Bubble King 300 External

[Kip]

The outlet plumbing of the BK 300 external is marked as 63mm. What is the feed intake plumbing size on the red dragon pump for the skimmer? I am trying to adapt metric PVC-U to american standard PVC size.

Maybe it would be a good idea to offer metric to standard adapters for us american customers. :)

Also, I just received my skimmer last Friday. Unfortunately, the collection cup arrived completely broken. The dealer said they'd get in touch with Proline and get a replacement. Then i read somewhere in this forum that collection cup replacements arent readily available. This is making me very nervous about my recent bubble king purchase.

Is there going to be a happy ending to this story?

-Thanks
-Kip

[Proline]

Kip
We have this on order for you ,shipment is due to leave on Fri .
we should receive it sometimes next week
When you deal with Premium Aquatics ,you don't need to worry about things being forgotten.
Regards
Chris

[Kip]

Thanks for your assistance. If you guys could work out that intake diameter or get with Klaus on it, that'd help me get this thing up and running soon.

The thing looks awesome... I cant wait to see how well it performs.

Thanks for the speedy response.

[Kip]

Thanks for your assistance. If you guys could work out that intake diameter or get with Klaus on it, that'd help me get this thing up and running soon.

The thing looks awesome... I cant wait to see how well it performs.

Thanks for the speedy response.

[Proline]

Kip We do have a few extension pieces in stock ,I can send it along with the cup to premium for you.
Regards
Chris

[Kip]

that sounds great... pardon my ignorance, but what does the extension piece accomplish?

[Proline]

Just the piece that connects to the T on the skimmer exit & also a metric 90 & a metric piece of pipe ,so you can have it go back to sump.
I am not @ work right now ,I am 90% sure we have all that.
I'll let you know tomorrow,you can always send me a quick email if you like.
Regards
Chris

[Kip]

any word on what size diameter that red dragon intake PVC is for the 300external skimmer?.... i have found a place that has metric to american PVC conversion fittings and i want to order one for the skimmer intake... that way i wont have to use hose

thanks again.... oh, and any further news you have about that cup would be welcomed too

[Proline]

Hi Kip
We shipped the cup on monday on their pallets from us & also an extension kit for you as well,give it a week since our warehouse is in WA & takes 5 business days for trucking companies to deliver from us to premium.
Let me know if I can help you with anything else
Regards
Chris

[Kip]

anything else= the PVC diameter of the intake of the skimmer (the red dragon pump)
16mm, 20mm???... i think i can convert it to 3/4" american PVC if i knew the PVC-U metric size of the skimmer intake

pic of the intake PVC in question...

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/BubbleKing/SkimmerIntake.jpg

[Kip]

i measured outer diameter at 20mm... just didnt know how exact that was... then i found a 20mm to 3/4" converter so i am assuming that will work

[Klaus Jansen]

@Kip...

the diameter is 25 mm.. This Red pipe is for connecting with Silicon-hoses. It is possible for glued a PVC-Connector, mm to inch...
Thanks for your Posting, in the Future we want glued directly the correct Connector.....

regards.... Klaus

[Kip]

thank you good sir

for anyone that would reference this thread looking for "american PVC" adapters for the BK External 300 ... here are the adapters you will need to convert metric to american PVC

go to www.mcmaster.com and search for item #s:
5460K12 for the pump input
and 5460K16 for the skimmer output

looks like it is gonna cost about $50 to get both of them, but if you just bought a $2300 skimmer...
.... what's another $50 :)

[Proline]

Kip
Thank you for great info,Keep in mind users input is what makes a great product better
Regards
Chris
Proline

[Kip]

got my replacement cup today

i have my adapter fittings

now i am ready to install it this coming weekend

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/BubbleKing/BubbleKingBackTogether.jpg

[Proline]

Kip
Looks great
Looking forward to see the in action Pictures.
Regards
Chris

[Kip]

quick question if i may

what is the suggested water line inside the body of this skimmer? i know this will vary for wet skimming or dry skimming, but wanted to know an average recommnedation

thanks

[Kip]

how turbulent should the top of the foam be in the collection cup?

mines been running for a few hours and i have it dialed up pretty high... not getting any skimmate yet, but the foam in the inner cyclinder of the cup is very turbulent.... like a jacuuzi .... should it be level?

this is the first external skimmer i've ever operated... forgive me for too many questions.

[Kip]

here is a shot of it installed, up, and running...

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/BubbleKing/BKExt300Installed.jpg

[Kip]

and here is a shot of the "foam line" after running about 8hrs .... is this to be expected or should i dial it up some more?

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/BubbleKing/Foam-Line-After8hrs.jpg

[tbone28]

the water line looks about right. it may still be breaking in.

[Kip]

this morning... the foam line has worked its way half up the inner cylinder of the collection cup.... i guess i am headed in the right direction

(just a little nervous after making such a big investment in a skimmer :) )

[Creetin]

Looking at your skimmer it looks like its still breaking in, (By the larger sized bubbles at te surface) If it were an internal i would say raise it up, But overflows are more likely to happen this way. I would leave it where ya have it. Give it a day or 2 more. IMO

[Kip]

yeah... thanks for the responses .. it eases my mind :)

[Proline]

Kip
Looking good ,the skimmer still breaking in.
The riser tube looks to be pretty high so I would leave it for a bit before trying to adjust ,once it's broken in ,it be easy to find the prefered dial for your set up & skimming preference.
If you are scared of overflowing ,I would leave a bucket underneath & just have the exit from the cup go ito the bucket.
Regards
Chris

[Kip]

i am seeing the foam level rise more and more... each time it rises.. i dial down the skimmer some more...

when the foam quits rising, i will then dial it back up to preferred skimmate thickness

all is well so far... just a matter of time before I have it in perfect working order

[tbone28]

that's great news, Kip!

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

Kip,

What flow rate of the feeding pump are you using? I have the same skimmer.

[Kip]

i am running an eheim 1262... has about 3-4ft of head pressure on it... and currently i have it dialed to about 75% (subject to change) ....so i am guessing somewhere around 500gph ... i cant remember where i read it, but i believe the recommended feed was around 300-600gph


edited: duh... the 300-600 rating is on the pump :rolleyes:

[Kip]

the dialing in phase of the BK installation is getting closer... i am at least in the ballpark .... starting to get some skimmate.... over the next week or so I will do the fine tuning

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/BubbleKing/BubbleKingStartingToSkim.jpg

the old euroreef cs83 is still running as usual so the mal-nutrients in the tank dont accumulate while getting the BK dialed in

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee69/Kip4130/MiscReefStuff/ERCS83StillRunning.jpg

[Kip]

for reference... thats is a 10" cup on the BK and an 8" cup on the Euro

[Kip]

funny thing is that i thought the euro was running the tank pretty clean with the wet skimming... but the BK is still able to pull that much more junk

[tbone28]

looking good, Kip

[Mako]

I like the adaptors you picked up for the intake and exit. I believe the 250 external uses the same outflow pipe size, but with a different pump I imagine the intake is not 25mm.

Chris or Klaus...could you tell us the size of the intake for the 250 external also? Also, am I correct on the outflow pipe size being the same for the 300 and 250 externals.

Would like to pick up some of these adaptors Kip found, but like him I need to verify the size required.

[Proline]

Chuck
Sorry for late reply.
I will try to open one tomorrow & let you know.
Regards
Chris

[Mako]

Looks to be 25mm by my ruler.

[DocG]

Originally posted by Kip
thank you good sir

for anyone that would reference this thread looking for "american PVC" adapters for the BK External 300 ... here are the adapters you will need to convert metric to american PVC

go to www.mcmaster.com and search for item #s:
5460K12 for the pump input
and 5460K16 for the skimmer output

looks like it is gonna cost about $50 to get both of them, but if you just bought a $2300 skimmer...
.... what's another $50 :)

Thanks for putting this reference up. I just ordered a 300 external and was concerned about the metric fittings. Now I am set.:beer: