Tunze powerhead vs Wavebox for flow..

[homebrewdude]

I am still working on my 150gal tank.
I will have about 900gph return line on a sea swirl.
I was planning on 2 #4 koralia for flow - but I am having problems with them.

I was thinking of 2 NanoStream Pump 6055 that I can run on my controller.

Or for about the same money, I can get a tunze wavebox.

This will be a mostly LPS tank.
The tank is tall, not long.

Any suggestions on pumps vs wavebox?

[rfields]

You said in another thread that you had a problem with one Koralia 4, did you get this problem fixed? I know you just said you email Hydor about the second problem, going to let them fix this problem? I know with LPS you have to be careful with the amount of flow you give them, trust me I have a lot of ticked off LPS right now, trying to adjust the flow from 3 Koralia 3's.

[T Man]

I have a wavebox and two #4 koralias for circulation. The wavebox generates an ideal "sway" for my LPS and clams, while the powerheads provide a current for the fish to ride.
Tunze makes the best, If you have the dough.....you'll get what you pay for and your corals will love ya'!:D T

[rfields]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11414278#post11414278 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by T Man
I have a wavebox and two #4 koralias for circulation. The wavebox generates an ideal "sway" my LPS and clams while the powerheads provide a curret for the fish to ride.
Tunze makes the best, If you have the dough.....you'll get what you pay for and your corals will love ya'!:D T

I will agree that Tunze makes the best BUT would it be toooooooooo much flow for a 120 when you add everything else?

[homebrewdude]

I was thinking the wavebox would replace the power heads.

Would I still need a powerhead if I have a wavebox?

[rfields]

trying to find gallons per hour right now

[homebrewdude]

Maybe that would depend on the size of the tank???

[rfields]

you dont have much bigger tank that i have, 75, and really i right now with everything i have seen wouldnt put one in with LPS

[homebrewdude]

My tank is 150gal
No wavebox alone??

People that are running these waveboxes all have SPS?

[rfields]

from everything i can see and i might be missing something with this system, only looked for abt 30 minutes on the internet, these would be GREAT for a SPS tank or a fish only, even tho it might be over kill there, but i know that my LPS like the low to mid level flow and this would be over the top for them

[rfields]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11414446#post11414446 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by homebrewdude
My tank is 150gal
No wavebox alone??

People that are running these waveboxes all have SPS?

If you have rocks around your LPS you should be good but if in the open you will see the problem. If you want i can email you pix of the problem with toooo much flow

[BreadmanMike]

You still need powerheads even if you have a wavebox. The wavebox will keep detritus suspended, but you still need flow to get the solids into your overflow down to the the skimmer.

I would suggest 2x6101's and the wavebox or just get the 6101's if money is an issue. You can add the wavebox later.

[homebrewdude]

Aquaticman74 do you have a wavebox??

[BreadmanMike]

I used to before I sold my 125. I'm thinking of adding one and an extension to my cube.

[rfields]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11414505#post11414505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by homebrewdude
Aquaticman74 do you have a wavebox??

And which tank size?

[homebrewdude]

So a wavebox and some powerheads for flow would be ok for LPS?

My 120 currently has 2 #4 koralia's and could probably use a bit more flow...

My 150 I was thinking a wavebox and one nanostream (the large one)
And I have the 900gph return flow

[BreadmanMike]

I think you would be better off with two 6101's and the multicontroller.

[rfields]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11414733#post11414733 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
I think you would be better off with two 6101's and the multicontroller.

two 6101's and the multicontroller or two 6101's and the multicontroller with wavebox?

[homebrewdude]

Why the 6101 vs the nanostream??
The nanostream can run on a controller also

[BreadmanMike]

Another suggestion would be the wavebox and 4-6 of the mj mods or modded 6025 nano streams.

[Creetin]

Here ya go, No wavebox needed just 2 6100's controlled by my profilux aquarium controller. You gan get the light2 profilux for the same price as the tunze multicontroller and controll 4 tunze's and lights, monitor temp ect.
Check out ghl's forum here for more details.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/realcreetin/th_newfishpics095.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/realcreetin/?action=view&current=newfishpics095.flv)

[Creetin]

BTW its 2 6100's on a 6 ft 180 tank. No ugly back box.

[rfields]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11414822#post11414822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Creetin
BTW its 2 6100's on a 6 ft 180 tank. No ugly back box.

Creetin saw the SPS and they look great. Can you tell us how much LPS you have in your tank?

[Creetin]

Mostly acans for lps. I have about 10 small colony's at the moment, A little more than i had there. They like the flow, They are getting a decent amt of flow, Not like the top of the tank, But more than they had previously. The flow is a cross of a wavebox and a stream, You still get that flow you would not get with a wavebox. Heres a link to the light 2, I own the profilux plus II


http://www.aqua-digital.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=87&category_id=14&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=30

[BreadmanMike]

Here's an older shot of my cube with three 6100's and lots of LPS.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/aquaticman74/IMG_0559.jpg

[Creetin]

Forgot, You see where the sand is not there. LOL Thats where my acans are. They are plump and happy.

[rfields]

guess the real question is why kind of lps homebrewdude has

[Creetin]

Its not a torrent of flow, With the controller he can raise and lower the flow rates as much as he likes and use other features like surge flows ect. I have thunderstorm simulations with lightning and i raise the tunze's up to 100% and have 2 6045's fire up to create storm surges. ;) Be it that its mild/ tame to the real ocean, Its still closer to home for the corals and fish
Plus its pretty neat. LOL

[USC-fan]

I would get the modded 6025 over the 6055.

[homebrewdude]

Creetin - looks good.
Any reason for the 6101 vs the nanostreams?

I would probably run the tunze from the Aquacontroller I already have

[homebrewdude]

The modded 6025 would not run on a controller?

[rfields]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11415055#post11415055 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by homebrewdude
The modded 6025 would not run on a controller?

are you not looking at wavemaker and PH's?

[Creetin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11415044#post11415044 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by homebrewdude
Creetin - looks good.
Any reason for the 6101 vs the nanostreams?

I would probably run the tunze from the Aquacontroller I already have

Well i have 2 nano's and i dont think they would do the trick, on my tank, You may be happy with them. :)
I have no exp with them on a AC i assume you have the aquasurf??

[USC-fan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11415055#post11415055 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by homebrewdude
The modded 6025 would not run on a controller? Neither will the 6055 unless you buy the aquasurf.

I just don't think it worth the $$ to have controllable pumps..

I would get the 2x 6025 modded and a tunze wavebox. That is kinda like my set up in my 90gal.

[Creetin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11415120#post11415120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by USC-fan
Neither will the 6055 unless you buy the aquasurf.

I just don't think it worth the $$ to have controllable pumps..

I would get the 2x 6025 modded and a tunze wavebox. That is kinda like my set up in my 90gal.

Well for the price you could get 2 6055's and an aquasurf/ or a controller of some sort for the same price, and eliminate a big ugly box in your tank.
But to each thier own. Both ways will work fine!

[homebrewdude]

Cost also matters.
I thought with a wave box I would not need any powerheads.
But a pair of 6101's with a controller would be $900+
A pair of Nanostreams and controller would be $600+
Tunze wavebox is $450+

[jmchzn]

wave box. go to large tank thread. guy builds 300 gallon and has video link showing wave box in action. get the surf board out.
mine kicks butt in a 90 gal. I took all powerheads out. nice and clean and looks like the ocean in there now!
joe

[homebrewdude]

You only have a wavebox?
What type of corals do you mainly keep? LPS SPS?