Are tunze pumps really worth the money?

[Redbellyjx]

Ok, so they make a million gallons per hour flow. they make a very gentle, broad flow. They are controllable by pulses, on off timers, etc. The random flow is supposed to promote more polyp extention in SPS corals and replicate ocean currents better. It really is a nifty piece of equipment.

I am thinking of upping the flow in mytank. my two options are 2 tunze 6100s or adding an additional 2 seio 1500s (making 4 total)

only draw back is that 2 tunzes and a multicontroller sets you back about $800 (used). (compared to the 400 i would spend on all four seios new)

with two tunzes 6100s and a controller, i can have them create 2,000 and 6,000 gallons per hour!!! thats 18 - 48 x turn over in my tank from two pumps!


To do this with the seios, i would need 4 1500 gph Seio pumps

Energy wise, its about the same. cost wise the tunze are almost twice as much. but functionality wise... does the better functionality of the tunze justify the pumps costing over twice as much? It seems as soon as they appear in the classifieds, they are sold. That must mean something

[Bebo77]

have you seen the new mj mods? i think those are the best bang for the buck out right now...

http://www.algaefree.com/sure_flow.html

[Redbellyjx]

thats cool. i haven't seen that before.

but are they pumps controllable on a wavemaker?

[glxtrix]

nope. I've used those maxi mods on a wavemaster pro and the propellers snapped off of two of them. I dont know if you could use those pumps on say a seio controller....not too sure how they would hold up to that.

[Bebo77]

i have the "old" mod kits.. they work fine on a timer for me...

[Redbellyjx]

i'm keeping these other options in mind.

but what about the original question. are tunzes that much better?

[BlueCorn]

I used to think that Tunze Streams were expensive, until I bought a pair.

Now I'd not even consider a tank with out them.

[Redbellyjx]

beer guy, i have a 125, almost the same dimensions as your 180. what model do you use? how many?

[Bebo77]

i have 2 6200's and 4 mj mods... the mj mods are louder and produce less water movement then the tunze's... if you can afford them i say get them... lol.. but like most things in this hobby.. you gotta pay to play

[BlueCorn]

I've got two 6100s on a controller and a wavebox.

[Redbellyjx]

wow thats a lot of movement

[saltysupply]

depends on your budget...I love the tunzes and they produce amazing gentle flow....If you are on budget go with koralia's or mod some maxi jets.

[LooklikeME]

Ive went from 4 maxi jets to 4 Koralia's to Finally 2 6101's and I love them.If you can afford em GET EM!!

[McCrary]

I have 2 Tunze 6100's on a 7095 and really like them, they are well worth the money to me.

[atvdave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11313975#post11313975 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Redbellyjx
beer guy, i have a 125, almost the same dimensions as your 180. what model do you use? how many?

I have a 125 also. I have 2 6045's modded to flow about 1100gph each. I also have a Mag 18 with 2 return lines as my main pump. I don't have a wave box or anything but with all the water movement crashing into one another it does create a small wave like motion inside my tank. I like the look.

It may be a cheaper way to go.

and by the way.. Tunzes customer service is the best in the industry. hands down.

[mg426]

I have never used the Tunze units but I have seem them in action at a couple LFS. Wow is all I can say they move some water, on the controllers they are nothing short of awesome. Mabe Santa will bring me one LOL

[fastfish]

I have two Tunze Stream 6100 pumps on a controller and a tunze wavebox. So far,I am very happy with result.

[invincible569]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11313964#post11313964 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
I used to think that Tunze Streams were expensive, until I bought a pair.

Now I'd not even consider a tank with out them.


thats exactly how i felt. Now i have 2 6201's and am very happy.

[gasman059]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=#post target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
I used to think that Tunze Streams were expensive, until I bought a pair.

Now I'd not even consider a tank with out them.
I agree 100% I currently have 3 6100 and 2 6025. Great investment.

[old salty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11313964#post11313964 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
I used to think that Tunze Streams were expensive, until I bought a pair.

Now I'd not even consider a tank with out them.


I used to think you would be smoking crack to make me believe shelling out the money for Tunze is worth it. After dealing with Chinese made junk (Seio) and Maxijet mods, I now have two 6201's and two 6100's and the multi controller.

Keep in mind, Tunze are NOT going to win the "Bang for the Buck" award. Roger provides top notch customer service on top of things, which is also included in the price.

[DocG]

I have fairly extensive experience with both Tunze and Sieos and I will tell you that although you are paying double for the Tunze you are getting a product that works 10 times better.

The functionality of the Tunze absolutely does justify the higher expense. Like it has already been said multiple times on this thread, I could not imagine a tank without Tunze. It would be like having a computer without the internet (although I am definitely old enough to remember those days).

[poppin_fresh]

I have been very happy with all my Tunze equipment. It works as advertised and I've had no issues in almost 3 years.

The nice thing about Tunzes is that hold their value. If you needed to sell them for some reason, you wont take a beating.

[grandp10]

I have 2 Tunze 6060's and they are the loudest pumps I have ever owned.

[Jim_S]

I love my 6100's for all the reasons mentioned above. I you have the cash, grab a set. You won't regret it.

And if for some reason you do, they go very quickly in the selling forum :D

[xtm]

Very reliable. You absolutely get what you pay for and they are worth every penny.

Get one even if you don't have the money.

[tbone28]

I've got (2) 6201's on my 180g. Pricey, but WELL worth it. I love watching my water swirl around.

[jman77]

I've got a pair of 6000's and a 7095 controller and still thinks they're expensive... I've also got a pair of MAxijets with the algae free mods and think they are great. If I had to do over, I would have gone maxijet mods with a seio controller...they are cheap, move alot of water, and are way smaller than the Tunze Streams

[markandkristen]

i love tunze's as well.
they are aweseom as far as heat transfer to you tank. (hardly any)

had some seio a while back my tank jumped 4 degrees. rrr.

like others have said they hold their value as well.

im a cheap skate just like others on this forum. but have learned that rich people arent stupid either.

most rich people dont get rich by making dumb decisions over and over.

saying that i used to see people that had money buy tunze's

thinking they were just wasting money. then when i bought some i realized they werent so dumb ...

just look at the impellers on these sytem... they are quality...

they also sell parts that supposebly wear out over time for very cheap. like 4-5 dollars a part. and only 3 dollars shipping.

i like to know when i leave home... that im not looking to see if the duct tape has fallen off something that was rigged to save a dollar.

[jman77]

The earlier in life you learn this, the less frustrating it should be.

Spending a lot of money on something does not always make it great, spending little on something does not always make it bad.

I know a few multi millionaires and guess what , they are cheaper than me on alot of things. They became and stayed millionaires for a reason I guess.

i've also had to replace a part on my stream and it didn't cost 5 bucks, it was more like 80.00

Lets all not forget the fact the the US Dollar has taken a nose dive and these products are sold in Germany…. So….if you think they are expensive now …

I’ve got 2 x 900 maxijet mods that move a heck of a lot of water in my 120g tank…I mean a lot … …again..they are great, cheap, and can be put on wave makers…

[neyugn0w01]

worth every penny.

[InvaderJim]

I have 2 6025s in my 40g and I love them. A friend of mine has about 8 Streams in his 800g and he swears by them. He's the one who convinced me to get the nano streams. The are defiantly worth every penny.

[tonyscoots84]

dont go with the seio's waste of money there...

go with the tunzes which i used to have or go with the vortechs which i have now... they take up almost no space and are great pumps...

[Scissorhand]

Worth the money.

A lot of folks over look the 6060 and 6080, which are not controllable, yet are very strong, powerful and affordable.

I bought a used pair of 6060 + magnet for $100.

Now if you put together a maxijet mod, your total will come out to:

$18.95 pump + $14.99 sure flow + $24.95 magnet = $60

Performance wise they're worlds apart.

[onano]

Love my Tunze's..... Service is awesome thanks to Roger. You get what you pay for every time with this brand.

[tgunn]

I've got two 6101s on my 120g. I used to run a large Sequence 1000 pump on a closed loop. The amount of flow with the Streams is amazing. They use so little power I'm saving around $6 per month in electricity, and they generate so little heat that my tank is about 2 degrees cooler year round.

I was leary about the price at first, but they were by far the best purchase for my tank so far!

[slovan]

Here's what I have owned before I bought Tunze streams.
3) Maxijet mods
1) Seio M1500
1) Vortech

Here's the Tunze streams I have bought for 4 different tanks I have owned over the years. I doubt I will buy anything else unless there is something that just blows away the market.
1) 6080
2) 6100
1) 6045
3) 6025
1) 6055

[JOSE CASAS]

I can say the flow this and that bla bla bbllaa but we who have them know they are awsome and there customer service is NO JOKE thanks Roger.

[Redbellyjx]

Can tunzi (is that even right?) be controlled via Aqua Controller or Reef Controller?

Or can it only be controller by the Tunze controller?

[slovan]

Pronunciation:http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=833262

Aside from Tunze controllers, you can also use the Neptune Aqua Surf or Profilux controller. There may be others but I haven't been looking.

[Redbellyjx]

tunzi- my aweful attempt at pluralizing

[glassbox-design]

toon-zah, the "e" at the end is included as "ahh". just like prosche, it's por-shaa not porsh ;)

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11320226#post11320226 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flint&Eric
toon-zah, the "e" at the end is included as "ahh". just like prosche, it's por-shaa not porsh ;)

Yeah, but in English they are commonly and acceptably called Ton-zee right?

But when in Germany, Toon-Zah.

[dkh0331]

No matter how you want to pronounce it - they are just one of the best companies in this space and wish I would have purchased their pumps and controllers earlier.

[xtm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11317981#post11317981 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Scissorhand
A lot of folks over look the 6060 and 6080, which are not controllable, yet are very strong, powerful and affordable.

I bought a used pair of 6060 + magnet for $100.

I'm glad you liked the deal :D

I have another 6060 that I bench tested with a Killa-watt... if I recall correctly I think it benched a mere 10 watts. I mean, how many other pumps out there can move that much water using so little electricity? Not to mention the peace of mind knowing your tank is safe (think Rio)

[glassbox-design]

german word gets german pronounciation for me. same goes for any other language.

[MiddletonMark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11313847#post11313847 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Redbellyjx
It seems as soon as they appear in the classifieds, they are sold. That must mean something
Beyond the customer service, the quality, all the mentioned stuff .... IMO this is a perceptive comment you made.

Unless it's brand new or `hyped' product ... if it's sold within 24 hours every time they are offered [for years now] - IMO that's often a good sign that it's a great product.

Add to that the fact that Tunze stuff tends to be sold not that much marked down when used .... I don't see where you can go wrong IMO.

[burton14e7]

I've had streams and went with Vortechs this time. Just wanted to try something new. They're good pumps, my only issue is the nano's little tiny clips break and then you have to superglue them to the magnets. Also if you don't have their manget holders their bracket systems can be a head ache if you're not familiar with their design. I had to jerry rig my wavebox brackets because they don't make them compatible with horizontal panes(the stream brackets do just the wavebox brackets don't) and I didn't feel like spending 100.00 on magnets. Although I probably will end up buying them in a few months just so it looks official.

Having a few exchange students while in high school they butcher our language as much as we butcher theirs.

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11320681#post11320681 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by burton14e7
Having a few exchange students while in high school they butcher our language as much as we butcher theirs.

Exactly. After going over seas and hearing how they pronounce some of our words, I feel MUCH less inclined to stray from my English pronunciation. Heck, in Japan, the pronounce McDonald's - ma-ku-do-na-ru-do....


But no matter how you say it, these pumps rock :D

[BreadmanMike]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11321244#post11321244 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jimdogg187
Exactly. After going over seas and hearing how they pronounce some of our words, I feel MUCH less inclined to stray from my English pronunciation. Heck, in Japan, the pronounce McDonald's - ma-ku-do-na-ru-do....


But no matter how you say it, these pumps rock :D

Corals love them... so put some in your tank already!:p

[hyperfocal]

Me too.

I always thought that Tunze's were overpriced luxury gilded lilies... until I bought my 6055s. Worth every penny, and if you take depreciation and resale value into consideration they work out to be *cheaper* than Seios/Koralias and maybe even MJMods.

[raskal311]

If your going to go with a tunze do it now, prices are going up by 12% in a few weeks.

[invincible569]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11321800#post11321800 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by raskal311
If your going to go with a tunze do it now, prices are going up by 12% in a few weeks.

is that a tunze price jump?

[BreadmanMike]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11321972#post11321972 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by invincible569
is that a tunze price jump?

Yup, the euro is killing the dollar. I believe it's 1.47 euro to 1.00 USD.

[jman77]

"Yup, the euro is killing the dollar. "

correction , the the US dollar is loosing value fast... the euro has nothing to do with the us dollar losing it's value....

The dollar is loosing value to almost every other currency.

But that is another conversation all together :bum:

I'm holding on to all my German reef equipment so i can sell it in two years and retire , lol

[dphins]

They already went up in price.

[McCrary]

Is there any difference between the 6100 and the 6101?

[BreadmanMike]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11323213#post11323213 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by McCrary
Is there any difference between the 6100 and the 6101?


The 6101 has the driver built into the pump and can be turned into a 6000 by flipping a switch on it. The same goes for the 6201 which can be turned into a 6100 the same way.

[northbay-reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11323213#post11323213 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by McCrary
Is there any difference between the 6100 and the 6101?

Yeap the tunze 6101 have hte coil builtinside the pump itself so its heavier and tend to bounce up and down a little bit. I like the 6100 better.

Their is a wave controller in the works for the MJmods(simmilar to the seio controller but with more chanels and wave options) which will make it much more afforable, after that it doesn't matter if the dollar drops :D :D

[grandp10]

I wonder why my 6060's are so loud when everyone else says they are reliable? Sometimes they get really loud and I have to unplug the electrical then plug it back in to get it to quiet down. The pump is only 2 months old. The original impeller was loud so got a new one, it was quiet for a month then got loud again. Any help please even Roger ant Tunze could not help. They are definately louder than my Koralia 4's. Most Tunze 6100's and 6000's I have heard in person and can barley hear them. Thanks.

[McCrary]

Weird, my 6100's are whisper quiet, maybe a good long vinegar soak would help.

[old salty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11321244#post11321244 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jimdogg187
Heck, in Japan, the pronounce McDonald's - ma-ku-do-na-ru-do....





Having lived in Japan for four years, I am laughing my butt off; that is EXACTLY how they pronounce it!!

As for Tunze, I have Americanized the pronunciation of my last name which is 100% Bavarian. I pronounce it "TOONZ" and won't change any time soon.

Frank-En Styne or Fronk-In-Steen??

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11321432#post11321432 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
Corals love them... so put some in your tank already!:p

:lol:

Relentless!! :p

One of these days I'll go back.....


But I love the fish man!!!!!!!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11324024#post11324024 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by old salty
Having lived in Japan for four years, I am laughing my butt off; that is EXACTLY how they pronounce it!!

:lol:

Too funny!! Crazy huh?

I'm headed over to Tokyo at the end of this month. My 4 trip there. It gets crazier every time I go back :D


grandp,

Yeah, my 6100's are silent as well. It might be time to give those babies a vinegar bath. If that doesn't work, I'm sure Roger from Tunze USA can give you some pointers :) One of the best things about these things is the customer service you get :D

[jamesdawson]

I have 4 6100s, a wavebox, magnets, 7095 controller, and a 9020 skimmer. Best money I ever spent on reefing equipment and Tunze and IceCap have the best customer service in the reefing world IME.

James

[grandp10]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11324722#post11324722 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jimdogg187



grandp,

Yeah, my 6100's are silent as well. It might be time to give those babies a vinegar bath. If that doesn't work, I'm sure Roger from Tunze USA can give you some pointers :) One of the best things about these things is the customer service you get :D Actually these pumps were loud from the start. I contacted Roger and told him about this and he did send me new impellers. That helped like I said for about a month, then they got loud again. I contacted Roger again and he had me send them in to get fixed. He sent them back after running them and said there was nothing he could do about how loud they were. So, in short everyone is right about the good customer service. I still just do not understand how or why these pumps are so loud. The impellers and everything associated with them are very clean. So as far as the 6060's maybe they are just not good quality, or there was a bad batch. Since they are still in warranty I may ask Roger to swap them out for new ones of a different batch. Thanks for the input.

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11323241#post11323241 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
The 6101 has the driver built into the pump and can be turned into a 6000 by flipping a switch on it. The same goes for the 6201 which can be turned into a 6100 the same way.

I have the 6201. Where is this switch?

[dhnguyen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11324923#post11324923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by grandp10
Actually these pumps were loud from the start. I contacted Roger and told him about this and he did send me new impellers. That helped like I said for about a month, then they got loud again. I contacted Roger again and he had me send them in to get fixed. He sent them back after running them and said there was nothing he could do about how loud they were. So, in short everyone is right about the good customer service. I still just do not understand how or why these pumps are so loud. The impellers and everything associated with them are very clean. So as far as the 6060's maybe they are just not good quality, or there was a bad batch. Since they are still in warranty I may ask Roger to swap them out for new ones of a different batch. Thanks for the input.

There's a trick to quiet it down but you may lose your warranty over it :)

Basically the propeller is unbalanced and causing excessive vibration and noise.

[Tennsquire]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11323132#post11323132 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dphinsx2
They already went up in price.

I love my Tunzes, my fish love my Tunzes, and my corals love my Tunzes. I am also a bit partial to dphinsx2's avatar. It makes me want to eat fish for some strange reason.....

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11328554#post11328554 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
I have the 6201. Where is this switch?

Take a look at page 33 & 34
http://www.tunze.com/fileadmin/gebrauchsanleitungen/x6101.8888.pdf

[BreadmanMike]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11324722#post11324722 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jimdogg187
:lol:

Relentless!! :p

One of these days I'll go back.....


But I love the fish man!!!!!!!


Someone has to pick on you. I think you're the only person on here with top notch reefing equipment on a FOWLR. :p

[sfsuphysics]

Now I have no experience with Tunzes, but I've used just about every single Seio product out there, the 620s were nice, they did their job, relatively nice flow for very little power at a fairly cheap price, but for any large tank they're quite useless, then my SPS tank I ran 2600s and 1500 model ones, and they seemed to be ok, but they really are crap. I broke down and got Vortech pumps, not to get in a debate over vortech vs tunze now, but tunze definitely did make the shortlist of what to replace the seios with, losing out only because my tank is only 18" front to back.

[LooklikeME]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11328554#post11328554 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tbone28
I have the 6201. Where is this switch?
Its not a switch you switch the supplied fuses in the laptop battery like connector.I cant remember but I think its a 15 and 30amp fuse

[BreadmanMike]

It's actually jumpers you switch to make the change.

[dhnguyen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11329820#post11329820 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sfsuphysics
Now I have no experience with Tunzes, but I've used just about every single Seio product out there, the 620s were nice, they did their job, relatively nice flow for very little power at a fairly cheap price, but for any large tank they're quite useless, then my SPS tank I ran 2600s and 1500 model ones, and they seemed to be ok, but they really are crap. I broke down and got Vortech pumps, not to get in a debate over vortech vs tunze now, but tunze definitely did make the shortlist of what to replace the seios with, losing out only because my tank is only 18" front to back.


I sure hope you don't have an acrylic tank with those Vortech pumps. Or yours may end up like this tank

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1183341&perpage=25&pagenumber=37