never shipped my items out!!! I was furious...but got over it quick. I sent them a payment for expeditious shipping and I hope to get the skimmer her in time for set it all up at one time. I hae a natilus 380 (/) runnning now rated for 300 gals so I can use that in the interim.

05/08/2008, 02:07 AM
Kids will be fine with us. We can back the car right up to the door and there is some nice chairs for the kids to sit right across from the tank. the kids will be in full sight at all times so won't be a porblem at all. The only other place I need to stop besides the water place is to pick up a bag or two of sand. I figure we can dump the sand, fill the tank and next week I can fire everything up and fill it with LR. I will fire a couple pumps just to circulate the water so it won't become stagnet but want to be there when I test all the plumbing for the first time. I prefer to be there and check it out every hour just in case of leaks. Give me a call when you read this. I tried calling you but no answer.

One idea for your tray is to use clear for the bottom part of the tray and black for the up right part to hide the pipes but still allow the light to penetrate and eliminate the shaded area. Just a thought. We can talk about it more this weekend.

05/08/2008, 05:13 PM
That sound like a great idea. I will bring my son and the containers. Let me know by today if you want to use the Kent Marine Salt or if you'd like to just get it all from ACO. I will take my van and my containers, and of course, my son. Need to start him early :)

05/11/2008, 01:26 AM
Thanks for all the help yesterday with hauling the water and helping with the fill. I figured it was a nice day today so I pulled the rock from my 55 and went to stocking the office tank with it. I also went ahead and fired up all the pumps and skimmer. No leaks so that makes me happy. The water is still a little cloudy but that is to be expected since I stirred up the sand more when I put in the rock. I even found a few rics on rock I put in. Hope they don't decide to like the tank and take over in the future. I also broke down the RO I got from you to strip the metal plate since it had a lot of rust on it. I finished the last coat of new white paint this morning and it's now back together. One thing that confused me on it is that is was plumbed for the water to go through the carbon block, then the 5 micron next the RO membrane and last the 1 micron. It should have gone through all stages and the final product out the RO membrane so I re plumbed it to do that. Also, what color is the waste hose on that? The red or the blue?

05/11/2008, 05:17 AM
Sigh, with you telling me that you might as well pick a color...LOL!

Your guess will be BETTER than mine right now with all the outstanding work you've done on it. ALso, its good that we didn't bringanymore water; never calculated the displaced water the rocks would be shifting...your sump should be right on time now huh?

05/11/2008, 05:42 AM
Wow, it has been a month that I post anything other than words.

:bounce3:Well, here's an update of what's been happing. Haven't been posting too many pics but definitely been busy.
First, I brought the prepped the floor and then measured out the tile pieces. Then I brought the stand in to MAKE SURE that it was going to fit and that the tiles would fall into place as expected.



05/11/2008, 05:46 AM
This is what it looked like in the finished corner

But I had a part that was not leveled so I tried several options. Finally got on that worked. This took about a week and a half with work and all. :sad:


05/11/2008, 05:47 AM
O.K.so what's THIS!


Its Okinawa weld-on 4. Its what I've been using in the patches for the big tank and the sump...
Ah, did I say sump...???


Just put the baffles in. It will be looking like TRegs sump pictured here. Thanks TReg for the use of your picture and sump idea.


Here's the return side (on its side of course) setting after applying the Oki-Weld.

Here it is weighted down


Here's a look at the incoming side...all the water will be coming in here...

05/11/2008, 05:49 AM
Here is the tank on its head. I turned the tank over and drilled the four holes in the bottom for the one-inch bulkheads and then the holes in the back for two 2-inch bulkheads for the closed looped.



Here's one of the 2-inchers drilled thru already

Here's the second hole started and drilled thru yet


Here's me completing the cut thru the acrylic for the second hole

Here it is cut all the way thru.


...And the last one for today being the two cut pieces for the 2-inch bulkheads in the foreground of all the tools resting on the tank stand top...

Sigh, I really hope it doesn't take me another month to post pics again. I will try to be better at taking and posting more pics.

05/12/2008, 02:06 AM
Looking great though! This is gonna be one bad tank!

I suppose with the RO I have to make an educated guess since I don't havea TDS meter yet. Need to buy one real soon I suppose. The easiest way I guess is to turn it on and fill 2 containers of equal size. The one with the least amount of water should be the good water as a normal RO unitcan waste up to 3 gallons out of every 4 made.

05/12/2008, 04:05 AM
I got a TDS hand held meter...you can borrow it when ready to do a test.

06/02/2008, 03:41 PM
Just sneaking in to make a quick entry. Here is the shot of the overflows from the outisde of the tank.

06/02/2008, 03:51 PM
Here's a shot of the corner bulkheads for the OM 4 way.


06/02/2008, 03:53 PM
here's the best I could do at the moment when trying to get things done and then remember that you are updating a log as well. I get so involved in the project that I remember to take the pics AFTER I am done with that portion. Getting better though.


06/02/2008, 07:56 PM
That's a very impressive setup you're working on. That sump looks great!

06/03/2008, 04:17 PM
Thanks Lionel. I had to put the sump on hold...because I was trying to work around the plenium-hold that was originally bonded into it, I ran into more trouble than its worth. I seriously thought about going to the Acrylic Man and having him make me one but then I remembered the prices...sigh. Some patience and REST has let me think through it though and I will get back to work on it.

Just a heads up casue I don't want to write about it before I post the pics for it, bnut the main reason was that I had recurring leaks in the tank ~ nothing major but I ant NO leaks ion the darn thing. I might even replace the bulkheads to the hevy duty schedule 80 of might glue the current ones in place. Which will be a bear to remove in the future. BUT better safe than sorry :)

Finally got it all leak-less about 3 days ago and it has been going a water-leak test since then...all is good so far. But when I drain it...I will probably glue the bulkheads in with the pvc glue. Not sure yet because I would have to glue the side that has the gasket on it. I think that gasket is needed for bumps and knocks lst the whole thing gets bumped and then shatters...OH MY GOD!!! EEK:

06/03/2008, 04:46 PM
if you already posted this i missed it, but where did you get that sump? was it built locally? I'm stuck between buying a glass tank and adding baffles, or if I can get one cheap enough, buying the acrylic or having one made out of acrylic. I built a small tank, about 8-10 gallons, out of some acrylic I got at makeman, just to practice. wasnt as hard as I thought, but I didnt have to cut any of the acrylic, I just scored it along the edge and snapped it in half for the sides.

06/03/2008, 06:29 PM
I got the sump as part of the package deal when I got the stand and the tank together. I have also used the thin walled acrylic pieces from makeman and the like but I just used it for the overflow box portion inside the tank, realizing that it wasn't going to be under alot of pressure.

Sump however, are a different story. You're gonna need it to be pretty thick, 5~10 mm thick. I know of a store were you can get acrylic but its expensive. If you have a glass tank then you can add baffles to it. That cost me about $15 bucks.

Alex is selling his sump and if you need a larger one, you can take mine for a steal...I was using it on my 130 gallon AGA. It needs some work but it is already plumbed for a double return from the tank into it; one to the sump and one to the fuge portion of the 55 gal sump.

If you decide to go acrylic, I cut mine at the hobby shop at Courtney and I think Alex had made mention that the Acrylic Man et him use his shop to cut the pieces. He then took them home and bonded them together.

I have a glass syringe and some bonding stuff. I got a tube of silicone from the Shima Glassman off of hwy 58 that fits the chaulking guns which makes easy work of a lot of siliconing. I used another tube from Marunaka's before but haven't gotten one of theose in a while.

Let me know if I can help.

06/03/2008, 10:24 PM
Can you email me a couple pics of the sump you are selling? Also the dimensions of the sump would be great.
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06/03/2008, 11:45 PM
Sure, I'll get on it tonight...can't access shutterfly from this location.

08/19/2008, 02:00 AM
WOW !!!! June 4th was my last post...sigh....well OK gents...I moved from out in town back on base; had to teach sumer school, get my family boat fixed; finish advance open water certification and sign up for a masters program. JUST got done putting the closed loop together so I will be posting pics soon.

10/14/2008, 01:07 AM
OK OK OK...sigh....been working really hard on this thing whenever I get a chance. Had to send in my Barracuda reeflo because it started screeching in the middle of the night 3 weeks ago and scraed us to death. Was still under warranty so Chris asked to ship it back. had to move the Orca 250 to the side of the tank bacause I just couldn't get around the tank to work in the back of the tank. Also, just got done completing the overflow portion of the sump. I had forgotten to plumb it during the last water check and water got all over the place. Thank God the floor is concrete. Pics will follow soon...

10/19/2008, 06:53 AM
Well, just got done running test and was pleased. But first SOME PICS!
Here is what the tank curretnly looks like in our place on base. It takes up the whole wall.

Here is the Skimmer, FINALLY out of the storage and ready to get assembled

10/19/2008, 07:07 AM
Here is the Skimmer, FINALLY out of the storage and ready to get assembled

Here are a few more of the skimmer pics.

10/19/2008, 07:09 AM
My boy measuring up to the task...Yes, I am sure you got a little helper too!

10/19/2008, 07:10 AM
Setting up the pump. I originally had it all in the back of the tank but since moved it to the side.

Close up of the skimmer flywheel impeller housing.

10/19/2008, 07:24 AM
Here is a recent shot (today) with the rig on the side of the setup.

10/19/2008, 07:26 AM
Sorry, forgot the closing slash...
Here is a recent shot (today) with the rig on the side of the setup.

10/19/2008, 07:27 AM
I replaced the ball valve I had here with a gate valve in order to fine-tune the water leaving the overflow n top. It was just TOO picky with the ball valve and didn't let me tweak it just right. This gate valve did the trick today

Here is a best try to get a full-length shot of the underside.


10/19/2008, 07:28 AM
Here is a shot of the return side of the sump

Here is a shot of the intended fuge section of the sump. The drop down bar has fine holes in to circulate the water around the compartment before going back to the tank. Hopefully it will be full of PODS!!!

10/19/2008, 07:29 AM
I had originally done the back of the tank with 4 overflow exits just in case I ever needed to add another one in the future; well that future came about right quick. I read that one of the problems with the Orca 250 being fed with a pump was that if the power went out, once it came back on it would take a while to charge up again, and kicking in, creating a flooding situation. Also read that if it was gravity fed, that the problem would be solved because it would charge up the same way/time the internal overflow would allowing for the margin of timing to catch up...

Here is the drain pipe for the return pump to the tank.

10/19/2008, 07:42 AM
Nother shot of return pipe

Pipe in place in the return portion of the sump
Return pump going up to the Oceans Motions...its tee off as well to feed the fuge drop pipe.
That Tee started to leak this afternoon under the pressure; must have been a bad batch...I replaced it right away.

10/19/2008, 07:44 AM
Back shot of plumbing to the Orca 250 gravity feed.

A shot of the Oceans Motions plumbed sideways to facilitate me securing it the frame when all is said and done.

10/19/2008, 07:47 AM
Pictured next to the COKE ZEROr for size comparison!!! These are like the TIM ALLEN of eductors!!!! http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8ce38b3127ccec532d7a9ddd100000040O01AZOGjZw1csQe3nwo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

10/19/2008, 11:57 PM
Looking great! I need to hire you to redo my tank plumbing. Can't wait to see it setup. Let me know if you want to make a stocking trip when it gets established as I am finally back in town for a while.

10/20/2008, 07:01 AM
Magrath, you got a bet on that. I just got certified for advance open water, Nitrox, boat, deep, and working on night. Looking to get certified by late next year as a dive instructor...so I need the dives as well. Snorkeling will be fine too!

Debating right now about the sand to put in. Jeff used pre-washed sand when we did his set up and down at Torii because it was rinsed out with fresh water, killing everything nasty...I can just seed it with someone's estab tank and wala! I'm thinking about making water for the first batch as well, though Deep ocean water thru a micro filter will work as well. Thats alot of water though and wil need some help getting herre. But that's in the future for right now..Still doing leak tests, etc....

10/20/2008, 07:02 AM
Hey Lionel.....You made mention that you can get a pretty good deal on bulk salt mix...how good a deal for about 400 gallons...?

10/20/2008, 05:59 PM

much better than the deal i have locally. $45+ about $10 for shipping for a 5 gallon bucket of salt, which is good for about 200 gallons of water. I use the red sea coral pro salt, it's got extra calcium and such in it for use with ro/di water.

locally, it's going to cost you $100 for the same bucket.

10/20/2008, 06:12 PM
I use local sea water taken about a mile off shore and have had no problems. I have nine five galleon containers that I can fill for you if you need some seawater just let me know, I would be happy to help. If you would like to give me some containers to fill I can do that as well.

Lionel if you want to go out to collect sometime let me know or if there are some specific softies or SPS's you want let me know I am in the water fairly often and can get and hold them for you.

10/27/2008, 12:00 AM
how are you getting out there? 1 mile out that is?

10/27/2008, 01:55 AM
I run amphibious raid courses and have boats at my disposable. I sometimes have to buy it from the fish lady but I normally gather it myself.

11/04/2008, 08:24 PM
damn, never thought my tank would go special ops capable...cool

11/04/2008, 09:28 PM

11/30/2008, 12:41 AM
First of all I want toi thank Lionel for coming tho the rescue even though I gae him a false alarm in needing water...SORRY MAN!!!! Turned out that the lady/shoppe that I have been buying water for the house for years gave me a deal I couldn't pass up. I spent $97 bucks in filling my tank with 300 gals plus...Then same night I called...Again Sorry for making you rush.

2nd thanks goes out to JEFF DA MAN!!! Hey guys, the BIG GUY is ALWAYS WORKING. I called Jeff to see if he had any live rock alying around, like most of us reefers do, and he gave me my Christmas present early! He stated that his current passion; the set up tank at work has him full dedicated and that it was time for him to break down his house rig. Said since I called, it must have been something kicking him in the butt to get it done...SOOO

I went over, helped take out the rocks, drained his tank, and went home and placed them in mine right away...

JEFF...LIONEL Thank you both very much.

OK OK OK...pics you say????

Here's one form the get go
first, the freshwater leak test was officially over... started to drain the beast. please not the shadetree carpenter work on the wall frame


and another

and another

11/30/2008, 01:27 AM
second, I had to move the Orca 250 closer and to the side of the tank so the drain would fall directly into the return area of the sump

you can notice the skimmer return gray elbow turned down barely coming from the right side

here's the sand filling started...used Jeff's technique and glad I did; justed seeded it with my sand from the old fuge

and another

While that was happening, I started to work on the Reeflux 250MH 12k's on the ice cap e-ballasts; I had two of them and needed two more...more more on this later...anyways, thought I'd show how I did it because the trick was to get the opening nipple in my 250's SE facing up, or as close to 9-3 o'clock as possible.

here are the LA3 reflectors ~ 4 of them... this is what is should look like once I finish. This is why I decided to do this...not as easy as you'd think...this nipple thingy that is.

First, the reflectors

make sure you remove the protetive plastic coating

The socket came with the reflector

11/30/2008, 04:11 AM
Here are the lights I'll be using.


With the lamp out of the box, I can show the nipple. I HAVE TO DO THIS MAN!!! When I first heard of this I said to myself
*someone must be using kalk illegally or something* but here it is..the lamp's nipple...little pointy thingy on the top of the inner bulb. This inner bulb is considered the same as a DE with the glass outter shell of the SE as the protective UV lens required of DE usage...This is why we UV protective cover no need...:strooper:


Here's another shot of the nipple...


and another, but you get the idea...


get the screws out of the box, temporarily set the socket in place and then screw a bulb in...DO NOT AFIX INTO REFLECTOR YET!!!!

Why not afix it yet...because if you have to remove the ceramic glass socket in order to rotate the internal housing to have the nipple orientate to the top, it is much easier this way...

...because I found out the hard way...had to take it apart to do it...sigh...


Here is what it should look like..sorry for the lousy pic but camera had a hard time focusing amongst all the reflective surface.

11/30/2008, 04:23 AM
Sorry bad pic post..little tired

With the lamp out of the box, I can show the nipple. I HAVE TO DO THIS MAN!!! When I first heard of this I said to myself
*someone must be using kalk illegally or something* but here it is..the lamp's nipple...little pointy thingy on the top of the inner bulb. This inner bulb is considered the same as a DE with the glass outter shell of the SE as the protective UV lens required of DE usage...This is why we UV protective cover no need...


11/30/2008, 04:30 AM
Here's the lamp socket mounted...

Here it is with the nipple facing up, or as close to up as I could get it... I will recommend to the company that they design an adjustable socket in order to facilitate this endeavor...

another thing worth mention: When you rotate the sockets make sure that the wiring remains in place because as you can notice, the black wire must sit in the groove in the ceramic galss or else the socket it be tightened down in a canted position and will not center in the reflector...yes, I learned this the hard ways too..


11/30/2008, 04:33 AM
Here's a better pic of what I mentioned above...note that the hole on the left of the pic has a groove toward the back of it and the right one does not...BE AWARE OF THIS....please.


11/30/2008, 04:40 AM
ok...on to the frame. Got some angled aluminum from Marunaka and rivieted it together to make a form fitting frame that supported the 4 LA3 reflectors

bought frame iron racks and mounted them to the to the interior wood frame with brackets made for them...

I can rest the ballasts and all wiring on these

11/30/2008, 04:44 AM
here is the first light test run with the miurking sandy water tank running thru.

02/04/2009, 05:06 AM
Well, here are some sneak peeks at my tank. I told Tylersdad that I'd post a few. Have been trying to work with the manual adjustments of my camera. If we wait for that, sneak peeks may never come.

Here's one with the light cover open. I went with 2t2crash to the kadena woodshop and found some red oak panels. I may do the whole cover over...it is currently falling off.

02/04/2009, 05:07 AM
Here is the left corner as you are standing in front of the tank.

The tomatos are gone since the pic was tank. They were just trashing the tank and being food hogs. Sashimi baby!

02/04/2009, 05:08 AM
Here is one of a small rock work piece I did. Thank God for acrylic tanks cause this baby is just propped up there

02/04/2009, 05:47 AM
Here's a full tank shot as you walk in the front door

Here on the pics were tank Jan 30 2009 and on...not may but good enough to post.

Here is one of a piece of mine...sorry for the lighting ~ working on the operator malfunction situation


Current pic of the center taken from the left side of the tank

02/04/2009, 05:49 AM
Close-up of one of my babies

Full tank shot from the left side of thank...and don't laugh at my ghetto door holder...it's working overtime right now!

02/04/2009, 05:50 AM
And here are quik-pics of some of the pieces:










02/04/2009, 05:53 AM
Here my clams are infested with aiptasia but I have a secret weapon on order to combat these worthy adversaries!!! STAY TUNED!!!

This one here is the size of a small soccer ball.

My soccer ball again with my camera hungry yellow tangs coming to papa for some grub!

02/04/2009, 05:55 AM
Sorry getting ahead of myself adn the comments: The soccer ball is the green on with the tangs in front...The other piece, now that's a different story...

02/04/2009, 05:56 AM
Some more tank pics ~ and yes, that's an American size couch in front of part of it

With the flash on:
Right corner shot

Front close-up ~ no flash, well, as close as I could get to take the pic

Moved back a little bit



Hope you enjoyed!!! More soon! I hope

02/04/2009, 06:11 AM
Oh, I also went to ACO Monday and bought 10 turbo cone snails and 20 sand sifting snails, and a sea hare but my anemone tried to eat it and killed the darn thing. It was on temp loan from ACO adn I was suppose to return it once I was done with it but I had to go there to apologize and we actually laughed about it ~ just a little...

02/04/2009, 06:37 AM
Sango-chu Good looking tank! I like the open space, lots of room for those tangs!

02/05/2009, 12:13 AM
Thanks James, but in reality, the 120 gal tank I had before would be holding this amount of rock just fine, but when I put it in this one...it all disappeared. I took Jeremy's advice and headed out to the Kinser flats last week and filled up a USMC dufflebag full of HUGE pieces of rock, yup, 3 pieces which nearly broke my back cause I took too long picking them out and the tide came in on my...literally. The bag got scuddled with water and it becaame waterlogged so, needless to say, I got work out that day. I am curing ir right now as we speak. Hopefully the pieces will fit in nicely allowing for more live rock and the height needed to place my SPS's high yet allow for the room around for the tangs and dwarf angels to munch on the algae on the rocks...

02/06/2009, 08:27 AM
So you did finally get out to get some rock! Thats awesome! i was just out last weekend scurrying around trying to find snails. I didn't get much coral because I of course had some a bunch a run ins with a bunch of sea snakes. They weren't too happy with me, one chased me off from their mating rituals.

02/08/2009, 04:16 AM
Yup, funny u should mention that...yesterdayt morning one came at me like it owned me...sigh...did the snaggelpuss and exited stage left...left right outta there!

02/08/2009, 04:45 AM
Well, although I did like all the open swimming room, show us some pics of the new "scape". I like the leather, has it always been that dark? I have one that is pretty near white, I don't think its always been that way.

02/08/2009, 04:51 AM
where are you guys fishing for your rock? I rechon I'll go out and snorkel at the Junkyard, seeing as my gear is still at the marina getting it's annual..

tank looks great Louis! the Chaeto clump is doing great in my sump too, thanks a ton!

02/08/2009, 06:21 AM
I got all of my rock out off Kinser. You can walk out when it is low tide to get some good size pieces. All you need is something to carry it in. I did it on my own so I used my issued back pack and did a couple trips. I would suggest cooking your rocks!