My 300 Gallons system build thread....

[kidney514]

So I finally decided to go ahead and spend all the kids college funds on a tank, but since they are only 4 and 6 years old I might have time to refund their college funds by the time they need it :)

The system:
All glass aquarium.
Display tank: 84"L x 22"W x 24"H 192 Gallons
Sump: 48"L x 16"W x 14"H 65 Gallons
Fuge: 30"L x 20"W x 12"H 37 Gallons

Hardware so far:
3 Lumen Bright mini
3 coral vue Ballast 250W
3 Reeflux 12K
1 Reeflo Orca 200 Skimmer
1 PM 22"H x 4 Dia fluidizer reactor (for charcoal)
1 Phosban 150 (for phosphate)
1 DIY Coil denitrator.
1 100 G/Day 5 stage RO/DI from the Filters Guys Ocean reef + 1
1 Reeflo Snapper pump for the entire system.
1 Profilux controler with PH and temp probe
1 3 station dosing pump for automatic water change (2 gallons per day)
2 500 watts titanium heater


The profilux controller will be taking care of the ATO, water change, light and heating.
Here are some picts of this weekend efforts.

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[kidney514]

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[kidney514]

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This coming Wednesday, the plumbing and the next weekend the canopy.....

Will keep posting progress, as it goes.

[Ed Reef]

Looking good kidney514. I'm also using a Profilux Plus...how do you plan to used yours for WC?? Using the dosing pump?? I'm still thinking what's best method to used my ATO...Ed

[kidney514]

I will use my dosing pump 1 and 2 to do the water change. For the ATO I have normally closed selenoid valve on the my RO/DI feed to my sump
As you can see in this picture:
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as you can see on the 2 x 6 on the right side

[kar93]

Looks Gurds, I suspect this is going to make a very nice tank!

[kidney514]

Will try :-)

[FishyBiz]

Looks great so far.
I never understood why people finish the stand in place. Seems like more work to me and not all the edges get sealed.
Oh well.... I still think its turning out fantastic.

[acropora nut]

Lorin,
It is all finally coming together .... I love the stand and all the detail in the wood. Keep up the good work and keep giving us new pic's.

:D :D Mike

[kidney514]

Thanks mike, can't wait to build the canopy with those lumen kits :)

[kidney514]

Plumbing is all in today, will do that tomorrow, will be posting pictures later on.

[FlaGuy]

Looking good. Can't wait for updates and new pics.

[kidney514]

OK plumbing day went well!

Here is a few picts:

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[kidney514]

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[kidney514]

Ok so this weekend was time to start work on the canopy. Also my skimmer has already started to show some skimming action.....

Here are come picts:

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[kidney514]

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Maybe tomorrow i'll finish the staining or will take the bike out a for a spin if the weather permits it!!!! ye

[bullitr]

very nice. :eek1:

i will be doing the same thing soon transter my in wall tank to my new house and i need to built a stand and cabinetry

[kidney514]

OK the canopy is finished, time for more pictures, hopefully someone is enjoying to picts, cuz these alot of them

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[kar93]

Stand and Canopy looks good. Nice colour.

[i2ik]

someone is working very good and fast here! Great system! :)

how do you like your prolifux controller? What about the dosing consol? Are you going to feed your Ca reactor through that or you are going with the balling method?

[Laddy]

LOL, never discount a good trade school for your kids too.

This should be an interesting build.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12273971#post12273971 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by i2ik
someone is working very good and fast here! Great system! :)

how do you like your prolifux controller? What about the dosing consol? Are you going to feed your Ca reactor through that or you are going with the balling method?
So far i haven't done anything with the Dosing pumps, one pumps is to purge salt water and the other one is too put fresh salt water, the third one is to be determined. I'm open to suggestion for the last pump.....

[kidney514]

What would someone want to dose their tanks with? I have a third dosing station that would like to find some use for?

[kidney514]

Some aquascape if you can it lake that!
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[kidney514]

I have done the doors, just need to do the staining and varnish.

Next need to jump start the Nitrogen cycle, I think my tank is too clean..... What can I do to start the cycle?

[dismalorb]

Hey there! I'm thoroughly enjoying your thread so far.. Beautiful stand, by the way. :)

One of the LFS' I used work at would give people a small amount of ammonia with some live sand. That is a nice way to do a fishless cycle, which is better for several reasons: no need to rip your tank apart trying to catch nasty Damsels, and it's cruelty-free.

Another method people like to use is getting a fresh jumbo prawn/shrimp from the meat section of a grocery store and letting that sit in there until it rots.

OR...

You can buy some uncured live rock and cure it in the tank. That'll jumpstart the cycle nicely!

I'm sure there are more methods as well, but these are the ones I'm familiar with and have used.

Good luck with your choice. I'm excited to see how your tank progresses!

[kidney514]

How do you procure yourself amonia?

[kidney514]

Ya, how many damsel do you think I would need to have to start my cycle in a 300 gallons system. Like 20, no way man, they are impossible to catch after that...... I like your ammonia trick.

[AQD_ottawa]

Great Build Lorin, good to see a GHL ProfiLux in action.

Keep us posted how you get on and look forward to seeing yo up and running with the LED thunderstorm sticks as well

[kidney514]

Getting some ammonia on the test chart, I guess the nitrogen cycle beginning......... Looking forward to put some fish in there

[StePerth]

Would you mind telling a newbe how the 3 station dosing pump for automatic water change (you said you wanted to change 2 gallons per day) works? I was trying to determine this from your plumbing photos but could not work it out.

[kidney514]

OK what device are you using? Profilux?

BTW I don't think that you can see the AWC on my pictures!

[kidney514]

Actually here it is:
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Pump#1 is fresh water and #3 is old water.

[StePerth]

I am not using anything just yet. I was/am trying to understand how you are achieving Automatic Water Change.

[kidney514]

Well I have one pump the purge salt water from the tank to the drain (from midnight to 4AM old water and from 4am to 8am new salt water). You have to remember that dosing pump are not made to run continuously, so that is why it takes so long to a water change. Every 15 minutes i pump 900ml and then let the pump rest 15 mins, That gives me 8 sessions of 900ml between 12:00 and 4:00 and its the same with fresh salt water.

I also have another circulation pump in the Fresh salt water tank that start @ 3:30 till 4:00 just to make sure the Fresh salt water is well stirred before pumping it to the tank.

[Aaronovky]

looking good subscribed

[AuS MaDDoG]

Some Good info here,
I should have my Profilux Controller mid next week and want to do the same thing. Automate water changes and ATO. I would imagine that if you wished to speed the water change process up you could use a pump instead of the dosing unit, would this be correct??

Cheers
Tony

[kidney514]

Yup, you can use the a pump instead, but you have to understand that slow is good, less shock for your inhabitant.....

Imagine doing a 25% water change on a 200 gallons (50gallons) tanks in one day, that will and should create a level of stress on the population of you tanks...

Now imagine doing that same 25% over 30 days, that is under 2 gallons per day, I really doubt that the fish would even notice that it happened....

just my .02 cents

[NUBIANTANGLOVER]

Great Job! I wish I had plumbed my sump and return Dart pump into my garage as well. The pump is kinda loud and a little bothersome. This is going to be very nice!

[Aaronovky]

whats your fish list? any corals? any anemones?

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12311418#post12311418 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aaronovky
whats your fish list? any corals? any anemones?
Nothing yet, I am in Nitrogen cycle.......

[Aaronovky]

no i mean what are you planning to get eventually?

[pbutkovich]

Nice tank... I love the pics, keep them coming!

[kar93]

I just noticed that in one of the pics you're using a hydrometer, i would recommend a refractometer as hydrometer can be way off.

[kidney514]

Ya I have the refractometer, it's jsut to give a clue. When it's time to be precise I pull out the refrac...

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12312650#post12312650 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Aaronovky
no i mean what are you planning to get eventually?
That is not yet clear, all I know if the wife and kids weren't involved in the build but can't says the same with the fish list!!!
Unofficial request from familly member:
obvioulsy nemo and dorie from my daughters
and Juvenille emperor fish from the wife, but prolly won't get him not reef safe, unless you feed him every minute of the day. Last time I had one he eat my anemone.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12310205#post12310205 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NUBIANTANGLOVER
Great Job! I wish I had plumbed my sump and return Dart pump into my garage as well. The pump is kinda loud and a little bothersome. This is going to be very nice!

I would suggest that you change your pump for Sequence reeflo, even where all my pump are I don't hear them at all...

My 2500GPH snapper is completely silent if you ask me....
The most annoying thing now in my setup is the 2 tunze 6100 in my tanks, the pulsating noise they make drives me nuts.... Looking for a solutions too that!

[NUBIANTANGLOVER]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12313028#post12313028 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kidney514
I would suggest that you change your pump for Sequence reeflo, even where all my pump are I don't hear them at all...

My 2500GPH snapper is completely silent if you ask me....
The most annoying thing now in my setup is the 2 tunze 6100 in my tanks, the pulsating noise they make drives me nuts.... Looking for a solutions too that!

But your pump is in the garage, correct? My pump is in my stand. I did not know about the idea of adding a mousepad or maybe two, to reduce the vibration pf the pump. Everything has been running for 6+ months. I really don't have enough room to lift the pump up to place the mousepad underneath it. I would have to cut the PVC piping and adjust it, considering the pump is also plumbed to the sump. Any suggestions, let me know.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12314411#post12314411 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NUBIANTANGLOVER
But your pump is in the garage, correct? My pump is in my stand. I did not know about the idea of adding a mousepad or maybe two, to reduce the vibration pf the pump. Everything has been running for 6+ months. I really don't have enough room to lift the pump up to place the mousepad underneath it. I would have to cut the PVC piping and adjust it, considering the pump is also plumbed to the sump. Any suggestions, let me know.
Nope my pump is one gyproc away from my living room. I would bet that if it was under my aquarium it would as silent as it is now...

Maybe this help.
Look at this picture you might see how i did mine.
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Alos just to give a perspective of my setup.
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My living room is just the other side, so there only a gyproc sheet between the living room and fish room and there no noise other those dam tunze in the tank!

[AQD_ottawa]

I agree with the Tunze's the constant HMMMMM mmmmm HMMMMM mmmm drove me mad too, especially in a quiet house at night when you cant sleep!

Not sure of a solution really, I was using the rubbish mounting bracket assy but this time going to use the magnets, may make a difference, but dont really know what else you can do.

[kidney514]

Mine are magnet mounted, and there is still nagging noise.....

[Aaronovky]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12313010#post12313010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kidney514
That is not yet clear, all I know if the wife and kids weren't involved in the build but can't says the same with the fish list!!!
Unofficial request from familly member:
obvioulsy nemo and dorie from my daughters
and Juvenille emperor fish from the wife, but prolly won't get him not reef safe, unless you feed him every minute of the day. Last time I had one he eat my anemone.

right i think that the clown and the hippo tang will go well together!

[kar93]

Give your wife Flame Angel for a sub :D

[kidney514]

I think she got an eye out for an achille tang!

[kar93]

I think that could be a great addition to this tank.

[Aaronovky]

i like the look of the achilles tang and i agree with Kar it would make a great addition to the tank:):thumbsup:

[kidney514]

Looks like our first guest is going to be 8 inch Blonde Male Naso Tang...... So far he looks a bit stress but the breathing is normal.... We are keeping a close watch on in. And checking parameters twice a day to be sure nothing get out off hand. Also trying to make 60 gallons of emergency water change if param get out off hand.

[kar93]

Got any pics of him?

[kidney514]

ok will shoot a pict.... BRB

[kidney514]

OK so I am not a great marine photographer, but will improve with time.....

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[kar93]

hmm, pics not working. Is it my PC?

[kidney514]

naw, was a typo in my url!!!!

[kar93]

Wow, Hes beautiful! Nice shots. It always looks to me that when you see a tang face to face they're laughin at me :D How old are they when they get the streamers?

[yaktop]

nice set up. I suggest you replace all the clear tubing though. The light will grow algae and eventually start to restrict the ID.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12320994#post12320994 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Wow, Hes beautiful! Nice shots. It always looks to me that when you see a tang face to face they're laughin at me :D How old are they when they get the streamers?
What are streamers?

[i2ik]

the streamers are the long tips at the end of his tail

He is looking beautiful! where did you get it?

I special ordered the achilles from WF but unfortunatly, he did not make it.... he was really not interested in eating any kind of food :(

[kidney514]

You lost your achille?

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12322138#post12322138 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by i2ik
He is looking beautiful! where did you get it?
Got it @ Reef solutions, was a pure coincidence, wasn't looking for him, but lets just says that when I saw him, there was no doubt in my minf that he was coming home, actually, there was a doubt when I heard the price, but I was already in love with him, and wasn't a brilliant move cuz he wasn't eating anything and they told me that he hadn't eaten since they got him, but I was sure that he would be happy in my empty tank instead of that 2 x 3 cell he was in.....

Just try to feed 5 minutes ago before going to bed and he hate 5 or 6 piece of brine shrimp, so I have hope for him.
:dance:

[i2ik]

Yeah i lost the achilles, he was not interested in any kind of food even when i was feeding 5 times a day, he showed no interest at all.

If your naso is eating, i have no doubt he will do better in the days to come!

[Ed Reef]

Sorry to hear about your achilles, not an easy one but for sure worth the trouble....one of my fav as well.. I'm a tang lover...

[i2ik]

thats one of the fishes that i absolutely want in my tank, but it does not come often around here... :(

[kidney514]

Will ask steve to get some for the both of us!

[cbui2]

bummer Richard, achilles are just as hard to keep similar to their brother PBT.

[i2ik]

I actually had more luck with PBT, up to now, the 2 i had was eating well and lasted, maybe its just me, but i find the achilles harder to keep.

[Aaronovky]

i like the look of the PBT sorry about your achilles

[kar93]

Here is a pic of a male Naso, See the long streamers on his tailfin.
http://www.bsactravelclub.co.uk/eco/idpics/unicornfish_cs_trop.jpg

[Aaronovky]

nice pic wer u get dat from?

[kar93]

Google.

[AQD_ottawa]

I have always wanted a PBT but steared clear due to stories of difficulty so would be interested how you get on.

Stunning fish BTW

[kar93]

IMO, they're not a difficult fish to keep its just that they need alot of swimming room, flow and rockwork and its that they're skin is thinner so they are more susceptible to ich.JMO

[kidney514]

OK that's enought, been trying to figure the acronym for PBT and it's driving me nuts.....

What is PBT?

[kar93]

Powder Blue Tang

[kidney514]

Ah ok, no for me the next one the achille tang teh orange shoulder tang, just got to find him now..... Unless you guys have another suggestions!

[kar93]

Live Aquaria - Quite expensive but gorgeous, be sure to get it around the same size as the Naso or slightly bigger:
http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+43+325&pcatid=325

[AQD_ottawa]

Careful they dont fight, Tangs hate each other in small numbers, if the colours are totally opposite such as a sail fin and blue regal they tend to tolerate each other, but too closer species type and war breaks out.

Just my own experience, but thought i would pass it on.

Lorin, if you are thinking of filling the tank with tangs, seriously consider ozone, it will be invaluable for keeping the itch at bay, the Tangs biggest enemy.

[kar93]

Ive noticed then when adding tangs if they are the same size or similar they just sort of check each other out rather than fight. Apparently a mirror on the side of the tank works aswell.

[kidney514]

I hear the achille is more aggresive of the 2, so I would get him 1/3 smaller than the other so that He doesn't get any ideas of attacking the other one!

[AQD_ottawa]

Good thought, also consider what I said about ozone, love it or hate it and there are many on both sides of the fence but you will find it a must with a tank of tangs.

When I was in the UK, one of my customers introduced 4 tangs, the stress brought out white spot that infested the whole tank, I put ozone on it for him and he never had a problem again.

Again, just an oppinion based on experience.

[kar93]

Yeah, i agree ozone does play quite a big part, IMO wether it is with tangs or not ozone should be used.

[AQD_ottawa]

Refreshing to hear, normally if I mention ozone, I get marched out of town.

Such a miss understood topic, and one I am very passionate about.

[kar93]

I've seen alot of tanks without ozone which seem really clear but as soon as they add ozone its hard to believe how much clearer the water can get.

[AQD_ottawa]

Yer I know, they sparkle like spring water.

I think the main concern is the fear based on human health concerns, I wont go into here as it will detract from the intention of this thread. But to date nobody has died from ozone, but many have had theyre health be improved by its uses.

As i said massive subject, with little credible education. Not even the CSA will approve units for domestic useage as they do not understand it.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12324527#post12324527 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AQD_ottawa
Good thought, also consider what I said about ozone, love it or hate it and there are many on both sides of the fence but you will find it a must with a tank of tangs.

When I was in the UK, one of my customers introduced 4 tangs, the stress brought out white spot that infested the whole tank, I put ozone on it for him and he never had a problem again.

Again, just an oppinion based on experience.
I have intention of putting ozone, but you recommanded to wait 6 month.....

[AQD_ottawa]

Yes, I did not know you would be putting tangs in your system as a first fish.

A system needs to be mature before adding ozone as it will not mature naturally if ozone is put in at the beginning, but saying that if you are suffering from ammonia spikes or residual nitrite you can burn much of this off with ozone, BUT only do this if all else fails, golden rule, when maturing a system keep as natural as possible, cycle slowly and in doing so make sure the tanks ecosystem builds a natural foundation, then you can start adding ozone later on in 6 months to 18 months, the later the better.

My advise, do nothing unless you have a problem.

[Aaronovky]

what is the ozone?

[AQD_ottawa]

EEK where do I start

Ok simple terms as I dont want this thread to get of topic. Ozone is a naturally forming gas in the enviroment, but it is also the most powerful naturally occuring sterlization agent known to man. basically anything living that comes in contact with it is oxidise or turned to oxygen.

It is a bi product of electrostatic emmision, when air is subject to high static charges the surrounding atmosphere is oxidised and thus produces ozone, this can be seen on still shots on a lightening bolt as a blue/purple ora.

[Aaronovky]

and its good for your water

[AQD_ottawa]

Basically yes.

ozone is injected via your skimmer air intake, the gas mixes with the fine micro bubbles burning off any thing in the water it comes in contact with. That being parasites, nitrite, ammonia, nitrate to a degree although not over effeciently, tannins, odour, you name it. This burn off is then skimmed out of the water.

This is the reason you never inject ozone directly into your tank, you must allow sufficient contact time for ozone to break back down in oxygen. This is why it is dosed in low doses and also making sure sufficient contact time is allowed, but saying that ozone is so unstable it pretty much reverts to oxygen the moment is makes contact with water.

[Aaronovky]

do you get it in an oxygen tank sort of thing and use it like a CO2 bottle for reactors?

[kar93]

This is an ozone, The one ill be getting eventually:
http://www.jlaquatics.com/images/ozonizer/redsea_deluxe.jpg
Lets get back OT now.

[AQD_ottawa]

No it is generated in an ozone generator.

Basic concept - high static charge applied to a wire or insulated plate, air passes over wire or between plates and becomes high charged, in doing so ozone is produced (bi product of oxidised air = ozone) the gas is then pushed or sucked out of the chamber or from between the plates.

Two types of designs on the market, wire induction - pros highly efficient, cons - wire oxidises in time can not be cleaned or replaced and wire either snaps or ozone production falls off

Static plate discharge - can be cleaned, does not wear out, cons - needs regular cleaning.

back to the thread now, any questions just pm me

[kidney514]

Today's test no ammonia, trite or trate........ Must have done something right.

[kar93]

Good, Just rememmber to watch out for swings. Will you be ordering an Achilles?

[kidney514]

Just go to find one, I can't order in the US, so I have to find one locally, also today I noticed that my tanks @ the office is not doing well, it's about to split open, so I might need to relocate my fish and coral home. I have to decide if i fix the tank or shut it down.

List of species @ office.
1 Bi-color angel 2"
2 Golden stripped maroon clownfish
1 mandarin
1 serientis
1 bubble tip
1 brain
1 crocea clam
1 Huge hermitt crab
1 Lobster (mia) but probably hidden somewhere under a rock.
some snail, 2 blue leg hermitt and other unknown stuff.

That tank is mature in every way, 7 continuous years of marine fish tanks, and the silicone and brace seem to have enought!

[kar93]

You could just replace the tank.

[Aaronovky]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12327238#post12327238 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AQD_ottawa
No it is generated in an ozone generator.

Basic concept - high static charge applied to a wire or insulated plate, air passes over wire or between plates and becomes high charged, in doing so ozone is produced (bi product of oxidised air = ozone) the gas is then pushed or sucked out of the chamber or from between the plates.

Two types of designs on the market, wire induction - pros highly efficient, cons - wire oxidises in time can not be cleaned or replaced and wire either snaps or ozone production falls off

Static plate discharge - can be cleaned, does not wear out, cons - needs regular cleaning.

back to the thread now, any questions just pm me



thanks for that!

[Ginzo]

Nice setup ! I'll be following the progress.

How's the water changes going with the Profilux module ? I want to get one myself.

[kar93]

Ive just thought, if you go to your LFS then they maybe able to special order you an Achilles.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12333537#post12333537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ginzo
Nice setup ! I'll be following the progress.

How's the water changes going with the Profilux module ? I want to get one myself.
I would be perfect for your tank size, I think that my setup is too big to the doosing pump scenario for water change. But before you buy it, give me a call migth might sell it to you if I feel it's not adequate for my setup.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12333551#post12333551 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Ive just thought, if you go to your LFS then they maybe able to special order you an Achilles.
I just decided to move my office tanks will see how that goes and want to wait to see if my naso is going to make it. He is not eating as off yet, he nibble on the first night but never after that, so i'm abit concerned for him, and also adding the other fished will stress him. so will see.......

[kidney514]

OK the transplantation is done, my office tank was really bad, there was a bow off ,5" on the front glass, the brace was broken and the silicone was peeling, I guess after 8 years it was due. Anyways all off this happened a bit too fast, I really wish that my tanks would have more mature before such a transfer and it probably going to stress my Naso like hell, but on the good side I just added 60 lbs of 8 years old live rock.

New specise list:
2 Golden Stripped Maroon Clownfish with their host Bubble tip anemone
1 Mandarine
1 Bi-Color Angel
2 Blue leg hermit crabe
1 Astrea snail
1 Lobster
1 Naso Blonde Male Tang
1 Brain
1 Mushroom
1 Anemone Serientis
1 Large hermitt crabe

Really hope the emergency transplant is a success, I am really stressed out!!!!!

:hmm1:

:eek1: :eek1:

[kidney514]

Here some pict of the old tank before the emergency take-a-part.

http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6817/IMG_6817.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6818/IMG_6818.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6819/IMG_6819.jpg

[kidney514]

After the transplant:

http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6841/IMG_6841.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6847/IMG_6847.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6848/IMG_6848.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6868/IMG_6868.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6870/IMG_6870.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6871/IMG_6871.jpg

[kidney514]

Ok so my wife wanna to save him from a really bad ending and decided that even tough he is missing an eye, he deserve a better life than ending dead in a lfs store, which was probably what would happend so we brough him home.


http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6872/IMG_6872.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6873/IMG_6873.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6875/IMG_6875.jpg

[kidney514]

BTW anyone can ID my one eye fish?

[kar93]

The one eyed fish looks like some sort of damsel but im not sure on the actual name. How is the naso, was he getting agressive?
Do you think the Mandarin will have enough food? You got a name for the Naso yet? :)

[kidney514]

Thanks mikes.

The unknown one eyed fish in my tanks is a "Female Japanese Swallowtail Angelfish" also known as "Spike".

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12340744#post12340744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
The one eyed fish looks like some sort of damsel but im not sure on the actual name. How is the naso, was he getting agressive?
Do you think the Mandarin will have enough food? You got a name for the Naso yet? :)
No is not aggresive at all, actually he looks more shy than anything. The mandarin got plenty of food since my fuge was started month ago. And we haven't name the Naso yet.

[kidney514]

Well, my Naso died......

[kar93]

:( Sorry to hear that, Wasn't he eating at all?

[kidney514]

Never did, some people are saying that it's because my tank wasn't mature, to be honest I don't think that was the case...... Atleast not after 5 days, an immature tank will kill a fish after a few weeks not days! Any opinion?

[kar93]

IMO Naso tangs are quite hardy and if your tank had cycled then it should be fine. It could have just been one of those things.
He looked healthy.

[kidney514]

At the end of the day, I took a chance on a fish that wasn't eating at the LFS, I take full blame on that, but being told it's because my tank is immature turn me off!!! IMO an immature tank doesn't kill fish after 5 days, it takes a couple of week for fish to die from an immature tank. Not days! I really want to know if any other share the same opinion? That was going to die no mather what tank is was in!

[kar93]

I think a fish will only die in an immature tank if it is sensitive and needs a mature tank e.g Pod eaters, pipefish, seahorse and mandarins etc. But tangs are pretty hardy fish and it would take more than an immature tank to kill them IMHO. Sure the Achilles and PBT which are sensitive tangs may have a hard time in a immature tank and may be more likely to get diseases than if they was in a mature tank. If it wasn't eating at the LFS i know that not many people would be prepared to take on that fish so kudos for that. Sorry for the long post but thats JMO.

[kidney514]

Here a tank update.....

Lamps are on from 4pm ti'll 10pm all three MH
No sign of algea yet
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 0
Amonia = 0
Phosphate = 0
So far so good!

PS I'm actually almost starting to wonder if my test are good? Sound to good to be true with all the fish that I added recently.

[kar93]

How long did it take for the tank to cycle? Is that Mandarin doing ok?

[kidney514]

I don't know I didn't even see the cycle, the mandarin is doing fine, he seems happy!

[kar93]

Since water has been in the tank there has been no cycle? :eek1:

[kidney514]

Haven't seen it...... I think that I might have done so many thing not to get one, that I may have succeeded

[kidney514]

Hi people

Need some idea of what it that, some red/rusty algea or dust is appearing in my tank. What is it, should I be concerned or not?

[kidney514]

some more picture,

Not reef crabe, little f... is now in my fuge, he hate my clam, I don't know why, but he never did that in my other tank.
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6876/IMG_6876.jpg
The lobster that we never see, I saw him twice, when I bought him and when I closed the previous tank
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6877/IMG_6877.jpg

The next 2 are pict of the rusty algae or slim not sure, that one if anyone can point into what it is would be nice.....
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6878/IMG_6878.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6879/IMG_6879.jpg

[kar93]

yeah, them hermits are really not reef safe they get big and eat anything they can get there hands, sorry claws on.;)

[kidney514]

Kar93, good thing you exist, otherwise my thread would lonely. LOL

[kar93]

lol, there will be plenty of subscribers and readers. The algae may be cyano which usually happens during a cycle so you may be going through one now. What are your current parameters?

[kar93]

Whats happening? Any updates?

[kidney514]

Pretty much waiting for the tank to stabilize....
Also waiting for my fish order to come in.

Naso Blonde male tang.
Achilles tang.
Double band Tang.

2 of the them should arrive next week and the other mid may...
Will wait for all of them to arrive, so that way they will introduce to the tank all together and hope they get along.

[adammreef]

where did you order the fish from? What is a double band tang ive never heard of that do you have any pics

[kidney514]

Is official name is : Acanthurus tennentii

http://www.fishbase.com/images/species/Acten_u0.jpg

[kar93]

Ive never heard of them being called a Double Band Tang before. They are a beautiful fish. Looking forward to seeing pics when they get there.

[mcliffy2]

Thats a beautiful fish. Where did you order from? And if you dont mind me asking, what is the ballpark price for those?

[kidney514]

My local LFS store in Montreal (Aqua Reef), as far as the price goes I don't know yet, but should be below 150$ and he is going to be around 3-4 inch when I get him.

[JaredWaites]

The Cyanobacteria you have will in fact go away as soon as your tank matures a little more. If you have a high flow tank, it shouldn't take long at all.

[kar93]

What do you have for flow? Thats going to be an important factor with the tangs aswell.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12433276#post12433276 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JaredWaites
The Cyanobacteria you have will in fact go away as soon as your tank matures a little more. If you have a high flow tank, it shouldn't take long at all.
I might have been wrong about the cyano, it might be simple algae.
I can't pickup like I would expect, and my snail are eating it, so I am assuming it's simple algae.
As far as the flow goes I have a Reeflo Hammerhead 5800GPH and 2 tunze 6100. I think that the flow should be OK, but i'm still switching my 6100 for 6200 that will be even more flow.

[mcliffy2]

I wouldn't switch out, I'd just add the 6200 :)

[kidney514]

Today's update...

Wow those 6200 sure can push alot of water, just amazing..... Now I have to find another deal to exchange my other 6100 and will be set.

Also added 55 pounds of cured live rock....
Total rocks 135 pds of cured live rock and 140 of base rock, that should cover my rock needs for a whiles.......

Live stock....
added a cocktail of snails
5 turbos, 3 cerith, 5 nerith, 3 astrea and 3 margarita.
and 2 more urchins.

Today test results, algae has not grown (light has been cut to 2hours per day)
Ammonia 0 (somedays it's 0 and other some amonia shows .25 to .5)
Trite 0
Trate 5

[kidney514]

Todays new tank mate....

Lawmower Blenny
Golden angel (Centropyge aurantius) I think this is a rare fish.
Coral Beauty.

[kar93]

Lawnmower Blennie's are so cool! :D As you probably already know just keep an eye on the angels so they dont nip.

[Reeftanks6]

This tank is going to be great cant wait to see some fish in there.

[kidney514]

OK another update the test are the same 0 everywhere except for nitrate are 5.

Picture of the new additions.
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6904/IMG_6904.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6912/IMG_6912.jpg
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6914/IMG_6914.jpg

Another picture of the entire tank, will re-arrange the rock for a better setup for coral placement!!!

http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_6898/IMG_6898.jpg

[kar93]

Cool, When are you getting the tangs? I wouldnt worry about 5 NO3 but getting them down to 0 would be ideal. I imagine it is from you having to quickly put all the livestock in there, Is it staying or are you getting a new tank and taking them back?

[Reeftanks6]

Very nice pictures. Dont worry about the 5 NO3 they should go down.

[saltyfishy123]

Awesome buld!! Hows that controller working out for you?

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12472606#post12472606 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Cool, When are you getting the tangs? I wouldnt worry about 5 NO3 but getting them down to 0 would be ideal. I imagine it is from you having to quickly put all the livestock in there, Is it staying or are you getting a new tank and taking them back?
So far I have change my mind about the double band tang, after researching it, it only looks good on that picture, anywhere else he is very plain looking. I am waiting on the arrival of the achille tang, should be somewhere around may 15, but not sure.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12472976#post12472976 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by saltyfishy123
Awesome buld!! Hows that controller working out for you?
That controller is really cool...

[kar93]

I think they are a great fish but we all have our opinions. You will love the Achilles, up to a few weeks ago had only seen them in pics and photos and when I finally saw one in person, they are so elegant and unique! Just one tip though.....Be prepared for ich im not saying it will definitely get it but they are a sensitive fish but I imagine you already know all this.

[kidney514]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12473053#post12473053 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
I think they are a great fish but we all have our opinions. You will love the Achilles, up to a few weeks ago had only seen them in pics and photos and when I finally saw one in person, they are so elegant and unique! Just one tip though.....Be prepared for ich im not saying it will definitely get it but they are a sensitive fish but I imagine you already know all this.
Nothing is set in stone yet, but my LFS said that he may get the achille in small which is rare, and if they are small I might get 3 or 4 of them and that would be all for the tang familly.... But will see when they arrive.

[kar93]

I think 3 or 4 would be a little too much, Due to them being sensitive if one get ich i assume the rest will, would your really want 4 tangs with ich? Another Naso would be great IMO and maybe a purple. That is what i would get anyway. Good Luck!

[FFrankie]

How did i miss tis thread?! It's nice to see someone else using the Lumen Bright reflectors. Best ones i have used yet.

[kar93]

How about treating us to an updated FTS? :D

[kidney514]

Previous page last post.

[kar93]

Oh i missed that one. My IE explorer said 1 item remaining for 5 minutes and i couldn't be bother to wait, Im not very patient :)

[kidney514]

I see you changed your avatar, Now can you imagine having 3 or 4 of those in one tank, must be absolutely beautiful.....

[Reeftanks6]

Kar very nice new avatar. Love those tangs.

[kar93]

Yeah must be, the ich would be my biggest worry though. Im thinking of adding one to my 200, it might only be one fish but its a big decision.
Here it is if you're interested:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1384707

[kidney514]

Well, my lfs seem to be convice that It can be sone if i let them acclimate in my fuge for a couple of week and then transfer them to the tank. Anyways all of this depends on the size when they arrive.

[kar93]

You might want to post in Reef Discussion about it and see what others say before buying them. Some LFS's are good but it always best to confirm on here IMO.

[kidney514]

Ya will do when they arrive, for now it's pointless. If he gets them and they are big, it will be only one....

[kar93]

I've never seen a small one. I would really like to see what there colouring etc. is like.

[Reeftanks6]

Yea i mean they are a great fish it just the level at which they are to keep which is very hard. I mean you dont want to buy an 80 dollar fish and see it die of ich trust me i had it happen as you already know kar. But know i am trying to get something to prevent the ich from coming back and learning more about the ich problem. But i dont think there is much out there that can protect it. But i am not sure.

[kidney514]

UV can prevent ich very efficiently, I think you have the proper flow going into the UV to kill the ich.

[Reeftanks6]

ok thank you but what size uv would i need for a 90.

[FFrankie]

There is that assumption again. It's not about your tank size. You need to include all the water in your system. Do you have a sump? How much rock is displacing your water volume? I have a 120 but my total water volume is 195. I run a 25w uv 24/7.

[chibopelu13]

wow

[Reeftanks6]

ok i see my tank is about 120 or 130 all together

[FFrankie]

25 watter would be great for you :)

[kidney514]

isn't there specific flow(GPH) depending on what you want to kill with the UV?

[kar93]

I've never used a UV but i think they come with the right sized pump for the tank they are rated for. Vecton TMC is supposed to be a very good make.

[kar93]

Any news on when the tangs will be here?

[Reeftanks6]

yea anything on the tangs??

[kidney514]

haven't gone to the lfs yet, in the process off putting a pool, so been busy a bit......

[kar93]

Reef pool? :D

[kidney514]

Just news from my LFS, and he didn't get any tangs....... :(

[kidney514]

Ok went to another LFS, and it happened again fell in love with 2 of his fish. They are simply beautiful.
Todays new additions to the family
1 PBT (Text book perfect)
1 Male blonde naso tang
1 Cleaner wrasse (one most gorgeous wrasse I have ever seen, OK OK I don't go out often)
I will post some picts later on......

[kidney514]

Some picts of the new arrival.
http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_5481/IMG_5481.jpg

http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_5500/IMG_5500.jpg

http://maison.bradshaw-tremblay.com:16080/Site/Our_Albums/Pages/Aquarium_files/Media/IMG_5504/IMG_5504.jpg
Can anyone ID that wrasses?

[Ed Reef]

Nice cleaner wrasse - agree it's one of the nicest I've seen so far.... :) Great score..!!

[i2ik]

Nice wrasse! That would be an Hawaiian Cleaner Wrasse, they are usually very fragile but once stable, they are hardy enough

[kar93]

Beautiful Wrasse and Tangs, In that PBT pic it looks like the angel is a stalker. :D IME the cleaners do best with Tangs and in large tanks, so I assume yours will do fine.

[cudaruner]

I concur, it is a Hawaiian cleaner, very cool fish once it settles in to your tank

[Reeftanks6]

Love all the new additions. Great wrasse as well. Very colorful.

[kar93]

Any updates?

[kidney514]

nah, just trying to find that Achilles

[kidney514]

Today got home from a bike ride to find out that my Golden Pigme angel was dead stuck on the side of one of my 6200 and at the other end off the tanks on the other 6200 my naso was stuck 3/4 dead on the other one, and my PBT got white spots on is fins... My naso is holding on to dear life but I really doubt that I will make it. This is really not fun, actually it really sucks...

[kidney514]

Well the naso didn't make it.........

[Ed Reef]

Did u check your parameters?? Odd for this to suddenly happen?? I feel for u as I experience a wipe out once in my earlier days in this hobby due to my ignorance of keeping an Sea Apple & I know how u must be feeling... :(

[kar93]

Very strange, You should move the PBT into QT asap. Maybe a mini cycle is occuring.

[Aaronovky]

So unfortunate, i hope your PBT doesnt end up going down to the great reef round the u-bend (thanks kane:)

[i2ik]

I am sorry to read this Lorin :(

[kidney514]

Hey guys,
should they be a light over my sump? I have a light over my fuge, but none over my sump. Got flashlight to go do some maintenance and check up, and wow, there is a lot of life in there, got a sea star that come from nowhere a lot of pods and also a unknow anemone or whatever it is. Will take a picture later. would like to have ID of what it is. BTW all the rock in that sump was dead rock, so I guess It's now alive......

[kidney514]

Well it looks the bubble tip anemone that dispeared in my display might be in the sump here are the picts:
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[kar93]

Anything to update us with?

[kidney514]

ya, velvet is in my tank now, got 4 fish left! So, will wait ti'll september for thing to stabilize and also going to try all the Fauna Marin (balling method and ultralith)

[kidney514]

Ok here we got again, just installed a 40 watt UV and starting to restock slowly. Here is a full tanks shoot and few of the new corals.

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[kidney514]

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[kidney514]

Another little update, it's so nice that I had to share with you guys

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/de52b525.jpg

[NUBIANTANGLOVER]

Your PBT, sadly may have been the culprit of the death of your tankmates. The PBT is notoriously mean. There have many experiences here of PBTs being welcomed into a tank as they are so beautiful--only to come back later to discover all the tankmates dead.
I know you also stated that the PBT has white spots--maybe first stages of ick---hopefully that's not this case. Sorry Again about your lost.

[kidney514]

Another small update, monday will be receiving my ultralith reactor and start the bacterial growth a few days after that....

Also upgraded my skimmer for a bigger one just to be on the safe side.
Here is my new baby:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/d9cdfc45.jpg

As this trade require I am going much slower than before. Should start stocking on corals mid-october....

[kidney514]

also added:
a current-usa 40 watts uv that runs at the same time as my MH

[i2ik]

Hey Lorin! Everything is looking really good! Nice skimmer :)

[FFrankie]

What an awesome setup!

[jbriddle]

nice!!!

[kidney514]

Here are few of my new accro and recently added fishes.....
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/fe186de1.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/e741bd1e.jpg
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http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/75499876.jpg

[kidney514]

Here is bunch of gobys, and really hope that this time around I have better luck with my naso.....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/c437f6c9.jpg

[kidney514]

Also some new hardware, a fully automated Ultralith Reactor, that shakes the rocks once a day...

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/8529496e.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/ef58833c.jpg

[Ed Reef]

How does this work?? Need to get one for my Zeovit tank :)

[samson78945]

i will be following this thread closely!

[kidney514]

Unless you like shaking the rock everyday..... I wasn't reliable enough for that ;)
It's just huge rush of air the enters the reactor by the bottom and move all the rocks.

[jimgldn]

Nice steup! Tank is coming along nicely.

Cheers,
Jim

[Ed Reef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13398521#post13398521 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kidney514
Unless you like shaking the rock everyday..... I wasn't reliable enough for that ;)
It's just huge rush of air the enters the reactor by the bottom and move all the rocks.

Do you need an additional pump for that on a timer or using the same pump for the circulation for the reactor?

Also if you don't mind me asking, where do you purchased this automatic reactor??

[kidney514]

Ya you need a air pump to blow the air on a timer for that.

Fauna Marin makes them. I know here you can get it @ www.ReefConcept.com and they would probably ship it to you.

[Ed Reef]

Thanks :)

[kidney514]

After installing a camera on my tank, I finally caught my naso eating, I guess he is a shy eater, he never hate in front of me since I got him. Now the stress level can go down abit. :celeb1:

[i2ik]

Lorin, your PM is full ;)

[kidney514]

I know, I'm too popular..... :)

[PreacherMan607]

Beautiful!!!

[kidney514]

Here is a small video of me bonding with my naso :)

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[kidney514]

Oups forgot to mention that I finally found some 80watts dimmable T5 to hook up on my profilux. Man, these are really sweet addition to my tank..... They are set to dim start @ 10am and reach full britghness at noon, and then my MH light up and when my MH closes the opposite happens. It just plain cool :)

[kidney514]

Well, just got my Achilles tang after multiples (4) flight delay and landing at the airport 12 later than predicted. Its look in perfect health and is absolutely beautiful, he was even eating while I was doing the aclimatation...
So the PBT is acting as everyone would suspect he is being territorial, buy my achilles doesn't seem to be impress by it, when he has enough he just turn around the chases the PBT. My Naso and clowns don't seem to care about the new guy on the other hand I didn't expect my angel to be nasty, but man they are very nasty to him.
Will post some pictures later on.

[i2ik]

Congrats on the Achilles tang, for sure a beautiful fish!

[kidney514]

Here is a small update on live stock and the new guy

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/fbe39062.jpg
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http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/4cc85fd2.jpg

and the group picture....
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/f0cea078.jpg

[kidney514]

It was an intense last couple of days... My achilles had ich and now it's finally gone, I was really concerned about it, but it seem all is well. Everybody seem to be getting along, finally the PBT and Achilles have stopped fighting and peace is now restored in my tank. Yeah......

[kidney514]

OK don't know if my thread is still alive or if someone is still following it, but here is a small update....


Recently added 2 picasso clown fish, and have placed an order for a Black tang, also added a few SPS.
Here are some pictures....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/IMG_7078.jpg
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[FFrankie]

Still following it! :D
Sorry to not post much, I have a few 300 gal. systems that I follow, (this one included) and like to read the progress. It is my goal size tank.
Don't feel bad, my thread gets very little attention also, (click the red house!) but if you go to the Large Tank section this thread is in you will see that this thread has been hit 12616 times. Now 12617! :D
I look forward to the new corals. Your Blonde Naso is still my favorite Naso out there also. :)

[kidney514]

Well I have to admit that the naso is my favorite, but the achilles is extremly nice......

[TandN]

Very nice ;) Cant believe i missed your thread here

[kidney514]

Well just got my long awaited 'Black Tang" really nice fish! acclimation went well, he is eating well. My achilles was not happy at all about the new guy, gave him hell until I decided to pull out the fish trap.....
I always feed my fish with the fish for the last 3 month, they are trained that way, the minute they see the fish trap they fight to get in and get the food. Hihihi So being trained like the minute they see that I pulled out the first trap the achille went directly in the fish trap to get food, sad to say but this time I closed the door and left him there for 10 minutes, and then let him out, after that closed the light for an hour, and all was good after, the achilles seem to leave the black tang alone now, will see tomorrow. Will try to post a picture of him.

Next fish on the list is the Goldflake Angel... let the search begin!

[FFrankie]

Thanks for the update. I look forward to the pictures of the Black Tang. :)

[kidney514]

Here he is....
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/IMG_7114.jpg

[kidney514]

Some new guys
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/IMG_7215.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/IMG_7214.jpg
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http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/IMG_7210.jpg

[kidney514]

almost forgot this guy...

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/kidney514/IMG_7244.jpg

[kidney514]

Well I just started the Balling salt system with Fauna Marin, so far it's look very promising concept!!
Will keep you postes on the my impression of this system.

Here are the containers I ordered for my balling salt.
http://www.reefconcept.com/forum/files/balling_3_228.jpg
http://www.reefconcept.com/forum/files/balling_5_509.jpg
http://www.reefconcept.com/forum/files/balling_4_121.jpg
http://www.reefconcept.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1839
Look forward to receive those containers, they look very well built

[FFrankie]

Looks nice! Here is a link to some good balling info my friend writes up:
http://reefdreams.de/lang_eng/info_3_eng.html Good luck with it!

[kidney514]

Well to be honest I already started it about 3 week ago.... So far I getting alot of growth and coraline algea. Which is good :)

[Chrisrush]

Wow, those containers are nice but no where near $400 nice. What was wrong with a couple of milk jugs?

[kidney514]

Of course and I didn't pay that price either, have to be a mistake, I paid something like 269CAD, that is like 210USD.....
I will email them and let them know about that mistake.

[Reeftanks6]

Love the tank! Love the choice of the tangs!