I think my BTA is unhappy

[HABS#1]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/Anemonepics002.jpg

I think it may be unhappy I put it in last week Sunday and it was all full and bulbed up now it seems all stringy and some tentacles seem very flat and shriveled up Hope the top pic is good enough to see what I am talking about as it was an older digi cam I used as it was out on teh desk.

[Lotus99]

Is its mouth gaping at all? Have you checked your water parameters? How long has it been deflated?

[Uyro1]

What is it again, and what are you feeding it, does it get phyto plankton?

[steven_dean17]

Feed it and light it. If it is moving alot it's looking for a better home.

[Aquarist007]

can you do a full tank pic so we can see where it is located with respect to everything else.

[HABS#1]

It has not moved from the location it is in it chose that local after being in the tank for about 10 minutes and has stayed there. It gets Krill I have fed it 2 times in the last week the last time was today. My clowns go near it and seem to nip at it they have not hosted (not unusual) not percs so I have maybe a 50/50 chance of it happening. It has been deflated for the last 3 days or so and some tentacles look like they are shrivled up.

Here is a full tank pic sorry it is dark the lights go out at 8 PM in the system along with the Koralia2 they are on the same timer. The koralia1 stays on along with the filter and heater.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/DSC_0579.jpg

[dsn112]

what kind of lighting you using?

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11399721#post11399721 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dsn112
what kind of lighting you using?

I don't know if I should answer a Flyers fan LOL. No I use an 18K and an Actinic T-8 setup.

[vr697getta]

how long has the tank been set up for

[HABS#1]

3 or so months now I guess. All water params are fine they are tested every other day and the ones I can't test for I have my local LFS test. Water temp is 78/80 degrees 0 amon 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 0.015 PO PH is at 8.2.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11400063#post11400063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
3 or so months now I guess. All water params are fine they are tested every other day and the ones I can't test for I have my local LFS test. Water temp is 78/80 degrees 0 amon 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 0.015 PO PH is at 8.2.

at least he's not a Leaf Fan--lol

Unless your alk is very high--not listed--then the bta could just be taking its time adjusting to the tank.
they do that from time to time and then seem to bounce back again.

[dsn112]

Wait till the Finals when the Flyers are still playing

[SuperNerd]

what are the rest of your parameters?

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11402119#post11402119 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dsn112
Wait till the Finals when the Flyers are still playing

about as much chance as them playing the leafs in the finals:D

second look at the picture--you have some cyano on the substrate--either overfeeding or underflow. Direct the korilia down more and the bta will like it too.
I woudn't bother to try and feed it until it settles in--it could be spitting the food out after and that is contributing to the cyano.

[sunfish11]

I don't know if I should answer a Flyers fan LOL. No I use an 18K and an Actinic T-8 setup.

How many watts? Anenome's don't usually like new tanks very much, and they need a lot of light.

Lisa

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11402701#post11402701 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
about as much chance as them playing the leafs in the finals:D

second look at the picture--you have some cyano on the substrate--either overfeeding or underflow. Direct the korilia down more and the bta will like it too.
I woudn't bother to try and feed it until it settles in--it could be spitting the food out after and that is contributing to the cyano.

The scripting in red is oh so true LOL... Anyhow I guess I won't bother trying to feed it for a bit longer and see where we go from there. Thanks for the info guys oh and Lisa the lights are 25W I believe.

Also Captain the cyano was really bad up till a couple days ago it is now almost gone. Of course I went to buy red slime remover and didn't need to use it as it has cleared up on it's own with the addition of the Koralia2 and the change in feeding. Was 2 times a day morning and night to once a day mid day.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11403409#post11403409 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
The scripting in red is oh so true LOL... Anyhow I guess I won't bother trying to feed it for a bit longer and see where we go from there. Thanks for the info guys oh and Lisa the lights are 25W I believe.

Also Captain the cyano was really bad up till a couple days ago it is now almost gone. Of course I went to buy red slime remover and didn't need to use it as it has cleared up on it's own with the addition of the Koralia2 and the change in feeding. Was 2 times a day morning and night to once a day mid day.

I actually got in disfavour for saying this on a local reef forum---but do not consider red slime remover unless your tank is mature--over a year old
cyano is a bacteria---so are the good bacteria in your tank--so they are going to take a hit also.

as you have already found out treating with increased flow and changing your feeding habits can make a big difference with it

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11403557#post11403557 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
I actually got in disfavour for saying this on a local reef forum---but do not consider red slime remover unless your tank is mature--over a year old
cyano is a bacteria---so are the good bacteria in your tank--so they are going to take a hit also.

as you have already found out treating with increased flow and changing your feeding habits can make a big difference with it

It sure did I was just getting impatient with no results and went and bought the stuff only to see the next morning I didn't need to use it (go figure) so I have returned it and got a store credit and I am using that towards a 20 GAL for the kids room to put in 2 clowns and some corals.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11403591#post11403591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
It sure did I was just getting impatient with no results and went and bought the stuff only to see the next morning I didn't need to use it (go figure) so I have returned it and got a store credit and I am using that towards a 20 GAL for the kids room to put in 2 clowns and some corals.

check out mops.ca--he's local--mail order or pick up--at least a third less on all hardware and related stuff

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11403591#post11403591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
It sure did I was just getting impatient with no results and went and bought the stuff only to see the next morning I didn't need to use it (go figure) so I have returned it and got a store credit and I am using that towards a 20 GAL for the kids room to put in 2 clowns and some corals.

while your at it pick them up a leafs shirt and hat:lol: :lol:

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11403636#post11403636 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
while your at it pick them up a leafs shirt and hat:lol: :lol:

Sorry the only time I ever pick up anything with the leafs on it is to toss it in the trash LOL...

I will check out mops is that the shop in Ancaster/Hamilton?

Any comments on this skimmer?

http://www.mops.ca/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/cshop/PSAM-PS2.html?L+scstore+cyyf8912fffefffe

[steri]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11399780#post11399780 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
I don't know if I should answer a Flyers fan LOL. No I use an 18K and an Actinic T-8 setup.

I think there may not be enough light in the tank to support the anemone. That's my guess. You may need to add some more light and more of a spectrum. 18k and an actinic means you have a very heavy blue spectrum in your tank, but not a ton else.

Not that I should help you anyways......go Blackhawks! :lol:

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11404530#post11404530 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by steri
I think there may not be enough light in the tank to support the anemone. That's my guess. You may need to add some more light and more of a spectrum. 18k and an actinic means you have a very heavy blue spectrum in your tank, but not a ton else.

Not that I should help you anyways......go Blackhawks! :lol:

These are the lights I am using.

http://www.hagen.com/canada/english/aquatic/product.cfm?CAT=1&SUBCAT=112&PROD_ID=01016260010101

http://www.hagen.com/canada/english/aquatic/product.cfm?CAT=1&SUBCAT=112&PROD_ID=01016030010101

By the way I have a friend from home that plays for the Hawks he was traded there last season from the Dead Wings

[dileggi]

I won't make any Habs comments after the last game...they seem to own the Flyers lately! Haha!

I've heard that the BTA's are very tough to keep in smaller tanks under 50g. I don't know if that's true or not, but someone at my LFS told me that, so I stayed away from it. I would like to know if anyone knows if that is not correct, as I would love to try one.

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11404791#post11404791 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dileggi
I won't make any Habs comments after the last game...they seem to own the Flyers lately! Haha!

I've heard that the BTA's are very tough to keep in smaller tanks under 50g. I don't know if that's true or not, but someone at my LFS told me that, so I stayed away from it. I would like to know if anyone knows if that is not correct, as I would love to try one.

I was reading on liveaquaria that 30 gal is ok for them so that is why we went with this particular species.

[dileggi]

By the way I have a friend from home that plays for the Hawks he was traded there last season from the Dead Wings


Would that be Jason Williams?

[dileggi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11404822#post11404822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
I was reading on liveaquaria that 30 gal is ok for them so that is why we went with this particular species.

I just looked on there as well and you're right. I wonder if I should give one a go. It's tough because when you ask different people, you seem to get different answers. It's so hard to figure out what is right and what is someone's opinion. I'm starting to think that a lot of it is trial and error!

[SuperNerd]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe BTAs can get up to 12 inches in diameter...and I'm not sure if that includes tentacles. You also need to think about the possibility of it splitting and taking up more space.

From what I've read on RC, not all of them need a huge amount of light. Talk to phender here on RC. I think he's kept some anemones under what some reefers would consider "weak" lighting. If the tank is shallow, you may be able to get away with using less intense lighting. If the tank is deep then more intense lighting may be needed.

You should also be careful about what online vendors recommend as an appropriate tank size for the critters they sell. Not all of them are entirely accurate.

[dsn112]

dileggi, stay away from any anemone. They are more hassle than they are worth. They do what they want, and they need a ton of light and a very mature tank. Im pretty sure your tank is less than 6 months.

What now, two Flyers fans in one post!!

[dileggi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11405192#post11405192 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dsn112
dileggi, stay away from any anemone. They are more hassle than they are worth. They do what they want, and they need a ton of light and a very mature tank. Im pretty sure your tank is less than 6 months.

What now, two Flyers fans in one post!!
Thanks for the input dsn. I'll stay away as my tank is less than 6 mos old. It's only been running for about 3 mos now.

I know, that's more Flyers fans in this post than wins that they can string together....but they still want my season ticket money! haha!

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11404832#post11404832 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dileggi
By the way I have a friend from home that plays for the Hawks he was traded there last season from the Dead Wings


Would that be Jason Williams?

Yes that would be Willy. I was just over at his parents place a couple weeks ago for some beers and to help them out with their new laptop they got.

[dileggi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11407412#post11407412 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
Yes that would be Willy. I was just over at his parents place a couple weeks ago for some beers and to help them out with their new laptop they got.

Sweet! Good luck to him with the Hawks. They're certainly turning things around there. But, I guess anything is better than what they were!

Any luck with the BTA?

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11403965#post11403965 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
Sorry the only time I ever pick up anything with the leafs on it is to toss it in the trash LOL...

I will check out mops is that the shop in Ancaster/Hamilton?

Any comments on this skimmer?

http://www.mops.ca/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/cshop/PSAM-PS2.html?L+scstore+cyyf8912fffefffe

Hamilton east mountain--there is a web page--just be creative with the name----I don't want to ruffle any fins of our sponsors here.:D

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11404991#post11404991 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SuperNerd
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe BTAs can get up to 12 inches in diameter...and I'm not sure if that includes tentacles. You also need to think about the possibility of it splitting and taking up more space.

From what I've read on RC, not all of them need a huge amount of light. Talk to phender here on RC. I think he's kept some anemones under what some reefers would consider "weak" lighting. If the tank is shallow, you may be able to get away with using less intense lighting. If the tank is deep then more intense lighting may be needed.

You should also be careful about what online vendors recommend as an appropriate tank size for the critters they sell. Not all of them are entirely accurate.

true---don't worry about light etc --they will move until they are comfortable.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11410989#post11410989 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
true---don't worry about light etc --they will move until they are comfortable.

nows a good time for introducing--its not tempted to create a movement path using "shock and awe":D

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11405192#post11405192 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dsn112
dileggi, stay away from any anemone. They are more hassle than they are worth. They do what they want, and they need a ton of light and a very mature tank. Im pretty sure your tank is less than 6 months.

What now, two Flyers fans in one post!!

not all anemome---I have carpet anenome that do no harm--same with a rose tip--it has not moved from its rock since day one.
I have tried unsuccessfully with a deep pink long tentacle anenome---and just gave up--kept moving and digging big holes in the substrated.

Now is a good time to experiment--not much in the tank to get in the way of the bubble tip until its confortable.

[Seldric]

I've have a anemone for over 3 years now and i just changed setup, but it always stayed where i put it. it has never moved once, I find it is no trouble at all

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11410533#post11410533 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dileggi
Sweet! Good luck to him with the Hawks. They're certainly turning things around there. But, I guess anything is better than what they were!

Any luck with the BTA?

Well teh BTa seems happier today it is inflated for the most part so I snapped some pics then it started to deflate maybe it doesn't like the flash from eh camera LOL It must be camera shy.

Here are the pics I took today along with some pics of the button Polyp and blue leg crabs one of the biggest ones it was just tiny when we brought it home oh how the little baby has grown LOL

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/Nemandpolyp008.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/Nemandpolyp003.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/Nemandpolyp010.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/Nemandpolyp009.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/roadracerstarky/Nemandpolyp013.jpg

[dileggi]

They all look great. Your pics turn out much better than any of mine ever do!

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11411783#post11411783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dileggi
They all look great. Your pics turn out much better than any of mine ever do!

I get better pics when I use the wifes Nikon D80 rather than the old Canon A510 point and shoot LOL. It is the camera not the person behind it I assure you of that LOL.

[wrott]

I think you need more than 40W of blue light to keep BTA or coral in the long run. Your anem looks bleached.
Something like 150W MH would be about right, IMO.

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11412523#post11412523 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wrott
I think you need more than 40W of blue light to keep BTA or coral in the long run. Your anem looks bleached.
Something like 150W MH would be about right, IMO.

Not going to happen no MH coming to my house LOL. I am going to be upgrating to some T5's but that is as high as I am going. As for teh bleached look the nem is a very translucent green but it always looks white even in the LFS store I got it from.

[Aquarist007]

IMO--if he keeps it well feed by spot feeding twice a week it should be ok in that lighting.
The only reefers that seem to find fault with the t5's seem to be the ones with the really delicate sps's

back to hockey-- I was touring a warehouse today(I'm am a job and placement coordinator for wsib) and in the far corner of it where 100 gold seats from the old Leaf's Gardens. The owner of them--Gretzky of course :smokin:

[Aquarist007]

---------btw the anenome is doing fine---just give it peace for a while longer--it was just having a hard time adjusting to your set up. could have been a huge salinity difference and you didn't acclimatize long enough. LFS stores in our area keep their salinity as low as .018--big difference from .026.
IMO time to invest in a qt tank---if not for a good practise to observe all new additions you can use it to acclimatize inverts and fish over a longer time to big variations in salinity.

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11415006#post11415006 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
---------btw the anenome is doing fine---just give it peace for a while longer--it was just having a hard time adjusting to your set up. could have been a huge salinity difference and you didn't acclimatize long enough. LFS stores in our area keep their salinity as low as .018--big difference from .026.
IMO time to invest in a qt tank---if not for a good practise to observe all new additions you can use it to acclimatize inverts and fish over a longer time to big variations in salinity.

Thanks the kids are getting a 20 GAL for x mas it is just going to be 2 clowns and some corals. I guess we could use that for a bit at a QT for new gritters. The LFS keeps their salinity at 1.024 or so they say anyhow and I acclimated the thing for 3 hours with a quarter cup of water transfer every 10 minutes for the first hour and a half.

On the Hockey topic that is cool about the seats from MLG figures Gretz would own them. The damn HABS lost to Florida tonight fricken team is going to cause me to lose what is left of my allready non existent hair LOL.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11415221#post11415221 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HABS#1
Thanks the kids are getting a 20 GAL for x mas it is just going to be 2 clowns and some corals. I guess we could use that for a bit at a QT for new gritters. The LFS keeps their salinity at 1.024 or so they say anyhow and I acclimated the thing for 3 hours with a quarter cup of water transfer every 10 minutes for the first hour and a half.

On the Hockey topic that is cool about the seats from MLG figures Gretz would own them. The damn HABS lost to Florida tonight fricken team is going to cause me to lose what is left of my allready non existent hair LOL.

so many people have been duped by what the LPS say there salinity is---always measure the salinity in the bag when you get home to be on the safe side--you will be amazed

[HABS#1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11417720#post11417720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
so many people have been duped by what the LPS say there salinity is---always measure the salinity in the bag when you get home to be on the safe side--you will be amazed

Will do thanks for the heads up.