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reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 11:19 AM

On the left is a colt. The anemone on the right is a gigantea. I bought the dialyseas when I was making the plans for this tank because I wanted to reduce the maintenence. My previous tank was a 180gal and I was sick of doing water changes. It has a lot of features I don't use and I hear the new model is going to be a wonder, but I mainly bought it so I wouldn't be mixing any more salt and water! I had to work out some bugs in the begining but now I couldn't live without it.

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 11:23 AM

pic of the colt coral
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-colt.jpg

jnarowe

12/28/2007, 11:26 AM

well it's good to know you got it all worked out. I remember you were having fits over that thing for a while.

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 02:08 PM

I don't think that was me, but I remember other people here having some problems. I got a few phone calls and e-mails asking for help with the setup.

jnarowe

12/28/2007, 02:18 PM

Sorry, I am probably mistaken, but the equipment room photo looked familiar.

tcmfish

12/28/2007, 02:38 PM

Didn't you have a build thread or if you don't or don't know where it is can you explain how the dialyseas works? Thanks in advance. Awesome set-up.

Elliott

12/28/2007, 02:41 PM

http://www.seavisions.com/prod02.htm (http://)

Chihuahua6

12/28/2007, 04:20 PM

Is that a long polyped Toadstool in the 4th picture? It looks like it has some babies budding off of it. How big is it? It's beautiful.

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 04:59 PM

Yes it is. There are about 6 of them of various sizes spread throughout the tank and it seems all have reproduced. I had one in my old 180 and these are its decendents.
I posted pics here a year ago when the tank was new, but I did not do a build thread which I blame on the fact that I was also putting an addition on the house. I was so busy and so stressed I just didn't have the time. I regret it now because I think a lot of people would have found it useful.
If the link above to Seavisions didn't answer questions you might have about the dialyseas, feel free to ask. I had it operating on my 180gal for a few months when I got it, and now on this tank for 20 months.

Deepsea2005

12/28/2007, 05:06 PM

Beautiful.
I love everything of it.

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 05:24 PM

Here are some more of the softies. I love the look of a sps dominated tank, but I think a reef is all about diversity and that my ultimate goal is to try and duplicate a natural reef. Pics of the sps can wow you with their fabulous color, but when you see a tank in person it's the movement in the tank that is so hypnotic. I find the softies add so much that are not evident in pics.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0244.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0239.jpg

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 05:33 PM

You can't beat the color of these guys though. If anyone had told me 15 years ago that some day I would have a tank that had these corals growing in it, I wouldn't have believed them.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0243.jpg

Elliott

12/28/2007, 05:34 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11473764#post11473764 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
Here are some more of the softies. I love the look of a sps dominated tank, but I think a reef is all about diversity and that my ultimate goal is to try and duplicate a natural reef. Pics of the sps can wow you with their fabulous color, but when you see a tank in person it's the movement in the tank that is so hypnotic. I find the softies add so much that are not evident in pics.

I agree, natural reef's are mixed and the movement is captivating, your tank is awesome, can describe what you are using for flow?

nrike

12/28/2007, 05:47 PM

SWEEEEEEEEEEET.

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 05:51 PM

Two Tunze 6000 that are stationary, and two Tunze 6060 that are mounted on wavy seas. Here is a pic from above. I have a center overflow, so everything is mounted on that. I went with the Tunzes because of the savings over a closed loop in regards to electricity. They are also easily cleaned.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-tunze.jpg

khoivo1

12/28/2007, 08:40 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11470952#post11470952 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
This is what the basement looks like. All the water changes are done by the dialyseas.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0049.JPG
\hi can you tell us more about the water changes done by dialyseas?? also some new closeup picture of the sump please thanks
i am try to coppy your sump set up thanks

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 10:10 PM

here is the RDSB connected to the sump. This is an old pic. I wrapped the RDSB with insulation to keep the entire thing warm. Bacteria like to be kept cozy.:p
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0048.JPG

reefkeeper2

12/28/2007, 10:24 PM

The dialyseas sucks water from the sump and runs it through a dialysis membrane and returns it to the sump. The water that returns has almost everything removed from it during this process. The specific gravity of the water returned is about 1.004. There is a conductivity meter that monitors the salinity. Eventually the specific gravity falls as more water is dialysized through the day. I presently have it set for 7 gal a day. When it falls below a threshold I have set, (1.025) a pump in the dialyseas pumps concentrated brine into the sump ( little by little) until the specific gravity is where it should be.
The result is that there is very little change in the salinity even though I am changing water all the time. It works quite well. The unit also produces 75 gal a day of RO/DI water. Although the dialyseas is capable of replacing evaporated water, I don't use this feature. I have a litremeter that pulls the water through a aquamedic kalkstirrer and adds it to the sump.
Here is a pic of the inside of the sump. You can see my carbon and GFO reactor, along with my protein skimmer.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0046.JPG

snick1734

12/28/2007, 10:33 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11467805#post11467805 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
Steve, your welcome to come anytime, or you can wait until the next BRS meeting held in Bridgewater where there is usually a group of people that come over after.

Thanks we will take you up on that offer sometime when we are out that way meeting or tank tours

steve & nicole

Elliott

12/28/2007, 11:02 PM

so you are essentially doing a 7g/day water change? I really like that dialyseas unit, makes a lot of sense, constantly refreshing the water instead of allowing it to degrade over time followed by a large water change.

their website states it's cheaper than manual water changes, has that been your experience? though with the price of the unit it would take some time to pay for itself, if ever. probably worth it anyway in labor costs and convenience, for sure

also, it appears it can replenish calcium?

reefkeeper2

12/29/2007, 11:45 AM

I don't know if it's cheaper (your supposed to save on salt) because there was never a way for me to compare cost . Remember also that you have to buy a membrane every 3 to 4 months and thats about $58.00. I can only say that in my opinion, it's been well worth the money. I really like it and would buy it again. Be forwarned though, the manual you get with the unit (unless somethings changed) is complicated and the customer service is unprofessional which surprised me. I know some people have had some bad experiences, and you may be able to find them here on RC. It also takes a while to get your unit because they are made individually when you place the order.

reefkeeper2

12/29/2007, 11:53 AM

I forgot about your question on calcium. On my unit there is a group of outlets that can be plugged into various devices. There is a calcium mixer (turns my kalkwasser stirrer on and off at interval) a calicium doser (could dose calcium chloride as in the balling meathod) and a salt mixer( keeps the salt in the brine tank mixed). You could plug anything you wanted into these outlets. They are all computer controlled. I am not familiar with the new dialyseas unit, but I assume it will have more options.

SeaSerpant

12/29/2007, 12:32 PM

I love the tank. Don't anemones kill other corals? It looks great anyway. what kind of live stock do you have in there?

Elliott

12/29/2007, 01:50 PM

it sounds like a little bit of learning curve is involved, may try one on my next tank, thanks for the info

reefkeeper2

12/29/2007, 02:17 PM

Anemones kill other corals if they touch them. Some do not seem affected when the anemone touches them like the purple gorgonian on the right, which has often had the tentacles all over it.

Elliott

12/29/2007, 04:52 PM

can you describe how you control your calcium and alkalinity, and the levels you maintain?

reefkeeper2

12/29/2007, 05:45 PM

I have a schuran calcium reactor. I also have an aquamedic kalkwasser stirrer and all my top-off water runs through that. Between the two, it keeps my calcium around 400ppm and my alkalinity at 9dkh. I used to have to supplement with Randys 2 part every once in a while, but since I stopped using Instant Ocean salt (low in Ca and Mg) I no longer have to. Remember the dialyseas constantly changes the water, so a good quality salt with high Ca, Mg and alkalinity helps keep the levels up.
I use a high quality bitumous coal activated carbon 24/7 and Warner Marine phosar for phosphate control. The tank is mixed with lots of softies and anemones so this is a must. I just recently started using ozone and I have noticed the sps polyp extension has greatly increased since I did this. I think the ozone gets out the last of the organics that the carbon misses.

Elliott

12/29/2007, 06:19 PM

thank you for your answers. if you don't mind a few more questions:

so you really only use the dialyseas for refreshing the water?

what salt mix do you use? can you describe what is involved, I'm guessing you add salt to a mixer that is controlled by the dialyseas?

how much and how often to you change the carbon?

what is your average ORP?

many thanks again

reefkeeper2

12/29/2007, 07:00 PM

The dialyseas has a salt bucket. You just pour the salt of your choise into it. I have a small powerhead inside that goes on every 5 minutes for 30seconds to keep it mixed. The dialyseas computer controls it. You don't have to use one but I find it's better mixed if you do. I use Red Sea Coral Pro salt.
Carbon is changed every month. I use one cup per/100gal. I also use carbon for the outflow from the ozone reactor (an old skimmer) changed every month also.
I don't let the orp climb past 390. Right now it's at 340 because my Ozotec poseidon died last week, and I'm using a very old Sanders unit until my new one (Sanders) arrives.
The dialyseas can monitor orp and pH but I did not purchase those options. I already had seperate controller/monitors for those. I have heard the new model dialyseas will have more bells and whistles you could ever wish for, including a windows based computer that tracks all your maintenence, feedings, and your entire livestock population.

Elliott

12/29/2007, 11:16 PM

I'm thinking of running my ozone through an old skimmer as well, have it connected to my barr 5220, but even though it's supposed to be ok I'd rather not risk it. my orp averages about 325 or so, I'm running everything off of an acII, use kalk for all my top off as you are doing along with a large 2 cyl ca reactor, ph seems to run on the high side 8.5-8.7 during the photoperiod, alk around 9-10, I'm using reef crystals.
I run carbon now and then, have read pro's and con's regarding how long to run it, I guess you don't feel it usefulness is short lived?

reefkeeper2

12/30/2007, 10:25 AM

No, I think it continues to work for some time. I have no conclusive evidence to site, just my observations. I think you could find some in the chemistry forum though if you did a search. I have a diatom filter that I sometimes charge with powdered carbon and run it when I clean or do maintenence in the tank. It does an amazing job of polishing the water.

reefkeeper2

12/30/2007, 05:30 PM

This is a pic of the schuran calcium reactor. I feed it into an old Koralin reactor that serves as a second stage. I had it lying around so I figured I might as well make use of it. From there it goes into the sump. However, first I have the effluent bubble up through a cup of GFO since calcium reactors have been shown to contribute significant phosphate.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0045.JPG

Elliott

12/30/2007, 06:52 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11485838#post11485838 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
This is a pic of the schuran calcium reactor. I feed it into an old Koralin reactor that serves as a second stage. I had it lying around so I figured I might as well make use of it. From there it goes into the sump. However, first I have the effluent bubble up through a cup of GFO since calcium reactors have been shown to contribute significant phosphate.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0045.JPG

so you have two ca reactors connected in series? How do they add phosphate? Is there phosphate in coral skeletons?

jnarowe

12/30/2007, 06:58 PM

The process of disolving calcium into solution generally precipitates phosphate. I run my effluent through a GFO reactor. And BTW, if you use media like Schuran or the Gen-X knock-off, soaking it in RO/DI water prior to using it will draw off quite a bit of PO4. What I do is soak it in a 5g bucket and test the water. Then I drain it and soak it again. When the test shows zero, I then put it in my reactor. This little tip came from Steve Weast on his last visit, and his point was, why burn the GFO when you can soak the PO4 out of the media? This allows the GFO to last a lot longer.

Elliott

12/30/2007, 07:10 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11486405#post11486405 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
The process of disolving calcium into solution generally precipitates phosphate.

I'm tyring to understand this, if the process precipitates phosphate, phosphate levels would go down, is phosphate a bi product from dissolving coral skeletons with CO2?

jnarowe

12/30/2007, 07:14 PM

I may have not written that correctly. It is common knowledge that calcium reactors produce PO4 but maybe precipitate is not the correct word. As I stated, you can soak PO4 out of coral bones, so I am not sure that it is entirely dependent on CO2.

Elliott

12/30/2007, 07:19 PM

ahh, then there is probably phosphate in or on the coral skeleton, I'm surprised you can soak it out though, I'm wondering if it gets soaked out after it's been in the reactor for a while?

jnarowe

12/30/2007, 08:02 PM

yes, and into your water column. That's the whole point of running the effluent through GFO (or some people use carbon).

Elliott

12/30/2007, 08:11 PM

but it's temporary, in other words it gets soaked out, so there is no reason to continue running the effluent through GFO, right?

jnarowe

12/30/2007, 08:39 PM

I don't know that it is temporary. All the advanced reef keepers I know run their effluent through GFO. I don't understand the chemistry enough to give you an answer to that, but you might get one iin the reef chemistry forum.

reefkeeper2

12/30/2007, 10:01 PM

The GFO will eventually get exhausted. I replace it every 6 to 8 weeks depending on PO4 levels or how the aquarium looks. If I see algae growing on the acrylic just two days after I have cleaned it, it's time to change the GFO.

jnarowe

12/30/2007, 10:26 PM

Same here. I use an entire canister 1000g and swap it about every 6 - 8 weeks. But I change my carbon out much more often. I can post a pic of my multi-media reactor if you are interested.

clekchau

12/30/2007, 10:29 PM

wowwwwee

tbone28

12/30/2007, 11:25 PM

How long do you soak the media in RODI before using it?

Elliott

12/30/2007, 11:42 PM

have you had any bad experiences using GFO? I understand if GFO particulates get into the display coral bleaching or rtn can occur?

Tremelle

12/31/2007, 12:09 AM

It has been some time since I have seen your tank thread. Your tank is still an inspiration for me. Keep up the good work and give me more inspiration. :)

jnarowe

12/31/2007, 10:52 AM

tbone28: If you are referring to the Schuran/Gen-X media, it seems to take about 3 days. I will soak it for a day, test the water, change out for fresh RO/DI and soak it again. It's not very scientific, but it seems to take about 3 days for my test to show zero. Keep in mind that I am using the Deltec/Merck PO4 test.

tbone28

12/31/2007, 11:47 AM

Yup, talking about the Gen-X media. Good info. Looking to get a Calcium reactor soon. Thanks!

reefkeeper2

12/31/2007, 02:23 PM

Actually, the only times I have had RTN in my tank was the same week I switched out the GFO. This could be coincidence of course, but I wonder if it has happened to anyone else. Perhaps a sudden dramatic drop in PO4 can induce RTN?
And thanks everbody for all the compliments on my tank. I would never have accomplished it without the help I have gotten here and the BRS website.

jnarowe

12/31/2007, 02:27 PM

This has been noted in many threads. That is why I run my effluent through GFO and then doubled up fine filter socks. I have never associated RTN with the introduction of fresh GFO. Better safe than sorry I guess!

reefkeeper2

12/31/2007, 02:40 PM

I ususally rinse it really well, but perhaps I need to do better. I would like to know if it's the dust or the sudden drop in phosphates that triggers the RTN.

tjh

12/31/2007, 02:44 PM

looks fantastic

and thank again for your help with my dialyseas machine.

reefkeeper2

12/31/2007, 03:09 PM

Your welcome! Did everything turn out ok?

Elliott

12/31/2007, 03:11 PM

energy (1700g stingray reef display) has also experienced rtn with new GFO, he has postulated GFO particulates settling on corals and/or too rapid of changes of phosphates. it's interesting that you have had a similar experience.

reefkeeper2

12/31/2007, 03:31 PM

I'm due to change next week so I think I will run the diatom filter that day. That should take care of any particulates. As for a sudden drop in phosphates, I will slow the flow out of the reactor for the first 4 days. Other than that I don't know what else I can do.

tjh

12/31/2007, 04:43 PM

yes it did. i had a bad pressure switch on the high off. couple of other little bugs fixed, followed all of your tips, and im free sailing. i really like it.

for all to know: this man gave me his number and spent a bit of his weekend on the phone with me, helping troubleshoot. WAY COOL DUDE. and his tank aint half bad either!

poopsko24

12/31/2007, 04:45 PM

that is my dream setup.........i bet the plants do great in there .

reefkeeper2

12/31/2007, 06:35 PM

The plants do very well. The humidity in the room is perfect for them.

customclimates

12/31/2007, 07:44 PM

That tank looks amazing...I have seen a few post on the BRS as well!

reefkeeper2

01/01/2008, 03:02 PM

Here are a few more pics. I'm waiting for a sunny day to take full tank shot. Clams first.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-crocea.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-gigas.jpg

reefkeeper2

01/01/2008, 03:05 PM

Miscellaneous...
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-more_acros2.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-softies.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-powder_blue.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-more_acros.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-leopard_wrasse.jpg

yaktop

01/01/2008, 07:41 PM

looking real good. havent seen in person for awhile. always a treat. happy new year and a healthy reef year. :D

yaktop

01/01/2008, 07:51 PM

just re=read and noticed your not using IO anymore. what did you change to?

to others, how do you run your effluent through GFO, simply connect the reactor drain line to it an no other pump?

TIA

jnarowe

01/01/2008, 08:04 PM

yup. I just let it trickle up through floss, media bag, more floss, and a double sock.

reefkeeper2

01/01/2008, 10:14 PM

I changed to Red Sea Coral Pro. IO is low in CA and Mg, which is easy to fix if your mixing a batch to do a water change. With the dialyseas however, you are continuously changing the water and so you can't doctor the salt you pour into the salt tank. You need a salt that has the best values as is. So far this is the salt I like best.

jnarowe

01/01/2008, 10:26 PM

I hav eheard some good things about it, but I haven't had the chance to buy and test any. I have recently been getting good results with OceanPure Pro.

THE GIMP

01/02/2008, 12:29 AM

Fantastic room. I especially like the arrangements. A work of art by my standards. Looking forward to the FTS. Thanks for sharing.

invincible569

01/02/2008, 04:05 PM

i love pics

reefkeeper2

01/03/2008, 12:23 PM

Here is a pic of the tank from last year followed by one of this year. Notice the change in the orientation of the lights.http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-full_tank4_2-16-07.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-tank_1-3-07.jpg

reefkeeper2

01/03/2008, 12:29 PM

I had to change the lighting orientation because the corals were growing up and inwards, instead of up and out. I also added 4 Finnex fixtures (24watt t5) to extend lighting to the farther reaches of the tank. The change has worked well. Here a few pics of the lighting, and the fixtures I built to hang the maristars and finnex from.http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-lights.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-lights2.jpg

reefkeeper2

01/03/2008, 12:33 PM

You can also see that at this time of year, even on a sunny day the tank gets no sunlight. In about March, all that changes and from then till September the tank gets natural sunlight. In Summer it's flooded with it and the look is totally different.

summer6

01/03/2008, 09:26 PM

Your tank takes my breath away - it's just beautifully put together.
How big is the center overflow, and how may returns do you have?
Could you give anymore info on how you disguised the plumbing to the basement?
I'm wondering because if we end-up building a new home, I'm seriously thinking of going with a 200-300 gallon cube or rectangle tank that would be free standing.
Thanks.:) This thread is in my bookmark!

Elliott

01/03/2008, 10:47 PM

I have not seen a more beautiful setting for a reef tank, just stunning.

reefkeeper2

01/04/2008, 11:16 AM

Thanks! The center overflow is 12"x 8". Inside are two dursos, two returns and a chase for electrical. It's a tight fit. The plumbing
goes down the inside of one of the center collumns, and returns via the other center collumn. They where made of cinderblock, so this was easy.

summer6

01/04/2008, 02:21 PM

Thanks for the dimensions. It gives me a lot to ponder. I'm not electrically inclined (save that for my husband) but I'll assume the "chase" you refer to must be something like an empty pvc pipe to run the electric down?
I'd be doing another basement sump, and I really love the design of the platform the tank sits upon.

reefkeeper2

01/04/2008, 02:35 PM

Yup, thats exactly what a chase is. The cords for my Tunzes pass through it and go down into the basement. They connect to the battery backup down there.

reefkeeper2

01/06/2008, 02:22 PM

new aquisition
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-triggers2.jpg

reefkeeper2

01/06/2008, 02:24 PM

The male is a little braver than the female
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-trigger3.jpg

jnarowe

01/06/2008, 02:33 PM

beautiful. I love those.

reefkeeper2

01/06/2008, 02:58 PM

I have been thinking about getting a pair for a few weeks now. I
walked into a LFS and there they were. Fate for sure.

jnarowe

01/06/2008, 03:04 PM

I see them all the time but am a bit shy about triggers. Still one of my favorite fish, and they stay relatively small.

reefkeeper2

01/06/2008, 03:18 PM

The Blue Jaws are supposed to be one of the best triggers for a reef tank. So far they are shy, but are eating. My powder blue didn't give them a second glance. I was surprised since he thinks he's King of the Tank.

jnarowe

01/06/2008, 03:38 PM

well, if teeth have anything to do with it, the PBT is now #2. :lol:

summer6

01/06/2008, 06:39 PM

I had a male for about a year, and then it suddenly "withdrew," and stopped eating, socializing etc.,so I had to bring him back to my lfs.
I'm sure you're male will be very content with his female alongside.
They are beautiful fish.

jnarowe

01/06/2008, 07:51 PM

What, did he pout because he didn't get no tang? :lol:

clekchau

01/06/2008, 10:58 PM

:lol:

reefkeeper2

01/07/2008, 10:59 AM

Although I bought them together, they are not a bonded pair...yet. They are both out and about today and I see him eating, but she hides whenever I approach the tank.

reefkeeper2

01/09/2008, 06:36 PM

As of today, the female still runs for cover whenever I enter the room. I have not seen her eat. The male is eating well and will come out of hiding when the food enters the tank.

Fish.Nemo

01/10/2008, 05:10 AM

nice!

summer6

01/10/2008, 07:20 AM

I wouldn't be concerned yet (less than one week?)about the female not eating yet. The male trigger may be intimidating the female, and it will take her longer to venture out and eat. If she continues would you try some liquid garlic on the food to entice her?

reefkeeper2

01/10/2008, 11:25 AM

I think she intimidates the male! She is larger. She has a hiding place behind the gigantea anemone. Whenever she sees me, she's off like a shot . She looks nice and fat and healthy. She might be eating on the other side of the tank where I can't see her. There's no way to know for sure. Time will tell. I'll try and get a better pic of her.

invincible569

01/10/2008, 11:50 AM

TOTM

reefkeeper2

01/10/2008, 12:04 PM

Here they are. She doesn't look larger than the male in this pic. Pardon the salt on the acrylic surface. I had to sneak up on em.http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0280.JPG

jnarowe

01/10/2008, 12:54 PM

They look great. And all those pretty zoos to eat...I am sure they will be very happy in your system. :D

reefkeeper2

01/10/2008, 02:22 PM

Bite your tongue! Havn't seen any nibbling yet.

steve the plumb

01/10/2008, 02:34 PM

They won't pic on corals I have had both male and female along with a pink tale and the ******.The ****** is a hit and miss.The blue throats are very shy.They won't bother other fish.I don't know once they get larger if they may eat hermits and snails.My ****** did eat one of my snails(I had only 4).The blue throats are very passive fish.

summer6

01/10/2008, 03:37 PM

They're a beautiful pair, makes me wish I still had my bluethroat. The female looks very healthy!

reefkeeper2

01/10/2008, 05:41 PM

She ate this afternoon. She rushed out, snapped up some mysis, then swam back into the rockwork.

jnarowe

01/10/2008, 09:41 PM

nice work...glad to hear that.

summer6

01/11/2008, 08:30 AM

hooray!!

RayAllen

01/11/2008, 11:37 AM

Beautiful tank. Belongs with the best of the best.

reefkeeper2

01/11/2008, 03:22 PM

Wow, thank you very much.

ReefEnabler

01/11/2008, 05:19 PM

stunning. excellent tank, and the placement in such an open room with so much greenery really makes it.

right now i'm stuck putting a big tank in a small dining room.... but if I ever were to build my dream house.......................

btw, this deserves TOTM someday soon :) never can rush it though since its only getting better with time.

summer6

01/11/2008, 06:55 PM

reefkeeper2 - your tank is insipiring me to build a "dream system." It certainly ranks with other TOTM club. I'm certainly not complaining about my current tank (love it) but we may possibly be building a dream house, and if so, I would really like to have a free standing tank . If it ends up happening, I hope you wouldn't mind some more questions regarding the logistics of setting up this type of system.

reefkeeper2

01/11/2008, 07:56 PM

I wouldn't mind at all. That's why we're all here. To share our knowledge and experiences and to help each other out. Oh, and have a good time too.:D

summer6

01/12/2008, 08:35 AM

^^^Thanks

Elliott

01/13/2008, 09:37 PM

reefkeeper2: since your "new" saltwater is constantly being made to replace losses, do you skim wet causing more waste export replaced with new saltwater?

in other words, by skimming wet would it not cause a higher volume of new replacement water and hence result is a lower nutrient system?

erics3000

01/14/2008, 01:30 AM

great updates. Love your tank..

chudly

01/14/2008, 08:35 AM

I'm just wondering if the stand was made by u or did u have someone build it for u?
Are the cinder blocks just sitting on top of each other without any adhesive or cement. It looks like a very clean setup.

VERY IMPRESSIVE. SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.

summer6

01/14/2008, 08:38 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11512518#post11512518 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
I had to change the lighting orientation because the corals were growing up and inwards, instead of up and out. I also added 4 Finnex fixtures (24watt t5) to extend lighting to the farther reaches of the tank. The change has worked well. Here a few pics of the lighting, and the fixtures I built to hang the maristars and finnex from.http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-lights.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-lights2.jpg

Did you design the two brackets (very attractive) mainly as the source to "plug in" the lighting, or do they also serve another purpose - like moving the lights forward and backward?

summer6

01/14/2008, 08:43 AM

^^^ the t5 lights seem to be directly attached to the white fixture. Is that how they come, or did you modify the finnex fixtures with the metal (looks like they are bendable) piping that attaches above.
Hope you get the idea of what I'm asking.

Reef Man

01/14/2008, 01:53 PM

Hi reefkeeper2

Very nice tank !!!

where can I see the specifications of it and all your equipment ?
Do you have a web page?

It is definitive, it must be a TOTM.

Any picture of it where it was placed there before fill it?

reefkeeper2

01/14/2008, 03:39 PM

I do skim wet but that shouldn't effect the replacement rate because of the way I have set up the dialyseas. The dialyseas is set to replace a specific amount of water daily. It will add salt if the specific gravity falls. If I placed the float switch of the unit in my sump, then it would effect the replacement rate in the manner you describe. As the water level drops (because of wet skimming), the dialyseas would replace it. I have the unit set up a little different than recommended. I do not have the float switch in my sump. I have it in a seperate rubbermaid container. The dialyseas keeps that container full of RO/DI water. I then have a litre meter pull water from that reservoir thru a kalk stirrer and then into the sump. This allows me to use kalkwater for all top-off. A definate plus.
In regards to the stand, I had a mason come in and cement the cinderblocks together. I just didn't feel comfortable doing that myself. He also placed the steal screws in the cement that would hold the steal I beams in place. I placed the I beams and the plywood with the help of a friend. When the floor was tiled, I had the tile guy tile up the cinder blocks as well. I did the grouting and all the woodwork. I didn't want the stand to overpower the tank or the room, but to blend in.
I made the lighting brackets so that I would have some flexibility
on where the lights would hang. Yes, they can be moved forward or back, or be turned. I bought gooseneck lamp parts and drilled a hole in the Finnex fixture and attached them with a bolt. They can be moved aside easily when I want to get into the tank. It was easy to do.
Thank you for the compliments and the TOTM mention. I don't have a website of my own but photos where taken this weekend by the Boston Reefers Society and will be posted on their website soon. There will be lots of info and pics and maybe that can answer some of your questions on the specs. I'll post a link here when that happens. In the meantime if there is anything specific you want to know, just ask.

SaraB

01/14/2008, 04:38 PM

Your tank is stunning and I love the setting in the sunroom as well. I followed your previous thread and appreciate the updated photo's ... keep them coming please! I have my little piece of the ocean being built now by Envision too ... a 300 gallon.

reefkeeper2

01/14/2008, 05:07 PM

You won't be disappointed with a tank made by James!

SaraB

01/14/2008, 05:39 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11599610#post11599610 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
You won't be disappointed with a tank made by James!

That's what I have heard and seen! Some of my friends have his tanks and they are beautiful! We are wrapping up the last hole placement and the construction starts right away!

monti1

01/14/2008, 06:27 PM

Reefkeeper,

your tank is absolulty beautiful. I saw a picture of it a few months back at Barry's ( fintatsic). I thought there was a thread on it here. Glad I found it. Keep up the great work. Deff tank of the month in the making!

Rick

Carnavor180

01/14/2008, 06:35 PM

the tank setting is sweet, have you ever tryed a longnose filefish?

reefkeeper2

01/14/2008, 06:39 PM

No I havn't. I really don't know much about them.

reefkeeper2

01/14/2008, 06:41 PM

Rick, I havn't been to fintastic in many weeks. How is Barry doing? I have to get down there.

monti1

01/14/2008, 08:07 PM

I havent been there in a while either. I will be down there at somepoint this weekend.

Reef Man

01/15/2008, 09:37 AM

reefkeeper2:

Do you have a picture of your tank during the night, just with the artificial lighting turned on?

Thanks !

reefkeeper2

01/15/2008, 11:33 AM

no, I don't have one at night. Actually, I work second shift so the first opportunity I will have to take one will be friday. I'll do it then.

Reef Man

01/15/2008, 01:31 PM

Thanks !

johnjr

01/18/2008, 02:35 AM

How often do you have to replace the dialysis membrane?

johnjr

01/18/2008, 11:09 AM

You already awnsered that question. Sorry.
3 to 4 months. That's not too bad.
Do you ever do gravel vac's on the main tank once and a while to remove detritus? If so, when you remove the water will the dailysea's top off what you've taken out and adjust the salinity?

reefkeeper2

01/18/2008, 11:59 AM

No, I don't vac the sandbed. If you have the dialyseas set up to replace your top off, yes it would replace the water lost when the level in your sump dropped.

reefkeeper2

01/18/2008, 05:11 PM

Here is the night pic I promised. I'll take another with just the t5s when the halides go out later.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-tank_at_night.jpg

jnarowe

01/18/2008, 05:21 PM

that rocks.

reefkeeper2

01/18/2008, 05:28 PM

some more..
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0293.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0294.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0296.jpg http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0295.jpg

summer6

01/18/2008, 06:08 PM

The night pic's look great. It does not seem like you've got much light bleeding into the room with those units. That's one concern I've got if moving to an open top and suspended lights. I don't want the light to be a "nuisance" and conflict with everything else that's going on with an open floor plan.

reefkeeper2

01/18/2008, 06:43 PM

I think that would depend on what you have in the room and what the height of the lights are. The lights over my tank are a little lower than my eye level. I'm about 5'10". If I raised them, the light would bother me. Not so much by lighting up the room (which it does) but by shining in my eyes. Keep that in mind when making your plans. If the top is open (no hood) you don't want the lights to be above your eyes. Make sure you take into account the height of the stand and the tank.

Chooch1

01/19/2008, 12:03 AM

Fantastic tank with tons of diversity. Love it. What species is the yellow damsel? Is it peaceful? How many fish do you have?

reefkeeper2

01/19/2008, 09:28 AM

I don't know what species it is and it loves to bite my hand. It doesn't hurt, but scares the crap out of me. There are three of them and they have calmed down quite a bit. They each have there territory and I have not seen them severly harrass any of the other fish. I don't think they would be a good addition for a smaller tank as it would bring out their territorial nastiness. There are approximately 30 fish in the tank. There are various anthias, tangs, angels, damsels, a huge foxface, a pair of blue throat triggers, a fat manderine and a pair of pink skunks (Fred and Ethel) who inhabit the s. gigantea.
Thank you for mentioning the diversity because that is my ultimate goal. Next to the rain forest, the tropical reef is the most diverse habitat on the planet. The goal I set for my tank is to represent a reef as best as I can. I don't wish it to be dominated by any particular species. This is a lot harder to do, but thats the challenge. I eventually want to attempt some of the non-photosynthetic octocorals, but I won't try until I feel the tank is fully mature. I have a theory that diversity plays a part in the sucessful keeping of these corals as proper feeding alone doesn't seem to make them thrive.
Here is a better pic of the yellow damsel. I took it first thing in the morning when the lights first came on.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-damsel.jpg

Chooch1

01/21/2008, 01:57 PM

Thanks for the info. Your tank has a very lush look that replicates natural diversity very effectively.

How do you keep the acrylic so clean and coraline agae-free? Do you have many scratches?

Also, what species of anthias do you have? Are you planning on adding any more fish?

thor32766

01/21/2008, 02:22 PM

wow your tank is gorgeous!

reefkeeper2

01/21/2008, 03:08 PM

I use a kent scaper, credit card and a toothbrush to get the coraline off. I have a scratch kit I bought heremicromesh (http://www.sisweb.com/micromesh/acrylic_plastic_hand_kits.htm) to get out scratches.
I'm thinking of getting a copperband butterfly next. The anthias are disbar, bartlett, and lyretail.

reefkeeper2

01/21/2008, 07:46 PM

Here's the night pic with T5 only.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-t52.jpg

jnarowe

01/21/2008, 07:50 PM

Mighty Magnets has a good scratch kit as well, and a special coraline pad I have yet to try. The scratch kit works well but is very simple in that it is really just a variety of fine sandpapers but going well finer than anything commonly available. Even finer than what micro-mesh sells.

Reef Man

01/21/2008, 08:35 PM

nice reefkeeper2 !!!

I really appreciate your pictures.

Very nice, It must be a TOTM.

Kent E

01/21/2008, 09:44 PM

My favorite tank setting of all-time. Very nice. TOTM for sure.

deeznuts

01/22/2008, 04:27 AM

by far the best looking tank in reef central!

reefkeeper2

01/22/2008, 10:10 AM

Thanks so much everyone for all the nice comments. Positive feeback from your peers is always the best compliment!
Jnarowe, I have never heard of Mighty Magnets. I'll have to take a look at them.

jnarowe

01/22/2008, 10:57 AM

Got their name from Steve Weast. He uses their internal scratch kit.

reefkeeper2

01/22/2008, 06:24 PM

I already have a good magnet cleaner but those pads sound like an improvement over the micro mesh sheets. I wonder if I could use their pads with my magnet?

jnarowe

01/22/2008, 07:44 PM

That's what I do. I have a couple of Tiger Sharks and I use the Mighty Magnets stuff with them.

reefkeeper2

01/23/2008, 06:33 PM

What size pad do you use? I was thinking of trying one of the larger ones.

jnarowe

01/23/2008, 07:02 PM

I have never bought individual pads from them, but I am about to get some of the Algae Dozer pads to try them out. I'll probably just get the extra large and cut a couple out of that.

reefkeeper2

01/25/2008, 02:32 PM

I just ordered the 5X7 kit. I'll let you know how it works.

jnarowe

01/25/2008, 04:56 PM

Yeah? Cool. I have a scratch kit and it works well. I just ordered the coraline pads and some algae socks to see how those work too.

When you get the kit, you will crap because it's such a simple idea. But to be honest, I have never found some of the finer grit sandpapers to make my own.

cbui2

01/25/2008, 05:11 PM

your display looks awesome reefkeeper2,
J so all you have to do is attached the scratch kit to your previous magnet cleaner? will it work on magnavore 10

reefkeeper2

01/25/2008, 05:28 PM

I'm hoping so. I can't see why it won't. I will post how it works when I get it sometime next week.

jnarowe

01/25/2008, 05:51 PM

Bart, I am sure it will work with just about any magnet system, although the pads are a bit thicker than the usual algae pads. It's really just thick pads with sandpaper glued to it, but before you try to make it yourself, I suggest buying one. I have access to all sorts of suppliers and have never been able to find sandpaper that fine.

reefkeeper2

02/01/2008, 10:29 AM

I just got my scratch kit from Mighty Magnets and I'm more than just a bit disappointed. I bought the 5x8 pads. Here's one of the pads I got.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-pad.jpg
Save your money folks. Two or three small strips of micro mesh glued to a filter pad. Going to call and see if I can get my money back.

jnarowe

02/01/2008, 10:44 AM

I sort of thought the same thing when I first got mine but I bought it just to check out what it was. Then I tried to find that same paper but couldn't. Not even from micro mesh. The finest in my kit is 12,000. Can you find that paper?

You bought too large of a size IMO. I would cut that in half myself. But there should be about 8 - 10 different grits. I have been happy with mine but I agree that the price is a little steep. The thing is, it is more about the labor and material availability.

I did just find the 12000 on their site and they want $12 for one sheet. The Micro Mesh site is very difficult to use.

reefkeeper2

02/01/2008, 10:54 AM

The micro mesh kit I have has paper with grit that fine. I really feel ripped off by this. At least if the grit paper went to the edges of the pad! This won't go to the edges of my tank. I suppose I could take the micro mesh that I have and glue it to their pads and I would have what I was looking for. I can't decide whether to send it all back or try improvising. There is only 12 square inches of sanding surface on a 37.5 square inch pad. :mad:

jnarowe

02/01/2008, 11:01 AM

yeah, so that is true AND a little strange, but based on the prices for the paper, it's probably the only way Mighty Magnets could make a profit. I cut my pads down to size.

Had Sherman over last night and showed him how the coraline scraper pad works. I think that is a dream come true. I guess the real issue is the cost of the micro mesh paper. The 12000 in a 6" x 25' roll costs over $100.

I knew it was going to be an issue when I bought it, but I wanted to see how they made it so I could DIY it myself, but then trying to source the paper became a problem.

reefkeeper2

02/01/2008, 11:23 AM

I just called them and got an explanation. Evidently the grit paper will adhere to the acylic if there is too much surface area on it and make it impossible to move the magnet. The lower the grit, the more difficult it becomes. That is why there is less and less grit paper on the pads.
After testing them out I found this to be true. I think then however the product is over priced considering the amount of grit paper you actually get. It does however work, so I will not complain further.
Here (http://www.sisweb.com/micromesh/acrylic_plastic_hand_kits.htm) you can get 6x12 sheets of the paper your looking for but it comes with a kit. I am sure you could call and inquire. A 25 foot roll is a bit much:p

jnarowe

02/01/2008, 11:36 AM

But that kit is $86. You do get a lot more paper than in the Mighty Magnets kit, but then you would have to deal with cutting and gluing it to pads.

I don't like buying kits either because often I don't use half the grits. I am sure one of us will find the most financially efficient way to do this! But if you only use the 12000 then the roll might make sense. They also discuss that their super algae socks help buff the glass... I'll be trying that out this weekend.

paulthomas

02/15/2008, 01:45 AM

Hey, can I get a look at this tank sometime? I can swing by with my decent camera and take crappy pics if you like? LMK.

- P@#!

;)

reefkeeper2

02/15/2008, 09:43 AM

About time you showed up!

paulthomas

02/15/2008, 12:05 PM

Yeah P, I'm a paying member too! ;)

Hey, after seeing your tank and another member's tank, I decided to be irresponsible and take the plunge into a 225 Starphire tank yesterday. :D

reefkeeper2

02/15/2008, 12:30 PM

Good man! Welcome to the big tank club.

paulthomas

02/15/2008, 12:32 PM

Well it's not here yet. But I'm honored just the same. :D Now all I need is one of those DialySeas (sp?). How bout you give me yours for my birthday?

reefkeeper2

02/15/2008, 12:58 PM

I think I already promised it to Joe Scavo (scavdog) the last time he was here. :D Besides, you wouldn't want my old one when the new models have so many more toys on them.

paulthomas

02/15/2008, 08:39 PM

Oh, so they came down in price too? :rolleyes:

SSpiro

05/27/2008, 10:10 AM

Wow...AMAZING..

ziyaadb

05/27/2008, 02:30 PM

FANTASTIC man, if i ever hit the jackpot will strive for a tank like yours

reefkeeper2

05/27/2008, 06:47 PM

Thanks! I appreciate it. When you get compliments from your peers, you really know you have accomplished something.

Harlequinreef

05/27/2008, 10:48 PM

its awesome how healthy all the difficult-to-keep corals and nems are

reefkeeper2

05/28/2008, 09:23 AM

I'm trying a new experiment with continous feeding to see if I can keep some non-photosynthetic species in the same tank with sps.
I use a syringe pump and have been trying different foods with different time intervals of feeding. It's to soon to tell about the nps corals, but the softies and sps have responded nicely to the influx of food.

ReefEnabler

05/28/2008, 12:32 PM

sounds cool.
would you mind providing more details on what kind of "syringe" pump you are using?

reefkeeper2

05/28/2008, 02:45 PM

Here (http://syringepump.com/NE-300.htm) is where I got the syringe pump.

Sango-chu

06/11/2008, 06:49 PM

bump

scav1180

06/11/2008, 07:02 PM

damn this tank looks nice

reefkeeper2

06/11/2008, 08:56 PM

Thanks! Here is a pic (not so good) of one of the nps corals I'm trying to keep. I have had it about 2 months and it seems to be doing well. If I still have it and it's grown some in the next year I think I can claim success. I also have a sclero, a blueberry gorgonian and a dendronepthea of some kind. The dendro will be a real challenge. So far the sps are still happy and in good color.

http://http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0754.JPG

reefkeeper2

06/11/2008, 09:01 PM

oops, try again
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0754.JPG

seawandrr

06/12/2008, 03:18 AM

I'd be interested in hearing about what foods you're experimenting with for the continous dosing...

~K

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12629385#post12629385 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefkeeper2
I'm trying a new experiment with continous feeding to see if I can keep some non-photosynthetic species in the same tank with sps.
I use a syringe pump and have been trying different foods with different time intervals of feeding. It's to soon to tell about the nps corals, but the softies and sps have responded nicely to the influx of food.

reefkeeper2

06/12/2008, 08:31 AM

I'm trying out combinations of fauna marin ultra seafan and ultra min, along with algamac 3000, GP reef and larval fish diet, and freeze -dried rotifers. I also have been using reeds shellfish diet off and on. I really want to find a dry food combination that I can make a batch of, store in the fridge and use for a week or so.
It's difficult, because it takes a long time to see if a food is working out well and there is a lot of guesswork with concentration and dosage . I feed at night only now, because I found that my skimmer shuts down when this food is present in the water. I also did not like the hazy look of things during the day. I think the sps need to have a 12 hour period of high water quality as well. The amount of black smelly stuff the skimmer removes during this time is amazing.

ajroy03

06/12/2008, 03:58 PM

I Love this tank! what are the dimensions? I dont think ive seen any posted. Also, for the overflow to! thx

reefkeeper2

06/12/2008, 05:14 PM

84L X 36W X 30H with a center overflow that is 8" x 12"

reefkeeper2

06/13/2008, 02:29 PM

Here is a pic I took today. I think you can see the growth compared to previous pics. The softies are really exploding. I am planning on some new aquascaping. In the back left corner on the other side I want to make an area for sps only.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0758.JPG

reefkeeper2

06/13/2008, 02:39 PM

This is the area I want to change. It's hard to tell from the photo and sorry for the glare (so much sunlight in the room) but there is really a lot of wasted space here. The green monti you see is actually on a pillar that rises straight up. Behind it there is an arch. It looks nice, but if I remove it I could have a lot of space for coral. I think it a good spot for a forrest of sps!
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3140mini-IMG_0759.JPG

Goodwin9

06/13/2008, 03:00 PM

Gorges pictures! WOW :eek1:

Bfritzsch

07/04/2008, 07:15 AM

WHat type of anemone is that? ( green one ) Sorry probably been asked like 20 times, looks kinda like a carpet or saddle nem

reefkeeper2

07/04/2008, 08:44 AM

It's a S. gigantea carpet.

Bfritzsch

07/04/2008, 09:02 AM

THanks, Everything looks amazing!

reefkeeper2

07/04/2008, 11:36 AM

A friend just gave me 6 juvenile skunks to add to my breeding pair last weekend. It looks awesome with all the fish happily swimming in it. There are some pics of it here (http://picasaweb.google.com/FlightyMail/PaulSTank)

jnarowe

07/04/2008, 11:55 AM

wow, that's cool.

summer6

07/06/2008, 12:34 PM

Your tank has matured so beautifully in a short time. You must be doing multiple things well for such a healthy looking tank.
I love seeing the family of skunk clowns in the giant carpet. I had a carpet anemone that I had to bring back to the lfs because i discovered it ate a couple of fish (one of them in action).
Keep us updated....thanks.

reefkeeper2

07/06/2008, 05:36 PM

I have lost a few fish to carpet anemones, but it's almost always to the haddoni variety. I don't know why but they seem more adebt at catching prey than the gigantea. I had a beautiful purple haddoni that was particularly lethal. It did not survive the move into this tank two years ago. I still have an olive green haddoni that I will probably remove when I get the chance.
Thanks you for the great compliments. It's often hard for me to see the changes in the tank because I see it every day.