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discotu
11/21/2007, 08:42 PM
purchased this guy today...it was marked as a flame wrasse but now that it's home and cross checking with pics online...I'm not so sure...
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/landroving/IMG_2046.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/landroving/IMG_2040.jpg
philter4
11/21/2007, 08:49 PM
Not like my flame wrasse, Ive got a few and none has any black on fins, I know mine are jordani because I collected them in Hawaii and that is the only one from there.
LukFox
11/21/2007, 09:43 PM
Tongan Flame Wrasse
triggerfish1976
11/21/2007, 10:29 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11232627#post11232627 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LukFox
Tongan Flame Wrasse
I agree.
Great score.
H.Tanaka
11/22/2007, 07:53 AM
It is an undescribed species from Fiji and Tonga, and then 'Tonga Fairy' does not sound appropriate.
My friend and I will name it soon with several specimens from Tonga collected by Larry Sharron.
SDguy
11/22/2007, 08:10 AM
In socal they are going by the name Tongan Flame wrasse.
H.Tanaka
11/22/2007, 09:00 AM
Yes, I know it's already popular.
Hormigaquatica
11/22/2007, 11:35 AM
Dr Tanaka- I dont remember where I came across it at this point, but I heard it mentioned that this fish may be a subspecies of C. bathyphilus. Is there any truth to that, or is it just rumors and this is actually a valid seperate species?
H.Tanaka
11/22/2007, 04:34 PM
Yes, it has been regarded a variant or sub-species of bathyphilus, but now we think that it is a valid spcies; an authority has already reviewed our MS. Wait for our publication.
Hormigaquatica
11/22/2007, 05:24 PM
Good to know; Ill keep an eye out for the official name then.
Thanks!
Fairy Wrassler
11/23/2007, 05:37 AM
How is this one related to the Vanuatu flame?
http://www.wonderfish.com.au/uploads/img4742666d37e66.jpg
This one is definitely a bathyphilus and it seems to me that the Hooded and Flame Fairies from Vanuatu are bathyphilus colour variants.
Damned nice too :-)
Cheers,
FW
Fairy Wrassler
11/23/2007, 06:27 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11238937#post11238937 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fairy Wrassler
Correction: How is this the Tongan Flame related to the Vanuatu Flame (pictured below)?
http://www.wonderfish.com.au/uploads/img4742666d37e66.jpg
The Vanuatu Flame is definitely a bathyphilus (IMHO) and it seems to me that the Hooded and Flame Fairies from Vanuatu are bathyphilus colour variants. Is the Tongan a bathyphilus and if so, the same or similar to the Tongan?
My apologies for babbling in the previous post,
FW
H.Tanaka
11/23/2007, 06:49 AM
Fairy Wrasler,
Yours 'was' a variant of bathyphilus, but now we regard it a subspecies of that. We are writing a paper on this, too. It comes from southern part of Vanuatu, and 'Hooded' comes from northern islands.
discotu
12/03/2007, 03:17 PM
So I found a girlfriend for my Tongan Flame wrasse. Before i buy, i wanted to see what the chances are of them hitting it off. I would introduce the female via specimen container and obviously wait before adding her to the main tank.
Anyway, if there is a good chance it'll work out I'll go ahead and get her...if the odds are against it lemme know.
thanks!
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