Tyree BGM vs WWC BGM

[neyugn0w01]

$452.50. That's the closing price for a 1/4" of BGM on reeffarmers auction. Why not just buy the BGM from WWC or others selling them in the classified for $150-$225 a frag? Does the name Tyree really double the price of a coral even when its the same coral?

[143gadgets]

I pretty sure it's sold out on WWC.

[Ian]

450?? Thats rediculous...

[Echidna09]

Seriously though, I doubt that it would go over $200 if it were not labeled Tyree.

[JOSE CASAS]

I dont i only sell that piece for no less than $225

[Echidna09]

...Maybe $250 then... I recently spent this much on a couple of chalices. However, that was at a retail site, and if I were buying from a hobbiest I would have not paid more than $200 for a similar sized frag.

That's just me though, and I am just getting into the LE/rare chalices. Once I can start fragging more of my colonies I may consider paying more per coral since I would be able to put profits from my tank back into it, instead of adding to my tank debt :).

[143gadgets]

I don't think the price is unreasonable, but that's my opinion. If i like something I'll pay a premium price for it. It's an auction and someone felt it was worth that much to them. I can't fault them for that. It's a sweet piece!

[Kigs]

I don't think the name Tyree necessarily contributed to such high price in this case... It was an auction where the max value is decided by the bidders whereas on WWC or RC, the final value is predetermined by the sellers. The Melting Pot chalice didn't have Tyree's name on it and look how high it went on ebay few months back. :o

[neyugn0w01]

For comparison, I have the Emerald Mummy Eye, the regular Mummy Eye, the BGM, and another chalice similar but with a much larger orange/pink mouth. Looking at all 4 next to each other, you might be able to tell the difference, but standing alone, they look too similar to even be consider different (except the one with the larger mouth). I will try to take some pics when I have some time.

[Kigs]

I know this is slightly OT, but I'd love to see a comparison shot of ME and BGM. I can def. tell the difference between EME and ME, but for the life of me I can't tell the difference between ME and BGM. Is this a case of Tyree just attatching his name to a previously "named" coral? Kinda like Miami Hurricane and Pumpkin Patch. Not trying to cause any drama or anything...but simply for clarity. :)

Here's an old pic of my ME[left] and EME next to each other, I'll get some updated/better shots.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l94/vsny2k5/DSC03689.jpg

[kev apsley]

this is what happens when a bidding war takes place on an auction site, I was following that auction and it just kept going up and up, the same thing happened with the Pot O Gold favia, two polyps sold for $116.50

[Echidna09]

Kigs- On Tyree's site it shows a comparison between the BGM and ME. After seeing that, I see no point in getting the BGM over the ME. The Mummy Eye is much more vibrant and colorful throughout the entire coral, and the Bubble Gum Monster close up is more drab.

[neyugn0w01]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12218569#post12218569 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Echidna09
Kigs- On Tyree's site it shows a comparison between the BGM and ME. After seeing that, I see no point in getting the BGM over the ME. The Mummy Eye is much more vibrant and colorful throughout the entire coral, and the Bubble Gum Monster close up is more drab.

You should check out the EME. That piece just glows.

[sharkbyte1023]

I was at the store to get my frag of the bubble gum monster this past weekend and the photo on RF does not do that coral justice. I was much more impressed when i saw the mother colony in person. I held off getting a frag because of the pics i saw. Definately an impressive piece.

[143gadgets]

I am tryin to get ahold of a mummy eye and emerald ME. Then I can compare them, but I'm pretty sure they are all different.

[sharkbyte1023]

Gadgets... I have all of them and there is a difference in them. All of my pieces are small frags so maybe things will change more as they grow.

[slojmn]

My 2 cents worth on looks and differences: The BGM seems to have a redder/pink mouth which seems to be bigger than the Mummy Eye mouths, which appear more oragneish...but the Mummy Eye can get big mouths going (have you seen Jose's avatar? :)). The greens are also different in the body. Since neither of mine are anymore than frags time will tell the true differences. The EME is totally different than both the others...I can get it to go blue with nice big pink/red eyes out in the light or more of an emerald green with bluish tint in the shade. It is fun to play with these chalices in different lighting around the tank.

As far as prices, it is crazy sometimes. I was pretty surprised to see that melting pot go for so much. I have not seen much of it since...anyone got a picture of it recently???

But, who am I to talk or judge, which I don't really do when it comes to prices. I bought the first ever auctioned LE Red Watermelon for some crazy price 2+ years ago...$370ish as I recall. That is the most I have paid for a coral. Now fish, that is a different story, I;ve spent more than I care to talk about on a number of my fish...and you can't frag them to get your initial investment back, lol ;).

[143gadgets]

Cool! Thanks for the info!

[neyugn0w01]

Here's a shot of my "no name" chalice that is similar to the reverse watermelon morph. Its the one with the larger orange mouth next to the EME.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/neyugn0w01/newmummy2.jpg

[All Delight]

The picture of the BGM on Tyrees site is horrible. That part of tyrees frag is the part that was growing on the side and partially underneath. It wasn't getting adequate light. Its a very bad picture. Victors picture is much nicer.

[143gadgets]

I'm new to this so I don't know which is which. They both look sweet though. :)

[JUICE!]

here is the mother colony shot. I agree, the tyree picture is bad.


http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t17/djdlux2005/chalice/bubblegummonster2.jpg

the main difference I can see is that the BGM gets a bunch of blue or turquoise colors in the undertones. They are similar, however.

If the pumpkin patch is holding strong at $225, I would expect the BGM to be worth more than that.....it is a MUCH prettier coral IMO

[JUICE!]

that is the colony that tyree's piece came from....as well as mine, and jose's.......and everyone else for that matter.

WWC named the coral "bubblegum monster", tyree saw something special in the coral, and decided it was worth holding on to and releasing as a limited edition, so now it is referred to as the tyree bubblegum monster. Whether you got the coral from tyree or WWC, it's still the same coral.

My pumpkin patch came from that side of the lineage. Does that mean it isn't a miami hurricane chalice?

[JOSE CASAS]

I have the BGM LE,MH LE,ME,EME and all are unique in there own way from growth pattern,color,tecture and to say one looks like the other not in my tank.All can be fragg and i can still tell the diffrence.That is why i have them all and iam compulsive lol.Its funny because when i first saw the pix of the BGM LE i had to have it,so i contacted Victor and i told him i had to have it.At that time i knew and i told Victor that it would be a Le.

Darrell has seen my corals first hand so he knows.:)

This hobby has only brought me joy and i have met and made new friends I REALLY LOVE THIS HOBBY!:)

[SaraB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12224237#post12224237 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by slojmn
. I was pretty surprised to see that melting pot go for so much. I have not seen much of it since...anyone got a picture of it recently???


I don't have a photo of it, but it's not yet colored up for me yet either. It had a chilly trip here from NY and I had it under some not so great lighting at first. It's now under a Hamilton 14K and the colors are in the dark pink scales. I believe it had the colors in the photo's from T-5's, so I plan on cutting the piece in half and moving part of it into another system when it's set-up that will have some T-5 lighting to see how the color transforms. When it's moved, I'll have a better chance of photographing it! FYI - I was not the winner of the ebay auction piece at that higher price!

Also, can someone please PM me to tell me where to find the "Tyree Website" that's being mentioned?

[JUICE!]

reef farmers

[All Delight]

Personally I was not impressed much by the EME. In my opinion, the Mummy eye and BGM looks the best.

Put it this way, I had an opportunity to purchased the EME at a very good price and I passed on it.

But everyone likes different things, so someone else may think the EME looks the best. Or maybe I saw a piece that didn't do it any justice.

The real test would be to post all 3 next to each other and see how many people can identify each one correctly. :)

[SaraB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12227747#post12227747 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JUICEY
reef farmers

Thank you, I'll search that!

[All Delight]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12228480#post12228480 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by All Delight
Personally I was not impressed much by the EME. In my opinion, the Mummy eye and BGM looks the best.

Put it this way, I had an opportunity to purchased the EME at a very good price and I passed on it. Or maybe the EME that I saw for sale just didn't look good. Looking at the BGM on Tyrees site isn't impressive at all, but I know what its supposed to look so I have that image in my head.

But everyone likes different things, so someone else may think the EME looks the best.

The real test would be to post all 3 next to each other and see how many people can identify each one correctly. :)

[JUICE!]

I think that is your cue Jose :-D

[sharkbyte1023]

Sara...I was the one who won the auction on ebay for the melting pot. So far i can say i am not impressed for what i paid. The frag was well healed when i got itand i have had it for awhile now. It is a brownish background with some greenish and yellowish starting to show. Those colors only started to show when i moved it out closer to a 250 watt 20k. Hopefully it gets better with time.

[JOSE CASAS]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12229395#post12229395 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sharkbyte1023
Sara...I was the one who won the auction on ebay for the melting pot. So far i can say i am not impressed for what i paid. The frag was well healed when i got itand i have had it for awhile now. It is a brownish background with some greenish and yellowish starting to show. Those colors only started to show when i moved it out closer to a 250 watt 20k. Hopefully it gets better with time. How big was the size you purchased if you dont mind me asking ,thanks.

[sharkbyte1023]

It's a decent size. I would say about 2"x2". Victor mentioned your name this past weekend when i was up there.

[SaraB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12229395#post12229395 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sharkbyte1023
Sara...I was the one who won the auction on ebay for the melting pot. So far i can say i am not impressed for what i paid. The frag was well healed when i got itand i have had it for awhile now. It is a brownish background with some greenish and yellowish starting to show. Those colors only started to show when i moved it out closer to a 250 watt 20k. Hopefully it gets better with time.

I received mine November 13th. It was under a 250W SE 6500K bulb until February 1st. I was going for growth rather than color and I was sick of seeing various shades of poo brown in all my frags! I changed out to the 14K on February 1st and it's developing the pink variation colors now. It's in my frag tank now, but I could move it upstairs to get a photo I guess. ktar ran T-5's and I guess you need those to get those colors. Like I said, I'll try that next as I have not lost hope for it yet!

[Znut Reefer]

I also have the melted pot from Ktar. I have it under 12K Reeflux 250"s. It's starting to color up nicely for me.

[JOSE CASAS]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12229973#post12229973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sharkbyte1023
It's a decent size. I would say about 2"x2". Victor mentioned your name this past weekend when i was up there. Victor is my newbie friend and i talk to him at least once a day.:)

[JUICE!]

Victor is a good friend of mine also.......hardly a newbie though.

....Oh, you prolly meant "new friend" huh?

[WWC]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12234635#post12234635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JUICEY
Victor is a good friend of mine also.......hardly a newbie though.

....Oh, you prolly meant "new friend" huh?


LOL:mad2: you guys are so funny, NOT,lol bunch of newbies:D

[WWC]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12230506#post12230506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JOSE CASAS
Victor is my newbie friend and i talk to him at least once a day.:) :mad2: :lol:

[ktar]

I have tried to get my Melting Pot to color up for the past 5-6 months and has have no luck so far. When it color up it was under a very cheap light fixture. It was under 24" nova extreme T5 fixture with 2 10k and 2 blue attinic supplement. I have 2 different frag under to different lighting rite now and still no color. I have it under 2 175watt 14k hamilton with pc supplement and it midway in the tank and it starting to get some color but not the same as before. I have the mother colony under 20k 175watt getting a little color but not impress still. I have a new Tek fixture i will be putting up tonite and i will update if it start to color up again. Sara i hope your frag will color up for you.

[ktar]

Sharkbyte by any chance your name is Jason because the guy that won the auction live in Maryland not Florida.