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ThaNgBOm321
02/19/2008, 12:19 PM
hello,

i was wondering what was the difference between the delux RO/DI and the reef RO/DI unite?? why the big difference in price? how many gallons is recamended before a filter change?

YzGyz

BuckeyeFS
02/19/2008, 06:08 PM
I think you're wanting to know the difference between a Premium System and a Reef/Residential System.

Buckeye Reef/Residential Systems include all the features of our Premium RO/DI units, with the addition of a 3.2 gallon pressure tank, an automatic shutoff valve, extra tubing, and a long-reach faucet.

RE when to change your filters:
A good rule of thumb is to replace your sediment filter and carbon block after six months. A more precise way to maximize the useable life of these two filters is to use a pressure gauge to identify when pressure reaching the membrane starts to decline. This is your indication one or both of the filters is beginning to clog.

Also be cognizant of the chlorine capacity of the carbon block. The Matrikx+1 (“Chlorine Guzzler”) for example will remove 99% of chlorine from 20,000 gallons of tap water presented at 1 gpm. Original equipment suppliers commonly provide carbon cartridges rated at 2,000 to 6,000 gallons.

Regarding your RO membrane and DI resin, use your TDS meter to measure, record, and track the TDS (expressed in parts per million) in three places:
1. Tap water
2. After the RO but before the DI
3. After the DI.

The TDS in your tap water will likely range from about 50 ppm to upwards of 1000 parts per million (ppm). Common readings are 100 to 400 ppm. So for sake of discussion, let's say your tap water reads 400 ppm. That means that for every million parts of water, you have 400 parts of dissolved solids. How do we go about getting that TDS reading down to somewhere near zero?

If you do some experimenting with your TDS meter, you'll note that your sediment filter and carbon block filter (collectively called prefilters) do very little to remove dissolved solids. So with your tap water at 400 ppm, you can measure the water at the “in” port on your RO housing and you'll see its still approximately 400 ppm.

The RO membrane is really the workhorse of the system. It removes most of the TDS, some membranes to a greater extent than others. For instance, 100 gpd Filmtec membranes have a rejection rate of 90% (i.e., they reject 90% of the dissolved solids in feed water). So the purified water coming from your 100 gpd membrane would be about 40 ppm (a 90% reduction). Filmtec 75 gpd (and below) membranes produce less purified water (aka “permeate”), but have a higher rejection rate (96 to 98%). The life span of a RO membrane is dependant upon how much water you run through it, and how dirty the water is. Membranes can function well for a year, two years, or more. To test the membrane, measure the total dissolved solids (TDS) in the water coming in to the membrane, and in the purified water (permeate) produced by the membrane. Compare that to the membrane’s advertised rejection rate, and to the same reading you recorded when the membrane was new. Membranes also commonly produce less water as their function declines.

After the RO membrane, water will flow to your DI housing. DI resin in good condition will reduce the 40 ppm water down to 0 or 1 ppm. When the DI output starts creeping up from 0 or 1 ppm to 3 ppm, 5 ppm, and higher, you know that your resin needs to be replaced. Sometimes people complain that their DI resin didn't last very long. Often the culprit is a malfunctioning RO membrane sending the DI resin “dirty” water. This will exhaust the resin quicker then would otherwise have been the case. Sometimes the problem is poor quality resin – remember that all resins are not created equal!


Russ

ThaNgBOm321
02/20/2008, 06:21 PM
kool.. that good food for thought...

question on the auto shut off valve... is it really needed? what i it's purpose? ( to shut off what? why?) i plan on having a 55 gal drum as a resivour fro top off for my tank.. so that 3.2 gal bladder tank is not really needed...
will this BFS-161 Premium Series 75 gpd RO/DI System - $161.00 unit be efficient enough for a reef tank?

YzGyz

BuckeyeFS
02/20/2008, 06:59 PM
When you have a valve that stops the flow of purified water - like a float valve in your 55 gal drum - the float will stop the flow of purified water, and its the ASOV that stops the flow of waste water.

The Premium 75 is our most popular model for reefers.

Russ