Elegance coral show off thread

[elegance coral]

We have show off threads for everything but Elegance corals. With more and more of us being successful with these corals now, I think it's time Elegance corals had a thread of their own.
So, lets see what you got...:D

[elegance coral]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3470/dscn0763ae0.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1194/dscn0785sr3.jpg

[elegance coral]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/995/dscn0728fk7.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7733/dscn0657kk0.jpg

[elegance coral]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1350/dscn0789xh5.jpg

[LPSreef]

here are my 5 frags from 12 year old big mama
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df24b3127cceb37a52f51a3600000026103QaM2LVqyE
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df24b3127cceb37a52f71a3400000026103QaM2LVqyE
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df24b3127cceb37a52089bfb00000026103QaM2LVqyE

[kramgnik]

<a href="http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/?action=view&current=DSCF0020.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/DSCF0020.jpg" border="0" alt="Pink-tip Elegance"></a>

<a href="http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/?action=view&current=DSC00142.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/DSC00142.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/?action=view&current=DSC00180.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/DSC00180.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/?action=view&current=DSC00112.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/kramgnik/DSC00112.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Sandeep]

I absolutely love them. Here are a couple of mine.

http://www.tulwar.com/imagehost/NanoJan5_08f.jpg

This is a another shot of the above Elegance showing some of it's lovely structure.
http://www.tulwar.com/imagehost/NanoJan5_08g.jpg

Here is another one of my Elegance, this is a newly cut frag.
http://www.tulwar.com/imagehost/NanoJan5_08c.jpg

[shorjai]

wats the lighting requirement for those sexy elegance coral

[LPSreef]

I use HQI 150w + T5 4x24w

[Coderabit2]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/coderabit/DSCN2921.jpg

[hybridgenius]

So damn sexy! lol. Mines is still recovering so no pix for another yr.

[superedge88]

Here's a couple of my elegance, got an aussie coming in this week to keep this one company!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/superedge88/12152007elegance.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/superedge88/01062008001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/superedge88/01012008001.jpg
All pics taken with my camera phone and not photoshopped.

[Pufferpunk]

Are they serious stingers?

[mspad]

I sure would like to know how to keep such beautiful corals. Anyone want to help?

[poopsko24]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/48153elegance.jpg

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11542041#post11542041 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
Are they serious stingers?

Healthy ones are.

[chris wright]

Well I just found this thread, so here's mine, Not the easiest to get a good photo, so if I get a better one I'll post it

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/blacjack01/IMG_0349_edited.jpg

Having lunch,

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/blacjack01/IMG_0728_edited.jpg

Seconds anyone?

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/blacjack01/IMG_0724_edited.jpg

A close up of feeding,

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/blacjack01/IMG_0715_edited.jpg

Hope you enjoy,

Cheers

Chris

[chris wright]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11546311#post11546311 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mspad
I sure would like to know how to keep such beautiful corals. Anyone want to help?

Well it all depends if you can get a healthy one to begin with. If you can get an Aussie, then t5's are great or MH if accliamatized properly, moderate flow- will tolerate strongish flows, but better to be moderate and feed a little krill etc once a week.

If you can't get an Aussie or are unsure, make sure your read the Elegance coral theory thread. This will be a must. Indo elegance corals have different requirements and can have problems so make sure you read the above thread.

HTH

Cheers

Chris

[JRaquatics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11564617#post11564617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poopsko24
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/48153elegance.jpg

Jamie you have the best looking Elegance I have ever seen. Mine is comming in today from Tmore. Kurt says it is were you got yours from. I just hope I have as good of luck as you.

[BreadmanMike]

You should have gotten one of the Aussie elegance frags that places like Live Aquaria are selling instead.

Both Jamie and myself have one and they are doing great.

I bought two of the Timore ones last years and they both went in the garbage. :(

[poopsko24]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11598032#post11598032 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
You should have gotten one of the Aussie elegance frags that places like Live Aquaria are selling instead.

Both Jamie and myself have one and they are doing great.

I bought two of the Timore ones last years and they both went in the garbage. :(
Thanx Jeremy

I CONCUR W/ MIKE !!

[elegance coral]

I wish there was a way we could tell everyone not to buy an Elegance unless it came from Australia.

[JRaquatics]

Kurt is also getting a shipment of Aussie stuff in at the end of the month. He says there should be three Elegance in the order. But I think he said the cost him $200.

[BreadmanMike]

LA sells them for $159
Pink tip and purple tip, just watch when they update the divers den because they sell fast.

[BreadmanMike]

Sorry for running your thread off topic elegance coral. I just didn't want to see a friend or any other reefer waste their money on a crap shoot.

[JRaquatics]

Thanks Mike. How long have you had yours and at what cost? Got any pics to share? Any other places I can get some aussie or aquacultured elegance?

[lark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11610794#post11610794 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
LA sells them for $159
Pink tip and purple tip, just watch when they update the divers den because they sell fast.

There's a nice looking one in diver's den right now. Pink tip. I'm tempted to grab it myself! Slightly less than the price you mention. Looks nice.

You can also spend $999 on an acan lord too, while you're there!

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11612183#post11612183 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aquaticman74
Sorry for running your thread off topic elegance coral. I just didn't want to see a friend or any other reefer waste their money on a crap shoot.

It's all good:) I'm tired of seeing all these Elegance corals collected just to die in someones tank. I wish they would stop importing these corals from Indonesia all together. I have a system set up just for these Indonesian Elegance corals and it still takes me 2 or 3 years to get one healthy. I can buy an Aussie and it will be healthy from day one. Why would anyone buy an Indonesian Elegance?

Here's a few more pics of mine.

My wife's tank. Don't look at the cyno:rolleyes: . She thinks the fish will starve if there isn't food floating around in the tank for 30 minutes a day.
These are Aussie
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1313/dscn0728gd2.jpg
This is an Indo.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6050/dscn0709ir0.jpg
Why would anyone want to buy an Indo when they can get an Aussie?

[myusername]

Grate looking Elegance.

[Mental1]

Here's my Aussie. It looks funny because I just fed it which is why it is surrounded by a pack of blue legs and there is no movement in the tank. My camera is awful so it is the best way to get a picture ... or I am an awful photographer ...


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/13135408Ele.jpg

[tynmissy]

heres my wifes favorite coral

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b329/catstudios/100_0004.jpg

ty

[Fliger]

My Aussies. Bought as frags from www.thecaptivereef.com (now an RC sponsor)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/dfliger/Elos%20160XL/IMG_6394.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/dfliger/Elos%20160XL/IMG_6392.jpg

This one is in the back, tried shading one and blasting the other. Both work, they seem to love light.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/dfliger/Elos%20160XL/IMG_6395.jpg

[tpal]

Here's my Aussie 1 week on my tank

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/reef-photo/ele.jpg

[geris]

It has doubled in size, i just don't have recent photos, this was in july 2007

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/gerispr/six-line--hammer-3.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/gerispr/elegance.jpg

[Carnavor180]

WOW some nice corals

[cristhiam]

Here is mine (I'm working on the flatworm problem :))
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh94/cristhiam_2008/January%2008/DSC09236.jpg

a picture from under
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh94/cristhiam_2008/January%2008/DSC09237.jpg

[ReefEnabler]

my elegance

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/167670elegance1-12-08.JPG

posting from gainsville florida, quality inn h(m)otel :D Finishing up my scuba checkout dives in the morning at the blue grotto. Then it's time for a longass drive back to Raleigh NC in time to catch an hour or two of sleep before work on monday :)

Elegance coral,
you wouldn't happen to be on the way, would you???


Ryan

[Aquarist007]

Here's my elegance back in Dec when I purchase it;

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/IMG_4847.jpg


here it is today:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/DSC_0032.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/DSC_0002_1.jpg

[heuerfan]

Finally joining the club, got this from someone local. He had it for 3 months, have no clue if its an aussie or indo but it seems very healthy.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/1/2021441990.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7534398)

[ReefEnabler]

looking nice guys!

I cant wait to get my elegance out of my 20G holding/QT tank and into my 220 display with MHs and a calcium reactor :D


now if only you fellas could see the size of my todo list before I actually HAVE a 220G display .....................

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11616414#post11616414 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
It's all good:) I'm tired of seeing all these Elegance corals collected just to die in someones tank. I wish they would stop importing these corals from Indonesia all together. I have a system set up just for these Indonesian Elegance corals and it still takes me 2 or 3 years to get one healthy. I can buy an Aussie and it will be healthy from day one. Why would anyone buy an Indonesian Elegance?

Here's a few more pics of mine.

My wife's tank. Don't look at the cyno:rolleyes: . She thinks the fish will starve if there isn't food floating around in the tank for 30 minutes a day.
These are Aussie
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1313/dscn0728gd2.jpg
This is an Indo.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6050/dscn0709ir0.jpg
Why would anyone want to buy an Indo when they can get an Aussie?

hey elegance---how is my elegance doing since the last time I posted--waiting to hear from the mentor:smokin:

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11641191#post11641191 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks

Elegance coral,
you wouldn't happen to be on the way, would you???


Ryan
Sorry for the delayed response, but no, I'm quite a ways south of Gainsville.

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11656905#post11656905 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
hey elegance---how is my elegance doing since the last time I posted--waiting to hear from the mentor:smokin:

:lol: It looks good and healthy. It would open up much more if you could turn the flow down a bit in its area, though. They really don't need much in the way of flow. If you are able, try it for a few days and post another pic. It would be neat to see a before and after pic.

[Willieb18]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/willieb18/8b73e61a.jpg
Mine about 5 months after I got it. I ended up selling it for $30.00 with I still had it.

[Dano999]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/Dano999/elegance021508final.jpg

[simion3]

how do you tell if an elegance is indo or aussie?

[lockus]

Here is an elegance I had about 5 years ago. It was the size of a football. I got it with alot of other coral when I bought a local reefers tank form him. I lost this beautiful coral when I was on vacation. The pictures do not do it justice.

Ryan


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g173/lockus13/DSC00038.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g173/lockus13/DSC00139-2.jpg

[chris wright]

I turned mine about 90 degress to the left to move it to a more appropriate position. I've known about the little growth of the side, and I'm after some opinions.

Will this piece detach naturally, or will it have to be fragged?

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/blacjack01/marine%20items/IMG_1113_edited.jpg

The photo was taken after the lights went out, and the shell was not broken off the edge of the main piece. I've had this coral for over 6 months, and it has grown in that time.

thanks

[superedge88]

will probably need to be fragged, or maybe just elevated on that side so that gravity can encourage it to pull of on its own.

[geris]

update photo:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/gerispr/elegance-1.jpg

[JazzZero]

Wow thats some cool stuff keep posting

[Freed]

Anyone lose any fish to an elegance before?

[elegance coral]

I personally haven't, but I have seen a shallow display tank full of Elegance corals and probably 100 or more small fish. There were fish skulls in the sand around the Elegance corals. In this case I just don't think there was enough room for the fish to avoid the tentacles.

[chris wright]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11885596#post11885596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by superedge88
will probably need to be fragged, or maybe just elevated on that side so that gravity can encourage it to pull of on its own.

I will have to try elevating it. I would like to see if nature takes it's course. Thanks for responding,

Cheers

Chris

[reverendmaynard]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/epolacek/125_sw_tank/clowns_040807.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/epolacek/125_sw_tank/elegance_2007_05060081.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/epolacek/125_sw_tank/elegance_2007_05060079.jpg

[amphirion]

This thread is really cool, keep posting pictures of your elegance, they are awesome corals. I may get one soon, just waiting to find a good specimen. :)

[magnar]

Hello .. here is my elegance coral...sorry about the bad pics. The coral is ca 50cm x 30cm x 30cm. This is offcourse my favorite corall...no doubt. As you can see..my Bangai fishes loves to roam in it

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/137877P2250006.JPG

This is a (bad) shot from above..The coral uses all the aquariumspace when fully open...ca 50cm. I will need to rearange my rockwork soon.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/137877P2250009.JPG

The tank is 320 liters and the coral covers 1/4 of it.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/137877P2250012.JPG

[amphirion]

I don't see the pics...

[magnar]

Sorry about that...I deleted the pictures in my gallery , that was not a smart move hehehe.

Magnar

[bradleyj]

Here is my aussie I got a couple of weeks ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/225%20g%20%20reef/100_6658.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/225%20g%20%20reef/100_6623.jpg

[drouner]

I feel in love with the Aussie ones last year at a LFS down in Tampa. I was tempted to buy on then but my tank was full of SPS. Now that I got the "Been there, Done the SPS thing" t-shirt, I've started selling them off.

Of course I run across this thread and I guess it is time to start looking for an Aussie Elegance again.


My dumb question for the day is:

Can you frag elegance corals, say if it gets to big?

[PayasoDelMar]

Can clowns host these?

[Mojo Jojo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11971333#post11971333 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PayasoDelMar
Can clowns host these?

Kid they are out your league... look the other way... I better not get asked about them :rolleyes:

[jadeguppy]

Can you frag elegance corals, say if it gets to big?
Yes, it has been done.

Can clowns host these?
I've seen picture of them hosting in elegances. Mine was already hosting in a frogspawn and open brain.

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11971333#post11971333 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PayasoDelMar
Can clowns host these?

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/753/elegance012ae4.jpg
This is a very poor pic of one of my Elegance corals hosting a pair of clowns. This relationship usually turns out poorly for the Elegance. In my opinion this is not a wise thing to allow.

[drouner]

Okay I blame this thread on my spending habits!!

Here is the Aussie Elegance I picked up yesterday at the new LFS in town. $80!!

Now my question is how much flow will these guys take? As you can see in the picture the flow is pretty strong. I've turned my Vortech pretty much all the way down.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/4298elegance-med.jpg

[chris wright]

Aussies are found higher up in the reef, so they can withstand stronger flows than indio's, but a vortech may be to strong. If the polyps are getting a good sway in the water, but not getting blown over, than you have hit the sweet spot.

Also, most reefers keep their Cati's on the bottom of the tank, especially considering how much the polyps can extend. If the flow was not to strong, the coral on the left would be getting stung by now to, by the way.

Polyp extension is going to be your best guide, if it's short the flow and position may not be suitable, more so the flow, so play around with the vortech. If your polyps are getting out to 3-4 inches in the next few days, then I wouldn't change a thing

[JM68]

Got this little guy about a week ago and it's doing well so far. I had to pull 2 gal crabs out of it the day after i brought it home, but since then its been great. I was told it came in with an aussie shipment, but who knows if it actually came from australia or if it was just shipped through there. Any length of time i should wait before i get my hopes up that its healthy and going to make it?

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t29/flurdog/elegance_3_7.jpg

[ReefEnabler]

my elegance has not been opening up as much the last week.

I think I might have made a mistake when I tried feeding it some squid I got from the asian market. A couple days after feeding it I saw what appeared to be a few 'white streaks' emanating from the mouths I fed under the tissue. Could that be food stuck in the digestive track that it doesn't agree with?

I'm not sure if it was that or my crappy glass heater. I saw the temp rise to 84 this week. I've been turning the dial on the heater down ALOT, and the tank is still 82, even though I the dial on my glass heater is at 70 :P

thankfully I just got my ranco and some aquamedic titanium heaters. hopefully should never have that problem again.

It's starting to bounce back a little.

[ReefEnabler]

also just got a bunch of new test kits and spent the last hour testing parameters.

pH 8.05 (sometimes gets as low as 7.9 at night, but is usually around 8.2-4 during day). Pinpoint pH monitor.
alk: 8dKH, API
Calcium: 380ppm, API
Salinity: 1.025, sybon refracto
Amm: 0, API
nitrites: 0, API
nitrates: 0, API
Phosphates: 0, API
Silicate: <0.03ppm (salifert)
Strontium: 0-3ppm (salifert)

I know my strontium is low, today is the first time I've tested it (what a pain!!!!) and I've never added supplements for it. how much does it matter to an elegance?

Anything else look funny? Could my water be too clean(lol)?

still gotta test for Mg and copper.

Ryan

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12036506#post12036506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JM68
Got this little guy about a week ago and it's doing well so far. I had to pull 2 gal crabs out of it the day after i brought it home, but since then its been great. I was told it came in with an aussie shipment, but who knows if it actually came from australia or if it was just shipped through there. Any length of time i should wait before i get my hopes up that its healthy and going to make it?

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t29/flurdog/elegance_3_7.jpg

your tank is the same size as mine--just wondering how close you have the elegance to the substrate
nice colour:cool:

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12001826#post12001826 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drouner
Okay I blame this thread on my spending habits!!

Here is the Aussie Elegance I picked up yesterday at the new LFS in town. $80!!

Now my question is how much flow will these guys take? As you can see in the picture the flow is pretty strong. I've turned my Vortech pretty much all the way down.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/4298elegance-med.jpg

I agree with Chris. If the tentacles are all pointing in the same direction, it's a pretty good sign that the flow is to strong. Beautiful Elegance BTW.

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12036744#post12036744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
also just got a bunch of new test kits and spent the last hour testing parameters.

pH 8.05 (sometimes gets as low as 7.9 at night, but is usually around 8.2-4 during day). Pinpoint pH monitor.
alk: 8dKH, API
Calcium: 380ppm, API
Salinity: 1.025, sybon refracto
Amm: 0, API
nitrites: 0, API
nitrates: 0, API
Phosphates: 0, API
Silicate: <0.03ppm (salifert)
Strontium: 0-3ppm (salifert)

I know my strontium is low, today is the first time I've tested it (what a pain!!!!) and I've never added supplements for it. how much does it matter to an elegance?

Anything else look funny? Could my water be too clean(lol)?

still gotta test for Mg and copper.

Ryan

The white line in the tissue running between the mouth and tentacles is nothing to worry about. Strontium is just as important to Elegance corals as it is to other stony corals.

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12036697#post12036697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
my elegance has not been opening up as much the last week.

I think I might have made a mistake when I tried feeding it some squid I got from the asian market. A couple days after feeding it I saw what appeared to be a few 'white streaks' emanating from the mouths I fed under the tissue. Could that be food stuck in the digestive track that it doesn't agree with?



One more thing. They can be sensitive to the phosphates we put in sea food as a preservative. Try to make sure that any food you feed them hasn't been treated with phosphates.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12038301#post12038301 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
One more thing. They can be sensitive to the phosphates we put in sea food as a preservative. Try to make sure that any food you feed them hasn't been treated with phosphates.

esp frozen food like mysis--make sure you rinse it off with ro water before using--they can contain alot of phosphates and nitrates from their breeding tanks

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12038231#post12038231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
The white line in the tissue running between the mouth and tentacles is nothing to worry about. Strontium is just as important to Elegance corals as it is to other stony corals.
if we are doing 20 per cent water changes every other week do we still need to supplement strontium?

[ReefEnabler]

"if we are doing 20 per cent water changes every other week do we still need to supplement strontium?"

good question. think it really depends on your salt brand. Not sure if theres any recent-enough salt studies to rely on for that.

Next time I do a water change I'll do a strontium check on my instant ocean mix. I would have done it tonight but I had already done it for the main tank before my WC. Took me about 35 minutes for the whole test because there are 5 separate parts to the kit and some require 15 minutes between additions.


but what I do like about the salifert strontium test is that it gives you a calcium reading about halfway through the test. My API test said 380 calcium and the Sr test said 400. It was my first time doing the test so I wouldn't be suprised if I made some minor errors.


p.s. i dont recall there being a reef tank in Home Alone! hehe j/k

[JM68]

your tank is the same size as mine--just wondering how close you have the elegance to the substrate

the elegance itself is about 4-5" off the bottom, you can actually c the sand in the lower left hand corner of the picture. i wanted to put it in the sand, but my sandbed isn't deep enough(1") to bury the skeleton enough to support it and keep it upright so i had to put it in a crevice on the rock.

[chris wright]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12038894#post12038894 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
"if we are doing 20 per cent water changes every other week do we still need to supplement strontium?"

good question. think it really depends on your salt brand. Not sure if theres any recent-enough salt studies to rely on for that.

Next time I do a water change I'll do a strontium check on my instant ocean mix. I would have done it tonight but I had already done it for the main tank before my WC. Took me about 35 minutes for the whole test because there are 5 separate parts to the kit and some require 15 minutes between additions.


but what I do like about the salifert strontium test is that it gives you a calcium reading about halfway through the test. My API test said 380 calcium and the Sr test said 400. It was my first time doing the test so I wouldn't be suprised if I made some minor errors.


p.s. i dont recall there being a reef tank in Home Alone! hehe j/k

I've found that instant ocean is low in the main parameters, so I'd say its low on the minor elements as well.

[erichatesmice]

Here's mine. I've had him for 5 months.

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/068/1/a/Elegance_3_by_eksong.jpg

[elegance coral]

WOW! That is a beautiful pic. My pic's never look that good.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12038894#post12038894 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
"if we are doing 20 per cent water changes every other week do we still need to supplement strontium?"

good question. think it really depends on your salt brand. Not sure if theres any recent-enough salt studies to rely on for that.

Next time I do a water change I'll do a strontium check on my instant ocean mix. I would have done it tonight but I had already done it for the main tank before my WC. Took me about 35 minutes for the whole test because there are 5 separate parts to the kit and some require 15 minutes between additions.


but what I do like about the salifert strontium test is that it gives you a calcium reading about halfway through the test. My API test said 380 calcium and the Sr test said 400. It was my first time doing the test so I wouldn't be suprised if I made some minor errors.


p.s. i dont recall there being a reef tank in Home Alone! hehe j/k

I just left a question about salt mixes in the reef chemistry forum because I use IO also and know the calcium level for one is lower then the others

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1340746

yeah--grandkids---they love the reef tanks--I wish I had been able to keep one in my science class at school-----great learning tools

[bradleyj]

Here they are when they are fully extended.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/100_6861.jpg

[bradleyj]

WOOPS wrong thread with the picture above.

Here's my elegance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/100_6856.jpg

[ReefEnabler]

Hey guys,

I followed a link from capns strontium thread to this caresheet page: http://www.asira.org/catalaphyllia%28elegancecoral%29

I noticed that it says not to keep elegance with leather corals. Can anybody substantiate this? Anybody keeping them with leather corals? Is there something too potent about the chemical warfare given off by leathers?

a sinularia frag was given to me a few days ago and its been in the tank with my elegance. during that time period the elegance has not gotten worse, only better (it was already not extending all the way befre the sinularia was added but its almost back to normal now)

Ryan

[jadeguppy]

I have leathers in my tank, but they are near the overflow to help chemical warfare get flushed to the skimmer before it reaches my elegance.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12048759#post12048759 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
Hey guys,

I followed a link from capns strontium thread to this caresheet page: http://www.asira.org/catalaphyllia%28elegancecoral%29

I noticed that it says not to keep elegance with leather corals. Can anybody substantiate this? Anybody keeping them with leather corals? Is there something too potent about the chemical warfare given off by leathers?

a sinularia frag was given to me a few days ago and its been in the tank with my elegance. during that time period the elegance has not gotten worse, only better (it was already not extending all the way befre the sinularia was added but its almost back to normal now)

Ryan

that was kind of a dorky link--there is much more meaningful stuff that elegance coral has offered right in this thread

:smokin:

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12049112#post12049112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jadeguppy
I have leathers in my tank, but they are near the overflow to help chemical warfare get flushed to the skimmer before it reaches my elegance.

they only do that if stressed or upagainst another coral so they can take it over by a hormone they use that prevents the growth of other corals
If you have lots of flow--20-40 times the vol of your tank in gph then there should not be a problem with them and the hormone they release.

[gastone]

Just got this specemin last week. Have wanted a cataphylia for the past five years, but with the dismal survival rates of indo elegances I refused to do it. One of my local LFS got this aussie in. I could say no no longer.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c77/brewsters34/My%20tank/elegance2.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c77/brewsters34/My%20tank/elegance1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c77/brewsters34/My%20tank/elegance3.jpg

Garrett.

[gastone]

dp

[erichatesmice]

Wow gastone that elegance is AMAZING.

As for leathers, I have one but it's on the opposite side of the tank (about 2ft away)

[reefman13]

gastone- that specimen is awesome. How big is it?

[Frozn]

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z86/Realfrozn/0308082133b.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z86/Realfrozn/tank005.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z86/Realfrozn/tank003.jpg

Clown is gone now.. cant have him beating up my elegance :D

[gastone]

thanks guys. I've had it for just over a week now. Has settled in nicely. I only hope that it is here to stay. Expanded it is about 9-10" long, and about 4-5" at its widest. It eats up real estate, but then again in time I hope it will be the focal point.

Two more on my wish list and I'm done (fateful last words): a red scolymia, and a red goniopora. That's the nice thing about a small tank... you can't keep adding as you run out of room.

g.

[JRaquatics]

Here is my new Ausie ellegance I traded a LFS for frags. I will also plan on getting a pink tip aussie frag when the weather gets better. Got it last weekend. So far so good.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/elegance.jpg

[Kellie in CA]

This may be a dumb question. But how can you tell the difference between the Indonesian and Aussie varieties? I received one of these last weekend as a gift from my boyfriend (he meant well), but after doing a lot of reading, I am not sure what its chances for survival are.

[SCIFI_3D_zoo]

Is there a thread, FAQ, or article about how to take care of an Elegence? I never heard the idea about rinsing some foods b/c they are so sensitive to Phos. Is that just with food or Phos in the water column too? Any other tips to keep one of these.

[amphirion]

Hey, I just ordered an Aussie Elegance at an LFS from Montreal. It should arrive in Quebec tomorrow and I should get it by Saturday. I'll post some pics!! :)

[amphirion]

Here is my new Aussi Elegance I got 4 days ago!

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/Francois-Etienne/100_4095.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/Francois-Etienne/100_4092.jpg

Pink tips:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/Francois-Etienne/MontageElegance.jpg

That coral is really fascinating. Tonight, my Clarki clown is starting to host it, I hope he'll get away from the elegance since I don't want the coral to be stressed.

[SCIFI_3D_zoo]

If he's gonna do it then there's no stopping. If he's taken to it so quickly you're probably gonna have a problem. Have to see how rough he gets with it. Rubbing into it hard, etc. My clown is hosting in a large finger leather and he was biting the tips off. But this leather can handle a clown.

[jadeguppy]

bump for an awesome thread!

[peter1]

Here is my:
http://www.korallszirtes-akvarium.hu/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Art/peti1_806l/peti1/DSC00410.JPG

[SCIFI_3D_zoo]

Is there a thread, FAQ, or article about how to take care of an Elegence? I never heard the idea about rinsing some foods b/c they are so sensitive to Phos. Is that just with food or Phos in the water column too? Any other tips to keep one of these.

[sailfish2]

Here are my two that used to be one. Pic is about two weeks after I fraged mine. I have had him for over a year.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/sailfish88/DSC_0009-3.jpg

Joe

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12321306#post12321306 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCIFI_3D_zoo
Is there a thread, FAQ, or article about how to take care of an Elegence? I never heard the idea about rinsing some foods b/c they are so sensitive to Phos. Is that just with food or Phos in the water column too? Any other tips to keep one of these.

yes there is scifi--but it is quite a read:
its called elegance theory
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1109727&highlight=elegance

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12322671#post12322671 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sailfish2
Here are my two that used to be one. Pic is about two weeks after I fraged mine. I have had him for over a year.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/sailfish88/DSC_0009-3.jpg

Joe

wow--they don't mind touching each other?

[sailfish2]

Not that I have seen. They used to be one so I would not think that they would hurt each other.

Joe

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12322876#post12322876 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sailfish2
Not that I have seen. They used to be one so I would not think that they would hurt each other.

Joe

I wonder if it would work it you bought a new species and put it right beside the other?

[superedge88]

My elegance corals touch each other, different types, no problems at all.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12323458#post12323458 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by superedge88
My elegance corals touch each other, different types, no problems at all.

great the one to the left of my avitar is going to get a mate;)

[poopsko24]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12322899#post12322899 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
I wonder if it would work it you bought a new species and put it right beside the other?

why would'nt it ?????????????

[stunreefer]

Heres my aussie elegance. It was in my friends tank for 9 months, and I have been eyeing it since it came in! (he trans-ships boxes.) Lots of convincing and a few beers later on Friday night, and this bad boy went home with me! I wish the tips were a little brighter, but he did say that he only fed it once or twice the entire time he had it?! So I'm hoping that feeding him 2-3 times a week might help with coloring up the pink tips. Its definently the brightest base color I've ever seen on an elegance though, especially in person. This pic was taken the second night he was in the tank - he gets much bigger now, so I'll have to get a new pic and post it for you guys.....

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/stunreefer/img_0541.jpg

[Elliott89]

My Aussie :D



http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u150/ZEBRAPLECOL46/AUSSIEELEGANCE.jpg

[05TurboS2K]

SO WHAT IS THE TRICK TO KEEPING THESE ALIVE....since it seems many of you are doing so.

I'm curious to hear from people who have kept them nearly a year or better.

[gastone]

I'm not sure there is a "trick" to keeping them alive. The trick is getting a healthy one in the first place. Whatever bane has plagued the indo catalaphylias for the last six+ years that we see, doesn't *appear* to come in on the Aussie elegances, though anecdotal evidence shows that if stored in the same system, the Aussie variety will contract said illness and perish.

So buy Aussie... and hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as so many indos of late.


Garrett.

[amphirion]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12344186#post12344186 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stunreefer


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/stunreefer/img_0541.jpg

Wow, that's quite a piece. The color is just amazing.

[Denbf58]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/521/183672mini-000_0009.JPG :D :D :D :D

[superedge88]

Here's an indonesian elegance that I picked up ($$$) from a pet store nearby, was told it was from a guy that had it for 2 years and had to breakdown his tank for one reason or another, was well worth the cash, now I have 3 elegance corals in my 150 four footer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/superedge88/IndoElegance-1-1.jpg

[PoukieBear]

YEA ! I finaly get to joing the Elegance club. :lol:

My friend Dee gave me this Aussie on the weekend.



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Poukiebear/Fish%20Tank/Toronto220.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Poukiebear/Fish%20Tank/Toronto227.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Poukiebear/Fish%20Tank/Toronto229.jpg


My only concern is the lighting. I've had to move several of my corals down lower because they were getting TOO much light. go figure....I have the opposite problem of everyone else. :rolleyes:
If need be, I'll buy more rock and make it a nice little shelter. I'm running T5's. 6 x 50watts each, and I think they are power boosted to 84watts each.

[superedge88]

poukiebear, looks to me like it might be a little bleached out, so don't be surprised if it darkens. I run T5HO as well, depending on how much light it is getting it may be a good idea to shelter it a bit.

[PoukieBear]

It could be that the pics are a little washed out. I'm not the best photographer. It actually does look a little greener in person.

How many watts of T5's are you running? I have a feeling I'll need to buy some more live rock to create a shelter for it.

[stunreefer]

Poukie , you can always add a screen top-section between the light and top of tank located over the elegance. I've done this before, actually for my elegance. Just take some eggcrate, and wrap some window screen around it, placing it above the elegance (so you dont shade your whole tank). You can start with a few layers of screen, then remove them one by one (week by week), until your just eggcrate, then remove it all. This will slowly bring the elegance up to the brighter light. My tank is only 18" deep, with a 250 HQI 14K over top, and my elegance was P I S S E D off when I first brought him home, but now since he slowly acllimated to it, hes loving it!!!

IMO, I dont think your elegance is bleached out. It could be (bleached), it could be the pic, or most elegance tend to have a more pastel base to them anyway. I LOVE the super bright purple-blue tips too - too cool!

superedge88 - wicked man!!! What kind of lighting was that pic taken under? #1, thats an awesome pic, but more importantly #2, what an awesome elegance! Congrats on a great score!!!

[superedge88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12379437#post12379437 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stunreefer
Poukie , you can always add a screen top-section between the light and top of tank located over the elegance. I've done this before, actually for my elegance. Just take some eggcrate, and wrap some window screen around it, placing it above the elegance (so you dont shade your whole tank). You can start with a few layers of screen, then remove them one by one (week by week), until your just eggcrate, then remove it all. This will slowly bring the elegance up to the brighter light. My tank is only 18" deep, with a 250 HQI 14K over top, and my elegance was P I S S E D off when I first brought him home, but now since he slowly acllimated to it, hes loving it!!!

IMO, I dont think your elegance is bleached out. It could be (bleached), it could be the pic, or most elegance tend to have a more pastel base to them anyway. I LOVE the super bright purple-blue tips too - too cool! Can you believe I took that pic with my crappy camera phone?!!

superedge88 - wicked man!!! What kind of lighting was that pic taken under? #1, thats an awesome pic, but more importantly #2, what an awesome elegance! Congrats on a great score!!!

The pic was taken under my T5 evening bulbs ( 4 blue plus) I run 8 overdriven T5HO bulbs total on my aquarium. The elegance was quite a score, I hadn't seen one before with white tips or with such a green body.

[PoukieBear]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12379437#post12379437 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stunreefer
Poukie , you can always add a screen top-section between the light and top of tank located over the elegance. I've done this before, actually for my elegance. Just take some eggcrate, and wrap some window screen around it, placing it above the elegance (so you dont shade your whole tank). You can start with a few layers of screen, then remove them one by one (week by week), until your just eggcrate, then remove it all. This will slowly bring the elegance up to the brighter light. My tank is only 18" deep, with a 250 HQI 14K over top, and my elegance was P I S S E D off when I first brought him home, but now since he slowly acllimated to it, hes loving it!!!


I had to do this last night.... When i got home the coral wasn't so happy. I turned out the day lights, and just left the actinics on and it came out then.

I had to improvise with a few materials that I had around the house. Hopefully this weekend i'll get some proper stuff.

But.....It seems to me that just blocking the light directly above the coral isn't accomplishing much. Maybe it's because the tank is so tall.... when I turned on the lights this morning it didn't seem like the coral was shaded at all.

[stunreefer]

Yeah I could see that, you might be getting most of the light via reflection off of the glass and the sand/rocks. Keep in mind that relected light like that is visible to us, but doesn't provide the intensity that direct light would, which would make the coral mad (if its more of a low-light coral).

Something easy and cheap to do in this case (if its getting too much reflected light/top shading isn't helping), you can build a little stand (like a frag rack) out of eggcrate around the elegance. Almost like a little cage. The holes in the eggcrate will allow proper flow, and it will help diffuse the light. If necessary, you can attach screen to the top of the eggcrate cage to shade the coral even more (even the sides, but this will block some flow). I have built these stands and just put frag disks in the top to help block light....then you can put frags on there too!

How deep is your tank?

In all honesty, aussies can generally handle more light than their Indonesian cousins, so I wouldn't get too worries about it unless you notice major bleaching of color or constantly retracted tentacles. It would be somewhat normal if the coral was previously kept under real low light, and when moved into your tank lost a little base color - It will come back. My elegance is in a 50 breeder, 18" high, and there is a 250 DE MH 14K light over top. There is overall "high" lighting in this tank. Granted he's in the far corner, but that is still going to replicate a "med.-high" intensity. HTH and GL!

[Mental1]

IMVHO, unless the coral is swollen and the polyps are short you are fine. It looks just fine in the pictures

[PoukieBear]

stunreefer, Thanks for even more tips. I've moved the coral under an overhang, where it's still getting light, but not as intence. I'll see how it likes it there, and slowly move it out as needed to aclimate it.

The tank that it was in at the store didn't have intense lighting.




<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12392370#post12392370 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mental1
IMVHO, unless the coral is swollen and the polyps are short you are fine. It looks just fine in the pictures

I agree, it looks great in my pics. But shortly after those pics were taken, it's oral disks swelled up and it released a lot of algea. Not a good sign.

After a lot of reading from Elegance Coral's study, this is caused by too much light.

I think I got off lucky though, the tenticles are still extended, but the oral disks aren't as inflated as when I first brought it home. I'll take some pictures tonight to show you what I mean.

[Aust95]

I've had this elegance for 6 weeks. It gets larger each week.

[Aust95]

[IMG]http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/186533Picture_36.jpg [IMG]

[N-A-S-O]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/186533Picture_36.jpg

[N-A-S-O]

:D there you go

[Mental1]

Michelle -- how is it doing since you moved it?

[PoukieBear]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12399957#post12399957 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mental1
Michelle -- how is it doing since you moved it?


I think it's doing OK. When I moved it, it was still expanded, but to me, the oral disks aren't quite as inflated as they should be. The tenticles are still expanded all the way, which I take as a good sign.

I didn't go home last night, so I don't know how it liked it's first full day of being shaded.

I had someone check the tank, and they said that "everything looked OK". I'll know for sure tonight. I'll take pictures too.

[GSMguy]

Poukie WHO LET YOU OUT????


that elegance of yours is sweet i love those blue tips.

[PoukieBear]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12400415#post12400415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
Poukie WHO LET YOU OUT????


that elegance of yours is sweet i love those blue tips.


Poukie? Who's Poukie? There's no Poukie here, it's all just a figment of your imagination, now go back to the padded room, also known as the lounge, and play with the finger paints, but try not to eat them this time.


Thanks GSM, hopefully it'll stay healthy in my tank.

[Mental1]

Aust95 -- your coral looks great -- neighbor!

[superedge88]

Just to keep this thread going...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/superedge88/04232008006-1.jpg
From left to right
Australian elegance
Indonesian elegance
Indonesian elegance (WAY off to the right)

The fish in the picture are
strawberry pseudochromis (back in the shadows
Scribbled Rabbitfish siganus doliatus
Yellow Coris Wrasse
Midas Blenny

[stunreefer]

Just out of curiosity, how often do you guys feed your elegance?

I vary my feeings from every-other day, to every four days or so.

[Aust95]

Thanks N-A-S-O, I don't know how to post pictures yet. Thanks for posting my picture. My elegance is increasing in size every week.

[stunreefer]

You guys wanna see something CRAZY???!!!



I witnessed this last night and was able to snap a couple pics. Check this out:


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/stunreefer/img_0619.jpg


Yeah. That thing is eating Stomatella snails off of the glass!!!

I couldn't believe it. In this pic you can see the one hes holding on to towards the top left, and if you look towards the bottom left, you'll notice hes got another one. He ended up ripping these two poor souls off of the glass and eating them.

[superedge88]

That is very cool! Any snails that fall on my elegance corals don't last long.

[Dante_JoseCuerv]

Well, I'm gonna jump in here. I just got a small elegance today and I put it about mid-way up in my 90 gallon. Now there isn't a LOT of light because during the day I get direct or near-direct sunlight in the tank so I keep some of the lights off.

I put it in this evening and about 20 minutes later it swelled up very nicely. I fed it some brine and it took care of those pretty well. I'll be posting some pics once I find my camera but I'm really excited. It's taken to my tank VERY well in the past few hours so let's hope it takes to my tank for at least a year or so. :)

[jadeguppy]

Wow, maybe I should move mine close to the glass for some free stomatella food! That sure would make feeding easy.

[Aquarist007]

very cool picture for sure--and here I have been worried about the size of pieces of shrimp I have been feeding my elegance--guess this shows you don't have to :)

[ReefEnabler]

Ive found they just spit out some of the shrimp if you give a piece thats too big.

the other day I was feeding a leather and a ricordia with reef chilli, which is a freeze dried mix of phyto and zooplankton. basiaclly about the consistency of salt. you mix it in a bottle with tank water and then just squirt it at corals.

I didnt think the elegance would be able to eat stuff so small, but my girlfriend said "why not try it" so I did, and certainly observed a feeding response from the elegance. maybe they are able to pull much smaller things from the water than I thought.

never seen mine pull snails off the glass yet :) awesome pics

[Freed]

Here are mine in my 20 gal QT tank. The one in the back(aussie) all shriveled up is one that came with parasitic crabs and just aboot died before I removed the crabs. That one is making a painstakingly slow recovery and is starting to open up again and starting to feed on mysis as well. The one in the front is an aussie I got locally when the other one started dying. That one opens up wickedly big and has amazing color patterns to it. It eats like this little piggy that had roast beef. I'll be puttting the one in front in my main display in the next week er so. That's what it's all aboot.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/25452Both_elegances_on_phone.jpg

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12461874#post12461874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
Ive found they just spit out some of the shrimp if you give a piece thats too big.

the other day I was feeding a leather and a ricordia with reef chilli, which is a freeze dried mix of phyto and zooplankton. basiaclly about the consistency of salt. you mix it in a bottle with tank water and then just squirt it at corals.

I didnt think the elegance would be able to eat stuff so small, but my girlfriend said "why not try it" so I did, and certainly observed a feeding response from the elegance. maybe they are able to pull much smaller things from the water than I thought.

never seen mine pull snails off the glass yet :) awesome pics

I think you are right--mine is on the substrate of a 28 inch high tank--the halides max out at 18 inches and I only spot feed it once or twice a week---so it must be getting nutrients from the water as a result of my other coral feeding routine

(I feed all corals twice a week with a mixture of reef snow mysis and cyclopeeze)

[Kamao]

I have a question. Ive had my elegance for over 6 months. Got it here in Philippines. The coral itself does expand, but not the tentacles, the tentacles doesnt extend like the ones i see here on the pics in this topic. I feed it shrimp a couple of times a week and it does eat it. It also ate my pistol shrimp when one of my other pistol shrimps snapped it in 2 pieces.

Is there something wrong if the sweeper tentacles doesnt extend?

[ReefEnabler]

how long has it been like that? how much are you feeding, and what size of shrimp? are you cutting it up? what lighting do you have it under?? could be alot of things including water parameters.

What fish is it housed with? I've had my elegance for about 7 months now also and its been through some ups and downs. Got really irritated and looked almost like you described when my clowns started hosting it, so I had to separate them :)

also had issues with light acclimation

Initially it was on the sandbed of my small temporary 20g tank but it started to both bleach and develop splotchy patches of brown on the underside of its polyp. this also caused the tentacles not to expand much. .

I used a lux meter and it was getting maybe 2500-3000 lux where it was at with 130w of PC lighting. was getting 250w MH at the LFS so no mystery there (wasnt intending to keep the elegance in this temporary tank this long lol). I know elegance dont like to be on rocks, so my solution was to build a 6x6x6" acrylic tank and fill it with sand to elevate the elegance closer to the light where PAR readings are more along the lines of 4000-6000. Ever since its started to regain uniform color but you can spot a hint of blotching in the underside of the feeding shot.

Here's a shot yesterday:
http://www.worstkind.com/aquarium/elegance/elegance5-07-08.JPG

feeding time:
http://www.worstkind.com/aquarium/elegance/elegance5-07-08_feeding.JPG
blotchyness on the underside used to be much worse before increasing the ligthing (raising it up :)


you should read this article on elegance corals by Eric Bornerman http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-01/eb/index.php

if your situation persists, you could be facing what Bornerman calls "elegance coral syndrome" or ECS. I've had mine look like that but never for more than a week at most and then it bounces back.


Good luck, and remember the more information you provide the better equipped people on this forum will be to help.

[ReefEnabler]

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-01/eb/images/Fig4.jpg

thats a picture of an elegance with ECS from the Bornerman article I linked above.

I've had mine go like that a few times but usually only a day or two. I know that alot of people repeat the idea that eleganc corals like 'dirty water' but I dont think that can equate to 'bad water parameters' in the aquarium sense. I usually notice visual improvement in my elegance a day or so after water changes.

[superedge88]

RyanBrucks, I notice exactly the same thing with my elegance corals, one of them is a bit more finnicky than the others, I know when I need to do a good water change when the one indonesian elegance starts "acting up" like you mentioned.

[fittiger]

Are there any good places online to get an aussie elegance? I haven't seen one on Divers Den in a while and most that I did see had dark spots located within the green. I'm hoping to find one that has stripes like this one:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11529564#post11529564 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sandeep
I absolutely love them. Here are a couple of mine.

http://www.tulwar.com/imagehost/NanoJan5_08f.jpg

This is a another shot of the above Elegance showing some of it's lovely structure.
http://www.tulwar.com/imagehost/NanoJan5_08g.jpg

Here is another one of my Elegance, this is a newly cut frag.
http://www.tulwar.com/imagehost/NanoJan5_08c.jpg

[superedge88]

atlantis has aussie elegance corals.

[Freed]

My aussie under actinics:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/25452Picture_006.jpg

[Freed]

50k does not do this guy justice.

[Kamao]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12497112#post12497112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
how long has it been like that? how much are you feeding, and what size of shrimp? are you cutting it up? what lighting do you have it under?? could be alot of things including water parameters.

What fish is it housed with? I've had my elegance for about 7 months now also and its been through some ups and downs. Got really irritated and looked almost like you described when my clowns started hosting it, so I had to separate them :)

also had issues with light acclimation

Initially it was on the sandbed of my small temporary 20g tank but it started to both bleach and develop splotchy patches of brown on the underside of its polyp. this also caused the tentacles not to expand much. .

I used a lux meter and it was getting maybe 2500-3000 lux where it was at with 130w of PC lighting. was getting 250w MH at the LFS so no mystery there (wasnt intending to keep the elegance in this temporary tank this long lol). I know elegance dont like to be on rocks, so my solution was to build a 6x6x6" acrylic tank and fill it with sand to elevate the elegance closer to the light where PAR readings are more along the lines of 4000-6000. Ever since its started to regain uniform color but you can spot a hint of blotching in the underside of the feeding shot.

Here's a shot yesterday:
http://www.worstkind.com/aquarium/elegance/elegance5-07-08.JPG

feeding time:
http://www.worstkind.com/aquarium/elegance/elegance5-07-08_feeding.JPG
blotchyness on the underside used to be much worse before increasing the ligthing (raising it up :)


you should read this article on elegance corals by Eric Bornerman http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-01/eb/index.php

if your situation persists, you could be facing what Bornerman calls "elegance coral syndrome" or ECS. I've had mine look like that but never for more than a week at most and then it bounces back.


Good luck, and remember the more information you provide the better equipped people on this forum will be to help.

Its been like that since i got it last year. It doesnt bloat up or something like in the pic you posted. Only problem that i see is that the tentacles doesn get long. I do have some clowns though who likes the elegance a lot! The female only rubs in it when the lights are off, but her partner is constantly in it all day long. I feed it small pieces of shrimp that i got from the store. I chop it in small pieces. For lighting, i have a 150w MH with a 20k bulb. Ill try and post pics tomorrow so you can see how it is.

[Kamao]

I mean that it doesnt look like the ones Eric Borneman has in his articles.

[ReefEnabler]

Kamao,

I believe that at night time is when the elegance is harmed the most by the clowns. This could just be pure guessing, but I dont think I am the only one to reach this conclusion.

At day time the elegance is expanded full of water and it doesn't look as if the clowns irritate it much. but at night time the elegance is shrunken down close to its rough skeleton and I think the clowns will 'push it' up and down as if to say "wake up, blanket!!! im cold!!!"

I think this damages the skin of the coral over time since I obseved mine go downhill after about a week of that happening.

My solution was temporary and ugly.... two sheets of eggcrate right down the middle of the 20g tank :) Actually started as one sheet but the clowns could actually knock it down so two were needed.

for kicks heres a shot of my clowns hosting the elegance about a day after it started. at the time I thought it was so cool :) a few people warned me it wouldn't end well but I didn't believe them.... they were right.

http://www.worstkind.com/aquarium/elegance/elegance1-30-08-b.JPG
1-30-08

[PiXieCath]

Here's mine. Not fully open, I've got it since yesterday.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/pixiecath/20080511020_640x480.jpg

[PoukieBear]

:(

I'm sad to report that my bautiful Aussie didn't survive in my tank. :(

I tried everything I could think of, but it just kept melting and receding away.

When I pulled it out of the tank this weekend, I could hardly stand the smell. OMG, it was awful.

This is my very first loss, of ANYTHING in my tank, and it was the worst feeling ever. :(

[Freed]

Aw, sorry to hear that. Where did you get it from? On line? What kind of flow was it in? Lighting? Eating? Did you post a pic of it earlier?

[superedge88]

She did post a pic, I believe it was on the 5th page towards the bottom.
Poukie, that is very upsetting, how did it act before it started melting away? Was it eating at all? I am very sorry, hard to have a coral like that die right before your eyes, makes you feel like you just watched a unicorn die.

[PoukieBear]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12525070#post12525070 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
Aw, sorry to hear that. Where did you get it from? On line? What kind of flow was it in? Lighting? Eating? Did you post a pic of it earlier?

I got it from a friend who owns a LFS. It was from Australia.

It was in a low flow area at first, then a low/medium flow area.

The origional lighting was too strong for it, so i moved it under an overhang. It did well there for a few days, then it started to receded.

It was feeding well, mysis and brine shrimp, the same stuff that I feed the rest of my corals and fish.

Perhaps the bright lighting was too much for it and it never recovered from it. i don't know...

I also remember reading (I don't remember where, but I'll try to find out for your reference) that elegance corals are sometimes affected by certain hormones released by some soft corals.

I do have a few soft corals in my tank, and I did prune back some of my pompom xenia a few days before I had to throw out the elegance. Perhaps that had something to do with it....

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12529571#post12529571 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PoukieBear
I got it from a friend who owns a LFS. It was from Australia.

It was in a low flow area at first, then a low/medium flow area.

The origional lighting was too strong for it, so i moved it under an overhang. It did well there for a few days, then it started to receded.

It was feeding well, mysis and brine shrimp, the same stuff that I feed the rest of my corals and fish.

Perhaps the bright lighting was too much for it and it never recovered from it. i don't know...

I also remember reading (I don't remember where, but I'll try to find out for your reference) that elegance corals are sometimes affected by certain hormones released by some soft corals.

I do have a few soft corals in my tank, and I did prune back some of my pompom xenia a few days before I had to throw out the elegance. Perhaps that had something to do with it....

Sorry to hear of the loss of the elegance
I've had trouble with gonipora from WTR in Misss.

I find I have to spot feed my elegance small pieces of silversides twice a week to compensate for it being in a relatively low level of light--and then I have to watch that the tangs don't remove it from the elegance before the food is consumed.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12505463#post12505463 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
Kamao,

I believe that at night time is when the elegance is harmed the most by the clowns. This could just be pure guessing, but I dont think I am the only one to reach this conclusion.

At day time the elegance is expanded full of water and it doesn't look as if the clowns irritate it much. but at night time the elegance is shrunken down close to its rough skeleton and I think the clowns will 'push it' up and down as if to say "wake up, blanket!!! im cold!!!"

I think this damages the skin of the coral over time since I obseved mine go downhill after about a week of that happening.

My solution was temporary and ugly.... two sheets of eggcrate right down the middle of the 20g tank :) Actually started as one sheet but the clowns could actually knock it down so two were needed.

for kicks heres a shot of my clowns hosting the elegance about a day after it started. at the time I thought it was so cool :) a few people warned me it wouldn't end well but I didn't believe them.... they were right.

http://www.worstkind.com/aquarium/elegance/elegance1-30-08-b.JPG
1-30-08

put an anemone in for the clowns and then they won't bother the elegance
My elegance shrinks up everynight on its own but comes back to full size with the halides are on.

[fittiger]

What does everyone feed their elegence?

If krill is the answer, frozen or freeze-dried?

[ReefEnabler]

capn I want to get a carpet anemone for my upcoming 220... unfortunately my only tank right now is the 20g holding tank I got myself so I could learn about/practice coral and fish care while setting up the big tank - and now I'll at least have a couple inhabitants to start the reef with! clowns and an elegance were NOT the best choice for this tank, and now I know that :) guess thats what learning is about... 7 months so far and my only loss has been 1 clown from carpetsurfing, and the gracilaria algae I tried to add once. never intended this 'temporary' tank to be up so long.....


it only has 130W PC lighting and no space, so I can't get an anemone just yet.

I feed little bits of silverside once or twice a week. I also feed freeze dried 'Reef Chili' to some other corals and I usually give the elegance a shot. sometimes I observe a strong feeding response to this, sometimes not so much.

[Freed]

Poukie, I'll be looking for that if you find it, thanks. I feed mine as much mysis as its tentacles can hold on to a few times a week.

[PoukieBear]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12532902#post12532902 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
Poukie, I'll be looking for that if you find it, thanks. I feed mine as much mysis as its tentacles can hold on to a few times a week.

So far, the only thing that I've found is from Eric Borneman's book, Aquarium Corals Selection, Husbandry, and Nartural History...

It's very brief, but it's a hint... "They are sensitive to the presence of many soft corals, and may be adversly affected by Caulerpa algea"

It doesn't say WHY they are sensitive to soft corals in this book, but I'll continue looking....

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12531711#post12531711 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RyanBrucks
capn I want to get a carpet anemone for my upcoming 220... unfortunately my only tank right now is the 20g holding tank I got myself so I could learn about/practice coral and fish care while setting up the big tank - and now I'll at least have a couple inhabitants to start the reef with! clowns and an elegance were NOT the best choice for this tank, and now I know that :) guess thats what learning is about... 7 months so far and my only loss has been 1 clown from carpetsurfing, and the gracilaria algae I tried to add once. never intended this 'temporary' tank to be up so long.....


it only has 130W PC lighting and no space, so I can't get an anemone just yet.

I feed little bits of silverside once or twice a week. I also feed freeze dried 'Reef Chili' to some other corals and I usually give the elegance a shot. sometimes I observe a strong feeding response to this, sometimes not so much.

suggest in the meantime you get a small rosetip anemone--mine lives partly under a rock on the bottom of a 28 inch high tank--where I know the lights max out at 18 inches
My rose tip loves silversides also---by feeding the anemone twice a week IMO it would be satisfied with less light until your other tank is set up and take the pressure off the elegance coral right now
just a suggestion;)

[fittiger]

I just ordered this elegance online. It is supposed to be an australian. I thought the base was supposed to be light on the australian specimens though. Here is a video.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/fittiger/th_Corals014.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/fittiger/?action=view&current=Corals014.flv)

Also here is a picture of it right after I acclimated it and added it to my tank. There was a fuzzy crab in the bag and I'm wondering if it was embedded in this spot where the tissue has receeded from the base. I did a tmpcc dip and the crab died so if that was the case hopefully any others that my have been embedded died as well. What are everyone's thoughts on this tissue recession and validicy of it being australian?

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/fittiger/Corals012.jpg

[Freed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12462015#post12462015 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
Here are mine in my 20 gal QT tank. The one in the back(aussie) all shriveled up is one that came with parasitic crabs and just aboot died before I removed the crabs. That one is making a painstakingly slow recovery and is starting to open up again and starting to feed on mysis as well. The one in the front is an aussie I got locally when the other one started dying. That one opens up wickedly big and has amazing color patterns to it. It eats like this little piggy that had roast beef. I'll be puttting the one in front in my main display in the next week er so. That's what it's all aboot.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/25452Both_elegances_on_phone.jpg

Good thing you removed the crabs. So far from what I have seen with my elegance and my brother's is that the crabs will feed off of the flesh of the coral. Mine almost died. My brother's wasn't doing well in the area that the crab was on his. I removed the crabs on mine as the coral was wasting away. It's been making a slow comeback for the last 4-6 weeks. My brother decided to remove the crab that was on his. His crab was HUGE! Ever since he removed it, his elegance has been doing much better as has mine.

[fittiger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12494904#post12494904 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kamao
I have a question. Ive had my elegance for over 6 months. Got it here in Philippines. The coral itself does expand, but not the tentacles, the tentacles doesnt extend like the ones i see here on the pics in this topic. I feed it shrimp a couple of times a week and it does eat it. It also ate my pistol shrimp when one of my other pistol shrimps snapped it in 2 pieces.

Is there something wrong if the sweeper tentacles doesnt extend?

Have the tentacles ever extended? Are you sure its not a fox coral?

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12566068#post12566068 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fittiger
I just ordered this elegance online. It is supposed to be an australian. I thought the base was supposed to be light on the australian specimens though. Here is a video.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/fittiger/th_Corals014.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/fittiger/?action=view&current=Corals014.flv)

Also here is a picture of it right after I acclimated it and added it to my tank. There was a fuzzy crab in the bag and I'm wondering if it was embedded in this spot where the tissue has receeded from the base. I did a tmpcc dip and the crab died so if that was the case hopefully any others that my have been embedded died as well. What are everyone's thoughts on this tissue recession and validicy of it being australian?

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/fittiger/Corals012.jpg

I see no reason to doubt that it's from Australia. It was in a good environment in the wild and grew fast, which is typical of what we see in Australian Elegance corals. Beautiful BTW.

[Freed]

Doesn't even look close to a fox coral.

[elegance coral]

Here's a little video with one of my Elegance corals. Top center of the tank.
http://www.sharkle.com/video/176277/

[64Ivy]

Here are my two: A pink tip and a purple tip, both sold as Aussies. I've had no problems with proximity and both are eating like pigs. I've had the pink tip about 5 months and the purple around 4 months.


http://www.moyesreef.com/uploads/Two-Elegances.jpg

[ReefEnabler]

Wow, nice elegances!

your signature quote is hilarious btw.... never heard that one before :lol:

[fittiger]

What is the best way to feed these guys? I thawed some frozen krill and waved it lightly in its tentacles. It finallly stung it and held on and brought the chunk to one mouth and held on to it there for a couple hours but not sure it ingested it as I found some pieces lying on the sand after the lights went out with nassarius and hermits eating it. It might have been too large though.

[64Ivy]

You may want to keep watch in case a fish is yanking out the food before the Elegance can eat it. As for feeding, twice a week, I use about a 1" chunk of thawed silversides and lower it into their tentacles with a pair of tweezers. If they're hungry, you won't even have to turn off the powerheads.

[Fedcopmike]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/mvalerie/March046.jpg
Sorry about dirty glass. Pink tip, loves to eat silversides/scallops

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12576430#post12576430 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 64Ivy
Here are my two: A pink tip and a purple tip, both sold as Aussies. I've had no problems with proximity and both are eating like pigs. I've had the pink tip about 5 months and the purple around 4 months.


http://www.moyesreef.com/uploads/Two-Elegances.jpg

what lighting are you using and where are the elegances placed in the tank

beautiful specimens:smokin:

[64Ivy]

I'm using a 36" Nova Extreme Pro T5 fixture with the bulbs that came with it. The tank is a 40g breeder and the uppermost Elegance is placed at about the halfway level.

[Kamao]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12571196#post12571196 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fittiger
Have the tentacles ever extended? Are you sure its not a fox coral?

Tentacles have never extended. Can you post a pic of a fox coral?

[stunreefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12575675#post12575675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Here's a little video with one of my Elegance corals. Top center of the tank.
http://www.sharkle.com/video/176277/
Sweet tank elegance! Love the giant anemone too!

[bv9999]

here is my


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/518/163918______3.jpg

[Freed]

LOL!! That thing looks huge in a 20 gallon!

[Qckwzrd]

How you tell if its an aussie or indo? I purchased one last night, I'll try and post pics soon

[superedge88]

There is no way to be sure if it is an aussie or indo by looking at it. They are usually sold as an Aussie elegance, and if it is just labeled "elegance" then it is probably an indo.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12598900#post12598900 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bv9999
here is my


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/518/163918______3.jpg

talk about drammatic entrances:lol:
[welcome]

[Shawnts106]

Hey peeople~!

Heres mine, still kicking going on 3 weeks, and eatting crazyily good!

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n248/Shawnts106/Elegance1.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n248/Shawnts106/Elegance2.jpg

[xokarmaxo]

Here's mine. Sold to me as an "Aussie Elegance". Have had it for 2 months now.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd281/kthorpe74/bristle4-1.jpg

eating a piece of krill
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd281/kthorpe74/May.jpg

Side view
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd281/kthorpe74/2elegance1.jpg

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12624907#post12624907 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xokarmaxo
Here's mine. Sold to me as an "Aussie Elegance". Have had it for 2 months now.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd281/kthorpe74/bristle4-1.jpg

eating a piece of krill
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd281/kthorpe74/May.jpg

Side view
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd281/kthorpe74/2elegance1.jpg

[welcome]

wow nice elegance---here I been using silversides or shrimp and cutting them up into little pieces for my elegance---he will be getting bigger chunks from now on;)

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12575675#post12575675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Here's a little video with one of my Elegance corals. Top center of the tank.
http://www.sharkle.com/video/176277/

how much flow do you have in your tank elegance?

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12597424#post12597424 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stunreefer
Sweet tank elegance! Love the giant anemone too!

Thanks. I kinda like the anemone too.:D

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12626194#post12626194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
how much flow do you have in your tank elegance?

There is a Magnetic drive 950 pushing through a SCWD. The tank is only 55gl. There are two small power heads going in the video. I had to run them for the anemone. I had to move the anemone to another system and the power heads went with it. The Elegance is much happier without the power heads going. He was huge today.

[Ivo Leong]

I got mine four weeks ago. I put in my nano reef. After two weeks the coral looking not so healthy.
Now is in my principal reef and, day after day, better.

Pictures two days after arrive:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/ivoleong/DSCN2594.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/ivoleong/DSCN2662.jpg

I post the picture in my principal reef later.

Thanks

[JRaquatics]

Here is an updated pic of my Aussie elegance going on 5months in my system.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/rvision/elegance-1.jpg

[elegance coral]

Am I being biased, or is this one beautiful thread? Awesome corals everybody! Keep um coming.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12713058#post12713058 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Am I being biased, or is this one beautiful thread? Awesome corals everybody! Keep um coming.

I agree it is one beautiful thread:smokin:

[stunreefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12713058#post12713058 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Am I being biased, or is this one beautiful thread? Awesome corals everybody! Keep um coming.
I'll 3rd that!!!

Everytime I see this thread has a new post, I cant wait to check it out!

Awesome corals evreyone!

[Ed Reef]

Thought I will give this thread a bump.... this is mine

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii30/EdReef/Elegant01.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii30/EdReef/Elegant03.jpg

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12784757#post12784757 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ed Reef
Thought I will give this thread a bump.... this is mine

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii30/EdReef/Elegant01.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii30/EdReef/Elegant03.jpg

nice colouring Ed
do you spot feed it?

[Ed Reef]

No - he gets whatever is left during my feeding of fishes... been with me over 1.5 years already and have grown twice in size since then :)

[Amoore311]

Man I missed out on the most gorgeous Aussie Elegance I've ever seen last night. The mouth looked like it was seriously colored in with a hi-liter. The tentacles were purplish and the tips were flourescent blue.

A fried of mine who has an online business had his first aussie shipment come in and that was on it. I let my friend buy it b/c he wanted the elegance so bad, and now I'm kicking myself in the A$$ lol.

[Chong27]

nice pics every1, i am thinking of getting one myself but was wondering if they are easy to take care of.

[Lowredranger]

Those are some awesome pictures i need to get a pic of my new addition up.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12787763#post12787763 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chong27
nice pics every1, i am thinking of getting one myself but was wondering if they are easy to take care of.

The aussie ones have a better success rate then the Indonesian ones.
They are not a beginners coral--you need a tank with very stable water parameters

[Chong27]

thanks for the info capn

[Lowredranger]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/66878IMGP34351.jpg

Here is my elegance I was told it is an Aussie the picture was taken 2 days after being introduced. Hopefully all goes well it had one run in with a fallen frog spawn trying to get the frog spawn to open back up now.

Question on feeding i fed it two small pieces of silver sides and it ate the one and let the other go. Do each of the mouths need to eat or is it always feeding the main structure?

Thanks

[stunreefer]

Lowredranger, thats a nice lookin' elegance you picked up there!

First off good luck with the frogspawn, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Everything that touches my elegance is toast, very, very fast. But then again, frogspawns are pretty hardy, and if it seems to have any flesh hanging on it might come back. Everytime I see something the elegance has attacked there is nothing at all left but skeleton (mine even eats snails off of the glass).

In terms of feeding, I think its important that all mouths are fed. If you frag these corals, you can frag between mouths without issues, which in turn tells me that they are individual in one way or another. I do not think the mouths "share" between themselves, but I'm not exactly sure. I'm not saying feed every mouth every time (because I know I dont), but I wouldn't feed the same four or five everytime, try to mix it up.

HTH and GL!

[fittiger]

This is just an educated guess...but I would imagine that you do not need to feed every mouth. The fact that Catalaphyllia has one large continuous oral disk would lead one to infer that it shares consumed energy, if not food in a shared digestive system. But thats just a guess.

[Lowredranger]

It has 4 oral disks and i think what happened is the same oral disk got both pieces and let one go. Do i need to feed all 4 a little piece vs each mouth?

The frogspawn is slowly opening a little more i think it will be ok it might just take a week.

[superedge88]

Funny thing about my aussie elegance, I have a green digitata that happened to fall right next to it, the sweepers of the elegance rake across the green digi and nothing happens at all. The green digi has been there right next to the elegance for over 2 months now, growing like crazy and isn't burned by the elegance. Weird eh?

[stunreefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12823205#post12823205 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by superedge88
Funny thing about my aussie elegance, I have a green digitata that happened to fall right next to it, the sweepers of the elegance rake across the green digi and nothing happens at all. The green digi has been there right next to the elegance for over 2 months now, growing like crazy and isn't burned by the elegance. Weird eh?
Thats crazy man!!! I'm, sure my elegance would've taken that out in a minute.

Is your (or anyone) elegance extremely sticky? Mine is just as sticky, if not more than an anemone. If I touch it, it ends up coming out of the gravel from clinging to my hand?!?

On another note, my elegance appears to be suffering a bit. I'm not sure from what, besides I did a redbug treatment a couple weeks ago. Thats about when he started showing signs of stress, including stubbier tentacles, which IMO/IME is the worst sign of them all. I'm keeping a close eye on it, but I'll be devastated if I lose this thing!

[superedge88]

My elegance is not as sticky as others I have, but I would still think that it would eventually kill the digi, but the digi is growing as if it is not even bothered one bit by the elegance touching it directly.

[schwenkl]

Anyone ever hear of elegance corals being sensitive to phosban? Just got my elegance yesterday, so it hasn't snapped out of it yet. Really shaken up from the overnight express. I changed my chemi-pure elite, yea opps I didn't wash it well enough and water got cloudy for a second, but my elegance threw a slime coating over itself. Everyone else is fine. Running a reactor of charcoal now, skimming hard, filter sock, and going to turn off phosban for the night.

Also, did anyone answer how you can tell if it is an Aussie or not?

Thanks

[superedge88]

No 100% positive way to tell if it is an aussie, but if you look at enough pictures of the ones being shipped to the US you can kinda get a feel for the coloration they tend to be, but again, no sure way to tell.

[Todd March]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/1370720gnano.jpg

This was a beautiful little Elegance I had in a nano tank about 5 years ago--it perished suddenly after 6 months, like so many of these corals in the past decade... I admire anyone that has luck with these--I have seen too many die...

But in the early 90's they used to grow like weeds--we couldn't kill them then...!?

[chris wright]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12826922#post12826922 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stunreefer
Thats crazy man!!! I'm, sure my elegance would've taken that out in a minute.

Is your (or anyone) elegance extremely sticky? Mine is just as sticky, if not more than an anemone. If I touch it, it ends up coming out of the gravel from clinging to my hand?!?

On another note, my elegance appears to be suffering a bit. I'm not sure from what, besides I did a redbug treatment a couple weeks ago. Thats about when he started showing signs of stress, including stubbier tentacles, which IMO/IME is the worst sign of them all. I'm keeping a close eye on it, but I'll be devastated if I lose this thing!

besides the tentacles being stubbier, is there any other reaction by your elegance? If it's still accepting food, I'd consider checking for gall crabs or any sponge growth on the skeleton. The crabs are a common pest that can really irritate a coral. Some sponges can bore into the skeleton. I'd take the time to check over the coral's skeleton. Other than that, it just may take time for it to extend it's polyp's again.

Good luck with it mate.

[SCIFI_3D_zoo]

But in the early 90's they used to grow like weeds--we couldn't kill them then...!? [/B]

Most of us have read about why this happened. But just in case some still don't know it's b/c our tanks were a lot less filtered in the old days. These types of corals tend to come from shallow muddy waters. The water is heavy with nutrients. Nowadays with our equipment, skimmers, etc. they just clean the water too much for them. Some people are successful but it's probably not possible to have one of these with SPS.

[superedge88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12844029#post12844029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCIFI_3D_zoo
Most of us have read about why this happened. But just in case some still don't know it's b/c our tanks were a lot less filtered in the old days. These types of corals tend to come from shallow muddy waters. The water is heavy with nutrients. Nowadays with our equipment, skimmers, etc. they just clean the water too much for them. Some people are successful but it's probably not possible to have one of these with SPS.

That is a guess that many of us with SPS tanks do not agree with at all. The more recent ideas as to why they have a bad track record include collection areas that are now deeper in the water- acclimation to light being the key issue, or a general illness that is taking out the elegance once it is stressed enough in a captive environment. Just to name a few of the more recent popular ideas.

[Todd March]

I have heard as well that the areas from which they are now collected are much diiferent than back in the 90's. That the original areas are exhausted, and the collecting of Elegance today is from much more different areas...

I have heard too that some are propagating this species from the original more hardy specimens --but have never seen "aquacultured" specimens of Elegance for sale...? Has anyone else heard of this...?

[jadeguppy]

There have been some people on here that have fragged their elegances and sold the babies. I don't know of any businesses doing it, probably due to poor profit margins. One more reason that buying from other reefers is a great idea. :)

[Aquarist007]

have you checked in the buying and selling forums yet

[Todd March]

Yeah, I sure would love to find a hearty Elegance frag--but I have specifically heard this propagation was on a commercial basis... I now think it was just rumors or wish-wash (or was possibly a failed venture), as I've surfed around a lot, and know a lot of folks here in L.A., and I've never seen them offered, no one has ever mentioned it, and they look quite puzzled when I have asked...?

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12844029#post12844029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCIFI_3D_zoo
Most of us have read about why this happened. But just in case some still don't know it's b/c our tanks were a lot less filtered in the old days. These types of corals tend to come from shallow muddy waters. The water is heavy with nutrients. Nowadays with our equipment, skimmers, etc. they just clean the water too much for them. Some people are successful but it's probably not possible to have one of these with SPS.

I'm sorry, but this simply is not true. Elegance corals will do just fine with SPS quality water. In fact they will do better. Elegance corals grow much faster and larger when they live on or near the coral reef, then they do in the harsher environments. This should tell us that Elegance corals will do much better if we keep our aquariums clean.

[elegance coral]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12845075#post12845075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
Yeah, I sure would love to find a hearty Elegance frag--but I have specifically heard this propagation was on a commercial basis... I now think it was just rumors or wish-wash (or was possibly a failed venture), as I've surfed around a lot, and know a lot of folks here in L.A., and I've never seen them offered, no one has ever mentioned it, and they look quite puzzled when I have asked...?

If you want an Elegance all you have to do is find a supplier with Australian Elegance corals. Ask your LFS if they can order you one. The Divers Den has them all the time. They do not suffer the same symptoms as the Indonesian Elegance. As far as we are concerned they are like two different animals.

[stunreefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12843250#post12843250 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chris wright
besides the tentacles being stubbier, is there any other reaction by your elegance? If it's still accepting food, I'd consider checking for gall crabs or any sponge growth on the skeleton. The crabs are a common pest that can really irritate a coral. Some sponges can bore into the skeleton. I'd take the time to check over the coral's skeleton. Other than that, it just may take time for it to extend it's polyp's again.

Good luck with it mate.
Well I've been watching closely since he looked a bit unhappy, and he seems to have snapped right back, especially after a 25% water change on Friday (thats my usual schedule). The only thing I can guess is that there was some residual interceptor in the water after my last water change that was making him mad. I hadn't ran carbon in a long time, and I hooked up some of thaty on Friday too. I did do a search for crabs and came up empty handed.

I'm just very happy to see him looking great again. Its been in captivity for about a year now, and I seem to think thats the make or break point for them. It seems they can go 9-12 months and still croak, but if your over 12 months generally they end up living for long after.

Thanks for the tips Chris!

[stunreefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12845075#post12845075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
Yeah, I sure would love to find a hearty Elegance frag--but I have specifically heard this propagation was on a commercial basis... I now think it was just rumors or wish-wash (or was possibly a failed venture), as I've surfed around a lot, and know a lot of folks here in L.A., and I've never seen them offered, no one has ever mentioned it, and they look quite puzzled when I have asked...?
Reef Farmers has an AE Elegance Coral. http://www.reeffarmers.com/

Also, you'd be very suprised to see just how many of the Aussie Elegenaces that come in are fragged already! Its very easy to tell, just look at the skeleton. If its a nice solid shaped "mini-skeleton" than you know its a baby elegance....otherwise you'll see its been cut off as larger piece. Most suppliers I've spoke with regarding this say that the unfragged ones are harder to get/collect and will fetch a larger price tag too. Its much easier for a collector to find a healthy large elegance and cut it into 5 pieces than it is to find five healthy baby elegances.

[joshalicialtjt]

ok well i just got my first elegance today and it seems to be a lot more green than the one's that I am seeing, not sure why. I put him in a few hours back and will be posting pictures quite soon. :)

[jtarmitage]

Here's my Aussie Elegance after it just got relocated into my new 250g:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn118/jtarmitage/Tankbuild160.jpg

[Todd March]

Stunning, jtarmitage, just great. Lovely vibrant pink tips...!

[jtarmitage]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12955874#post12955874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
Stunning, jtarmitage, just great. Lovely vibrant pink tips...!

Thanks. Just couldn't pass that one up when I saw it awhile back. I always told myself I'd never get an elegance. Guess I made a liar out of myself.:D

[SCIFI_3D_zoo]

http://scifi3d.com/StaffUpload/NewTank/elegence.jpg
Isn't the bloating a sign of distress and death? I was worried about it for awhile. Only been 4-5 days. Problem I think is coming from LiveAq. and being in a bag for over 24 hours. It is an Aussie.

[Todd March]

I have vowed the same thing after losing them all in the last 8 years, but I hear these Aussie's elegances are different--so like you, the first one I come across will be gracing my new tank....

[jtarmitage]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12955945#post12955945 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
I have vowed the same thing after losing them all in the last 8 years, but I hear these Aussie's elegances are different--so like you, the first one I come across will be gracing my new tank....

I have never owned one, mainly due to their historically "touchiness", as well as their ability to kill anything that comes in contact, which is a lot as they expand!
The recent success' had me interested, but this one was a knockout, so I figured I'd give it a shot.

[Todd March]

Over the last 20 years, I've only had one elegance sting some Zoo's and they bounced back. Not that you should shove it inbetween other corals, but I think their agression, as well as agression for other corals, gets a little over-stated... Maybe I was just very lucky, but I don't think so...

[jtarmitage]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12956010#post12956010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
Over the last 20 years, I've only had one elegance sting some Zoo's and they bounced back. Not that you should shove it inbetween other corals, but I think their agression, as well as agression for other corals, gets a little over-stated... Maybe I was just very lucky, but I don't think so...

Maybe so, but I've noticed the stickiness from the nematocysts when I have moved it. I don't intend to underestimate its stinging ability, so it's sitting in the back corner of the tank. It's actually a pretty good location as that end of the tank is highly visible, and it can bring a lot of color to an otherwise boring corner of the tank.

[Ed Reef]

I have actually put my Elegant corals too close to some of my SPS and yes, it does sting them bad with those parts turning white :( Maybe LPS are more durable but definitely not SPS

[elegance coral]

In my opinion, it depends on the health of the Elegance. An Elegance that has been in the hobby for several years without getting ill, will pack a serious punch. There's not much, outside of algae, that can survive within its reach. A new introduction or a sick Elegance will be very sensitive, and not fair very well when exposed to other corals.

[Rickyrooz1]

This was mine that I use to have, it didn't last more than three months, it must have been collected from Indonesia.

A month after I put it in my 120g.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/YellowBellyTang/elegance1.jpg

Once it started to deteriorate.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/YellowBellyTang/Elegance1-1.jpg

[bosborn1]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/bosborn1/img_7390cpy.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/bosborn1/img_7383cpy.jpg

I need to get some new pics of this one. Its looking even better these days. I've been able to frag it too.

[stunreefer]

WOW!

Awesome elegance bosborn1!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12961545#post12961545 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
In my opinion, it depends on the health of the Elegance. An Elegance that has been in the hobby for several years without getting ill, will pack a serious punch. There's not much, outside of algae, that can survive within its reach. A new introduction or a sick Elegance will be very sensitive, and not fair very well when exposed to other corals.
Same experiance here. Nothing can survive its sting!

[Lowredranger]

It took my frospawn 2-3 days to open back up after it fell next to the elegance. The tentacles on the elegance were also shriveled up a bit so I would say that they don't sting any more than frogspawn just my experience.

[bosborn1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12961545#post12961545 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
In my opinion, it depends on the health of the Elegance. An Elegance that has been in the hobby for several years without getting ill, will pack a serious punch. There's not much, outside of algae, that can survive within its reach. A new introduction or a sick Elegance will be very sensitive, and not fair very well when exposed to other corals.

Samething here. Mine will kill anything it touches. Except for my Linkia star. It seems immune. However my elegance actually stung and consumed a Strombus gigas. I was pretty amazed that it could catch such large prey. Now if I could only get it to eat the female Tomato clown that is hosting in it.

[SCIFI_3D_zoo]

Any advice?
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12955923#post12955923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCIFI_3D_zoo
http://scifi3d.com/StaffUpload/NewTank/elegence.jpg
Isn't the bloating a sign of distress and death? I was worried about it for awhile. Only been 4-5 days. Problem I think is coming from LiveAq. and being in a bag for over 24 hours. It is an Aussie.

[HKSTurbo28]

in the Elegance that Rickyrooz1 posted, is the bubbly tips a sign of an unhealthy Elegance?

[bosborn1]

FWIW mine gets the bubbly tips from time to time. The difference is that my oral discs never inflate. Not to mention when the halides are on the tentacles get about 6 inches long.

SCIFI_3D_zoo- Once they look like that I've never had one recover. Are you sure its an Aussie? I've noticed that many wholesalers are slapping the Aussie name on indo elegances just sell them at higher mark up.

[HKSTurbo28]

Mine display the bubbly tips even when the halides are on but the oral discs are not inflated, looks like a normal Elegance except the tentacles are not long and stringly, mostly bubbly with some short tentacles.