Just a Thank you

[Ricky1066]

Ok Just wanted to drop another messgae to say thanks to all those who help out .

I got up this morning and thought my tank broke It is so clear it looks like it is empty. All My new friends on here said to leave it and wait so I did And after 5 days of My canister with 1 foam pad and 2 bags of chemi pure it is crystal clear.

All I am having issues with now is the top film whichI will try to figure out.

But again Thanks to all my new friends and support

[Deb91]

Ricky your tank looks good to be from looking at the videos of it! I think you need to relax a little and the film sounds like you might just need to tweek the skimmer a bit. BTW how do you like your skimmer anyway, and what model is it?

[Ricky1066]

I have the bermuda rogue It took a while to break in but I get a cup a day of black or brown water., It is hob and the pump you can see form the video.

I think Captyn hYLINER

[Ricky1066]

I really got to buy a new keyboard It types th wrong letters sends things before I am done as I was saying

as Captyn Hylyner said it made be coming fro mthe rock I have my heads blowing over my rocks and it looks like debris coming off the rocks

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11999678#post11999678 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
I really got to buy a new keyboard It types th wrong letters sends things before I am done as I was saying

as Captyn Hylyner said it made be coming fro mthe rock I have my heads blowing over my rocks and it looks like debris coming off the rocks

I have the problem with the keyboard too-- but it is usually after a few brown pops---a little bit of v in the oj for breakfast--celebrating your succcess:lol: :rollface: :lol:

Ricky, that's a class act, taking time out to run a thank you post--it is appreciated and thank-you right back at you:D

is the surface of your tank churnning---that will prevent the build up of organic laden water and help air exchange

[Ricky1066]

It seems if I put the powerheads at the surface it gives me air bubbles so i am looking for another way to keep it moving I have the return line going up at it but it is a canister and not really alot of flow but it moves the water.

[Ricky1066]

Hey Captn I tried to respond to your pm but it says your mail is full So I added a new post for it last night

[Ricky1066]

Did yo get to see that post?

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12002612#post12002612 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
Did yo get to see that post?

no I didn't see the post
that mailbox again-- I clean it out.

the capn has a new crew member today so I have been occupied

#4 grandson
Carter Scott 9.5 lbs:smokin:

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11999871#post11999871 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
It seems if I put the powerheads at the surface it gives me air bubbles so i am looking for another way to keep it moving I have the return line going up at it but it is a canister and not really alot of flow but it moves the water.

IMO its better to air bubbles then no flow on the surface. That film on the top can really hamper air exchange--and since you don't have a sump you need that flow on the top for air exchange.

[Ricky1066]

Kool Congratulations on the new Addition NOw buy a fish and name it after him

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12002868#post12002868 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
Kool Congratulations on the new Addition NOw buy a fish and name it after him

thanks-- I could by a little "poopinthedrawers" and name it Carter I guess:lol:

can you give me the link to that new post?

[Ricky1066]

Can.t find it no place I just checked all the pages

[Ricky1066]

Tried to pm yo uagain still full

All it was was the link to the ebay refugium if you go to ebay and type in refugium they all come up and here is th elink to mine

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7479/tanksump003ua2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12003035#post12003035 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
Tried to pm yo uagain still full

All it was was the link to the ebay refugium if you go to ebay and type in refugium they all come up and here is th elink to mine

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7479/tanksump003ua2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That would make a good refugium:
I would first drain and clean the sump. Then I would cut out the centre baffle and get rid of the blue filter foam.
does that pump have to be immersed--it looks like it doesn't
If you can remove it then I would and drill a hole in the bottom left corner of the plexiglass, fit it with a bulkhead

the other alternative that is easier is to but another baffle back in the sump just before the pump and make it high enough to hold a deep sand bed and chaeto algae--the water will rise and flow over the baffle into the pump area.

Now you have a good size refugium

[Ricky1066]

It is a under water pump yes not sure if it only works there or above. When you say bulkhead you mean?

also cutting out the middle plastic leaves no seperation for water o come on and out just one big bucket.

I think I need a way down SOck>? and then the water is blocked and flows OVER to the sandbed area on the other side of the sandbed is another wallto hold it in the the other side of the wall is the pump that goes up

Am I correct in thinking the water flows over both?

My question would then be as the water evaporates everyday would that not stop the flow as it lowers below the overflow line in the sump/refugium If the water flows over WHich it has to or the sand will flow through

[Aquarist007]

bulkheads fit in the holes you drill and act as a seal and a way to attach your lines
http://www.northcoastmarines.com/bulkhead_fittings.htm

that's the idea one big refugium--and you slow down the flow to it with a valve

if you give me the name of the pump I'll check out the stats

[Ricky1066]

OK will do that when I get home it is a eheim But I understand what you say no but that would be almost no flow then would that not damage the pump haveing no water barely coming out?

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12006488#post12006488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
OK will do that when I get home it is a eheim But I understand what you say no but that would be almost no flow then would that not damage the pump haveing no water barely coming out?

here is a link for enheim pumps--which one is it
the enheims can be run in the sump or out of it.

the input to your sump looks like about 1 inch tubing--gravity feed that should give you ~600 gph into the tank

If I can remember from before the pump is too powerfull and pumping the sump dry. There looks like a valve on the front of the pump--this should be able to crank down the flow from out of the sump so that the level in the sump and tank remain static--its all a matter of slowly cranking down the pump till the water level remains where you want it into the sump

if you ran the pump outside of the sump you would be faced with a similaer situation to this. Even though you can crank down the flow of the pump I would still install a valve where I have in case you want to shut the system down but you don't want the water to siphon back into the sump.

the tank was drilled in the bottom left corner and a bulkhead was added then the valve and then the line goes to the pump. If you did that you would have a lot more room in your sump for the refugium--you could have the whole section except for a small section that houses the filter bag and has a baffle to slow down the flow before hitting the refugium.
I'd say you could do all of this for 20 bucks--instead of forking alot more money out with a sump that comes like it

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/DSC_0053.jpg

[Ricky1066]

My sump ran fine just loud I have a valve on my sump and on my overlfow I had a constant level all the time It was just loud even when I put the valve on the line.

I am still confused on one thing ( and no I did not have any brown pops yet) The water goes down into the sock?Correct

Then i have a gap inder the plastic they instaleed where the water goes Under? should the water go under or over wher the sock compartment is I would think if it goes under there is a big gap for the sand to flow out.

Same as the other side If the water flows under or I hook my pump to the bottom won't I be sucking out sand?

and you did nto send the link to the eheim it was blank.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12008653#post12008653 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
My sump ran fine just loud I have a valve on my sump and on my overlfow I had a constant level all the time It was just loud even when I put the valve on the line.

I am still confused on one thing ( and no I did not have any brown pops yet) The water goes down into the sock?Correct

Then i have a gap inder the plastic they instaleed where the water goes Under? should the water go under or over wher the sock compartment is I would think if it goes under there is a big gap for the sand to flow out.

Same as the other side If the water flows under or I hook my pump to the bottom won't I be sucking out sand?

and you did nto send the link to the eheim it was blank.

water goes down through the sock and under in my case--I didn't worry about it
but if you set yours up similar you need to glue in a piece of acrylic right down to the bottom and up to where you want your water line--the water will go through the sock and pool there, rise and flow over into the fuge thus slowing down.
You would need a similar situation at the other end--if you are going to keep the pump in the tank then the baffle at the end of the fuge can be really close to it so you will have:
small space for filter sock--baffle--refugium--baffle very small space for pump

sorry about the link

http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/store_pages/category-info.php?category_ID=350

[Ricky1066]

OK got that BUT on the end where you have the pump on the outside Yo have no sand there YOu want me to put a sand bed in my I go tthat But if I do that and put the pump outside the pump in that spot will suck out sand? So I might be beeter off adding a piece of plastic ( you call a baffle) to fit the pump in.

THe my concern becomes that th ewater level drop as it does every day and the whole thing stops ?

I think The way it is now withthe canister (which I will clean out every two weeks ) is working ok

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12008997#post12008997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
OK got that BUT on the end where you have the pump on the outside Yo have no sand there YOu want me to put a sand bed in my I go tthat But if I do that and put the pump outside the pump in that spot will suck out sand? So I might be beeter off adding a piece of plastic ( you call a baffle) to fit the pump in.

THe my concern becomes that th ewater level drop as it does every day and the whole thing stops ?

I think The way it is now withthe canister (which I will clean out every two weeks ) is working ok

I got that too:lol: that's why I suggested a baffle about 4 inches before the pump--that would keep sand in the refugium area

You set the water level high so this doesn't happen past the level at which you top up daily

all this is suggestion Ricky---I'm not trying to sell you anything---i was just trying to help you not spend another 225 bucks on a sump that you could adapt yourself for far less then that
If your canisters doing the job --then go for it

keep in touch which I am sure you will:smokin:

[Ricky1066]

Captn captn I am not mad at you I take all your advice what I am saying is rightnow I have a clear tank and don't want to touch anything but While i am debating I can look into the refugium thing.

Again thanks for your advice

Hows the Grand son?

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12010434#post12010434 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ricky1066
Captn captn I am not mad at you I take all your advice what I am saying is rightnow I have a clear tank and don't want to touch anything but While i am debating I can look into the refugium thing.

Again thanks for your advice

Hows the Grand son?

I never dreamed you were mad at me----I just was feeling a little guilty coming on so strong about a suggestion and being the only one putting there two cents worth
I think are discussion was lost in the titl e of the thread
Everyone here wants to help and learn butsome are not into posting pleasantries as much as you and me and Larah---of course:lol:
You are the captn of your ship Ricky:cool: and the admiral of your wallet

That grandson is adorable--thanks for asking:

[Ricky1066]

If I had to pick advice here I am so used to getting yours ,demon.blktang.seapugs

I listen and take all But If I have learned anything I no longer and run out to get things right away.