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flyyyguy
02/03/2008, 04:11 PM
I was reminded earlier tod ay of this little frag i used to have......lost it ............but it was sweet and im curious what other white acros are out there. as in the majority of the body is white....not bleached mind you...but white

whatchoo got??

here is the frag i am referring to
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/flyyyguy/pics/sweetgreen.jpg

Znut Reefer
02/03/2008, 04:31 PM
Here is one similar to yours. The branches are thinner and its a nausta with purple polyps.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/ZnutReefer/IMG_0178.jpg

flyyyguy
02/03/2008, 04:33 PM
Are you saying mine is bleached Fonda?? :lol:

Or were you just trying to help me identify it??

lol

i really am curious. I got that frag at less than a inch...and cant recall ever seeing anything with that kind of a white base.......I want another one......

PUGroyale
02/03/2008, 04:42 PM
I've got several white corals you can have... mind you they don't grow much... at all...

Znut Reefer
02/03/2008, 04:42 PM
lol, nope not at all. Yes, I think yours was a nausta very similar to the one I posted. Mines base color is light yellow.

Hopefully you'll find another like yours. :)

flyyyguy
02/03/2008, 04:44 PM
lol.......ya.......thanks pug royale.......you dont want to see my flower/rock garden....ive got quite a pile of those white ones as well :(

LobsterOfJustice
02/03/2008, 07:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/LobsterOfJustice/Saltwater%20Tank/100_0934.jpg

Not bleached... maintained this coloration for 2 years before I lost it. Polyps were slightly brownish.

MCsaxmaster
02/03/2008, 08:14 PM
White but not bleached--that's a bit of a contradiction ;)

To be fair, some corals in extremely high-light environments will have portions of tissue that are very light colored (cream maybe), but "white" is usually not normal, especially at the light levels we work with in captivity.

Things are further complicated in that a coral really isn't either "bleached" or "not bleached": the density of zoox. and their pigments varies over a huge range. Having said that, normal zoox. densities are on the order of millions per square cm. A severely, severely bleached coral might still have on the order of 100,000 per cm^2. Pigment density of the zoox. (i.e., mg of chlorphyll a per cm^2) varies widely depending mostly on light intensity (at least in nature) while zoox. density in the tissues shows little variation within a species. Thus, to really get a good handle on things we'd need to look at the zoox. density in the tissues.

Having said that, those corals look awfully light colored given the modest light intensity we use in captivity. To achieve "bright light" in terms of a natural reef you could keep the corals 6" underneath a 400 watt metal halid bulb (not fixture, under the bulb), but who would ever do that? The coral would also have to be acclimitized very, very slowly to such bright light.

In nature, I'd expect those corals to have much more of a tan hugh than they do.

SPSpirate
02/03/2008, 09:32 PM
i have a killer piece of m.verrucosa that IS white with pretty blue polyps and on top of the verrucae is highlighted yellow.

flyyyguy
02/03/2008, 09:37 PM
pics aqua11878??

and mcsaxmaster...while i understand that.....the coral i posted held that same base color in two different tanks....one fairly low light considering....the other high light.....and then i killed it......

regardless...with that being said.............Anybody else have any continually bleached corals that stay that way over time and look good while doing so?? :)

LobsterOfJustice
02/03/2008, 09:44 PM
Here are some other shots of the coral I posted above. I really dont feel it was bleached for 2 years, and as you can see in these photos, it did grow much larger than the size I got it.

When I got it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/LobsterOfJustice/100_0020.jpg

You can see it in the bottom leftish of this pic. You can get an idea of where it was situated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/LobsterOfJustice/10-7-06BlueTort2.jpg

Later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/LobsterOfJustice/100_0756.jpg

Kip
02/03/2008, 10:15 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/CottonCandy.jpg

drawman
02/03/2008, 11:07 PM
Lobsterofjustice and kip, those are some very nice pieces!

werdlone
02/03/2008, 11:08 PM
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p148/werdlone/light-acro-with-blue-polyps.jpg

Not mine..but thought I would share the pic.

flyyyguy
02/03/2008, 11:10 PM
WOW Kip.

hong_asc
02/04/2008, 12:19 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d126/hong_asc/IMG_0091.jpg
Here's mine. A small frag still.

mr. pluto
02/04/2008, 12:56 AM
i'll play,


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/pluto123/coral%20pics/Picture059-2.jpg

Opus123
02/04/2008, 12:23 PM
I bought a piece that looked just like the one werdlone posted. After about a month in my tank it had turned green. I really liked the blue polyps but they are no more. I've moved it to the bottom of my tank to see if that makes a difference.

AudioAdict
02/04/2008, 01:57 PM
Sold to me as ORA valida but i suspect this is Nana.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g56/hybridnano/40G/ets%2012%2007/HPIM1476.jpg

moo0o
02/04/2008, 08:23 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11758032#post11758032 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kip
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/CottonCandy.jpg

whats the name of that colony ?

NanoReefWanabe
02/04/2008, 08:36 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11765506#post11765506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by moo0o
whats the name of that colony ?

creamy white beauty..

moo0o
02/04/2008, 08:55 PM
no way?!

Kip
02/04/2008, 08:59 PM
i called it a coupla things over the years... pink cotton.... cotton candy.... it was a "reef gem" from mac that grew into nothing like the original frag.

i lost it during my unkown illness issues of 07... a few frags of it went out, but I cant remember who received them :(

moo0o
02/04/2008, 09:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11765919#post11765919 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kip
i called it a coupla things over the years... pink cotton.... cotton candy.... it was a "reef gem" from mac that grew into nothing like the original frag.

i lost it during my unkown illness issues of 07... a few frags of it went out, but I cant remember who received them :(


=( to your tank crash and not knowing who received them. that this is beautiful!

143gadgets
02/04/2008, 10:38 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/PB070177.jpg

mjstover
02/04/2008, 11:20 PM
Hong_asc what is yours that one is very nice

Oldude
02/04/2008, 11:30 PM
Ok not exactly white but I'll play as well anyway. ;)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Trainer02/Jan282008006AdivaricataAA_edited-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Trainer02/Jan2308089purplecrossAA.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Trainer02/Jan1208pm085lokani111.jpg

hong_asc
02/04/2008, 11:51 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11767167#post11767167 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mjstover
Hong_asc what is yours that one is very nice
It's Acropora hyacinthus. It white with red polyp and blue tip.

moo0o
02/05/2008, 01:39 AM
oldude would you like to name your corals? those are really nice!

Oldude
02/05/2008, 09:06 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11767789#post11767789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by moo0o
oldude would you like to name your corals? those are really nice!
Thanks.
I believe the 1st one is A.divaricata, not sure yet on the 2nd and the 3rd I think is A.Lokani

Kip
02/05/2008, 10:05 AM
Oldude... i have one just like your 2nd... i think it may be austera.... the last you posted looks like granulosa to me

regardless... nice shots

Oldude
02/05/2008, 11:27 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11769285#post11769285 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kip
Oldude... i have one just like your 2nd... i think it may be austera.... the last you posted looks like granulosa to me

regardless... nice shots
Thanks Kip. It's funny, I had thought it was A.granulosa up until a few months ago when several people on this board corrected me and said it was A.lokani. Both species have similarities so who knows.

Canarygirl
02/05/2008, 11:30 AM
I agree about the second one being austera and the third, granulosa. :)

Zedar
02/05/2008, 11:58 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11757132#post11757132 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MCsaxmaster
White but not bleached--that's a bit of a contradiction ;)

To be fair, some corals in extremely high-light environments will have portions of tissue that are very light colored (cream maybe), but "white" is usually not normal, especially at the light levels we work with in captivity.

Things are further complicated in that a coral really isn't either "bleached" or "not bleached": the density of zoox. and their pigments varies over a huge range. Having said that, normal zoox. densities are on the order of millions per square cm. A severely, severely bleached coral might still have on the order of 100,000 per cm^2. Pigment density of the zoox. (i.e., mg of chlorphyll a per cm^2) varies widely depending mostly on light intensity (at least in nature) while zoox. density in the tissues shows little variation within a species. Thus, to really get a good handle on things we'd need to look at the zoox. density in the tissues.

Having said that, those corals look awfully light colored given the modest light intensity we use in captivity. To achieve "bright light" in terms of a natural reef you could keep the corals 6" underneath a 400 watt metal halid bulb (not fixture, under the bulb), but who would ever do that? The coral would also have to be acclimitized very, very slowly to such bright light.

In nature, I'd expect those corals to have much more of a tan hugh than they do.

Do you think its possible that UV could be responsible?
Such as not using a glass shield between the bulb and the coral?
I recall reading somewhere that even single ended bulbs should use a glass shield between the bulb and coral.

H.a.Z
02/05/2008, 12:02 PM
my white acro:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s237/hansatle/IMG_0976.jpg

Oldude
02/05/2008, 05:08 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11769873#post11769873 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Canarygirl
I agree about the second one being austera and the third, granulosa. :)
I thought this other coral I have was austera and the coralites are different:confused:
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Trainer02/Jan1208pm111purplepolypsmacro.jpg
sorry not trying to hijack but this is a light color too.;)

MCsaxmaster
02/05/2008, 06:09 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11770066#post11770066 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zedar
Do you think its possible that UV could be responsible?
Such as not using a glass shield between the bulb and the coral?
I recall reading somewhere that even single ended bulbs should use a glass shield between the bulb and coral.

Hmmm, good question. I think that could indeed be an issue. People very, very rarely measure UV. We do know that excessive UV can and does cause damage, including reduced zoox. density ("bleaching"). The very few people that have bothered to look (e.g., Dana Riddle) have found that at least some bulbs produce surprising amounts of UV--as high or even higher than the sun. In corals that are giving abnormal responses, checking UV might be a very worthwhile tool. Of course, it would be a worthwhile tool either way--we probably shouldn't wait until there is a problem to take corrective action. Unfortunately, UV just isn't that easy (= cheap) to measure.

tank121
02/05/2008, 06:34 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/nelsen121/DSC_0085.jpg

Kip
02/05/2008, 07:23 PM
not an acro, but very nice

leeweber85
02/05/2008, 07:52 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11758939#post11758939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr. pluto
i'll play,


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/pluto123/coral%20pics/Picture059-2.jpg



Awesome! What's the name of this? where can I find it?

mr. pluto
02/05/2008, 10:01 PM
thanks , i dont know & i don't know but i got it from
S.T. @ dynamic ecomorphology when he was selling from
that site a few yrs ago, it was maricultured.

tang daddy
02/06/2008, 02:32 AM
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/tangdaddy/IMG_2117.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/tangdaddy/IMG_2241.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/tangdaddy/IMG_2221.jpg

myzislow
02/06/2008, 12:33 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11773486#post11773486 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kip
not an acro, but very nice
What is it then?

Kip
02/06/2008, 01:08 PM
cyphastrea decadia i believe

myzislow
02/06/2008, 03:45 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11779257#post11779257 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kip
cyphastrea decadia i believe
yep, I think you're right. Thanks for the ID

Kip
02/06/2008, 03:55 PM
glad to be of service

Toyota Guy
02/07/2008, 05:28 AM
I wanna play too:p
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z181/cruiserholic/107_0748.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z181/cruiserholic/107_0760.jpg

flyyyguy
02/07/2008, 11:56 AM
So Kip.........out of curiousity........is that lovely "cotton candy" coral you posted bleached in your opinion???



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11772432#post11772432 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Oldude
I thought this other coral I have was austera and the coralites are different:confused:
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Trainer02/Jan1208pm111purplepolypsmacro.jpg
sorry not trying to hijack but this is a light color too.;)

That one looks kinda like the ora german green w/ blue polyps to me..... Not sure what species it is.......anyone know?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/flyyyguy/pics/250ss.jpg

leeweber85
02/15/2008, 12:06 AM
here's my contribution :(

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a253/leeweber85/bleach.jpg