H.Crispa update.

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

If you guys want to post your experience with your sebae you are more than welcome. This is what mine looked like last week.
First it was here...
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7136/hpim1989qi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Then it moved here...
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/picture202967dg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It decided that was a good place and settled in...
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8064/picture202971vg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Todays pictures..
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Does it look the same or does its color look darker or lighter to you guys? I can see its getting some of its green back and a bit of the purple. Unfortunately, those colors I am seeing are not showing up in the pictures. lol. Maybe in a month or so I will see a huge change.

[Bmgrocks]

It looks like its getting Darker, Thats a good sign , it seems healthy, leave it be, continue feeding, its good to see a healthy H.Crispa, Congrats!

[kimsie]

I think it looks great! Congrats Christina and thanks for posting this thread - I think it's helpful.

[garygb]

Looks perfect!

[marie]

When I posted this pic in dec I had my doubts it was a crispa

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/mariesnell/anem.jpg

But when I changed the flow around in the tank it now looks like this...definitely a crispa :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/mariesnell/feb20001.jpg

and for a growth reference the clown in the first pic is the little clown, the larger female didn't really fit very well before and never went into the anemone

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Very nice sebae marie...I like its colors..what changes did you do to the flow?

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

I know for sure mine ate a silverside yesterday. I watched it slowly take the food to its mouth. Made a mental note, mine doesn't like shrimp. Too bad its not hosting my clowns yet. I know its not a natural host for ocellaris but I'm not brave enough to take on a H. magnifica. I have seen ocellaris in a sebae before..I wish sgarron would post some updated pictures of the ocellaris in the sebae they have. :D

[kimsie]

Marie - beautiful Sebae!!!

Christina - Glad yours ate the silverslide!

I have to get pics of my new one tonight... It did move just a little last night - still attached to the rock I bought it on - but scooted over to the right hand side of it's rock - and back so it's now touching the back of the tank. Only question though is it's close to my HOB filter intake... Some of the tentacles were touching it - but it didn't look like it was being 'pulled' at all. If the Sebae decides to stay there - I'm going to move it. It doesn't have a strong pull at all - but still...

[reefman13]

I think I may have asked this question, but what is the lighting? Parameters?

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Kim where is the pictures?:D

I could see the digested silverside was coming out of its mouth today..ooh the fish loved that. :DI guess it was still full from the snail it ate the day before I fed it a silverside. Yeah..I think it ate a snail..the snail fell off the glass and on the anemone. The sebae closed up on the snail then opened up..I didn't see the snail anymore. So, I am assuming it was eaten.:p

[kimsie]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3948/initialplacementfi9.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=initialplacementfi9.jpg)

Trying to post a pic of mine... testing

[kimsie]

Christina - will you PM me on how to post images like you do?

[sgarron]

wicked_NaCl_h2o,
I haven't posted updated pics because the seabae somehow got a tear in it's foot and 2 weeks later I removed a pile of mush from my tank. Don't know how it got torn, maybe too much attention from the clowns. I may try another or I may feed these clowns to a monster Haddoni.

[kimsie]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11911558#post11911558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sgarron
wicked_NaCl_h2o,
I haven't posted updated pics because the seabae somehow got a tear in it's foot and 2 weeks later I removed a pile of mush from my tank. Don't know how it got torn, maybe too much attention from the clowns. I may try another or I may feed these clowns to a monster Haddoni.

Oh how sad!!! I'm sorry for your loss!

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Oh no..thats not good.. I hope mine doesn't have that problem. How long did you have yours before it died? Was it really sticky when you added it to the tank? Did it ever attach and stay in one place? I am just trying to see if the one I have has a better chance than the first one I got from divers den. The first one turned to mush in less than two weeks. Today is the last day of the two weeks for this one ..so I am a bit worried.

[sgarron]

it was very sticky, it attached, then unattached. it was also from divers den. it lasted 3 maybe 4 weeks. where did you get this one from?

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Divers den too...it is the replacement one from the first one. This one seems to be doing better than the first one I bought from them. I don't get it..yours looked very healthy sgarron.:(

[sgarron]

I don't get it either. It seemed healthy. It ate some shrimp the third day but wouldn't eat again after that. That's when I noticed the tare and it was down hill from there.

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

For the past 4 or 5 days my sebae haven't been looking as great as the other pictures. It also detached from the spot where it stayed for three weeks, mouth is open, and is much smaller then the first pictures.
Our water change schedule is 6 gallons on wednesday and another 6 gallons saturday every week.
When the anemone started to not look good we did a 10 gallon water change on saturday. so four gallons extra then normal. Yesteday I did a water change again to see if that will improve the looks of the anemone.
I didn't take a picture of it yesterday but I thought it looked horrible. All of its tentacles were deflated and it looked like a ball of stringy white and black stuff was coming out of its mouth. I hope it was just taking a dump and that wasn't its insides. Today it looks better but not as good..still haven't reattached to anything so I have to keep the powerheads off. Only water movement in the tank is the return flow from the refugium and the canister filter we use as a power head (there is no filter media in it.) We change the carbon weekly..

water temp 78F
SG 1.026
ammonia 0
nitrites 0
nitrates 0
PH 8.2
Phos 0
mag 1300
calcium 480
Lights 560 watt: 2-150 watt HQI; 2-130 watt 6 lunar

I hope it reattaches soon ..here is a picture
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/971/picture203012fh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[sgarron]

Christina, easy on the water changes. Too much is not good either. If your parameters are good there really is no reason to change more than 10% a week. It doesn't look as good as it did, but doesn't look to be dying either. When mine went it went quick, hopefully you won't find out what I mean. Good luck.

I decided against another sebae. I decided on BTA Island instead. I gave half of my 180 to what is now 3 BTA's (soon to be 4, the large red is splitting).

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa271/sgarron/DSC_0270.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa271/sgarron/DSC_0271.jpg

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Very nice bta's sgarron, do your ocellaris like the btas?..I hope this sebae recovers from what ever it is going through. I won't be doing another water change untill saturday. I tried feeding it two very small pieces of raw tuna sunday thinking maybe it wasn't eating the silversides. It looked like it ate both and fluffed up after its meal. Then the next day I noticed a piece behind the rocks. The nassarius snails were delighted to find that food. Maybe it ate one.. I am guessing this is what they look like when they are on the move.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5255/picture203014cvo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Where the circle is..thats where its foot was attached

[sgarron]

It's funny, they used to live in one back in my 65. They don't even look at these though. That's ok though, the anemones are for me. Not them. They can keep hosting in the fuzzy mushrooms and star polyps

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2812/picture203018yi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Looks like it is trying to move.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7167/picture203019io3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[garygb]

Water parameters look good, but obviously it's not happy. Perhaps the water flow in the tank isn't high enough, just guessing.

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

yeah, I wish I could turn powerheads on, but I am afraid it will cause the sebae to go tumbling. With it not being attached to anything I think turning a powerhead on might be bad idea. Yeah, some thing in the tank is making the anemone unhappy.

[kimsie]

Christina - I'm so sorry that it's unhappy right now! Hopefully it'll attach to something soon. Maybe it just took some time to adjust to your lights - and now that it's adjusted it's looking for a better/brighter spot? Just a thought...

[Arati]

Hi, I have a Sebae also. I have had it about 4weeks and it has moved alot. I think its kinda lazy, it doesnt like to hold on. Never really seems to lock its foot in/on.

I also noticed it doesnt like to eat shrimp. It takes small pieces of silver side, also mysis and bloodworms from the fish food.

It seems to be eating well and all settled in , next day its tumble weed city. I really hope it settles in soon, I am worried abotu a powerhead encounter.

with resident clarki.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/aratifingers/th_day1hosting.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v693/aratifingers/?action=view&current=day1hosting.flv)

[traveller7]

Christina,

Might want to try a trick or two. H. crispa is found in sand, but also on rock/coral substrate. Some have a distinct preference, try and split the difference.


I would try clearing away the sand all the way to the bottom of the tank, place the anemone in that depression. Surround the anemone with golfball/softball/football size rubble. Literally build a fortress all the way around it. High enough the flow can not lift it out, say 2" at least.

Then crank up the flow in the tank.

A Crispa that is 5" across the oral disk can easily extend 5" if it wants to, and a healthy attached one will do so laying right across the top of rocky fortress. In my case, tupperware bowls, but to each their own :D

Since your anemone appears to have it's tentacles shrinking, it is not likely getting enough food or actually eating enough. Doubt it will eat much until it settles down, so don't wait too long.

Best of luck.

[MIKE ALERS]

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[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

I don't dare mess with this anemone... once it gets ahold of my aquarium glove it takes about 30 minutes to an hour to gentally get it to let go. So I am a bit afraid to touch it or move it to place it in that fortress you are talking about. I am assuming it looks like this because its on the move. Its tentacles weren't looking this short when it was attached for three weeks. On monday it went back to its original hole and then went back into the open sand again.

[kimsie]

Hi Christina!

Just thought I'd check in and see how things were going today!

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

This mornings pictures with the MH lights off. I thought I was going to wake up and find it on its mouth. Last night it was on its side and its foot was all swelled up. Good to see that its right side up. I can't stand that I have to keep my powerheads off though..as you can see stuff is growing on my sand from the lack of water movement. Oh well..its giving my conchs plenty to eat. :rolleye1:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3997/picture203023pq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7509/picture203022tf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

looks like my shrimp have eggs again.

[kimsie]

Christina - have you tried turning on a power head at all to see if it's partly attached?

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

yes I have..and it almost made the sebae flip over..this was my koralia #2 that did that. I tried turning on one of the #3s ..that was bad. I still need to replace the #3s with #2s. I am going to try to put the #2 in another place in the tank.
I can definately see that its foot isn't attached to anything. Hmm, I wonder if the PVC pipe trick will work with a sebae.:idea:

[kimsie]

Sorry it hasn't at least attached to something... I'm suprised that the water movement is making it flip if it's that sticky. With mine even if the foot wasn't attached or dug in - the tentacles would kind of hold it to the rocks glass or whatever... I really hope it gets attached today.

Are you at work or at home?

[georgie1]

Hi Christine, ok I will try to answer your questions, Yes I have had my anemone 4 years, give or take a couple months.. :) When I got my anemone the tank was 8 years old, and I had bought the tank 2nd hand and if I remember correctly he had it 12 years. When I purchased my anemone it was bleached like the rest. In the begining I had my anemone under PC lights 496 watts but I did upgrade to Halide. I do feed the Crispa silversides, clams, squid etc . I feed usually 2 xs per week, more in begining. As far as target feeding yea I guess you can say that. I feed it with some cooking tongs, placing and holding the food near mouth until it gets a pretty good grip on it. Yes I have had to fight my cleaners off but I just gave them a little bit to keep them happy.... As far as clowns go, it took my anemone & perc 10 months to have a relationship, and sadly my perc just passed away. He was at least 18 years old..... He came with the tank..... I have just recently purchased 2 orange skunk clowns, which took to him within 15 minutes being in the tank!!!!! I was amazed. I right now run 2 Korolia 3's, powerhead 301, and a Fluval 404 which I want to replace. He is in the back of my tank with fluval flow back there, and the powerheads are more pointing towards the front. I will post a picture in a bit. I need to find one for Kimsie as well. I think I answered all your questions :)

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Ok, I think its looking better ..what do you guys think? I am going to try and feed it twice a week like you do georgia. I fed it a few minutes ago but this time I was able to watch it consume its food. Before the anemone was too fluffy and I couldn't see its mouth. I hope it stays where it is at now because its easier to feed. I am finally able to turn on one powerhead..the #2 koralia. After I turned on a power head the anemone started to close its mouth tight again and now looks like this :)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/358/picture203028cd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thanks for answering my questions georgia:D

[kimsie]

Good! I'm glad to hear that! I have the same problem with my bleached Crispa Christina - that it's so fluffy it's hard to see it's mouth! But last night I had success...

[georgie1]

Ok here is a couple


http://picasaweb.google.com/georgie72493/Sebae02?authkey=T0t2eLXEBAU

I really am not a good picture taker I am sorry....
The Crispa is also partially behind that rock and in a tall mood right now, lol so it really doesn't show it's true size

[georgie1]

I'm sorry my above post is incorrect I have 2 Korolia 2's not 3's!

[kimsie]

Ok Christina - How is your Sebae today?

By the way - I think I jinxed myself!!! Last night - bleached one was just fine - still in his rock cave/sand hole... This morning - upside down in front of it! pretty much deflated. So I flipped him back over... I'm thinking he tried to move maybe and my clown pushed him over? I don't know... I was thinking that where he was there wasn't enough light.. and that he may have to move from there - so hopefully that's all it is... but now I'm worried!

What's going on with our anemones?! This is almost 3 weeks that he's been in there and doing good!?!

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

oh ok georgia..I was wondering how you were able to have two #3's with out your anemone being blasted with current. I have three #3's and I can't turn them on. No big deal.. my xenias, frogspawn, hammer coral and LT plate don't like a lot of current just like my anemone. I'll just save the 3's for a aquacultured sps tank I want. Sigh, now about the anemone.. I think I'm going to try that fortress scott mentioned. I have only two rocks that would be good candidate's for that. The anemone was looking really happy with the #2 koralia on. Then I guess it was getting too much current and it was lifting the anemone out of its new location. I had to turn the powerhead off again :rolleye1: . At least I was able to see it eat some thing yesterday insted of the food going on its tentacles then disappearing.
Yeah Kim I think I might of jinxed myself too.. well it looks like I'm going to have to do some reaquascaping later on today

[georgie1]

Yea I was rushing to get the post out. I wish you and Kimsie the best of luck and if you have any other questions feel free to ask...

[elegance coral]

This is one of the H. Crispas I have had. Every time I would go to long between water changes or not change enough water it would detach and start looking bad. After a large water change it would reattach and start looking good again. A good tank cleaning and water change may help. Just a thought.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4299/elegance040dl0.jpg

[kimsie]

Oh Elegance... interesting - it is time for a water change! I'm scheduled to do one tomorrow! And it's been 2 weeks since my last... For a while there I was doing closer to weekly ones... Maybe they just prefer weekly changes?

[garygb]

Small weekly changes is better than less regular large water changes--greater stability.

[kimsie]

Ok - so what percentage would you to weekly? What do you think of a total of 5g weekly divided by my 12g, 14g and 30g? Or would you do 10g weekly? OR would you do 5g one week then 10g the next week? So every other week it was a bigger WC?

[garygb]

lol. That reminded me of one of those word problems in algebra. I would do approximately 10-15 percent of the tank volume per week. When I say tank volume, estimate the actual water in the system (including sump, if you have one) and go from there. I personally like ReefCrystals or Instant Ocean as brand. Do you use RO/DI water? If so, it is good to aerate it for 8 hours or so to drive off the CO2 and not "eat up" unnecessary alk. After aerating the water, add the salt, get it up to the right specific gravity and let it circulate ~24 hours (give or take), adjust the temp. with a heater and it should be good to go. You can test to be on the safe side for alk, ph, etc. I assume if one batch tests out okay from a bucket (I get the 160 gallon buckets) then I don't test every time--I just make sure the sg and the temp. are the same as the aquariums.

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

I do 10% weekly water changes on all my tanks.:)

[JJFly]

Okay, to many variables here. I have several H. Crispas. My biggest nems are 18" and 2'.

Leave your normal flow pumps on. Let the anemone tumble, this is a natural response as they look for their ideal flow area. Understand they want the flow to take food to them. They use the flow to go to the area where the food settles. Anemones don't like direct flow, they like moderate flows that bring the food to them. It will set its foot, down in the sand and under the lower edge of a rock if available. Then it will start to open really wide. Like a catcher's mitt in baseball. Waiting for natural foods to float into its snare.
(Hint: in the wild there isn't a hand that feeds every-other day.) My largest anemone parked itself at the low flow point of two pumps. I don't directly feed it anything. It catches mysis and tiny fresh krill every day I feed the fish. You won't believe how quick these little feedings will help you anemone outgrow your tank!

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

Ok, so far it looks happy with the place where I put it now. We'll see how long it stays there. It is all fluffed up like it was before it moved.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4931/picture203039gq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

just thought I'd show you guys how I set up the rocks
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[garygb]

It looks good. Do you know if it has attached or dug in? Now I wish I had space for another tank for a sebae;-)

[georgie1]

Looking good! :)

[Yinepu]

I just ordered one from LiveAquaria... the tank has been set up for a year now so I figured it was time to bite the bullet...

*crosses fingers and hopes Fedex doesn't get lost this time*

[wicked_NaCl_h2o]

I wish you luck Yinepu:) Please post pictures:D

[Yinepu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12052012#post12052012 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wicked_NaCl_h2o
I wish you luck Yinepu:) Please post pictures:D Thanks... I plan to...

So how is your's doing? Btw.. congrats on a beautiful nem!