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NewSchool04
11/27/2007, 08:45 AM
I was wondering if anyone noticed that their acros grew quicker after fragging them?

I've noticed mostly on my slow growers that after fragging, they seem to really shoot up the month after.

ataylo13
11/27/2007, 09:12 AM
I have read from different people that when they frag an acro that it will branch (Y) where it was clipped. Has anyone else noticed that?

But alas none of my colored sticks are at a frag-able size... yet :)

leeweber85
11/27/2007, 03:56 PM
I've noticed on millies that after your frag a branch, it usually starts to grow 4 or more branches from that spot.

NewSchool04
11/27/2007, 06:30 PM
Anyone else? Anyone notice a speed up on growth after cutting?

snyder2050
11/27/2007, 10:48 PM
IME whenever I frag a sps they sprout multiple branches from the location of the cut. So if you frag where there was a single branch and it sprouts multiple you'll get increased growth by having more growth tips.

chrismhaase
11/27/2007, 10:58 PM
I have noticed that fragging entices multiple growths. Go get cutting!!

dots
11/28/2007, 12:35 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11269549#post11269549 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrismhaase
I have noticed that fragging entices multiple growths. Go get cutting!!

That is the word on the street, but I am too chicken to do it.......besides, I have waited a long time for that 1/2" tall nub and I want to appreciate it.

jeffbrig
11/28/2007, 07:54 AM
I had blue tort frag that had grown to a single 5" stalk in about 6 months. I fragged it about halfway up. In 3 months since, I have two new branches almost 2" each coming up from the base, and the existing branch has split into 5 new tips.

Jester
11/28/2007, 10:05 AM
nothing I've had is big enough to frag, but I know my digitata branches off where I accidently break something off...

SDguy
11/28/2007, 10:55 AM
Interesting. Whenever I cut a single branch (single, clean,straight cut, perpendicular to the branch), it simply grows back the branch, splitting later, but as normal growth...nothing I would attribute to the cutting. Due to the way corals grow, I find it surprising that people are seeing their acros "sprouting" as if the were plants.

I also don't notice faster growth after cutting.

DurTBear
11/28/2007, 03:00 PM
Random question...at what height/length do you consider an sps to be "fragable?"

miwoodar
11/28/2007, 03:28 PM
I have a small table that I purchased at about the size of a quarter (8 tiny branches). I had if for a year and all it did was encrust the rock I attached it to. After fragging a few of my other corals and seeing them sprout I went ahead and lopped off all of the branches on the table. It has now grown maybe 30 new tips in the past 4 months and is larger than a silver dollar.

fishdoc11
11/29/2007, 05:32 AM
I notice faster growth some of the time after fragging. More often than not I notice multiple branches sprouting from the same spot. A lot depends on the type of coral and the flow present.
Something else that I have noticed at times is sometimes when you aquire a new piece it kind of browns out and stops growing for a while but still looks healthy as far as polyp extension etc..... Often you can jump start the corals transition to the color it is going to take on in your tank by fragging. Both the frag and the new growth will often be a different color while the remaining part will remain the same sort of browned out color. Hope that makes sense:)
Chris

stevedola
11/29/2007, 07:31 AM
Just clipped my tricolor 3 weeks ago and already have 3 little nubs shooting off. Same thing happened to my blue stag when it was clean cut from t he top...it has 3 nubs also.

jay24k
11/29/2007, 08:13 AM
I have a blue tort where I didn't frag it. It grew about 4 to 5 inches tall and then split. So I'm not sure if we can base it off that. It could also be the way it heals. I bet you could force splits by gluing a thin spacer at the cut to force it to grow around it.

stevedola
11/29/2007, 09:24 AM
prob could do that...might just grow over that spacer but may make some sort of odd growth from it.

SDguy
11/29/2007, 10:46 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11278081#post11278081 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stevedola
prob could do that...might just grow over that spacer but may make some sort of odd growth from it.

I've had this happen occasionally when a coraline "flake" has fallen onto the acro :rolleyes:

leeweber85
11/29/2007, 04:57 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11273147#post11273147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DurTBear
Random question...at what height/length do you consider an sps to be "fragable?"


I don't like to frag anything until it has reached 3-4 inches with multiple branches...but there are always those accidental frags on smaller colonies that still make it. Generally after the colony has encrusted on to a rock you will be safe to frag it.. You have to be careful when you glue the new frags down as the glue heats them up and can kill them.

nismo driver
11/29/2007, 08:39 PM
the garf site has documentation supporting the fragging for increased growth theory.. also positioning frags to promote branching..

NewSchool04
11/29/2007, 08:45 PM
Reason I asked was I was thinking about fragging my A. gomezi. Take the two top tips off to promote some growth. It's not what I would consider a slow grower but definitely not a fast one.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/NewSchool04/CIMG5476.jpg

mcliffy2
11/29/2007, 11:20 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11282585#post11282585 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NewSchool04
Reason I asked was I was thinking about fragging my A. gomezi. Take the two top tips off to promote some growth. It's not what I would consider a slow grower but definitely not a fast one.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/NewSchool04/CIMG5476.jpg


Youre just looking for an excuse to show that amazin pic again ;)

When you frag it check that thread on the chicago board and see whos first in line...I think it may be... ME :)

NewSchool04
11/30/2007, 07:42 AM
Ha, you may be right! :lol:

stryker
11/30/2007, 08:29 AM
I haven't noticed an increased growth rate. the healing of the cut area might be mistaken for faster growth, since the exposed area usually has a larger diameter.

i have noticed more branches developing from a fresh cut wound. It seems to have to do with the texture of the wound. A jagged texture promotes more branching while a smooth surface tends to grow a single branch. I prefer breaking branches as opposed to cutting them, to leave a more jagged wound.

any type of fragging seems to stress the coral, as it loses color slightly.