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fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 10:51 AM
i just got my bonesreef clowns and they are amazing!!!! they have tons of white on them! heres some pics!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/mattiskool98/Photo83.jpghttp://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/mattiskool98/Photo80.jpg[/IMG[IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/mattiskool98/Photo84.jpg

143gadgets
03/25/2008, 10:59 AM
They look awesome! Please post some close-ups!

tpdpercula
03/25/2008, 11:04 AM
very nice

Doni
03/25/2008, 12:23 PM
Congratulations! Even from afar they look lovely!

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 01:14 PM
yeah I'll get close ups but I can't right now. They are barely an inch long!

GSMguy
03/25/2008, 01:31 PM
those are going to be really nice in 6 months

racerw
03/25/2008, 01:37 PM
I love all the white on them. They will look awesome when they grown up

Mitch529
03/25/2008, 01:38 PM
Very nice, I bet they will look great grown up!

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 02:38 PM
thanks for all the compliments everyone! My clowns said thanks too! One of the smaller ones just rests at the bottom of the breeder net and swims around every once in while. The other 2 swim around. Is this ok?

Jovreefer
03/25/2008, 02:50 PM
very nice :) & yet picasso's with as much white as snowflakes still look better than snowflakes themselves IMO.

Lots of smaller meals thruout the day will do wonders for those babies.

fittiger
03/25/2008, 02:50 PM
Will they develop black borders along the white or are these borderless fish?

GSMguy
03/25/2008, 03:14 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12175902#post12175902 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fittiger
Will they develop black borders along the white or are these borderless fish?


they will they are just very young

ora picassos do not show black at this stage either

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 03:16 PM
yea they will get black outlines around there white markings. I am worried about the little one though.

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 03:25 PM
but will the one that sits on the bottom be ok?

Cramz07
03/25/2008, 03:42 PM
Nice clowns!

basser1
03/25/2008, 04:24 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12176093#post12176093 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishkid6692
yea they will get black outlines around there white markings. I am worried about the little one though.

As long as he isn't breathing heavy or looks stressed, he should be O.K. Keep an eye on him. BTW, like all the others have already said, Nice Clowns!! Did these come from bonesreef? Take Good Care of those Babies and Enjoy!

Heterodonut
03/25/2008, 04:27 PM
Awesome looking clowns! Yours have a lot more white than the ones I got from bonesreef a while back. But let me tell you, mine were tiny too when I got them-and they have gotten better looking every month. The white got whiter, the pale orange is turning to a bright orange, and they are now starting to get black. I'm thinking Picasso/Onyx looking maybe?!! As for the little one-I agree with what somebody above stated, small foods fed frequently should do wonders. I don't know how old yours are, but mine were maybe three or four months old when I got them? Babies to be sure-and true percs grow slower I've heard.
Again-great snag-awesome looking clowns!!!!

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 04:30 PM
yeah I got them from bonesreef. The little one was breathing heavy but he just started swimming around and he looks better. How many times a day should I feed them?

edwing206
03/25/2008, 07:15 PM
They look awesome! Got any more pics?

reefman13
03/25/2008, 07:36 PM
Talked to you about feeding;)

When I am over on Friday before heading up to the PC I will bring one of my cams and snap some pics.

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 07:46 PM
ok that works! i will try to snap some pics in a few minutes!

chica83
03/25/2008, 08:02 PM
i got my baby from ORA and so far its orange is getting darker and i believe its gonna be a she :p because how fast she's getting compared to her partner who is a true perc/onyx .
do you know if yours are grade a or b ? :p ....very kewl clowns dood

5iron
03/25/2008, 08:12 PM
great clown!
are those 3 starts or 2?
thanks a lot!

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 08:13 PM
there breeders choice picasso's. i'm not sure what they are but there the highest i think. not sure. they aren't cooperating with taking pics so this is the best i can do...i will try to get more when they aren't as shy.
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/mattiskool98/Photo87.jpg

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 08:16 PM
and heres a pic of the tank and the net breeder they are in. the only other inhabitants in the tank are a blue spotted jawfish and a small seahorse. it's a 40g so they will have plenty of room!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/mattiskool98/Photo85.jpg

reefman13
03/25/2008, 08:45 PM
I can see the iPhone is working...;)

And that you have changed around the aqua scape...

Looking good though.

basser1
03/25/2008, 08:59 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12178418#post12178418 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishkid6692
and heres a pic of the tank and the net breeder they are in. the only other inhabitants in the tank are a blue spotted jawfish and a small seahorse. it's a 40g so they will have plenty of room!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/mattiskool98/Photo85.jpg

Hey! I also have a blue spot jawfish with my picassos! How's he doin'? How long have you had him? Sorry if I got off topic! ;)

chica83
03/25/2008, 08:59 PM
very kewl dood :) .
may be the one at the bottom is just a little stress.
what are you gonna feed them?
my fishes lately are getting fed 3 times per day, Rod's food once and the other two times just ora glow pellets and they seem to also eat some of the coral frenzy :p

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 09:01 PM
i took those with my laptop and my laptop makes everything backwards lol. so it just makes it look like i changed it. my bta doesn't look to good. i think i might order that one from LA.

fishkid6692
03/25/2008, 09:13 PM
i am going to feed live baby brine shrimp, rotifers, live enriched adult brine, crushed flake food, frozen mysis soaked in garlic and vitamins, and multiple other foods.

Jovreefer
03/26/2008, 07:24 AM
Good idea to keep lots of different foods.

I got my little picasso's last friday from the same guy & I feed my babies about once an hour when I get home from work & I sprinkle alittle crushed flake before work.

The love rods food best ... I swear he puts fish drugs in his food! They get scared when there is alot of food floating around & they stop eating, but when I put rods food in there they dont care how much is in the tank, they chow down.

My older sibling picasso that I got in december took about a month to get a nice bright orange & as of this month the black tail stripe is filling in & it has black outlining its white stripes. It also looks like the front end might be turning black :)

Just keep in mind that these picasso's are extreemly young. I believe my first one was about 3.5 months old when I got it so that makes it right around 6 months old now. I think these new ones are around 3-4 months old too. Their potential is endless :D

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 07:38 AM
yeah i'm still really worried about the smallest one. he's the weekest swimmer and he has trouble swimming. i just tried feeding them some crushed flake but they didn't eat.

Jovreefer
03/26/2008, 08:00 AM
I would use a pipette & try to get some live baby brine down to it, its hard for them to resist live baby brine.

When I got my first ones I ask what they were eating & he told me crushed flake & live baby brine in the morning, frozen mysis chopped up mid day & crushed flake & brine again at night.

I just sprinkle the flake on the surface & they pick at it for about 30 minutes.

I feed them live baby brine the first day to get them eating good again after the stress of shipping & not eating for so long while in the box. I discontinue the live brine when they start eating cyclopeeze & rods food eagerly. After that I rotate feedings of rods food, cyclopeeze, crushed flake & pellet.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 08:14 AM
i am going to hatch some baby brine today. they started picking at the food a few minutes ago. i fed them crushed flake, live rotifers, and about 3 frozen mysis. they like the rotifers and flake but they don't really like the mysis. the small one isn't eating as much as the other 2 though.

Jovreefer
03/26/2008, 08:21 AM
Did you chop up the mysis?

If the small one is eating I would not worry just yet. watch him close though to make sure he's not grabbing the food then spitting it back out.

reefman13
03/26/2008, 08:21 AM
If the smaller one doesn't start eating WELL, gimme a call, I can come over, or we can organize something. You wanna mix all the food in at once so they start to get the idea that it is all food.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 09:02 AM
yea the small one isn't eating i don't think. i hope he makes it.....he has the most white on him.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 09:04 AM
btw can i turn my lights on? i have two actinics and a 150w mh.

GSMguy
03/26/2008, 11:07 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12181503#post12181503 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishkid6692
btw can i turn my lights on? i have two actinics and a 150w mh.

go ahead.

basser1
03/26/2008, 03:43 PM
fishkidd, I'm not trying to be an alarmist or anything, but if it was me, I'd be contacting bonesreef and let them know about the one you're having problems with. That way, in case of the worst, they'll have some knowledge of what's going on. Just my 2 pennies!

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 05:22 PM
yea thanks for the help everyone! I talk to bonesreef almost everyday. The small clown is doing a lot better and is swimming around more. They eat the flake food as soon as I put it in there now.

hyperboy
03/26/2008, 07:09 PM
i would seperate the small one, he might get singled out. i don't think trios are formed often. maybe pair him up with a rods (the ultimate clown bonesreef/rods). just my 2 cents. by the way, beautiful fish!

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 08:48 PM
ok i will get another net breeder. will they be ok until saturday? there only 3 months old.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 08:55 PM
ok i will get another net breeder. will they be ok until saturday? there only 3 months old. but one of them is 4 months old. i want the two smaller ones to pair up because they have the most white on them. the larger one will go into a diff. net breeder.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 08:55 PM
ok i will get another net breeder. will they be ok until saturday? there only 3 months old. but one of them is 4 months old. i want the two smaller ones to pair up because they have the most white on them. the larger one will go into a diff. net breeder.

hyperboy
03/26/2008, 09:07 PM
just keep an eye on them

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 09:12 PM
lol thats not a problem i watch them whenever i get a chance!

oceancube78
03/26/2008, 10:00 PM
ihave 3 picasso's in a 40 breeder and they always pick on the smaller awsome looking one, dont know why but it happens with my trio, i have to seperate them constantly, but i do feed alot and i think thats what helps keep them strong, they are always fat like pigs, and healthy as well, try and seperate them when needed, and dont let the little one get picked on to much or you'll end up losing him/her!! goodluck and bad a$$ clowns dode!!!!

EMBRYOGUY
03/26/2008, 10:05 PM
although these clowns are beautiful, the person you got them from is an absolute liar. he has lied about the parents of these clowns. no one knows where he gets them but they are not from his parental stock that he claims. he was asked to show proof of the lineage on an international breeders forum and to this day has lied about there lineage and still has not provided any proof of what he states.
he claims they are from perc lineage but as ANY breeder knows, there this is very very unlikey based on the age of dev. that he claims. again , many reputeable breeders have asked him to defend his claim and he can not do so. so although they are beautiful babies, RODS clowns are the best bec he is honest and you know what your getting.

he is attempting to fool novice clown collectors. i yet to find one serious collector that supports this person. so if you buy from this person, you are supporting someone that is not being honest with you about there lineage. RODs clowns are by far the most reliable clowns.

these babies are very very likely from an ora lineage. same body. and very very likely osc and NOT percs as this person claims.

EMBRYOGUY
03/26/2008, 10:24 PM
ask him to show you ONE pic of the clowns spawning, larvae dev. or baby dev. NOTHING. RODs clowns are proven and your supporting a person that you can trust and not lying to you.

believe me as a collector first, i fell for this guys lie initially also.

oh yes and he showed me a video of his clowns swimming around a tile, NO EGGs NO SPAWN, just them swimming around a tile. also showed me pics of supposedly his setup with NO CLOWNS in it or NO babies in any tanks. yeah so im purturbed bec i do not like being lied to.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 10:28 PM
i disagree with you because first of all you are saying they are ocellaris and not percs. that would meen that they were snowflakes. i am positive that they are not ocellaris. second i trust bones 100%. can you show proof of what you say? maybe you like RODS better and you are entitled to your opinion but i like BONES.

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 10:31 PM
thats still not proof.............

Chelsey
03/26/2008, 10:43 PM
Here we go... :rolleyes:


Regardless of the source, I think your clowns are very nice. Please be sure to post pics when they start getting blacker, I'm sure they'll be spectacular :)

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 10:57 PM
thanks! 2 of them already have black tips on there fins. i can't wait until they get all of there color!

ILLiDaN
03/26/2008, 11:22 PM
so then are ORA clowns not 100 percent true percs?

fishkid6692
03/26/2008, 11:30 PM
my clowns aren't from ora........they are from bonesreef.

Mojo Jojo
03/27/2008, 12:09 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12187012#post12187012 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EMBRYOGUY
RODs clowns are by far the most reliable clowns.

I will have to agree with Embryo on this. Rod is by far the best person I have met in this hobby.

Just to throw in my .02 I contacted bones once about going up there to pick my clowns. I never got a response from him.

I am not a clown breeder, more like a clown collector. Brings up a good question of... Has anybody on here seen his setup in person?

traveller7
03/27/2008, 07:10 AM
There are few issues here, one of which, the vendor discussed is unable to respond or provide clarification.

I don't see this one going anywhere in support of Reef Central's mission statement.