Atb Normal test pictures

[victor90]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5277.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5285.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5291.jpg

[victor90]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5280.jpg

[victor90]

These are pictures of the ATB normal skimmer US version being tested in Austria. They should be here at the beginning of Dec
Thanks
Victor Nguyen
ATB USA

[Fishbulb2]

Hey Victor,
What is the diameter of the neck on the nano cone skimmer? Also, what is the recommended minimum tank size for that skimmer? I'm looking for something for my 40 gallon reef and think this would just be way too much. You guys need to make a pico skimmer!

[victor90]

Hi Fishbulb2
Tha diameter of the nano neck is 4 inches

[Fishbulb2]

Yeah, probably a bit too large for my small tank. Still, a fantastic looking skimmer.

[victor90]

Picture of Normal Cone skimmer US version
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/atbDSCN5306.jpg

[rishma]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/atbDSCN5306.jpg


beautiful looking skimmer.

Any plans to make a cone skimmer with pump mounted recirc?

[Jim_S]

The last time I spoke with Victor, he explained that after they can finish up with the pumps they're going to use, and get them imported, that ATB will be working on some external models to test.

I hope they do so :D

Victor, is that pump in the picture above the final US version ATB will be putting out?

Cheers and welcome aboard!!!!

Jim

[victor90]

Yes that pump is the final model. What do you guys think? The externals will be developed after we finish the internals.
Thanks Victor

[victor90]

Fishbulb2
Sorry I made a mistake the new nano neck is 101mm which is almost 3 inches

[rishma]

Victor - your conversion was correct the first time. The neck is 4 inches

25.4 mm - 1 inch

101mm = 3.976366 inches

[rishma]

Victor - the new pumps are going to be awesome and I think everyone knows it (yes, everyone...). I cannot wait to see it in action. I may just have to get a bigger tank so I can use one.

36 watts, what is the pump pulling, 1300 LPH???

[sjm817]

What is the method of outflow backpressure adjustment? The outflow in that pic looks low. Can it be changed to be higher?

[victor90]

Normal specs 6" neck, 13.8" bottom, 25.6 inch tall
Footprint 13.8x19.68
1500L/hr of air
The outflow height can not be changed
The waterflow can be adjusted by twisting the standpipe if you look the two dots on support arm and the pipe. This will tell you have much you have it opened or closed.

[Jim_S]

Looks really nice Victor! Those pumps look mean :D

Can't wait to see one in person!!

[sjm817]

The wedgepipe outflow is a good design. Whats with this new trend of low, under water outflows? I prefer the normal method of an outflow that is higher and can be directed where you want it. Not criticizing, but giving feedback on a new product.

[victor90]

sjm817
I said the same thing as you when I first saw it but for quietness its a really good design. Theres no need to have the outlet so high up

[rishma]

plus, the water level runs very low in these skimmers so you probably cannot have a traditional standpipe up to the neck like on the standard cylinder skimmer.

[sjm817]

The quietness of an underwater outflow is good, but again, I like to choose where the outflow goes. Sometimes you want the outflow to go to a different chamber or area of the sump. You cant do that with with this design. If the outflow was higher, the skimmer would flood?

[hahnmeister]

rishma is correct. The waterline on these skimmers isnt much above where the outlet is right now.

[Jim_S]

sjm,

I think because of the cone-shaped body, there is less pressure pushing water out from inside the body. This means that the output must be lower than a traditional cylinder-bodied skimmer, or it will overflow.

Just my "theory" :D

Jim

[hahnmeister]

You are correct. The volumetric midpoint of a cone is at 1/3 the height, and the midpoint of a cylinder is 1/2 the height. Now, I know these arent complete cones (they have their tips cut off for the neck), and that the waterline isnt at the volumetric midpoint, but between the shape providing minimal resistance to foam rising (there really is something to this as the lph of air per square inch of neck area is much lower than normal... so bubble efficiency is better), and lowering the general midpoint... these skimmers have a very low waterline.

Its hard to show... you would need to replace your standpipe with a clear acrylic one to tell where the waterline is... but just looking at it still shows this.

[dphins]

If the water line is so low on the cone shaped skimmer, would the dwell time be lower? Less water=Less dwell time? Or is it, More air bubbles=More dwell time?

[hahnmeister]

I think these skimmers work on a different principle than most needlewheels. The dwell time isnt in the path from the bubble plate to the head, but in the head itself. Thats just my observation.

[Rwinfrey]

are these pumps going to be available seperate

[victor90]

Yes
They will be but the pricing has not been determined
Thanks

[hiepatitis]

Victor,

I thought the Small Cone was using an Eheim 1260?

[victor90]

Nano cone eheim 1250
small cone eheim 1260
normal air star 1500
super size air star 2250

[Rwinfrey]

any ball park # on the air star

[victor90]

As soon as the pricing is determined I will post it on atbskimmers.com
Thank you

[gcarroll]

hey victor!

Did something change since our last conversation? I was hoping for the DC pumps on the normal and super size. Is this no longer going to happen?

[victor90]

Hi Greg
We are still looking at that option as a upgrade.
The DC pumps will not be available until end of Dec or early Jan

[gcarroll]

Thanks for the quick response!

[boris MAC]

Hi,
this beaty will repalce older skimer in a tank we build in the apartment of our custmer in Macedonia :). We also have instaled Small size, D150, all perform excelent. We try to put some fotos from skimers and Ca reactors i action.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/ajaks_31/P1020077.jpg

[victor90]

Hi Boris
What size tank will you be putting the normal on? It is beautiful. We should get some normals on this next order.

[boris MAC]

Hi ATB USA,

This Normal, ( if we can say "Normal", it 32 cm foot) will operate on the tank 150 x 80 x 70 display tank, 100 x 50 x 35 filter tank and 50 x 50 x50 refugium. The tank already has nigh bioload(fish), and customer was looking for beter skimer.
When he saw in "person" this Normal white skimer, he did not think a lot ;)

Super size that we waiting to arrive soon will go under new 320 x 100 x 70 cm large display.

[hahnmeister]

So a 230g display tank pretty much... Yeah, the Normal should do a fine job on that.

[boris MAC]

Hi hann, yes I belive Normal will do excelent job in this setup, will see from today, going to isntal the skimer for the customer.

We have small under the tank of other customer, size of tank, 90 x 90 x75, semi cube, plus filter sump and smal refugium.
It still breaking in, one day skimm wet other too dry :), still adjusting the skimer. Water level in skimer compartment is somehow deeper, 36 cm, could this be a problem?

Both custemrs decide for KD 150 reactors, one is instaled and working, I'm very immpresed, no liking look very effiient. Not sure what should be the max effluent rate for KD 150. We try testing the efluent folowing days.

[victor90]

Hi Boris
I checked the sump water level 36cm is 14.17 inches this might be too high. In the US the recommended sump water level for the small is 6-8 inches. I think you can do a little higher since your pump output is 20% less. You might have to get a stand built for the skimmer.
Good luck
Victor

[boris MAC]

Hi Victor , yes I agree, we will raise the skimer a little.

[boris MAC]

Hallo,

This are the pics from teh NORMAL after insstalation, I realy sorry, but the bubbles so small I can not still them on the foto :)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/ajaks_31/P1020126-1.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/ajaks_31/P1020123.jpg

[jman77]

Wow ....that is nice ...really small bubbles !

[hahnmeister]

I had Thorium and 'tasha' (nait002) over on Sunday for a little bit, mostly to mod up another QO3000 for nait's 'uber AquaEuro400', but they were both very impressed by the foam coming out of the neck. I had just cleaned it that morning, and there was just about 1/4" of skimmate in the pot, but the cup itself was filled with dry foam... not much skimmate, but just super-dry foam from top to bottom.

[victor90]

Some pics of the US large
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/0029.jpg

[victor90]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/0022.jpg

[hahnmeister]

Time to smoke a cigar... that pump is sorta mah baby. Sure came out pretty. That whole thing is hella pretty.
http://www.meerwasserinfo.at/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=578
http://www.meerwasserinfo.at/phpBB2/files/airstar1500l_166.jpg

[gcarroll]

Very nice Victor. I need to sell some frags now.

[reef / aholic]

hahnmeister - here you go!!!

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/139055box.jpg

[hahnmeister]

It does sorta have some boy parts to it, doesnt it? Or are those girl parts? Lol.

[Snarlax]

So when will the airstar pumps be available on ATB skimmers?

[victor90]

Are you just looking for the pump? They are available with the skimmers

[Rwinfrey]

c'mon tell us the prices for both please please you are going to sell so many of these pump these things are going to be the new standard.

[victor90]

The large skimmer comes with the airstar1500 pump
meshwheel air intake of 2280L/hr on 47 watts
needle wheel air intake of 1500L/hr
The price for the pump alone is 649
We will have a pump exchange policy for all ATB owners with the airstar pumps
Thanks

[Jim_S]

That pump looks great!

Now all I need is an external version of the large...hint...hint... ;)

[victor90]

Hint well taken they are coming

[gcarroll]

Victor, you guys defintely need to come out with a flow pump version to compete with the Red Dragon. You know people are always looking for a low wattage pump as a return of closed loop.

[victor90]

I actually found out Anton is building one for the EU already