The Brown's 72g AGA Bowfront - 1st Tank

[The_Browns]

We are new to the hobby and have been getting setup for about 4 months now. I have installed the RODI system, storage tanks, built a custom Sump/Refug system and now we are putting water and sand in the tank. Here are some pictures.

The RO/DO and storage tank system.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank009.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank010.jpg

Next is my Wet/Dry filter turned into a sump with my custom refugium system.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank003.jpg

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Live rock will be going into the sump where you see the egg crate.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank008.jpg

Pics of the RO/Di water going into the tank.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank001.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank002.jpg

More coming soon.

[The_Browns]

Alright we put salt and sand in the tank and this is what I am getting after 24 hours.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank.jpg


This picture was from 2 days ago and it has started to clear a little. I will put another pic up tonight after I get home. It's still not clear though.

[OranguTang]

Great start, cant wait to see how this turns out! Are you going to buy LR or do you plan on curing LR in the tank?

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11504709#post11504709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
Great start, cant wait to see how this turns out! Are you going to buy LR or do you plan on curing LR in the tank?

We have 50lbs of Premium Fiji live rock coming today, Well should be here today. We will be putting it in the tank after a little spray from the hose.

[OranguTang]

Sweet, what do you plan for your stocking list and corals?

[The_Browns]

We aren't exactly sure yet.

I think our corals will be mostly LPS and we really like the different varieties of tangs. We see so many cool fish when we go to the lfs we just want one of everything ;) But it took us 4 months to get water in the tank...I think we will have plenty of time to generate a list of fish and coral. :)

We will let you know as soon as we decide!!

[Roy G. Biv]

What is this clear section all the way to the left??

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank004.jpg

[OranguTang]

Just looks like some tubing connecting the drain to me.

What tangs are you looking at? You will be limited with a tank that size.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11504880#post11504880 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pmolan
What is this clear section all the way to the left??

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank004.jpg

I really did not want to glue anthing to the sump in case I want to sell it later so I found some thick clear rubber tubing at Lowes that worked perfectly. This way I can remove the sump any time. It took a while to get it slid on there. It was a tight fit. Most important --> No leaks...

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11504909#post11504909 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
What tangs are you looking at? You will be limited with a tank that size.

Yeah...we are going to have to do some research. We like the blue hippo tangs but who knows we may do something different all together.

[BangkokMatt]

Looking good. Has the water cleared yet

[kc9dre]

You need to change that electrica outlet to a GFI!!!! Trust me on this one...

I had a small issue with water making contact with wall ran down and mmade this cool sizzleing sound..... vvvvzzzzzzttttt!!!

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11505129#post11505129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kc9dre
You need to change that electrica outlet to a GFI!!!! Trust me on this one...

I had a small issue with water making contact with wall ran down and mmade this cool sizzleing sound..... vvvvzzzzzzttttt!!!
Yes I have a GFI outlet just have to put it in, I should do that, thanks for the reminder! :rollface:

[mille239]

despite the tight fit of that clear section of hose, I'd still put some clamps on the connections.... just so I (you) can sleep better at night. :)

good job so far!

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11505720#post11505720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mille239
despite the tight fit of that clear section of hose, I'd still pot some clamps on the connections.... just so I (you) can sleep better at night. :)

good job so far!

Excellent idea, I will do that.

[not_sponsored]

You could also try a union

[The_Browns]

Alright this is what the tank looks like when I came home from work.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank13.jpg

Looks like it is clearing up

[The_Browns]

We also got the live rock in today, Got some nice pieces, 50lbs. We are looking for another 50lbs. So we rinsed them off and my wife put them in the tank.

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[The_Browns]

Woke up this morning and the tank was pretty much clear. Just some particles floating around. We are going to put on a filter sock and most likely keep it on to increase water clarity.

[The_Browns]

Alright when I got up this morning the tank was ALOT clearer

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank16.jpg

I also added some clamps on my clear hose thats going into my sump

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank17.jpg

I did not like the silcone that I used to mount the runoff from the fuge so I got a bulkhead and redid that setup

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank18.jpg

[The_Browns]

Added more water and got my fuge filled. I dont have the stuff to make up the fuge yet, will this weekend hopefully. I just wanted to get the right amount of water to get the salinity that I want. Right now just a hair below 1.02 the minimum

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank19.jpg

And the sump in action. Still going to be putting live rock in the empty space on the left, where the bio would normally go in the wet/dry filter.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank20.jpg

So now cycling begins.

[otiso777]

Looks good. Putting those clamps on was a good decision. Are you planning on keeping the S.G. at 1.02 or are you going to raise it to the NSW value of 1.025?

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11519007#post11519007 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by otiso777
Looks good. Putting those clamps on was a good decision. Are you planning on keeping the S.G. at 1.02 or are you going to raise it to the NSW value of 1.025?

We are raising it.. Still adding a little salt at a time

[OranguTang]

I would not recommend adding the LR to the bio ball compartment. Any media that goes there will be equal to bio balls since it is a trickle filter and not fully submerged. Basically anything you put there could become a nitrate factory.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11519067#post11519067 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
I would not recommend adding the LR to the bio ball compartment. Any media that goes there will be equal to bio balls since it is a trickle filter and not fully submerged. Basically anything you put there could become a nitrate factory.

What difference does it make if I put live rock in the bio ball compartment or in the tank itself?

[Inigma]

I think mostly the difference is that the water mostly just trickles through that area.

IMO, Best bet for that sump would be to use it as just that, a sump for extra water, heater maybe, and your protein skimmer. Also a good place to through a bag of carbon if you wanna run carbon in your system. I would just add a couple chunks of live rock, sand and whatever into the 10g fuge.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11519320#post11519320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Inigma
I think mostly the difference is that the water mostly just trickles through that area.

IMO, Best bet for that sump would be to use it as just that, a sump for extra water, heater maybe, and your protein skimmer. Also a good place to through a bag of carbon if you wanna run carbon in your system. I would just add a couple chunks of live rock, sand and whatever into the 10g fuge.

If thats the case, what can I put there to take the noise down? The tank is to loud with the water dripping that far.

[OranguTang]

You could redesign the plumbing a bit. Keep the LR in your refugium, not in the wet/dry. The problem with the media being exposed to air is the bacteria that colonizes the surface can convert ammonia to nitrate more quickly than it can be de-nitrified.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11519572#post11519572 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
You could redesign the plumbing a bit. Keep the LR in your refugium, not in the wet/dry. The problem with the media being exposed to air is the bacteria that colonizes the surface can convert ammonia to nitrate more quickly than it can be de-nitrified.

Any suggestion on redesigning the plumbing

[OranguTang]

Idealy you would re plumb the drain to come into the top of the tank and then bring it down into the water column. If you dont want to do that or you dont want to drill the top of the sump you can just add a 90 to the existing drain and then bring it down into the water column. But with all those 90's you are losing a lot of flow.

[LobsterOfJustice]

I saw you put hose clamps on the drain side, but did you also put some on the return side? This is even more important because this side is pressurized. Even if the hoses stay on for months, they can blow off eventually (speaking from experience).

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11519684#post11519684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LobsterOfJustice
I saw you put hose clamps on the drain side, but did you also put some on the return side? This is even more important because this side is pressurized. Even if the hoses stay on for months, they can blow off eventually (speaking from experience).

Good point, I will get a clamp for the return side aswell

Thanks

[NealNano]

You should really think about getting a better skimmer. The one you have is a piece of junk. It works but not very well.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11520740#post11520740 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NealNano
You should really think about getting a better skimmer. The one you have is a piece of junk. It works but not very well.

I adjusted the skimmer, raised the tube and its working great now.

[The_Browns]

Alright I tested the salinity and I am at 1.25. that/'s ideal right?

[The_Browns]

I was wondering how much flow we are going to need for our tank. We are putting 50 more lbs of live rock in it soon. The retyrn is about 500 gph and we have one Koralia #2 it the tank.

We were going to replace the #2 with 2 #3's. What does everything think or give your suggestion please.

[OranguTang]

All depends on your plans for the tank. 1.025 is fine, most keep their tanks at .024-.026

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11542801#post11542801 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
All depends on your plans for the tank. 1.025 is fine, most keep their tanks at .024-.026

We will be doing a mixed reef tank. Some lps and sps

[OranguTang]

I think a couple koralia 3's would work fine. Possibly #4's. I have 2x#3 in my 60 cube. You could also look at the Tunze's if you want to spend more. I plan on getting the Tunze's ASAP. Koralias were just a temp. solution until my sump and skimmer got here.

[The_Browns]

So Jedi, you don't think 2 #4's is to much flow?

[mako417]

You can never have to much flow!!

[OranguTang]

I had a single #4 in my 60L (4' long) and I had flow all across the tank, back when I had LPS and it worked great. If I did it again I would have gone 2 of the #3's, maybe even #2's if all I was doing was LPS and softies. The flow was too strong for my bubble on one end of the tank, there was basically nothing there but a montipora.

[The_Browns]

Well it sounds like I should go with 2 #3's

[The_Browns]

Question: The tank has been cycling for a week, Is it ok to go ahead and put Chaeto in the fuge or should I wait until after cycling?

[NanoGurl]

Looks good! I like the LR :thumbsup:

[The_Browns]

Alright not much to update. I got the sand in the fuge. So I wanted to upload a pic of that. Also I am picking up some Chaeto on Friday and will install the fuge light.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank23.jpg

[The_Browns]

Not that much to update except I picked up some Chaeto for the fuge and installed a light. Just wanted to post a pic.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank25.jpg

[NanoGurl]

What light did you go with?

[The_Browns]

I went with a UV 850 kelvins light. 60w -> 14w. I heard I should go with about 1500+ kelvins so I might be changing it.

[Ziggy953]

For a mixed reef you will want 20-30x turn over in your tank. As in 20-30x72 = the amount of gph flow in the tank. I ahve the same tank you do. I have 1200gph return with 2 Tunze Nano streams at 660 each and a Mag7 on a SCWD closed loop for flow in my tank. I have a lot of SPS and LPS corals in my tank. The wet/dry that you have I started off with one similar to it and got rid of it when I started adding corals. I just didn't like the way it worked. I ended up converting my sytem to a 20g tall tank as my fuge and a 10g tank as my return I scrapped the wet/dry all together and it is sitting collecting dust. If you would like I will gladly post some pics of my system

[steelerguy]

Is that light just resting on the top of the fuge? If so, I would attach it to the stand somehow and elevate it a bit so you can reach in there. If you don't attach it, something, probably yourself when working in the stand, is going to knock it into the fuge creating an unpleasant situation.

I would also shoot for a color temperature of 6500 K or so for your fuge light.

[Ziggy953]

I agree on the 6500K great grow temp!

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11586008#post11586008 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by steelerguy
Is that light just resting on the top of the fuge? If so, I would attach it to the stand somehow and elevate it a bit so you can reach in there. If you don't attach it, something, probably yourself when working in the stand, is going to knock it into the fuge creating an unpleasant situation.


No, the light is clipped on!

[The_Browns]

These are my params at about 10 days of cycling.

pH: 7.8
Ammonia: 0
Trite: 1.0
Trate: 10
Calcium: 480
SG: 1.025
kH: 12
GH: 214.8

I don't really understand the Carbonate Hardness and General Hardness. The LFS said it replaces the Alk test. Is this true?

[otiso777]

Alkalinity is the same as carbonate hardness. The general hardness test takes into account calcium, magnesium, and alkalinity. Since calcium and magnesium are tested for separately by aquarists, general hardness is not usually tested for in the hobby.

[volunteerguy]

I agree with upgrading your skimmer...I had the same one on my 75 and switched to an Octopus..HUGE difference in the amount of junk it pulls out of the system, especially if you're wanting to do a mixed reef.

Good start!

[The_Browns]

Any recommendations on skimmer for my 72g

[Justinandkrista]

RS 100 for skimmer

[sharko88]

Aaaa... The joys of setting up a new tank.

[The_Browns]

I am getting some skimmate from my skimmer. It seems to be working fine but yet a few are saying to upgrade. How much should I spend on a used RS 100. I know someone who might be selling one locally.

[96vette]

Tank looks nice, I especially like your sump design with the fuge. I want to add a fuge to mine and I may do something similar to yours. I'm also using a Coralife super skimmer which has been doing a good job.


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[johnnyguitars]

wasting money putting l/r in the sump. There is no need for it.

[sm51498]

That depends on what you are trying to achieve with that LR. Folks running duplex filter systems and people with minimal LR in their display would argue with you. I personally run it in my sump and believe strongly in the benefits of it.

[The_Browns]

A little update. I just got my 2 x Koralia #3's in and put them in my tank.

2 x Koralia #3's @ 850 gph each
1 x Koralia #1 @ 450 gph
450 gph on my return

Total flow = 2600 gph

On another note, I put crumble rock into my Fuge but none in my Sump

[The_Browns]

Its been a few days since I added the Chaeto to my fuge. Now my sand bed is purple. What is this. I also notice lots of bubble on the sand bed and the purple stuff end up floating to the top. What is this? Is it safe if it gets into my main tank?

[otiso777]

Cyanobacteria maybe. A picture would help

[NanoGurl]

+1

[ReefGirlSara]

Looking very nice!! I would guess cyano as well. You can suck it out with a turkey baster or syphon hose if that's what it is.

Pretty Live Rock! Any good LFS's near you? I'm about 1.5 hours north west of you. I actually lived in Clermont for a while and went to school for a year in Winter Garden...(7th grade) ahh, the memories. lol. Nice build thread though!

[The_Browns]

I will put a picture up when I get home today.

ReefGirlsSara: Thanks, Actually all the LFS really are not that great. All I have been to all the fish have ick.

[The_Browns]

Here it is.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank27.jpg

[Roy G. Biv]

Cyanobacteria. The tank is still cycling. It should pass as long as you arent adding phosphates.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11615689#post11615689 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pmolan
Cyanobacteria. The tank is still cycling. It should pass as long as you arent adding phosphates.

What creates phosphates

[uncleant]

nice

[otiso777]

Phosphates in your tank come from food and dead plants or animals.

The cyano isn't a big deal. Most tanks get it after just being set up. It'll probably go away once the system becomes stable.

[Roy G. Biv]

In the next few weeks, not right now, pick up a phosban reactor and phosban. After the tank becomes stable after the 6 weeks and you see that starting up again, run the reactor for a day or 2 or forever (I do) and it goes away. When I see a spot of cyno in my tank, I know its time to replace the phosban.
Algae needs (Phosphate or Nitrates) + Light. By limiting one or all of these you will have little or no algae outbreaks.

[The_Browns]

I will wait on the phosban reactor until after my tank is stable. If I still have the Cyano, I will pick up one. Should I worry about my main tank, I have about 2600+ gph of flow? Should I shut off the fuge?

[otiso777]

I wouldn't shut off the fuge. If anything, this will help your system stabilize. You'll probably get cyano in the display whether you shut off the fuge or not. Most people do when the tank is new.

[The_Browns]

Alright some updates. The tank is fully cycled as of last week. We had some minor setbacks but we are on track again :)


We did a few things to the tank lastnight

1.) Redone the aquascape. Looks much better with lots of caves and caverns. That took about 2 hours....

2.) We put in a cleanup crew

1 Serpent Star
1 Atlantic Cuc
1 Queen Conch
12 Red Legged Hermits
5 Astrea snails
5 Ceriths
5 Nassarius

We also have a pink/blue spotted watchman goby and 3 chromis in the DT. The goby loves his new home and has already found him a cave he likes to hide in.

I have pictures and I will post them once I get home from work today. Check back tonight for some pictures of the tank aquascape and the new fish and other tankmates.

[96vette]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11721446#post11721446 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The_Browns
Alright some updates. The tank is fully cycled as of last week. We had some minor setbacks but we are on track again :)


We did a few things to the tank lastnight

1.) Redone the aquascape. Looks much better with lots of caves and caverns. That took about 2 hours....

2.) We put in a cleanup crew

1 Serpent Star
1 Atlantic Cuc
1 Queen Conch
12 Red Legged Hermits
5 Astrea snails
5 Ceriths
5 Nassarius

We also have a pink/blue spotted watchman goby and 3 chromis in the DT. The goby loves his new home and has already found him a cave he likes to hide in.

I have pictures and I will post them once I get home from work today. Check back tonight for some pictures of the tank aquascape and the new fish and other tankmates.


If you don't already then it's a good idea to have a lid on the DT for gob's. I didn't have a lid on mine and my Pink Spotted Goby jumped to his death and others have had similar experiences.

[The_Browns]

As I promised, pictures:

New landscape with flash:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank35.jpg

My new Atlantic CUC:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank36.jpg

Serpent Star:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank37.jpg

Pink/Blue Watchman Goby:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank38.jpg

Rock work on right side without flash:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank39.jpg

Rock work on left side without flash:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank40.jpg

2 Chromis with a Toadstool Leather in the background.:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank43.jpg

I would show the Clarkii Clown and the Blue Damsel but I am still looking to get rid of those guys. they are hanging out in my fuge. The Blue damsel has taken a ride down the slip~n_slide a couple time, "from my fuge to my sumo through the piping... :)


Thats about all I have to update.

[NanoGurl]

Looks great! :thumbsup:

[iwishtofish]

Things are looking great! Love that goby!

[mille239]

I really like your rockwork! lots of place for corals, yet you left plenty of room for the fish to swim. great job!

I've never owened a cuke, but are you worried that your sandbed is too new to provide enogh food for him, of can you target feed them?

[The_Browns]

The clean-up crew is what the lfs suggested after I told them about my tank. They ask losts of question before they suggested the crew. I will keep a close eye on him though. If I see any spikes in my params I know he probably did not make it and to locate him and remove him.

[Chrisrush]

Same question about the goby. Hopefully he is eating prepared food and not only what he gathers out of the sandbed.

[The_Browns]

He is eating prepared food, It took him 2 days to start eating it while in the QT tank. He nibbles but is only getting better everyday.

[iwishtofish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11729677#post11729677 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The_Browns
He is eating prepared food, It took him 2 days to start eating it while in the QT tank. He nibbles but is only getting better everyday.

The_Browns, it took my diamond goby over a week to gain enough confidence in the tank to start eating aggressively enough. Part of the acclimation period, I think...

I know I have been overfeeding my tank to "train" this fish, and to make sure he gets enough to eat. :( Things are getting better, though. Keep us updated on your goby, et al!

[kar93]

Like the Rockwork

[The_Browns]

Thanks for the comments on the rockwork. We were going for a nice open look and lots of caves and caverns for fish to hide. We want to fish to have plenty of room to swim and have a place to hide. Another factor in the landscape was corals. With this look we have many areas to place corals.

[packer]

I would get rid of the cucumber. Your tank at this point does not have enough growth to support its eating. And you dont want it to die in the tank for sure. If you ever get a hair algae problem, you can always get another, but I dont see the need for one in your tank and its crashing the system is not worth the risk.

[The_Browns]

Would it be safe to put the CUC in my fuge, there is lots of cyano, will he take care of it?

[Ziggy953]

Things are looking good! I forgot to subscribe to your thread and follow along so I will make sure to do that now.

I have the same tank less the internal overflow (I wish I had it!) I love the tank it is more interesting then a standard tank. Although my wife and I are going to be upgrading our tank in the next few months.

Congrats!!

[The_Browns]

Thanks Ziggy.

[Ziggy953]

Here is what my 72 looks like as of a few days ago. I took this pic early in the day so the right MH wasn't on yet.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1997/1010040mediumin2.jpg

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11732385#post11732385 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The_Browns
Would it be safe to put the CUC in my fuge, there is lots of cyano, will he take care of it?

Anyone?

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11732767#post11732767 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ziggy953
Here is what my 72 looks like as of a few days ago. I took this pic early in the day so the right MH wasn't on yet.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1997/1010040mediumin2.jpg

Awesome tank

[packer]

The problem is that if they die or become scared they emit toxins that can crash a tank. Just one of those chance not to take things in my opinion. Only would use one to rid hair algae if a problem and then I would try to take it out after.

[Ziggy953]

Thanks!! We were out shopping for a new tank today and found the one we want. We have decided to go with an AGA RR 210. Lots to do now!

[The_Browns]

We got rid of the CUC and traded him for some more snails for the tank and we got in our Tunze ATO. Here are a few pictures

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank44.jpg

No more manual top offs :rollface:
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank45.jpg

Caught the starfish out and about so took a snapshot
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank46.jpg

[NanoGurl]

Awesome starfish! You'll love your Tunze ATO... mine works great!

[The_Browns]

Alright, I have done a lot of work on the tank trying to get it more automated and easy to control. We installed my Tunze ATO system. I will post pictures tomorrow.

I have also been working on a control panel all weekend so I could have everything on its own on/off switch and the lights on timers. So here is the progress:

The panel cut out and me putting in the switches and outlets.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank47.jpg

Made a box frame and used a grove this way the final panel with all the switches and outlets can slide into the frame. This show just shows one edge with the slot in it.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank48.jpg

After all outlets and switches have been installed. The wiring was done right after.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank49.jpg

A shot from the front after everything has been done.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank51.jpg

A shot of our labeling
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank52.jpg

This shot demonstrates how the front panel slid into the groves.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank53.jpg

I will show more shots of what we did for the ATO system tomorrow. I will also post pics of the final installation of the control panel.

[Ziggy953]

Wow that is a heck of a power panel! Nice job!!!

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11816157#post11816157 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ziggy953
Wow that is a heck of a power panel! Nice job!!!

Thanks Ziggy, I will post pictures tomorrow with it mounted.

[Ziggy953]

You have inspired me to do something similar. I have cords going everywhere and it is time to clean house!

[matrixpb03]

SWEET tank!!

[The Saltman]

I like the panel. Well organized.

[The_Browns]

Thanks everyone! Check back tonight and I will post pictures of it mounted behind my tank. Only the switches should be visible. Thats the plan anyways :)

[Roy G. Biv]

I was just skimming through this again and noticed something...

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank009.jpg

Whats your TDS after everything? I noticed there is no DI section. You can add that for 36 bux here http://www.thefilterguys.biz/di_systems.htm

That should keep you TDS at ZERO. High TDS can cause red slime if youre still having that problem.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11818618#post11818618 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pmolan

Whats your TDS after everything? I noticed there is no DI section.


The last container is DI, I have 0 TDS for production water.

[Roy G. Biv]

Ahhhhh it looks like 3 prefilters and a RO from here :)

[The_Browns]

Alright, we installed the control panel behind the tank and here is the result:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank54.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank55.jpg

[The_Browns]

We picked up some Zoa Polyps this weekend, here are a couple pics

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank56.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank57.jpg

[Roy G. Biv]

Wow.. Looks good, even matches the wall!! :)

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11827173#post11827173 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The_Browns
We picked up some Zoa Polyps this weekend, here are a couple pics

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank56.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank57.jpg

Found out what these are called thanks to ZoaID.com

the 1st picture is called Monster Lips and the 2nd Lord of the Rings

[Ziggy953]

That power panel looks great! I'm very impressed! Good job!

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11829476#post11829476 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ziggy953
That power panel looks great! I'm very impressed! Good job!

Thanks Ziggy!

[packer]

Panel looks good. How is the power supplied to it? Hopefully not from a single outlet on the wall. Is it on a GFI?

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11830242#post11830242 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by packer
Panel looks good. How is the power supplied to it? Hopefully not from a single outlet on the wall. Is it on a GFI?

Yes its hooked into a GFCI and that GFCI outlet has its own dedicated breaker so I dont think I have any worries.

[packer]

Just was hoping you are not pulling 8 outlets ( with ballasts for lights on some) thru 1 wall outlet.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11830448#post11830448 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by packer
Just was hoping you are not pulling 8 outlets ( with ballasts for lights on some) thru 1 wall outlet.

It is on one outlet but as long as my load does not exceed what the breaker calls for there is no problem.

[packer]

I am a Landscape contractor and a little weak on electrical, so you might want to pose your setup to an electrician. Your current setup is almost like plugging all your stuff into one extension cord so to speak. Just did not want you to torch anything, although the GFI should fix that, but dont want your system going down either. When I did a similar setup an electrician friend said it was best to run an independant 20amp supply line as the incoming power source right from the fuse box and thats how I went. The way your is its not from the switch out but all the watts being pulled thru the one supply line off one outlet, alot of heat thru one set of wires.

[The_Browns]

It's just like people using these power strips, nothing different. You just want to make sure to don't have a load higher than the breaker allows, If you do you trip a breaker.

[packer]

I understand, but I dont think I would put pumps, heaters, ballasts all on one eight space power strip. I could be wrong, just was advised different when I was going to do the same setup. Electricity can be an "invisable meanie" and do bad things quick so just wanted to draw your attention to it. Hopefull a true electrician can give some input for us.

[The_Browns]

A couple of better shots of our new Lords of the Rings and Monster Lip Zoas

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank58.jpg


They are purple under the actinics but when I take a picture they look blue.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank59.jpg

[The_Browns]

Just a little update. today we picked up 2 JBJ MH retro fit kits which we will be running 250W 14k bulbs and 2 VHO actinics retro fit kits with an Icecap ballast. Next weekend SkinnyJoe is coming over to help build and install the custom hanging light fixture. sps here we come..... :)

[Arati]

looks awsome great job all around!


Think about makeing the fuge sandbad 4-6" you get alot from a dsb.

[The_Browns]

We got a new fish for the tank, a baby Hippo. He has been in a QT for 6 days now and has been coming out and eating flake and brine shrimp. He is still timid and when we get to close to the QT he goes into his PVC hideout. He is doing much better than the 1st 24 hrs which he would not even eat.

We also got lots of new coral.

- Neon orange recordia with purple rim
- 1 polyp of Nuclear Greens Zoas
- about 20+ polyps of Wam'n Watermelon Zoas

I will get pictures of the coral up soon.

Here is a pic of the Hippo
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank66.jpg

Tang Police -------> http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/images.jpg

[Roy G. Biv]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Jobs_and_People/Police/Siren.gif

[The_Browns]

hehe Pmolan

[The_Browns]

A few poor shots of some new coral

Wham'n Watermelon Zoas (without flash with actinics)
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank67.jpg

Photoshop fun with the Wham'n Watermelons (With flash)
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank72.jpg

Orange w/purple rim/center Ric (Without flash with actinics)
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank68.jpg

Orange w/purple rim/center Ric (with Flash)
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank73.jpg

Nuclear Green Zoa
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank70.jpg

Photoshop fun with the Wham'n Watermelons
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank69.jpg

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11907447#post11907447 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The_Browns


Photoshop fun with the Wham'n Watermelons (With flash)
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank72.jpg



The title should be, "Wham's Watermelon Zoas (with flash)"

[The_Browns]

A couple updates. We have finished my new custom hanging light fixture running 2 JBJ K1 14k MH Retro fit kits and 2 VHO Super Blue Actinics running off of a 660 Icecap Ballast.

Icecap Ballast
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank84.jpg

MH Cords, one on each end
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank85.jpg

DIY Hanging kit, one on each end
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank86.jpg

MH Ballast
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank87.jpg

Full shot of underneath
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank88.jpg

One MH kit installed
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank89.jpg

[The_Browns]

We also got a pair of mated true black Percs, aqua cultured. Sorry the QT glass is dirty.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank81.jpg

Does anyone know what is going on with his/her head (I don't know which one is male/female). The other keeps biting her or whipping his/her tail at him/her.... :)

We have a few new Zoas: THESE ARE NOT UNDER THE NEW LIGHTS

PPE's without flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank79.jpg

With flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank80.jpg

RPE's without flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank83.jpg

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank82.jpg

[Ziggy953]

Looking good! I love the PPEs and the RPEs. I really want to get some but finding them near me at a price I can live with is hard to do!! Did you order those or get them from an LFS?

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12010945#post12010945 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ziggy953
Looking good! I love the PPEs and the RPEs. I really want to get some but finding them near me at a price I can live with is hard to do!! Did you order those or get them from an LFS?

I bought them from a user on RC that is local. I'll tell you what Zig, when I frag them I will contact you first how is that?

[Ziggy953]

That would be awesome!!! Thanks!

[The_Browns]

A little update. We finally got the custom Hanging Canopy installed. Only the VHO's are on in the pic.

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank90.jpg

[Roy G. Biv]

"Temperature is one of the most important factors to consider for your wine. The optimal storage temperature for white wines is 40 - 52 degrees and reds from 52 - 60 degrees. The low to mid 50's is best for both types of wine. While overall temperature is important, the stability of the temperature is even more important. A slow 10 degree swing in temperature between seasons is acceptable, but frequent and rapid fluctuations can severely damage wine. "


Is it about 95 degrees in that spot? :lol:

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12059941#post12059941 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pmolan

"Temperature is one of the most important factors to consider for your wine. The optimal storage temperature for white wines is 40 - 52 degrees and reds from 52 - 60 degrees. The low to mid 50's is best for both types of wine. While overall temperature is important, the stability of the temperature is even more important. A slow 10 degree swing in temperature between seasons is acceptable, but frequent and rapid fluctuations can severely damage wine. "


Is it about 95 degrees in that spot? :lol:

LOL, No Pmolan. The temperature is 82 in the water and a nice 76 outside the tank :)

[The_Browns]

A couple shots of the tank. one with actinics and the other with the MH

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank91.jpg

Sorry not that great of a shot. I will get a better one.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank92.jpg

All cords you see hanging from the light fixture will soon be organized and the part you see with be painted the same color as the wall, making the cords less noticeable.

[kar93]

The tank and canopy looks great, Nice work!

[NanoGurl]

Looks great!

[The_Browns]

The clown ended up getting Ich. They are still in QT. We finally got the salinity down to 1.010. One more water change at 1.008 and we will be at the target of 1.009. After that 3 weeks in Hypo and then slowly we will bring the salinity back up to 1.025 and then leave them in QT another 4 weeks.

[sk8rreefgeek]

nice choice on the blk/whites! :D ;)

hope they settle down

lookin great!

Dang, just saw the ick post. where did they come from? They're pretty hardy, they should be fine...

as far as male/female, the female should get biggerthan the male, and I've heard that the male will "twitch" when the female comes close. mine does lol

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12091473#post12091473 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sk8rreefgeek
nice choice on the blk/whites! :D ;)

hope they settle down

lookin great!

Dang, just saw the ick post. where did they come from? They're pretty hardy, they should be fine...

as far as male/female, the female should get biggerthan the male, and I've heard that the male will "twitch" when the female comes close. mine does lol

I don't know how they got ich. They were healthy when we got them. They are aquacultured and everything. The female is bigger than the male. They both dance when they get close. But the damn female always bits the male in the forehead.

[sk8rreefgeek]

the ich could be from the move. I have NO knowledge in the Hyposalinity treatment, but one time...

we had a crazy Halloween party, went on all night. My blk/white got some ich from the stress, but was back to normal in a few days with no treatment.

that BT looks awesome too! they don't all look that good, some have weird shapes. haha, you got a good one!

[The_Browns]

Just a couple close shots of the new Frogspawn that I got from skinnyjoe1976. All shots are with 2 x 250w MH and 2 x Super blue actinics.

Without Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank93.jpg

Without Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank94.jpg

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank95.jpg

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank96.jpg

[Ziggy953]

Well you can tell from my avatar that I love the frogspawn. nice pics!!

[The_Browns]

Alright some updates. We got back from Puerto Rico last week to find out the fish in our DT had ich and our skunk shrimp dead alond with a Chromy missing. My neighbor did not do to good a of a job watching the temperature. Anyway, i picked up some 1/8" plexy glass from lowes and me and the wife build a custom fish trap. So far we have caught the 2 chromis and the Hippo. The only left in the DT in the Goby. I will take pictures of the fish trap we made, it worked pretty good. Only needed to starve the Hippo for 3 days before he went in there to nip at some Nori.

:( Ich - I hate it.

We have a 29g QT setup and we will be doing Hypo salinity on it. The DT will be fishless for 2 months.

[kar93]

Good Call, Hope they get better :thumbsup:

[The_Browns]

We got a couple new additions for the tank

Rainbow Acan
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/acan.jpg

Duncans
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/duncans.jpg

[sk8rreefgeek]

whoa! those are awesome! great way to start page 7! how bout another FTS when u get a chance

[The_Browns]

We picked up lots of new stuff this weekend. Here is a list. I will post pictures of everything real soon.

RBTA
BGM (2 eyes)
Purple death Palys
Nuclear Green Palys
Superman Montiporo (montiporo) Blue & red
Birdsnest (pocillopora) Bright Green
Millepora (acropora millepora) Bright pink
Capricornus (montipora capricornus) Green w/purple rim
ORA chips acro
Superman Mushrooms (red with blue dots)
Orange mushroom

[kar93]

Cool, Looking forward to pics. Are you dosing or calcium reactor? i cant rememmber if you mentioned

[Electrobes]

Very nice guys, looking forward to seeing the pics! I like your DIY projects you've done thus far.. very good work. :)

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12424111#post12424111 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Cool, Looking forward to pics. Are you dosing or calcium reactor? i cant rememmber if you mentioned

Dosing 2 part calc and alk

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12424158#post12424158 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Electrobes
Very nice guys, looking forward to seeing the pics! I like your DIY projects you've done thus far.. very good work. :)

Thanks

[The_Browns]

Alright as promised pictures of the new frags. All of them are not placed yet so they are on the sand bed.

Superman Mushrooms
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank99.jpg

Birdsnest (pocillopora) Bright Green and Millepora (acropora millepora) Bright pink
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank100.jpg

Capricornus (montipora capricornus) Green w/purple rim
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank101.jpg

ORA chips Acro
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank102.jpg

BGM (2 eyes)
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank103.jpg

RBTA
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank106.jpg
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank111.jpg

Orange Mushroom
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank107.jpg

[The_Browns]

CONTINUED.....

Superman Montiporo (montiporo) Blue & red
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank109.jpg

Purple death Palys
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank110.jpg

Some full tank shots
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank104.jpg
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/tank105.jpg

[The_Browns]

So, the list of corals we have thus far:

Zoas/Palys:
- Green Implosion
- PPEs
- RPEs
- Nuclear Greens
- Purple Deaths
- Monster Lips
- Lord of the Rings

LPS:
- Tyree LE Bubblegum Monster Chalice (2 eye frag)
- Rainbow Acan (~15 heads)
- Green/Lavender Frogspawn (5 heads)
- Green ORA Duncan (14 heads)

SPS:
- Superman Montiporo
- ORA chips Acro
- Montipora Capricornus Green w/purple rim
- Bright Green Birdsnest
- Bright Pink Millepora

Leather & Softies:
- Superman Mushrooms
- Orange Mushroom
- Toadstool Leather
- Purple tip Kenya Tree
- Neon Orange Ricordia

[The_Browns]

We have most of the corals on the sand bed becuase we cant decide where to put things.

Any suggestions????

[The_Browns]

Alright I need some suggestions so if your following our tank build please advise.

I currently do not like by 2 x 110w VHO Super Blue Actinics. I was wondering what other VHO bulbs out there would be better. The Super Blues are just to blue.

I was thinking of going with the VHO 48" 110 Watt 14K 75/25 Actinic Blue/Day URI/UVL

[packer]

Because you are running 14k MH, the super Ac might be overkill. I run 1 super with 3 Actinic White bulbs, but also have 10K for MH. I love the look, as the 10k is a crisp white and the other balance out the blue look. Also I think the 10K adds a little more for sps growth then when I ran 14k before. Just dont go with the URI daylight bulbs, they give off a pink glow that I hated when I tried them.

So if you switch to 10k MH the supers would probably work. But it would be cheaper for sure to get two new VHO bulbs to switch. Store the supers so when its time to go with new MH, and if you go 10K then you will have them to use together.

[The_Browns]

Good advise packer, but the blue look I do not like is when the Actinics are the only thing on. I run my actinics 2 hours before and 2 hours after the MH come on, yes they also run while the MH are on. The tank is just way to blue when only actinics are on.

[packer]

Also are you running carbon? Remember chemical warfare can really affect sps when housing LPS and Leather Coral together. Just thought I would mention that as it seems you have been bitten by the SPS bug! ( It happens to the best of us!!)

And because you are thinking where to put things still, make sure your BTA is set and happy so it does not move and sting any other corals you mount. If you are switching lights, do that first as it might cause the BTA to move, although Reds are pretty good about staying put. Also allow for alot of growth of the BTA, and mount corals a good distance away. My BTA's doubled size in about six months, and although slowed have continued to grow over three years now and still going.

[packer]

Yeah its kinda wierd with AC only, but set your goal for the full light look. If you take out the blue and when all are on the corals wont pop out as much. I love the glowing look, so a short "blue only" time is tolerable.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12482217#post12482217 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by packer
Also are you running carbon? Remember chemical warfare can really affect sps when housing LPS and Leather Coral together. Just thought I would mention that as it seems you have been bitten by the SPS bug! ( It happens to the best of us!!)



We simply have a carbon bag that we change out about once every 3 weeks, we do not have a carbon reactor.

What do you mean we got bitten?

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12482229#post12482229 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by packer
Yeah its kinda wierd with AC only, but set your goal for the full light look. If you take out the blue and when all are on the corals wont pop out as much. I love the glowing look, so a short "blue only" time is tolerable.

Gotcha, Thanks for the insight packer, you have been helpful.

[packer]

SPS are wonderful, and as you have no doubt seen, can be very costly for some gotta have limited editions. I ran LPS for a few years saying yeah SPS are nice but not for me. The the bug bit me!! Now I devote my energy towards them. So exciting to see them grow and morph into all kinds of colors and shapes. And I am searching for that havent seen before rare specemin to add at all shops and frag swaps I go to!! Its additcting

[The_Browns]

LOL, I am on the same page now..... A little slower than normal for a Tuesday.

[Toglco]

The tank is coming along real nicely :thumbsup:

[TheLivingSeas]

Very nice tank. The next thing I would do is upgrade the skimmer if you haven't already.

[bryman]

Wow, everything looks great and it looks like you have done a lot of research for your first tank. It's come a very long way in a little over 4 months total!

[The_Browns]

Thanks for the compliments everyone.

TheLivingSeas: We have not upgraded our skimmer yet but we are looking for one.

[Gtstricky]

looks good... keep us updated

[sk8rreefgeek]

my daylights go off at 6, actinics at 7. personally, i love the hour when just the blues are on.

looking forward to an updated fts.
did the B&Ws pull thru ok?

[The_Browns]

I have one update. I put 2 emeralds crabs in the tank to take care of the bubble algae. They took care of it alright and fast but they also took care of one of my Superman Mushrooms. I have since moved them into the fuge, they are lucky that I was not in the mood for bite size crablegs.... ;)

[JKDMan]

live rock is better used as filtration when fully submerged,by using it as
wet/dry media your a essentally turning a peice of LR into a bio ball
basically the diffrence is that it will be a better filter if it was fully submerged all the time

[The_Browns]

We just picked up a mother colony of Garf Bonsai Acro. I will post pics as soon as I can.

[The_Browns]

Some updates with some new corals.

Stellar "Stargazer" Chalice

Under MH w/Actinics
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral13.jpg

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral8.jpg

Fruit Punch Lord

Under MH and Actinics
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral10.jpg

Sour Puss Micro Minuta

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral7.jpg

Under MH and Actinics
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral11.jpg

Purple and Blue Duncan w/a Yellow Mouth

With MH and Actinics
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral3.jpg

Dragon Slayer Micromussa Minuta

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral2.jpg

Actinics Only
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral5.jpg

DC LE Leptastrea

Actinics Only
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral6.jpg

With Flash
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral9.jpg

[NanoGurl]

Beautiful! I love them =)

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12659173#post12659173 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoGurl
Beautiful! I love them =)

Thanks NanoGurl.

[The_Browns]

A couple of tank shots:

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral15.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral16.jpg

http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/coral17.jpg

[kar93]

Tank looks great, Its really coming along now. :thumbsup:

[The_Browns]

Just a quick update: The new Fruit Punch lords we got are dying, the Superman Monti is dying, and the Stellar Chalice we got is dying. All water params are perfect temp always 80-82. We also lost the Pink milli due to a galaxia sting. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! This hobby is more frustrating than enjoying

[kar93]

Its all worth it in the end. What are all your water param levels?

[The_Browns]

I will test them all again tonight and post them here.

[The_Browns]

Here are my current params

pH: 8.2
Calcium: 380
Mag: 1300
Nitrate: 0 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
Ammonia: 0 ppm
Salinity: 1.025

My calc and Mag are a little low because I have not been dosing. I am in the mist of hooking up my 3 stage doser.

[AngeloM3]

Edit:

sorry... asked a stupid question and answered it myself :)

the ones that are dying you've had for a couple weeks now, right?

[kar93]

I would recommend getting an Alk test kit, it very often goes untested when needed.

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12768635#post12768635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AngeloM3
Edit:

sorry... asked a stupid question and answered it myself :)

the ones that are dying you've had for a couple weeks now, right?

Correct. As soon as they go in the tank they look fine, Then start going downhill from there. BUt its only with acans usually. I mean our Tyree BGM is still doing fine. Acan just don't last

[payyourtoll]

hey nice tank, any updates on sick coral

[The_Browns]

Yes actually, The reason we were having problems was because out temp probe was not working properly. Our tank temp was 89 degrees for a couple months. All corals are starting to bounce back now. I will update with some pics soon.

[The_Browns]

Its been a while so here is a video of the tank:

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp318/brown12321/th_MVI_2888.jpg (http://s423.photobucket.com/albums/pp318/brown12321/?action=view&current=MVI_2888.flv)

[Roy G. Biv]

I thought you gave up! Its been a while. :) The tank's looking mature!

[The_Browns]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13802924#post13802924 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pmolan
I thought you gave up! Its been a while. :)

hehe, No Way. We are actually talking about upgrading to a BIG system. 300-400 gallon in wall build :) Probably next year.

[The_Browns]

Some Corals Pics:

Prism Favia
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/1.JPG

Rainbow Acan #1
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/2.JPG

What used to be a 5 color Rainbow now just Red, Orange with a hint of purple
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/3.JPG

Fruit Punch Lords
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/4.JPG
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/9.JPG

Juicy Corals Fat Boy Duncans with my big Green with Purple rim cap in the background.
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/5.JPG

Frogspawn
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/6.JPG

Purple Bonsai
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/7.JPG

My mated pair of true black Perc in their RBTA
http://www.cflads.com/images/tank/8.JPG