The Reeflo Orca 200 skimmer

[reefrick.M]

I have a question on my Reeflo Skimmer I just recieved. The metric to british size bushing that came in the kit will not fit on any of the 3 pipes that came with the kit. Isn't this to allow me to go out into a 1.5" return pipe ? This bushing you see in the pic slides right thru all these pipes and no way was it meant for any of the 3 pipes you see next to the the wedge pipe.

Thanks Rick

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[JRaquatics]

That bushing is for the water feed if you choose to hard plumb it instead of the hose barb. I do not see the converter bushing required for the output in the photo.

[reefrick.M]

Thanks... Mike saw the post and called me, even on a Saturday...Great Service!!! Part being shipped Monday.

[siropa]

JR, how are you using the k-a-w to determine cleanings of pumps and stuff? do you take a watt reading when it is freshly cleaned and use that as a baseline? readings change as they get dirty? I guess I never knew they would change as stuff got dirty.

[JRaquatics]

For NW skimmer pumps it is an easy way to tell when there is less air draw from the venturi due to salt/calcium build up in the air way. You watts will increase as the wheel as an extra load (water) on the impeller. For Mesh wheel the watts will go up when the mesh gets displaced, stretched, or come loose. I always suggest anyone running a skimmer with a mesh wheel to have a killawatt on hand. Regular pumps like internal mags, eheims, etc start burning watts when calcium build up around the magnet and is a good indication for service. So bassically anything that is not running at their normal energy draw needs to be checked out or service. I have found by doing this has extended the life of my equipment.

[Doahh]

So.... Would a 200 be overkill for a total system gallonage of around 130 gallons?

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12994106#post12994106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Doahh
So.... Would a 200 be overkill for a total system gallonage of around 130 gallons?

Large for your system? yes. But not overkill. I always like a larger skimmer than my system can handle. This way I can stock it the way I like (to the max) and feed a ton of food. My fish are seriously obese.

[wizsmaster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12979423#post12979423 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CarlosS
JRaquatics:

Where could I get this kill-a-watt cheaper?

If you are looking for one same day, usually camping/RV stores will have them ...

[CarlosS]

wizsmaster:

Thanks, I just already bought it at ebay, $20 shipped.

[wizsmaster]

awesome. PM me a link if you don't mind.

thanks,

marco

[CarlosS]

pm sent!

[wizsmaster]

10-4
thank you.

[KJAhp098]

I'm having some trouble with my 200. It's about a month old now and I can't figure out how to dial it in between the venturi, the amount of flow going to it, and the wedge valve. I have a 225 gallon sps dominated tank with a medium bioload.
I have a 3/4" ball valve that regulates the flow, which is opened about half way. The first couple weeks I left the wedge valve fully open and after a few weeks I noticed a thick head of foam at the top of the neck. However, after a few weeks the head of the foam would get heavy and start to descend down the neck and never spill over.
Then I decided to close the wedge valve a bit, then nothing...then a little more, and still nothing...all the way almost fully closed. Then the it looked like there was so much turbulence at the bottom of the neck that it disrupted the head of the foam and then it went all the way to the bottom.
Then I decided to open the ball valve a little more while closing the wedge valve. Every time I would think the head of foam would spill over it would just stop at the top. Also, it seems like the venturi allows more air to enter at about the 10:00 position and not the 12:00 position like most people have said to put it. I didn't think I would have such a difficult time dialing this in. Can somebody please help me? Thank You...here is a picture.

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[CarlosS]

Ken:

I notice two things. One is the foam level is very low. You have to close the wedge pipe to get above.

And two, how often do you clean the collection cup?

Another good thing would be how much water is going through the skimmer, aprox?

[KJAhp098]

Thanks for the reply Carlos. If I try to raise the water lever, then I can never get a head of foam. The bubbles just keep popping inside. The cup is dirty because I just got back from a week long vacation, but I've cleaned it twice already. If I were to guess, I'd say 300 gph at Most. However, if i try to open the ball valve at all the bubble keep popping and never get a chance to form a thick foam.

[KJAhp098]

I see everybody talking about how much scfh is going through their skimmer so I'm wondering if there isn't enough air being pulled in to shoot the bubbles up and over the neck. I don't have a scfh measure though.

[CarlosS]

Ken:

How much time do you wait to expect a thick foam? 300 gph seems to be fine.

In my case, the foam level is very high, but when I make any adjust, the skimmer produces foam after some hours

[CarlosS]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13002666#post13002666 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KJAhp098
I see everybody talking about how much scfh is going through their skimmer so I'm wondering if there isn't enough air being pulled in to shoot the bubbles up and over the neck. I don't have a scfh measure though. .

Maybe meassuring pump power draw you could have an idea how is working your equipment.

[KJAhp098]

I don't think I have something I can measure that with. I wouldn't think that the power consumption would differ from others within the first month of use.
I should have said that Mike from RS put this together for me in a parking lot so I know it is set up correctly. He also told me where to make the cuts for the return.

[spongebobby]

The way I set mine was like this,

Feed about 300gph to the skimmer with the wedge wide open(the water level should be right where the transition starts). Turn the dart off,close the wedge pipe till the water level is just above the black collar of the neck. Turn the dart on and give it a few hrs. to build a foam head.

It's hard to tell but it looks like your tee may be above the transition a bit.

Also the pro kit from www.reefspecialty.com just about doubles the air draw on this skimmer without raising the watt draw. Stock these skimmers pull about 45scfh, with the pro kit it will get around 70-85scfh depending on your set-up.

HTH

[KJAhp098]

Thanks spongebobby. I have exactly 34 inches inside my stand and would prefer not to have the skimmer outside of it. The T is exactly at the transition although the picture may look like it's off.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13002441#post13002441 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KJAhp098
I'm having some trouble with my 200. It's about a month old now and I can't figure out how to dial it in between the venturi, the amount of flow going to it, and the wedge valve. I have a 225 gallon sps dominated tank with a medium bioload.
I have a 3/4" ball valve that regulates the flow, which is opened about half way. The first couple weeks I left the wedge valve fully open and after a few weeks I noticed a thick head of foam at the top of the neck. However, after a few weeks the head of the foam would get heavy and start to descend down the neck and never spill over.
Then I decided to close the wedge valve a bit, then nothing...then a little more, and still nothing...all the way almost fully closed. Then the it looked like there was so much turbulence at the bottom of the neck that it disrupted the head of the foam and then it went all the way to the bottom.
Then I decided to open the ball valve a little more while closing the wedge valve. Every time I would think the head of foam would spill over it would just stop at the top. Also, it seems like the venturi allows more air to enter at about the 10:00 position and not the 12:00 position like most people have said to put it. I didn't think I would have such a difficult time dialing this in. Can somebody please help me? Thank You...here is a picture.

<a href="http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/kjahp98/?action=view&current=DSC04854.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/kjahp98/DSC04854.jpg" border="0" alt="reeflo"></a>


Your set up looks fine. But have a few suggestions. From the pic your water level is way too low. So lets turn the skimmer off and figure out your wedge valve. Start with the valve completely open then start slowly closing it till you see the water level rise. When it starts to rise take a permenant marker and draw a small line on the tee and right above the on the wedge. This will be you starting point and give you an idea of when the wedge starts to close. Then turn the wedge till the water gets at its highest point and mark it (showing the valve full closed, and help you have an idea of where your at on the wedge). Now turn it back so that the water level is right at were the black coupler were the neck and the cup meet, this is were your going to want your water level and make it with an arrow, dots or whatever on both the tee and wedge.

These marking will help you when you want to add more feed and or decrease to get you back to the same point. Never turn the air valve on the venturi down. Better yet take a trip to the hardware store and pick up a barb fitting 3/8 pipe thread to 1/2 hose and use it instead of the valve (too restricting). Just make sure when your pump is off the air line is above the output tee.

[just dave]

Has anyone had any leakage problems with the fittings that use the silicone o-rings and locking bolts with jam nuts? These connections make me uncomfortable and I worry about the o-rings abilities to maintain a seal once they get some age on them especially on the pressure side of the pump.

[JRaquatics]

The seals work great and would not worry about them. They are also very efficient when it comes to taking the pump off for maintenance. Just make sure to use silicone lube on the o-rings.

[serpentman]

No issues at all with mine. Its only been up and running for about 6wks but you feel how tight they are when you assemble.

[AcroporAddict]

I got my big, bada$$, extra large, extra tall skimmer cup from Reef Specialty today. Big boy! I was going to wipe it down with vinegar and set it up. Where should I look to set the water level?

I have the needle wheel ordered as well, but I am on a wait list.
Thanks!
Dave

[JRaquatics]

I would start by running it so that the water/bubble break level is a little above the black flange and after a couple of weeks raise the level to your desired skimmate output.

[AcroporAddict]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13015823#post13015823 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
I would start by running it so that the water/bubble break level is a little above the black flange and after a couple of weeks raise the level to your desired skimmate output.

I assume we are talking about the black flange at the bottom of the neck, and not the flange created by the bottom of the skimmer cup?
Dave

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13022147#post13022147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AcroporAddict
I assume we are talking about the black flange at the bottom of the neck, and not the flange created by the bottom of the skimmer cup?
Dave

Yes. The part were the skimmer and the neck of the cup join together. Have any pics of it on the skimmer yet?

[P.Kelly]

I made a better adapter for the water intake. This will allow me to glue a true union ball valve on the intake without raising it the couple inches that the screwy adapter that comes with the skimmer would require.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z153/petes97/IMG_3359.jpg

I did it by taking a piece of 1 inch sch 80 and built a router jig that acts like a lathe to route the surface down a bit. I just adjusted the router depth until this one mic'd the same as the barb adapters that came with the skimmer.

[virginiadiver69]

How would I know if I'm putting to much water through my skimmer?

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13076011#post13076011 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
How would I know if I'm putting to much water through my skimmer?

I find it very hard to tell with the Reeflo skimmers. The only for sure way to tell there is too much feed is the water level will raise and lower in the skimmer body due to the output cant handle the flow and a slight back pressure occurs. I suggest 200-300 gallons for the reeflo 200 and a max feed of around 400gph.

[RobynT]

My husband is finishing all the plumbing and I'll soon have my 210 gallon plumbed and my Reeflo 200 running!!

I am wondering if anyone can tell me if my outlet pipe is at the correct height? Does it look correct the way it's assembled? Also, what do you do with the valve with the red handle on the bottom side?? Do you recommend wiping it out with vinegar before it's started? Any other words of wisdom are appreciated and Thanks!!

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k75/windhaven77/IMG_5342.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k75/windhaven77/IMG_5338.jpg

[bonez]

I also have my big **s cup for Mike at RS. Still waiting on the wheel. My question is should i install the cup to be breaking in? Will the standard wheel create enough bubbles to work with the large cup?

[wizsmaster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13080537#post13080537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bonez
I also have my big **s cup for Mike at RS. Still waiting on the wheel. My question is should i install the cup to be breaking in? Will the standard wheel create enough bubbles to work with the large cup?

I personally would throw the big cup on .. and yes, the big cup works just fine with the standard needlewheel ... it's the other way around, the custom needle wheel does NOT work with the standard cup. It will push too much air.

[spongebobby]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13080489#post13080489 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RobynT
My husband is finishing all the plumbing and I'll soon have my 210 gallon plumbed and my Reeflo 200 running!!

I am wondering if anyone can tell me if my outlet pipe is at the correct height? Does it look correct the way it's assembled? Also, what do you do with the valve with the red handle on the bottom side?? Do you recommend wiping it out with vinegar before it's started? Any other words of wisdom are appreciated and Thanks!!

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k75/windhaven77/IMG_5342.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k75/windhaven77/IMG_5338.jpg


It appears by the pics that your drain T is to high. The top of the T should be level with the body/transition line. With the wedge pipe wide open it will put the water level about in the middle of the Reeflo lettering. It looks high to me in the pics you have.

Also I recommend running the skimmer in a vinegar/water solution for a few hrs. to remove any manufacturing oils.
Also it takes about 3 weeks for this skimmer to break-in. PATIENCE....PATIENCE...PATIENCE... with this skimmer during break-in. Your going to want to start closing the wedge pipe but leave it wide open for atleast 7-10 days. If you need any help just post them up.

:D

[tangers]

I just got my Orca 200 Friday night. It has been set up since then and all I can say is wow! This is by far the best line of skimmers I have ever seen! One thing I absolutely love is the neck doesn't get clogged with skimmate like a lot of other skimmers. I think I will have to sell my tank soon due to an out of state move for work, but this skimmer will be staying with me!

[tangers]

Just figured I would post a couple of pics, like I said above skimmer has only been running for 2 days but you can see already it's starting to get broke in. Not even fully broke in and already pulling some nasty stuff!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0185.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0186.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0187.jpg
About 2-3" deep
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0188.jpg

[wizsmaster]

looks like it's doing what its supposed to!

[RobynT]

Thanks for the information Spongebobby! I am pleased and proud both to be a member of the 200 club!

I too have to give a big hand to Mike from Reef Specialty for all of his help with my skimmer and new system. His reputation for "being there" for his customers is the reason why I ordered all of my new equipment from him and we have been most pleased . A perfect example...... I didn't want to bother him with yet another phone call on a Sunday afternoon so I posted my question on here. Low and behold, I got a phone call to answer my question. That, dear people, is service.

I also have to thank JRaquatics for allowing me to admire and copy his system in so many ways. Now if I can just get my hands on one of those tangs.........just kidding:rollface:

[serpentman]

Looking good! I still would be a bit careful not to tune it too much until you know its completely broken in. Once it does, it goes from 0 to 60 before you know it and will dump massive amounts of water.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13082497#post13082497 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tangers
Just figured I would post a couple of pics, like I said above skimmer has only been running for 2 days but you can see already it's starting to get broke in. Not even fully broke in and already pulling some nasty stuff!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0185.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0186.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0187.jpg
About 2-3" deep
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0188.jpg

Looking good just remember take it slow because when it decides to break in "it breaks in". What is going on with the feed to the skimmer?

[tangers]

The feed to the skimmer is a mag 7. The pump has a 1/2" output so I had to increase that right before the input on the skimmer. Just checked this morning and it pulled another 2-3" in that 5 gallon bucket over night. This thing rips!

[tangers]

By the way thanks for the heads up on the "break in" I will make sure and keep an eye on it. I have the day off today, but maybe tomarrow I will bring it back a little when I go to work "just in case".

[tangers]

Here are some pics from this afternoon.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0198.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0199.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0197.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0200.jpg

[tangers]

I stuck the ruler in the skimmate to measure the depth so far.

[wizsmaster]

pretty nasty

[JRaquatics]

That is what the skimmer looks like when it skims wet. It looks like someone blew up a turd inside you skimmer cup. What were you running on the tank prior to the reeflo?

[tangers]

I was running an Aqua C EV400 hybrid. 160 gallon tank medium bio load.

[CarlosS]

JRaquatics:

I just received my Kill-a-watt. I connected to my skimmer pump and the power draw was 98 watts with air intake wide open. When I close it the power draw rises to 195 watts.

What could you tell me about power draw-air intake relation. In my case of course. How much air do you think is pulling my skimmer? Remember that my skimmer has stock NW impeller and standard collection cup.

Another thing is that the simmer pump started to make a weird sound, like a bearing damage. Is there any way to make service to the motor inside? Maybe lubricating the bearings?

I will appreciate your comments, thanks in advance...

[JRaquatics]

I think the increasing noise to these AO Smith motors are inevitable. I think you can call Reeflo/sequence and get a motor upgrade. When you decrease the amount of air the pump work harder by pushing more water and in return you are making the jump. Where you live and by the watts your drawing you are pulling anywhere from 40-50scfh. I have found that is just about right for this skimmer stock.

[CarlosS]

Jraquatics

Thanks a lot.

Could I get the new motor without change the pump volute?

[JRaquatics]

I am not sure. I would call sequence and ask what to do. If you could be so kind as let me know what they say as I would like to get mine swapped out also. The Baldors are so nice.

[CarlosS]

JRaquatics:

Let me talk to them. I will post any new...

[luan67]

I just want to say that I pulled the trigger and finally bought the reeflo orca 200. This is all due to this thread, my wife, and talking to Mike at RS. I hope that it is going to give me the result as advertised.

I have a 240G softies tank with and a medium bio load. For years, I have been trying to skimp on the skimmer by either getting skimmers that are not rated for my tank or getting cheap used skimmers that do not do anything except creating bubbles. My fish were thriving by my softies never came out like what I see on other people tanks. I came into a conclusion that I probably need a real skimmer this time and not trying to get another "cheap" skimmer.

Well, my wife agreed and I called Mike. His patience and knowledge were 1st class and he convinced me to get the Reeflo instead of the Octopus Extreme 300 because 1) I'm not a tinkerer 2) My setup doesn't allow me to have an internal skimmer.

Sorry for the log post. Although it was a hefty chunk of money for me, I'm really excited to get a top of the line skimmer and see how it will affect my tank.

[CarlosS]

luan67

Wise words........

[JRaquatics]

Congrats Luan67. IMO it is a great skimmer. I was looking at the Octo extreme 160 and then the reeflo 200 pro and started to laugh as the octo is like a little toy in comparison. The Reeflos are no joke when it comes to raw skimming power. A side warning get ready to clean some nasty scum out of your 200 cup.

[siropa]

These skimmers should come with a biohazard sticker. That is some nasty stuff it pulls. I collect mine in a 5g pail and I swear by the time it is 1/2 full it is toxic waste. :D

[bubbletip2]

I also recently purchased a Reeflo Orca 200 from Mike at Reef Specialty. Living locally to RS, Mike actually put the skimmer together for me. Thanks Mike! Now it is time to get this skimmer primed for the tank. I will not have an opportunity to plumb this for a couple weeks but will be running it with some tank water until then. I am really excited to see this skimmer perform. I have also always skimped on skimmers and am glad to have a reliable skimmer especially with the Baldor motor.

I read through this entire thread the other day and have to say there is a lot of good information on here. Thanks guys!

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13099354#post13099354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bubbletip2
I also recently purchased a Reeflo Orca 200 from Mike at Reef Specialty. Living locally to RS, Mike actually put the skimmer together for me. Thanks Mike! Now it is time to get this skimmer primed for the tank. I will not have an opportunity to plumb this for a couple weeks but will be running it with some tank water until then. I am really excited to see this skimmer perform. I have also always skimped on skimmers and am glad to have a reliable skimmer especially with the Baldor motor.

I read through this entire thread the other day and have to say there is a lot of good information on here. Thanks guys!

The offer is still on the table. Your pump for mine.:D
Until that thing is hooked up you need to stock up on fish food, since you can really start gut loading those fish of yours.:lol:
Did you get the RS collection container?

[luan67]

Thanks everyone. I just got a tracking confirmation from Mike and it is coming tomorrow!

Again, I just want to give more props to Mike. I have never encountered someone, who after the sale was already made, told me to call him back when I'm ready for the setup. He wanted to make sure that he can help set it up optimally.

I'm sure I will have some questions in the near future but know that you all are there to help.

[bubbletip2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13099502#post13099502 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
The offer is still on the table. Your pump for mine.:D
Until that thing is hooked up you need to stock up on fish food, since you can really start gut loading those fish of yours.:lol:
Did you get the RS collection container?

no I did not get the collection container but would like to get one eventually. I really need a calcium reactor. That was supposed to come first, but the Orca 200 was screaming my name...

Fish food order happening today...

[JRaquatics]

I wouldn't put the skimmer on your tank until you get the collection container. It saves lives. It saved mine again Monday night.

[bubbletip2]

For those that don't have a collection container what do you do? Are you talking about when the skimmer actually breaks in Jeremy?

[JRaquatics]

Yup. The 200 test wheel decided to break in early Sunday morning. I woke up to see my skimmer wasn't and noticed the collection container is full. You can get the switch and make your own container too.

[serpentman]

How much skimmate is everyone pulling on average.

I suspect I may have mine tuned incorrectly. It takes about ~10 days for my PM waste container to fill. However, if I raise the level, I end up skimming too wet and it fills in a day.

I intend to upgrade to the new NW and cup when funds allow. In the meantime, I want to maximize its performance.

[CarlosS]

serpentman:

My skimmer fills 2 liters, 1/2 galon in a week.

[JRaquatics]

I get an average of 2 quarts a week. I skim dry though.

[siropa]

I get about 2.5 gal in 10 days.

[serpentman]

Thanks guys. I think I will do some fine tuning.

I have another question. We recently moved into a newly constructed home. Consequently, its sealed pretty tight so when my A/C is running, my pH plummets by .4. I was thinking of running the intake of my 200 outside to bring in fresh air.


However, my concern is its a pretty decent distance to run a feedline. I was thinking of running a larger diameter tube to allow better flow. However, I don't want to starve the skimmer of air. Has anyone had experience doing this with a reeflo?

[drstupid]

jeremy is constantly tinkering with his skimmer, something is always breaking in for him.

i don't think you need to worry about overflow once you've let it break in.

serpentman: you could run a larger diameter tube/pipe for the air intake and reduce the drag you're getting from the length of the run.

there may be a better way to pull this off, they sell fans for greenhouses that do fast air exchanges (squirrel cages i think they call them) from the inside to the outside, maybe putting one of those in your basement (or fish room) on a timer may do the job for you.

[serpentman]

Down the road when I fully enclose my basement fishroom, I will install an air exchanger to remove humidity which should also remedy the pH situation. In the meantime, I am hoping to find a cheap band-aid.

However, in this hobby, cheap isn't a word I use a alot. Unfortunately, a one way fan won't work in the winter which I anticipate will also be an issue.

I will try to run larger piping and to a small window in the glass block and see if that helps. I will report the resulting effects on the air draw.

[bubbletip2]

I took some pics of my new Reeflo Orca 200 last night. I am about to glue this baby and get it primed. Should have this plumbed next weekend. Most everyone will probably see these pics again soon as they will be exclusively used on Reef Specialty's new site soon to be launched.

I figured others that have not seen one, might want to get a close look at what these Reeflo Orca's look like. Enjoy!

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x278/jmemije11/IMG_7587.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x278/jmemije11/IMG_7594.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x278/jmemije11/IMG_7589.jpg

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http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x278/jmemije11/IMG_7591.jpg

[P.Kelly]

Nice pictures

[tangers]

Looks good! Your're gonna love it!

[siropa]

bubbletip2, those are like promo quality pics of the thing. awesome.

[AcroporAddict]

Here is a pic of my Orca 200 with the big a$$ collection cup. I am waiting on my needle wheel. Mike says there is a bit of final tweaking to be done, so whenever.

I built a stand for it the same dimensions as the skimmer base, about 14.5" x 9". My collection container sits below it. It is made of 2" x 2" wood for the legs and plywood for the top and bottom. l painted it with spray lacquer.
Dave

[JRaquatics]

Awesome pics Jim.

[AcroporAddict]

The IMG code didn't work. Let me try that pic again. That's better!

http://www.discusdave.com/images/Orca200a2.JPG

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13111879#post13111879 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AcroporAddict
The IMG code didn't work. Let me try that pic again. That's better!

http://www.discusdave.com/images/Orca200a2.JPG

That looks really good. Where do you have your water level at? how are you feeding the skimmer and how much? It is good to see some pics finally showing up on this thread.

[AcroporAddict]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13111921#post13111921 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
That looks really good. Where do you have your water level at? how are you feeding the skimmer and how much? It is good to see some pics finally showing up on this thread.

I had the water level about 3/4 the way up the neck. I initially tried to feed it from the return pump, but wasn't getting enough flow thru the skimmer, so I now feed with a Mag 5 full open.
Dave

[CarlosS]

really nice pic's

[bubbletip2]

Thanks Guys! I am glad you enjoyed them.;) One more week before this one is online.

[luan67]

I got mine yesterday and put it together right away. You definitely see the difference in quality! I have it in freshwater and vinegar right now and I cannot believe the bubbles/foam it is creating. I cannot wait to hook it up into my system after I get back from my vacation.

[reefrick.M]

I've had mine now for about 3 weeks, so far very pleased with it. I run a Mag 5 wide open to it, skims like crazy!!!Only one incident with it, luckily it's in my basement.I took the air hose off and removed the ball valve to see if the venturi was staying clean. Everything looked clean, no build up, put back together. Now I have the skimmer pump on a digital timer so it shuts off for a couple of hours(feed pump stays on) just before lights go out. I dose my additives and add a cube of my home made papone. So when the pump shuts off the water will back up into the air hose to the height of the water level in the skimmer. Well apparently I didn't put the air hose back onto the nipple very well and the hose came off. This of coarse drained out the skimmer and luckily the water spilled onto the power strip and tripped the GFI and shut down the feed pump. I caught this right after it happened as I went downstairs to mix in my additives. If the Mag 5 hadn't tripped I would have had a lot more water on the floor.Something for others to think about.

[luan67]

Just got back from my vacation and the first thing I did was hooked the skimmer up right away. I must say that the foam is impressive but so far, after 12 hours, no gunk is being pulled out.

I have everything wide open as per RS Mike's instructions and the water level is at the top of the cylinder (right before it concave). Is this correct? What I do not know is how much water I'm pumping in. Is less better than more? I have heard that we want 400-1200GPH.

I guess I need to be patience and wait for it to break in huh?

[JRaquatics]

Be Patient. You want the skimmer to break in before adjusting. Your water level is fine. The reeflo 200 should be fed around 300-400gph.

[drstupid]

the general experience on this thread is that three weeks is the expected break in time. you should leave the wedge valve wide open until then, and consider using a float switch to shut off the orca if your skimmate bucket fills.

some folks have tried to accelerate said break in time by soaking the impeller in skimmate, adding skimmate from another skimmer to the reeflo, etc. i'd ask for jeremy's advice on accelerated break ins, he seems to be modifying something in his skimmer every week or so, he's definitely got the most first hand experience.

[drstupid]

you're fast, jeremy. i've been writing software for 25 years and can type like a thousand words a minute and you still beat me to it.

[luan67]

I'm a believer! After reading this thread again and dialed in the flow and level right, I'm getting some real dark skimmate which i have never gotten before. it is like the "black oil" from the x-files.

hopefully getting a real skimmer will make my corals are happy again.

"i want to believe!" True!

[serpentman]

I am thinking about adding onto my system which will bump my total system volume to ~350gal. So far I am impressed with the performance of the 200 on my 275g system.

However, do you guys still think the 200 will handle the extra volume?

[tangers]

I think it will and if for some reason it doesn't if you upgrade the cup and/or impellar it definately will!

[moondoggy4]

Are there two types of pumps for this skimmer AOSmith and the Baldor Gold which is better or are they pretty much the same Thanks in advance

[AcroporAddict]

I would definitely recommend buying the Reef Specialty overflow container with float valve. I just used my existing overflow container without a float valve, and had two floods: one was minor, but the second was pretty major: about 10 gallons of water I am guessing. No harm to the reef, and my basement floors dried, but I got one of the CV float valves after that and installed it on my overflow container with the feed and recirc. pumps hooked into it. The CV float valve comes with a two receptacle (up to 200 wats) plug that can handle the Dart pump and a Mag 5 feed pump.

[Landon B.]

I joined the club this week. My new 200 will be here tomorrow! :)
This thread is great!

[Sebea]

Hi,
I bought a 200 for my 156g reef. I have had it for a few months. I have to say, I bought it because of the success people have been having with it on this thread but mine is just really frustrating me at this point. At first, I was never sent the gaskets for the unions on the skimmer, which caused it to leak like crazy. I had to silicon the crap out of it.
I was wondering if I could get some advice on how the dial it in correctly. Right now, in a weeks time I only get about 1/4 of a gatorade bottle full of skimmate. Very frustrating. Because the skimmer is in my stand, I cant adjust the wedge valve at all, so it is set all the way open. Can I put a gate valve on the output to adjust the water level??
Second question. I get ALOT of foam in the collection cup but barely any skimmate in the drain. What does this mean? It just foams up, and I dont get any dark liquid skimmate. Because i cant adjust the water level, I am forced to raise the water flow in the skimmer to raise the water level in the neck. This is probably my main issue?

Sorry for the long post. Im really frustrated and about to send it back and would appreciate any help at all. Thanks


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2611550635_c174af6cf6_b.jpg

[spongebobby]

By your pic I see your airvalve is at about 4 o'clock. Needs to be between 10-12. Just use lots of teflon tape on the venturi to get it at that point. You definately will need to find a way to gain access to the wedge pipe to close it to get the level of bubbles up inside cup.

Can't tell by your pic but most people have there T's on the drain about level with the body to neck transition. With the skimmer turned off the water level should be about the center of the Reeflo lettering on the body. Your feed pump needs to supply about 300-400 gph. These tips should get you in the ballpark.

Good luck

[Lunchbucket]

I don't own one but looks like you have a nice frothy head of skimmate in the riser. Need to close the wedge to get the water up higher (were sponge suggested) so you can push it up and over in to the cup

Lunchbucket

[jwilliams860]

hey sebea, why cant you adjust the wedge pipe? because its out of reach or did you glue it also? if you only used silicone i would try and remove the silicone and find gaskets that fit your wedge and unions, that way if you ever need to service it in the future you can with some ease, and id definately get the venturi as upright as possible, using the teflon tape trick. your tee for your output looks about right from what i can see in the pic, you might check lowes or home depot in your area, and see if the regular sch 40 unions they sale, if the gaskets out of them will fit your metric unions that came with it.

[Sebea]

Thanks for the replies.

I dont know if this is how everyones skimmer is but i cant physically turn the venturi farther to make the airvalve at 10-12. And if I loosen it to go the other way it will start leaking. Just put even more teflon/silicon and loosen the venturi so the hole for the airvalve is facing up?

I cant adjust the wedge valve because the drain pipe was leaking so I siliconed it. Would it be possible to just put a gate valve on the output to adjust the water level?

Thanks

[spongebobby]

Put more teflon tape on the venturi and it won't spin in as far.I would remove all the teflon tape and just about use a whole role of new and it should stop where you need it.

I guess a gate valve would work on the drain but would rather have the wedge pipe function if at all possible.

[Sebea]

Ok I managed to fix the wedge valve issue so now I lowered the flow greatly and is around what you suggested, and raised the water level to just below the flange on the neck. Let it run for a few hours, and the seal where the collection cup connects to the body is leaking. Im beginning to think that I just have a defective model? Everything is leaking. I have just about siliconed every seal on the skimmer. Also, it has been adjusted for more than a day, and im still just getting alot of bubbles up in the collection cup and NO skimmate. :(

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13277011#post13277011 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sebea
Ok I managed to fix the wedge valve issue so now I lowered the flow greatly and is around what you suggested, and raised the water level to just below the flange on the neck. Let it run for a few hours, and the seal where the collection cup connects to the body is leaking. Im beginning to think that I just have a defective model? Everything is leaking. I have just about siliconed every seal on the skimmer. Also, it has been adjusted for more than a day, and im still just getting alot of bubbles up in the collection cup and NO skimmate. :(

1. Don't get hung up on pulling skimmate out within the first 30 days of running. Rushing things will only lead to an overflow.

2. Are you using silicone grease or silicone sealant? Your seals should not be leaking at all and have not seen a reeflo skimmer leak from the oring seals.

3. Make sure your venturi is between 10 and 2. This will usually require a full roll of teflon tape.

4. Feed the skimmer between 200-300gph. Make sure to vent the air prior to entering the skimmer and drain the remainder of the water into the sump if you are plumbing off of one of your overflows.

5. Make sure the top of your output tee is at or below the top of the Reeflo lettering found on the body.

6. Don't have the output submerged to deep. If you do add another vent before submersion.

7. Once broken in (3-4weeks) then start dialing it in.

8. If all else fails call the place of purchase as there may be something wrong with your skimmer.

What pump is on your skimmer? If it is a OA Smith and the skimmer is new then I would return it. They are now sold with the Baldor motor and some companies still have them with the baldor Gold.

Hope this helps.

[P.Kelly]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13277103#post13277103 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
4. Feed the skimmer between 200-300gph. Make sure to vent the air prior to entering the skimmer and drain the remainder of the water into the sump if you are plumbing off of one of your overflows.


Please explain how you would "vent" the piping heading into the skimmer, coming out of a drain without creating a huge potential for a mess. Mine is Tee'd to the inlet and the sump, to allow me to dial in the correct flow for the skimmer.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13277261#post13277261 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by petes97
Please explain how you would "vent" the piping heading into the skimmer, coming out of a drain without creating a huge potential for a mess. Mine is Tee'd to the inlet and the sump, to allow me to dial in the correct flow for the skimmer.

The only way you can vent prior to a control valve to feed the skimmer is to tee with a large extension pipe with a vent cap prior to the valve. The vent cap is most commonly used for island sinks to vent the drain pipe. This is the only way I can think of to do this. If your air entering the the skimmer is minimal and does not cause any disturbance of pump cavitation I wouldn't worry about it.

How's yours running Pete?

[reefrick.M]

I used silicone grease on my cup seal and yes it leaks! The o ring is way over sized, it wouldn't even stay on without grease to hold it. I have salt creep all around the base from it leaking there.

[JRaquatics]

Have you contacted the place you purchased the skimmer from? Is the o ring a white/clear silicone one? You have it seated in the inner ridge (black) of the base and not the cup itself?

Just trying to narrow down your problems.

[reefrick.M]

I talked to Mike about the o ring shortly after purchase. Answer... stick it in place with grease. It's just to big to seal properly, It's in the right spot, were only talking the weight of the cup here to make the seal tight.

[JRaquatics]

The weight of the cup is not what seals it. You may have it in the wrong place. It does not go on the cup itself it goes inside a groove on the body of the skimmer itself.

[moondoggy4]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13219939#post13219939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by moondoggy4
Are there two types of pumps for this skimmer AOSmith and the Baldor Gold which is better or are they pretty much the same Thanks in advance .. Any help would be appreceiated

[IMSRacing]

My 200 will waiting my arrival when i get home from work today!!!!

[GSMguy]

moondoggy the Baldor is the better motor.

[IMSRacing]

I just opened the box and have one question, should i be able to spin the needle wheel by hand freely installed in the motor. I stick my fingers in and spin the wheel and it stops as soon as i stop. It has quite a bit of resistance also.

[jwilliams860]

i think you should be able to move it, but it shouldnt freely spin a whole bunch, the shaft runs through the back to the fan to if im not mistaken, plus its brand new so it will need to break in some id think.but at the rate it turns water over i wouldnt think youd want it very loose in there.

[IMSRacing]

Well after a vinegar bath for a couple hours and a while of rearranging and re plumbing i have things where they should be. It is a little bit temporary with some plumbing because i am waiting on my temp controller for my bigger chiller, but it is up and running. I can't wait till this baby is broke in. I temporarily hooked my octopus skimmer up while the reeflo is breaking in. Here are some pics. Don't mind the wiring mess, my RK2 is being fixed right now so cords and timers are going everywhere.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2826453078_5a97f56151.jpg

Vinegar bath-1 cup vinegar
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2825622515_41cc6dde7a.jpg

Skimmer in place
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2826204281_b7670e4dcf.jpg

Overskimming????...lol
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2826210295_dc717e06e7.jpg

My first mod, the logo was on the back the way i placed the skimmer, so i made my own custom one.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2826210295_dc717e06e7.jpg

Here is the heavily stocked 125 it is going on. This is a 6 month old pic, the sandbed is all cleared off now of the frags.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/2512250283_de2263f509.jpg

[IMSRacing]

I linked the wrong custom logo pic so here is the right one.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2826212097_a802812489.jpg


AND




We are on our way to break-in!!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2835408410_7e1288cb06.jpg

[Lunchbucket]

I was wondering why the pic was wrong.

Lunchbucket

[IMSRacing]

I just got my kill-a-watt meter and my pump is at 118 watts right now, will this go down as the skimmer breaks in or is there something causing it to be high?

[JRaquatics]

188 watts is not normal at all. Do you have your air gauged down? Check to make sure there is no teflon tape blocking the air on the air valve. Either your venturi is clogged of something is wrong with the pump. I would remove the pump and plug it in with the volute off. If should read anywhere between 70-80 watts dry. Is there any abnormal sounds coming from the pump?

[IMSRacing]

118, sorry typo.

[JRaquatics]

I believe 118 is a tad high but nothing to be concerned about. The Baldor Dart motor seems to be a little higher on the watts than the AO Smith Dart. It should go down a little as it break in. If you remove the silencer cap you will loose 2 to 8 watts. If you replace the air valve with a straight barb fitting you will loose about another 5. The last Reeflo 200 skimmer I helped hook up I forgot the killawatt but it did pull a lot more air than the reeflo with the Ao Smith dart, He was pulling 50 scfh.

[IMSRacing]

I am pulling right around 45. Do you have any responses to my tight impeller post. I loosened it a bit to where it would spin freely a revolution or two when spun. I read reef specialties writeup on changing to their needle wheel and it said when installing the new wheel make sure it spins freely a dozen or so times when spun. Added resistance on the shaft would cause a watt increase correct?

[JRaquatics]

The impeller really doesn't spin too freely due to the fan being attached to the other end adding resistance on the shaft. You Pin WHeel should be on fine as it likely just tightened back to were it was originally one you started the skimmer. You just don't want the impeller buried. When it is buried you will see abnormal wattage and notice a loud sound coming from the skimmers volute. You will notice as the skimmer breaks in the watts will decrease and the air increases. Patience is a virtue with these skimmers.

[AcroporAddict]

I have the Reef Specialty impeller on order, and last I talked to Mike (3 weeks ago), he was tweaking it. Anyone got current info on when they will be ready to ship? I didn't want to bother him with this if someone here already knows. Thanks.
Dave

[JRaquatics]

I haven't received one to try out yet. Last time I asked he said I should be getting one soon. I know he is really trying to find the perfect sweet spot to get optimal performance out of the 200 wheel.

[AcroporAddict]

I have the large collection cup...just waiting on the impeller.
Dave

[JRaquatics]

How is it running with the Large cup and stock wheel? Any pics?

[tangers]

starting to break in real nice now, so I figured I would snap some pics yesterday and today.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0327.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0324.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/jamesherold/100_0330.jpg

[zensaiyan]

hi everyone. i just got my skimmer put together. my orca gold pump seems to make a whistling noise. i am guessing that it is the fan on the pump. it goes through periods of higher and lower pitch. does anyone know what this problem is/has anyone experienced this? i am guessing that i just need to grease the fan a little bit, but i don't want to do anything without knowing the proper solution.

[JRaquatics]

You shouldn't need to touch the fan. I doubt it has anything to do with the fan. Are you sure that is were the sound is coming from? If you think there is something wrong with the pump I would call the place of purchase or get in touch with Chris at Reeflo before doing anything.

[zensaiyan]

yeah, i plan on calling them tomorrow. i was just seeing if this was a problem other people have experienced.

upon further investigation, the noise is loudest at the center of the pump. it seems to be coming from where the motor of the pump connects to the impeller.

[royvoss]

see if the slinger washer is rubbing on the pump housing or on the motor frame.

[JRaquatics]

There hasn't been much activity on this thread so I thought I would post a couple of pics.

Here is an updated shot of the head of foam from the Reeflo 200 pro a half an hour after being cleaned.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/DSCN3343.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/DSCN3342.jpg

[Rueg]

So, do you think the money for the 'pro' kit is worth it? What all are you considering to be part of the 'pro' kit - the taller collection cup and the updated needle wheel? Have you noticed that much of a difference?

Thanks.

[in_flight]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13407760#post13407760 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
There hasn't been much activity on this thread so I thought I would post a couple of pics.

Here is an updated shot of the head of foam from the Reeflo 200 pro a half an hour after being cleaned.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/DSCN3343.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/DSCN3342.jpg

man that's very dry skimmate!

[Lunchbucket]

JRaquatics - That is a beautiful thing man!

Lunchbucket

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13410572#post13410572 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rueg
So, do you think the money for the 'pro' kit is worth it? What all are you considering to be part of the 'pro' kit - the taller collection cup and the updated needle wheel? Have you noticed that much of a difference?

Thanks.

It is worth it if you need the extra performance. I consider the Pro kit the Upgrade wheel and cup. The cup alone adds extra performance and easier to control and separates any of the turbulence in the body away from the neck. I have noticed a big difference in performance. The skimmer no longer splatters the chunks of skimmate all over the cup since the skimmer is less like a crap cannon and gives the head of foam a smooth transition into the cup. The skimmer also recovers faster after my hands been in the tank and don't really notice a stop in performance when I feed.

Head of foam before upgrade
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/117cupcloseup.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/tangpoop.jpg

Pro kit
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/DSCN3136.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/DSCN3137.jpg

[wampuscat]

Well it's official, I am a member of the Reeflo club. I ordered the Reeflo 200 pro kit from Mike at Reef Specialty today. Will be at my door sometime Saturday.

Thanks for all your help Jeremy.

[Skipper]

I just received mine this evening and have been doing a preliminary assembly (the wife won't let me keep it on the kitchen counter!) :p :

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/1005MVC-721S.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/1005MVC-724S.jpg

Can't wait to get it all hooked up and running. That'll likely happen this coming weekend. :D

[BreadmanMike]

What were you running before Skip? What size system is this going on? I don't think I've ever seen your setup. :)

[Skipper]

Here's my system in its prime (7 years ago):

http://www.reefcentral.com/totm/2001-08/index.php

http://www.reefcentral.com/totm/2001-08/fullview10.jpg

I was using a custom skimmer from Geo. I have two tanks that are tied together with a common sump - a 60-gallon cube and the 118-gallon in the link. I've moved into a new house since I did the article, and I was so busy working on Reefkeeping Magazine that my tanks suffered. They're on a come back now, though, and they are not nearly as nice now as they were when the photo was taken. :D Of course, I'm partial to soft corals.

I got the skimmer from Mike at Reef Specialty, and he's spent a bunch of time on the phone with me this evening, helping me getting it put together properly. The skimmer will be installed remotely in a closet that's about 20' away from the main tank's sump.

[siropa]

I forgot if this was covered back in the thread somewhere, but can't bear to reread all 36 pages...

I keep getting skimmate out the top holes because the drain hole is plugging up a little bit. has anyone added a 2nd hole or anything to get around this issue?

[CarlosS]

Siropa:

Mine has 4 holes in the lid. 1/8" aprox each one.

[siropa]

mine too. that is where the skimmate comes out of when the output on the bottom of the cup starts to get a little encrusted.

[customcolor]

bill... if you can make a bigger hole for a bigger drain line, bigger will last longer befor pluging up. or you could run it wetter?

[siropa]

can't see how to make the existing bigger because it has an acrylic piece attached. I think a 2nd hole would be easier.

i'm really happy with the output and changing it to run wetter isn't my first choice.

[customcolor]

that sucks. it wouldnt be worth cutting off the attached piece with a dremal then make bigger, or would it? just ideas

[siropa]

not sure I trust myself to do that.

[JR719]

My Orca 250 arrived! Couple questions though..... Here are two pics, if someone could please tell me the correct position of the "T". Also, in the pump box, there was a section of pipe threaded on one end and ground down to a smaller diameter on the other. There is a venturi on the inside and a hole approx. 7/16" just beyond the threads into the pipe. What is it for? The instructions are very lacking.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/JR719/skim2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/JR719/skim1.jpg

[cagri]

the first picture is the correct position of the T, you want the shortest pipe attached to the base of the skimmer.

[JR719]

Thank You, I appreciate the help.

[Rueg]

Anybody know why Reef Specialty stopped selling the modified impeller?

[royvoss]

the 200 impeller is not done yet. mike at reef specilty told me that the impeller pulls to much air for the skimmer to handle. he is still working on the design. i believe the 250 impeller is available, not sure have not look into that one.

[JRaquatics]

Welcome to the club Skipper and JR 719.

[Skipper]

She's up and running! Testing it in the garage now for water leaks with sterile salt water.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/1005MVC-735S.JPG

[Skipper]

Question on the air valve: when wide open the motor seems to produce a hum. When adjusting it to the 10-11 o'clock position, the hum goes away, but there is more turbulence inside the skimmer. Is the wide open position the way to go?

[CarlosS]

Hi Skipper:

I think air valve should be wide open, but you could check it outside or taken it apart. Look into the vale when is completely open and check it inside.

[CarlosS]

Guys:

Doing some maintenance, I could notice something. Skimmer is running at 100 watts of power draw and the flow throught it is about 237 GPH. I have noticed a foam production decrease.

What do you think?

[Tony Romano]

Mine is drawing 160w, what do I need to do to clean? The impeller and housing?

[Rueg]

Is the air valve all the way open? If it is then you need to take the air valve off and clean things out. You do not need to turn the skimmer off to do this. Just disconnect the tubing the air is drawn threw and unscrew the air valve. As long as the skimmer is running water will not come out of the hole that the air valve screws into. Check the hole that the air valve screws into and the air valve itself. One of them is plugged up with salt creep.

[Tony Romano]

Is there a smaller hole inside the housing or is it just a seemingly solid bottom?

[Tony Romano]

This is interesting, my Kill A Watt reads 34w with no load.

[virginiadiver69]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13277103#post13277103 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics

What pump is on your skimmer? If it is a OA Smith and the skimmer is new then I would return it. They are now sold with the Baldor motor and some companies still have them with the baldor Gold.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13281698#post13281698 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
moondoggy the Baldor is the better motor.

What exactly is the differences between the AO Smith and Baldor motors? Are these differences worthy of upgrading from my current AO Smith motor?

[Rueg]

One has a 3 year warranty and one has a 5 year warranty. No, not worthy of the upgrade - in my opinion. Unless you don't have to pay for the upgrade.

[Tony Romano]

anyone?

This is interesting, my Kill A Watt reads 34w with no load.

[Rueg]

What exactly do you mean by 'no load'?

[Tony Romano]

Nothing plugged in to outlet, I assume it should read zero.

[Rueg]

Yes - if you don't have anything plugged into the kill a watt then it should read zero watts being consumed. If you have the kill a watt plugged into a surge suppressor strip and nothing plugged into the strip - then that might be it. Even with nothing plugged into the power strip if it has good surge suppression then it uses some power for that.

[virginiadiver69]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13711232#post13711232 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rueg
One has a 3 year warranty and one has a 5 year warranty.
Is that it?
Any better performance, quieter more efficient?
If I were to upgrade I could use the current one as a return pump couldn't I? I would of course get rid of the needle wheel.

[Skipper]

Finally got mine all plumbed into the system. I'll post some pics tomorrow evening.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13713544#post13713544 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
Is that it?
Any better performance, quieter more efficient?
If I were to upgrade I could use the current one as a return pump couldn't I? I would of course get rid of the needle wheel.

Night and day difference IMO. The Baldor is a superior motor compared to the AO Smith. I notice that the Baldors run cool, way more quiet (can hardly here it) and run at a higher RPM at a slightly lower wattage than the AO Smith version. Swapping out the AO Smith Dart on my reeflo is the next large upgrade I plan to do with my setup.

[virginiadiver69]

Does all of that translate into better skimmer performance?

What changes would I need to make to use the AO Smith as a return/closed loop pump?

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13719223#post13719223 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
Does all of that translate into better skimmer performance?

What changes would I need to make to use the AO Smith as a return/closed loop pump?

Better skimmer performance?, not really, at least not really noticeable. What you will notice is zero to no noise and a cooler more reliable running pump. I am going to get one for my 200 just to cut down on the noise the AO Smith motor produces and will also keep my cabinet cooler. But I not getting it to increase performance because IMO upgrading the pump for that reason is worthless on the 200 body.

[drstupid]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13713544#post13713544 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
Is that it?
Any better performance, quieter more efficient?
If I were to upgrade I could use the current one as a return pump couldn't I? I would of course get rid of the needle wheel.

that pump is flow rated not pressure rated, it can't handle a lot of head pressure, so i guess that depends on where your sump is relative to the tank. i get the feeling if it's close enough to handle the head pressure you're going to have way too much flow for a return pump. wrong tool for the job.

they make great closed loop pumps.

[virginiadiver69]

Cool, thanks guys. I was starting to have a little buyers remorse but unless we're talking about a performance issue...I'll stick with what I have.

[serpentman]

JR, loaded question but if you had to quantify the difference between the stock neck / needlewheel versus the Pro kit, where would you put the gallon rating difference. I know its purely subjective, just wanted to get your thoughts.

[JRaquatics]

The Pro kit does take the performance of the Reeflo 200 to new heights. It is hard to say exactly what exactly the pro kit can handle as compared to the stock 200. But if I had to guess I would say that the Pro kit adds 100 to 150 more gallons tank rating. That is saying that a stock 200 safely handles tanks up to 300 gallons. So I figure the Reeflo 200 pro can safely handle a 400 gallons and possibly up to 450 gallons. Would I use a Reeflo 200 Pro skimmer on a 400-500 tank, probably not, I would end up with the Reeflo 250.

The cup alone adds to the efficiency of the 200 skimmer as it allows for more stable dwell time, added water volume (for the stock wheel only) and easier adjustment between wet and dry foam. The upcoming Pin wheel upgrade take the skimmer and upgrade cup to a new level with a better air to water ratio, finer bubbles and more air (estimated 20-40scfh).

[JRaquatics]

I forgot to mention the addition of the WOW factor the extra height the upgrade cup adds to the skimmer.:D

[Skipper]

She's started to skim!!

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/1005MVC-737S.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/1005MVC-736S.JPG

[virginiadiver69]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13721417#post13721417 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
added water volume (for the stock wheel only)(
Why for the stock wheel only?

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13740740#post13740740 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
Why for the stock wheel only?

Because the upgrade wheel adds so much air that will occupy the neck.

[virginiadiver69]

I see.

[Rueg]

OK. I am a little confused now. So with the upgraded cup you shouldn't use the upgraded wheel? Or are you saying you shouldn't upgrade the wheel without upgrading the cup?

[JRaquatics]

The is no way you can upgrade the wheel without the cup. Your almost adding twice the air. The whole neck is literally a steady up flow of air and water creating a nice tall head of foam. I run my water level at a hair above the top of the reeflo lettering when running.

[Rueg]

Wow! So you are running the water level in the skimmer lower with the new wheel?

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13744724#post13744724 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rueg
Wow! So you are running the water level in the skimmer lower with the new wheel?

Yup. I have my wedge valve almost completely open and feeding around 300 gph.:D

[Nanook]

Looks great:D!

[Rueg]

JRaquatics - did you notice a decrease in watts being consumed with the new wheel by chance? I would think since it is pushing more air and less water that less electricity may be used.

[JRaquatics]

With my AO Smith Dart I am getting 98-100 watts at 70-75 scfh with one of the prototypes. The new prototype should get lower watt numbers because there should be a lot less drag and hopefully a better water to air ratio.

The skimmer stock pulled 106-110watts at 40-45scfh.

[P.Kelly]

I have a really low bioload in my tank, 3 fish. I have to run the wedge pipe within an 1/8 of an inch of being closed to get any foam production in the neck at all, and it overskims really wet with just the slightest of change in the alignment of the moon, it seems. Is this just because of my bioload? Will it get better with more poop?

BTW, the skimmer has been running for 2+ months wide open.

[JRaquatics]

It sounds like it may just be a small bioload problem and you way have the water level too high. Can you cut the feed down about 100gph and see if that will allow for better skimmer control. When do you plan on stocking the tank?

[JRaquatics]

I received what I am hoping is the final prototype wheel for the Reeflo 200 Pro. I had it soaking in vinegar yesterday and now it is soaking in a cup of skimmate. I find that this speeds up the break in of the wheel. I will throw it on the Reeflo tonight and report any thoughts back to this thread> http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1526846

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/DSCN3418.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/DSCN3425.jpg

[Rueg]

Sweet! I am on the list for one of these, so hopefully it works really well and will be the final product.

[Sango-chu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13764909#post13764909 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
It sounds like it may just be a small bioload problem and you way have the water level too high. Can you cut the feed down about 100gph and see if that will allow for better skimmer control. When do you plan on stocking the tank?

Yeah, funny this should be mentioned. My Orca 250 is doing the same thing; although my bioload on my 275 gal display is small; 2 yellow tangs, 2 tomato clowns; 2 blue damsels, 1 chromis (?) and currently stocked with clams and SPS frags, and one rose tip anemone, but I added alot of live rock that decided to recycle...Thought I didn't need to go thru the new tank syndrome but apparently, the tank thought otherwise. I am having a hellava time fine tuning it and once I turned off and it flooded the the house. The place I got the Orca from told me that a MAG 5 is what it needed to get water thruy this beast...So, question is: Should I throttle back my pump too? At what level SHOULS my water be in the neck? Right now, its exactly at the the point where the next angles upinto the funnel portion of the cup.
Thanks in advance,

[Skipper]

Is it necessary to have your drain line above the water level in the sump for the skimmer to work properly?

[serpentman]

Although I don't think its absolutely necessary, I've found that mine runs much better if the drain is kept above the water level in the sump. I believe it allows the skimmer to release excess air.

[spongebobby]

I submerged my drain line to the bottom of my sump but I drilled 4 1/2 holes on the drain pipe just above the sump max level. Seems to let all the extra air exhaust and doesn't create alot of bubbles.

[serpentman]

I will have to try that to help alleviate my bubble issue.

[siropa]

I did the same thing as spongebobby and my 200 started working a lot better and more consistently after that.

[powertec]

I have got a reeflo 200 and have some questions?
My skimmer is fully broken in it has been running for 6 weeks wide open.

I cut my output pipe to 7 inches. I am feeding the skimmer with 350 gph. My water level is about at the top of the reeflo lettering.
When i use the wedge pipe to bring the water level to where the cup joins the body and then turn on the skimmer pump my skimmer overflows.

Any thoughts

[P.Kelly]

From my experience, and I'm sure JR will chime in, that's too high. You need to give it time to build-up bubbles in the neck. I fought with this for days before I figured it out.

BTW, these things are down to $649. I wish I had waited, but what a screaming price now!

[powertec]

Thank you for the reply.

What is to high?

The top of the tee?

The top of the tee is where the neck and cup join.

Also why are these skimmer so cheap now, are they going to stop making them?

[BreadmanMike]

powertec,

To get a response from JR you'll have to post in the Reef Specialty sponsor forum. He'll be happy to answer all of your questions.

[raffy026]

JRaquatics
I’ve been thinking in purchasing a new protein skimmer. I currently use the vs2-24 22 ½” tall from lifereef in my 75 gallon tank and was also used in my 180 gallon tank currently empty. Plan to build new system with the 180 with the 75 attach, to add more water volume. I am interested in the reeflo 200 and the 250 they sound pretty good. The lifereef skimmer works fine but I think with this volume + 30 gallon sump/refuge I need something better . My choice was the 250 but after reading your forum am not sure with to pick.

Jose.

[amay121]

raffy,

I'm in your shoes too, and just sprung for a 200, but my tank is a 225 and I'll be adding a 100g rubbermaid trough to it. I probably won't be going any bigger in tank size ( I HOPE), so I opted for the 200 over the 250.

I think that if you are thinking about upgrading in the near future, go with the 250, if you're set at 180, get the 200. You may also think about getting the 200 Pro from ReefSpecialty, but the price difference doesn't make it any different from the 250 at all.

Good luck in your choice.

[amay121]

Double post.

[powertec]

I am getting a huge head of foam but none of this flows down the side of the cup. Anyone find this?

[spongebobby]

How many gph are you feeding the skimmer? Also where is the water level inside the skimmer with the dart turned off?

[powertec]

I am feeding 350 gph ,and my water level is 1/2 inch below where the cup joins the body.

[thejuggernaut]

I am trying to figure out what type of pump to get to feed a 200 orca. I have had good luck with the Pan World pumps and would like to get one of those if they make one properly matched. Would at Pan World 40PX be appropriate? Its rated for a max of 480 GPH.

[guyduquette]

Ok, I did it.... the Orca 200 is on it's way. Thanks to the input from this board!!!

So, as I prepare for it's arrival I have a question:

When I plumb the output, should I put a vent at the skimmer using a tee? or will the Wedge handle this? I definitely will vent it as it actually enters sump (6 feet away). I'm just not sure if the vent in question could break the siphon and slow the flow... or maybe that's what I want to happen so it doesn't drain and surge.

You see I'm used to my ETSS 800 with gate valve.... had to use like five vents with very little success.

so excited to finally get a real skimmer.

Thanks Guys

[liquidfunk]

My O-ring on the skimmer neck broke. It still works but falls out easily and leaks a bit if the water level is too high.

Does anyone know where I might be able to find one of these? Reeflo currently does not have them as parts. They are switching manufactures because they are having a heck of a time getting parts.

Does anyone know of a O-ring depot type place that has grips of different Orings?

[spongebobby]

www.mcmaster.com

[ddier2020]

Well this is what i got from reef specialty... I put the skimmer together washed it with vinegar and ro water plumbe it in, and when i started the water, the pump leaks..... take it appart and look at the pump (which came all dirty) took the bolts of the pump and bingo, a really dirty housing assembly and no O-ring on the housing..
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/housing-1.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/impeller.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/motorassy.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/nooringdirty.jpg

[JRaquatics]

Something is not right. Contact us immediately and we will handle this. PM was also sent. I am not sure how a pump like this got in the mix, we haven't had these pumps for over 4 months. Something got mixed up but you should have a Baldor gold pump with the new Reeflo Pin wheel. We are really sorry for the inconvenience please get in touch with us and we will take care of this.

[ddier2020]

I know you guys will handle it. Never had a problem with you guys so I am not worried. Was just a little curious how it got in the box.. When I got my snapper, it was a bit dirty but I know they are tested. Will contact tomorrow.thanks

[drstupid]

yesterday i put the new reeflo version of the needlewheel on my 200 original AO smith pump. the needles seem to be very similar configuration, but the old one had them tapered on the outside and the new one has them all uniform. it's hard to tell now, but it's definitely doing something different; i had to reduce the flow to about 1/3 of the way up the cone without the recirc pump running to prevent it from flowing over madly (used to run it just below the union with the cup).

i'll wait until everything gets good and slimed up again before making any judgements. so far it's at least as good. i have the skimmate dumping into a bucket with a float switch in the lid to cut off the recirc pump if it fills, so i'm not too worried if things go mad. otherwise i'd run it with the output drain wide open like it was breaking in again, anyone think i should do that? the new wheel did soak in a vinegar bath before getting installed, and the skimmer got just routine cleaning, nothing major like i'd normally do draining the whole thing.

i've had this skimmer running in the original unmodified configuration for about a year now.

jeremy at premium aquatics set me up, he sold me the skimmer originally and gave me a primo deal on the new wheel. if it's not violating any user agreements, i'd like to say: these guys are awesome, and i've moved almost all my on-line business to them. even if it is violating any user agreements, i don't care; my experience has been great with this retailer and i'd recommend them to anyone keeping a reef.

jeremy at reef specialty, you are a great shop too, and i'm not trying to detract from the most excellent service you provide our community. i am just giving some well earned credit where credit is due.

[serpentman]

My experience with these guys has always been excellent. Looking forward to getting my new NW. Keep us posted.

[AcroporAddict]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14297699#post14297699 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drstupid
[B]yesterday i put the new reeflo version of the needlewheel on my 200 original AO smith pump. the needles seem to be very similar configuration, but the old one had them tapered on the outside and the new one has them all uniform. it's hard to tell now, but it's definitely doing something different

The upgraded wheel is defective because of machining error. Reef Specialty recommended everyone that received one ship them back for replacement.

To quote Jeremy from another thread in this forum:

"Everyone that we did not ship out were in fact defected. So I believe the whole lot is bad. We really did not expect this as our machinist usually does top notch work.We hope to have a fast turn-around on the fixed wheels. I will keep everyone updated on their status.

Sorry again for the inconvenience and extended delay."


Dave

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14302599#post14302599 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AcroporAddict
The upgraded wheel is defective because of machining error. Reef Specialty recommended everyone that received one ship them back for replacement.

To quote Jeremy from another thread in this forum:

"Everyone that we did not ship out were in fact defected. So I believe the whole lot is bad. We really did not expect this as our machinist usually does top notch work.We hope to have a fast turn-around on the fixed wheels. I will keep everyone updated on their status.

Sorry again for the inconvenience and extended delay."


Dave

Drstupid didn't get the machined high performance wheel by us. He is talking about the new wheel that now comes stock with the Reeflo skimmers.

[Rueg]

It really sucks that the Orca 200 dropped $200 after I bought it.

[Rueg]

And to top that off I didn't even get the gold motor!

[JRaquatics]

And Yes, as AcroporAddict stated above we are recalling all defective Reef Specialty 200 upgrade wheels. The defective ones are being sent back to our machinist for exchange of new 200 upgrade wheels. Luckily only a few went out before we were notified but a few still have not been sent back.

Again, sorry for any any type of inconvenience this may have caused.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14302694#post14302694 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rueg
And to top that off I didn't get the gold motor!

I am right with you partner. But everything needs to advance to stay in the game. Now they come with a gold pump and new reeflo pin wheel at a lower cost (Year End Sale).

[Rueg]

It is almost worse than computers!

I purchased the RS cup. Just sent the RS wheel back. I am going to end up spending close to $1150 on this sucker. I sent back my defective wheel this past Friday (1/30). You should have it soon since I paid extra for priority mail.

When did you guys move from Chicago to Utah?

[JRaquatics]

We'll take care of you with the shipping. Reef Specialty moved last December.

[Rueg]

Hopefully it is warmer there than where I am in WI.

Looks like the wheel may have arrived back today: Arrival at Unit, February 02, 2009, 5:00 am, HEBER CITY, UT 84032

Is there going to be a wait for the replacement? If so, no big deal. I will be going out of town soon and won't have time to deal with it for a while.

Thanks.

[ddier2020]

Ok guys just want to clear something up. Last night Mike told me to send pictures of the Used pump, well when i got to look at it, i saw on the shipping label, the skimmer was Drop shipped straigh from coral vue, Reefflo contacted me today to apologize for sending me a bad pump. I must say that mike handeled this very profecional. I sent reeflo some pictures just waitng for them to fix this.... Thanks for the quick responce mike. Every business can make mistakes, but what makes a good business is the willingness to satisfy the customer at all costs...its why I am still in business, and why reef scpecalty is still in business.

[P.Kelly]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14302748#post14302748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
I am right with you partner. But everything needs to advance to stay in the game. Now they come with a gold pump and new reeflo pin wheel at a lower cost (Year End Sale).

Are you guys recommending the new pinwheel without the neck upgrade? If so, what are the benefits? Less wattage draw, etc?

[Rueg]

No, they do not suggest using the new pinwheel without the upgraded skimmer cup that is taller. It would be too much air and you need the taller cup - otherwise it will be too turbulent. It is explained better in this thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1526846

[jwilliams860]

I think pete is refering to the new REEFLO stock wheel that comes with the skimmer, not RS's custom wheel.

[P.Kelly]

I've got a 200 from RS with the Gold Dart, with a production date that looks to be 04-08. How do I tell which pinwheel it has?

[JRaquatics]

You don't have the new Reeflo pin wheel. We literally just got the pumps with the new wheels last week and still have not had a chance to see one yet. We are unsure at this point what they provide in performance as compared to their old stock wheel.

[ddier2020]

Your set up looks fine. But have a few suggestions. From the pic your water level is way too low. So lets turn the skimmer off and figure out your wedge valve. Start with the valve completely open then start slowly closing it till you see the water level rise. When it starts to rise take a permenant marker and draw a small line on the tee and right above the on the wedge. This will be you starting point and give you an idea of when the wedge starts to close. Then turn the wedge till the water gets at its highest point and mark it (showing the valve full closed, and help you have an idea of where your at on the wedge). Now turn it back so that the water level is right at were the black coupler were the neck and the cup meet, this is were your going to want your water level and make it with an arrow, dots or whatever on both the tee and wedge.



JR is there any way in the world, that you could show some pics of you soing this??

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14314139#post14314139 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ddier2020
JR is there any way in the world, that you could show some pics of you soing this??

I don't have any pics but will get some with me doing it with another skimmer. It will be a couple weeks though, as I need to allow the skimmer to break in first.

[drstupid]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14302748#post14302748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
I am right with you partner. But everything needs to advance to stay in the game. Now they come with a gold pump and new reeflo pin wheel at a lower cost (Year End Sale).

this is what is going to happen to our hobby in hard economic times. there are those who will pay under $300 for a skimmer, and then there are the rest of us. there are going to be fewer and fewer people in this hobby who are going to be in the first group, and more in the latter group. competition will be getting fierce in the world of high end reef products.

ironically, this is very good for those of use whose wives will let them continue to keep a reef in the face of hard economic times....

[amay121]

Please y'all gotta stop scaring guys like me who just made this purchase for the 200. Now when the package comes in today, I'll have to go through the whole package and make sure that everything is working properly and looks brand new and not used. I wasn't even going to open the package until a few months later.

[JRaquatics]

We still don't know how that "used pump" got into the mix of the new ones at Reeflo. That should be an isolated incident, as we sell a quite a few of these skimmers a month without problems with ddier2020's being the first. We do advise to check all merchandise after shipping to make sure everything shipped ok. Enjoy your new skimmer amay121.

[ddier2020]

Anytime you get anything you should open it. Besides if you order from reef specialty mike checks everything, when I ordered mine it came straight from coralvue and the pump from sequence.. Mike was not able to check it. Also remember this is a fairly new skimmer, changes are bound to be made by manufacturers to make them better. Would not worry the performance of the skimmer, compared to the price is good.

[liquidfunk]

is anyone able to get me some specs on the O-ring? I still need to find a replacement....

[JRaquatics]

O-rings can be made to fit at most ACE Hardwares and pull supply stores.

[panic]

I'm in - Just ordered my 200!

[amay121]

Got mine in and everything looks ok. I'll probably attempt to put things together in the following weeks/months. :) Thanks to RS (which I'm sure I'll be calling) and this thread (which I'm sure I'll be referencing).

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14322498#post14322498 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by amay121
Got mine in and everything looks ok. I'll probably attempt to put things together in the following weeks/months. :) Thanks to RS (which I'm sure I'll be calling) and this thread (which I'm sure I'll be referencing).

Give us a call when you are ready to set it up and we can walk you through it.

[amay121]

One thing, what'd I need again when I'm ready?

1) Silicon Lube
2) Teflon Tabe
3) ????
4) ????
etc.
etc.

[serpentman]

Jeremy, I just received the upgraded skimmer cup and noticed that the total watts pulled jumped to 135W. I am assuming this has to do with more water volume/pressure. Just wanted to double check that this is normal.

Also, I have the new pinwheel on back order, what impact will this have on my total wattage?

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14330998#post14330998 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by serpentman
Jeremy, I just received the upgraded skimmer cup and noticed that the total watts pulled jumped to 135W. I am assuming this has to do with more water volume/pressure. Just wanted to double check that this is normal.

Also, I have the new pinwheel on back order, what impact will this have on my total wattage?

Yes, the wattage will jump when using the stock wheel because you are adding water volume and not air to reach the top of the cup. With the upgrade wheel you should be anywhere between 98-105 watts.

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14330928#post14330928 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by amay121
One thing, what'd I need again when I'm ready?

1) Silicon Lube
2) Teflon Tabe
3) ????
4) ????
etc.
etc.

1) Silicon Lube
2) Teflon Tape
3) PVC cleaner
4) PVC glue
5) Pump or plumbing for feeding the skimmer
6) Return plumbing (pipe, unions, tees, etc.)
7) Our # 773-851-3861

[drstupid]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14331465#post14331465 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
1) Silicon Lube
2) Teflon Tape
3) PVC cleaner
4) PVC glue
5) Pump or plumbing for feeding the skimmer
6) Return plumbing (pipe, unions, tees, etc.)
7) Our # 773-851-3861

8) 4 gallons of mix water available to fill the monster.

[JohnL]

This thread was automatically split due to performance issues. You can find the rest of the thread here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1569606