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CaveManNOhio
03/07/2008, 07:57 AM
I found a web site that offers these cultures. What is every ones thought on adding these to your system? Good thing, bad thing? I could see some benefits to some of them. Would all of it become food if you put them in macro tank or cryptic fuge would they act as a seed and produce more for a food benefit?

AES offers a wide selection of live organism cultures for laboratory biotoxicology research, educational studies or live food cultures.

Artemia, Adult 1 lb, 1000ml
Artemia, Adult, 200ml
Ocean Plankton1 liter
Palaemonetes vulgaris, 50
Palaemonetes vulgaris, 500
Ampelisca abdita (Amphipod) 20 each
Mysidopsis bahia (>15 days) 20 each
Paleomenetes pugio (Grass shrimp juvenile) 20 each

saveafish
03/07/2008, 11:06 AM
That sounds like a big seed to a refuge. For a refuge up and running I assume it would be a good addition.

CaveManNOhio
03/07/2008, 12:19 PM
I don't know that I would add all at the same time, some of them are pretty $$. My system has been running for about 1 1/2 years.

mbbuna
03/07/2008, 04:04 PM
how about a link to the product you are talking about

CaveManNOhio
03/07/2008, 05:20 PM
Here is the link to the page I got the info from. If you look through they offer all kinds of unique stuff.
Aquatic Eco Systems (http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/6112/cid/1721)

mbbuna
03/07/2008, 05:36 PM
they are intended as starter cultures so i wouldn't expect all of them to reproduce in your main tank. im not saying that they wont reproduce in the main tank but that the populations would be eaten or starve out in the main display most likely.

these type thing are better set up in their own culturing tank and then you add them periodically to the display

CaveManNOhio
03/07/2008, 05:50 PM
Ok, that makes since. I was hoping that maybe in a cryptic fuge or macro with mild current flow they would hang in there more so and be able to continue on. But I think you are right with out a doubt that it would be better to set up different tanks and try to raise.
That would be the next question, how hard would it be to raise them and keep them going. Due to the $$ of some, I would hate to loose them to quick.

mbbuna
03/07/2008, 06:09 PM
i haven't cultured any of what you listed but i do rotifers and they are not very hard once you get the hang of it. i just looked around some and ill link any info i found below but i would call them and ask for info on how to culture what your interested in

http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/65/6/2527

http://www.setacjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1897%2F1552-8618(1994)13%5B1355%3APCALEW%5D2.0.CO%3B2&ct=1

http://yosemite.epa.gov/water/owrccatalog.nsf/9da204a4b4406ef885256ae0007a79c7/d18c7250171c559d85256b060072337c!OpenDocument

CaveManNOhio
03/07/2008, 06:34 PM
Thanks for the info.

el aguila
03/08/2008, 07:11 AM
Not to confuse things for you, here is a sight that several others here at RC hace recommended:
http://www.aquaculturestore.com/swinverts.html

mokeyz
03/09/2008, 11:20 PM
I ordered mysis, plankton and grass shrimp from aquaculturestore.com and they are a class act. I added everything to my fuge and the mysis have taken off like crazy.

CaveManNOhio
03/10/2008, 08:53 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12053112#post12053112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mokeyz
I ordered mysis, plankton and grass shrimp from aquaculturestore.com and they are a class act. I added everything to my fuge and the mysis have taken off like crazy.

That sounds great.

Thanks for the imput everyone! I will have to look further into this for sure now.