View Full Version : Reefkeeping 101 – Sumps!

01/07/2008, 08:59 PM
That is your best article yet! Well written.

01/07/2008, 09:26 PM
I thought so, too. Very well done, Marc!

01/08/2008, 03:01 AM
Thank you both. :)

01/08/2008, 06:35 AM
Thank you! This helps me alot in building my first sump.

01/08/2008, 07:26 AM
That's what I like to hear. After trying to write that article three different times, and then rereading it at least 10 more times to make sure I was getting each point across in a comprehensible manner, it was my hope that others would find it helpful.

01/08/2008, 07:58 PM
Nice article. Writing something for publication is just like preparing presentation. It takes a lot of work for your 15 minutes of fame ;)

01/08/2008, 08:27 PM
But Marc actually IS famous! :D

01/09/2008, 12:34 PM
I think we should all thank Marc for his vast knowledge and help with reef aquariums. He is totally devoted to making this the best past time ever.


Dustin Phillips

01/09/2008, 01:27 PM
:o Thank you Dustin for the nice words, and you are very welcome.

01/14/2008, 01:29 PM
Melev, if I were to use a rubbermaid container for a sump, should I use glass or acrylic baffles (I'm assuming acrylic) and what should I use to bond the baffles to the tub?

01/14/2008, 01:36 PM
Rubbermaid bins are rather pliable or soft. In those situations, it is better to stack bins inside of bins inside of bins. For example, water pours into the first bin that also holds the skimmer. This then overflows into the next bin which could be the refugium area, which then overflows into the final largest bin which is the return section.

01/14/2008, 02:11 PM
Interesting, I'll look into that if that's the route I go.

I'm incredibly impressed with your knowledge of all things sump-related. I've been browsing your site on and off for the past year and it's amazing what you have done. Thanks for keeping us all in the loop!

01/14/2008, 04:16 PM
I have a feeling the next section I do on my site will be all about plumbing. :)

joy solomon
01/15/2008, 12:32 PM
I'll vote for that!

01/15/2008, 05:19 PM
Dear Marc, your article on sumps was great, oh and your web site rocks too!
Keith Watson

01/15/2008, 05:34 PM
Thank you Keith. :)

01/15/2008, 05:42 PM
I thought it was great too Marc. I would have said that sooner but the fumes from the PVC cleaner/primer made me unconscious for a week. :D

01/15/2008, 07:05 PM
You're just saying that because you have to. :lol:

01/16/2008, 02:25 PM
You have me there as I'm DIY challenged. :D

01/17/2008, 02:51 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11599165#post11599165 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I have a feeling the next section I do on my site will be all about plumbing. :)

That would defiantly be interesting. I'd look forward to that.

01/26/2008, 02:26 PM
Thanks marc for so much info on sumps, as I am deciding right now if I should use a sump when I start my 75 gallon (reef) up, I have a good idea on the other componets (lights, skimmer, ect.) but I had no idea on sumps. I have ! 1/2 years experence on a 5 gal nano so I am a little overwhelmed by sumps. YOUR articale did make me think that I might be able to put a sump in to start this tank. I am weighing my decsion carefully, thanks for giving me so much needed info.

01/28/2008, 02:21 PM
I'm very glad it helped. A sump makes a reef tank run so much better for me.

02/21/2008, 06:40 PM
Hey Marc I am new at this so bear w/me. This takes water from the tank down into the sump thru the bubble corner into the skimmer area. From skimmer to the return area but it aslo sends water to refugium area and back out to the return area.So what you really have is skimmer to return water mxing w/skimmer to refugium to return water sort of like two avenues but meetung back at the return to go back up to our tank.
shewww!! Did I confuse you I confused me.
I think I want to make one for my 55 gallon but I want to really understand it first.
Damn Rookies.
thanks mike

02/21/2008, 07:24 PM
No, the water that is fed to the refugium is a separate line.

With dual drainlines:


With a single drainline:




02/21/2008, 08:28 PM
Marc so what happens his there are two pipes from the tank down to the sump. One straight to the PS and one to the refuge w/ a tee the PS. the refuge pipe stops short of surface and the water filters through to meet the PS water in the return area and up to the nice clean tank.

02/21/2008, 09:45 PM
That sound correct, if you are basing those comments on the first picture I posted.

02/22/2008, 07:36 PM
Hi Marc I am wondering if you could answer a couple of questions for me.
1) I have a 55 gallon tank I was wondering if a 20 gal fish tank sump would be efficient for fowlr and then eventually slowly adding corals?

2) what protein skimmer would you recommand? brand? size?

thanks mike

02/24/2008, 11:56 PM
Hi Mike,

Usually a 55g has about 10" of width under the tank within the stand, making it hard to fit a sump. A 20g long would be a nice option for that tank if you don't want to build a custom size in acrylic.

Skimmers: Euro-Reef, ASM, or Aqua C are all good brands. I'd look for something that can skim 90 to 120g worth of water.

02/29/2008, 06:36 AM
Marc I really appreciate all your help. I feel like the saltwater for dummies guy, but people like you taking time for us (rookies) makes it easier. Thanks
Happy Friday

03/02/2008, 07:50 AM
Marc how do you know if your getting acrylite or regular plexiglass. Is it a trust thing I guess.
thanks mike

03/02/2008, 02:39 PM
I purchase ArcyLite from my vendor. If you get it with paper backing, you can see it printed. If you buy film, it would be a trust thing.