Fredmani and anemones

[SkyPapa]

Are Fridmani smart enough to not get eaten by a medium size carpet?
I only have 2 oscellaras and a medium blue carpet in my 40g breeder and I am on the waiting list at LA for 2 Fridmani.
Stay on list or cancel?

[Toddrtrex]

Is it a Haddoni carpet?

Is so I wouldn't count on the fish being smart enough or dumb enough. It is just a came of chance, and how much risk you are willing to take.

I have two Haddonis, one for 7+ years the other for a year, over all that time I have only lost 2 fish to them, others haven't been as lucky. With this being in a 40, this is less room, so a greater chance that they might get eaten.

[SkyPapa]

I'm pretty sure it's a Haddoni, it doesn't have the long tentacles like a gigantea.
Are there other types of carpets besides these two?

It's dark now , so no pic, but it has a white oral disk with 1/8-1/4 in. tentacles thinning out as they get closer to the disk.

[Toddrtrex]

There is also a Stichodactyla mertensii. Is it on the sandbed? But sounds like a haddoni.

Does it look like this,

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/blueHaddoni4_15_08.jpg

[SkyPapa]

Yep, but not as big.
It's in the rock now.
Only had it for a few days. I'm BB. Does it need a sand bed?

[Toddrtrex]

Yea, they really prefer to have their foot in the sand right at the sand/rock interface. I don't see your being happy if there is no sand. Could always try a tupperware full of sand if you want to stay BB.

You can see its foot going under the rock here,

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/Haddonifoot1.jpg

And this it from underneath the tank, foot attached to the bottom glass.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/Haddonifoot2.jpg

[SkyPapa]

OK Thanks.
I was actually thing about putting some sand in here for a change. 120g has been BB for years.
Would a couple of inches be enough?

[Toddrtrex]

Yea, I think I have 2 inches 3 at the most.

Sand is better anyways. ;) ;) ;)

[SkyPapa]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12347510#post12347510 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex

Sand is better anyways. ;) ;) ;)

Well, I won't argue with a mod.:p

Thanks for the help though.

[Toddrtrex]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12347557#post12347557 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ecr111
Well, I won't argue with a mod.:p

Thanks for the help though.

he he he.

Truth be told, I am not a mod, just a "team RC" member -- in between
regular members and mods, here to give extra help to the members, plus other things.

[SkyPapa]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12347568#post12347568 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
he he he.

Truth be told, I am not a mod

I am still not going to get into THAT discussion.
Don't want to end up like my inspiration Bomber.

[Toddrtrex]

Touche. ;)

There are only two reasons I use sand, looks and for my anemones. There are so many ways to run a tank, and what might work for me, might not work for you. As long as you are happy with your tank, and your fish/inverts are happy, that is all that matters.

Heck I still gravel vac my sandbed with each water change.

[SkyPapa]

As I said, I had been thinking about sand for this tank, now I have a good excuse.

Vacuuming a sand bed was one reason I went BB on the 120.
I have had a lot of success with bb on the 120.
It should be fairly easy on a 40.

[Toddrtrex]

Think with a breeder it would be pretty easy to do, and your anemone will thank you for it.

I think part of the reason I don't mind doing it, is because I started with fresh water, and got used vacuuming the rocks. Old habit die hard. :)

[SkyPapa]

It looks like you have crushed shell on top and finer sand on the bottom. Correct?
I was thinking of just picking up a bag or 2 of aragonite unless you can recommend something cheaper.
As I said I have stayed out of the sand/bb threads, so I don't know if there is something else being used now.

[Toddrtrex]

This is what I am using on all of my tanks. Think it works great if you are just using shallow sandbed.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+10741+7326&pcatid=7326

It is the 5th one ( second row middle )

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/pet_supplies.cfm?c=3578+10741

[SkyPapa]

Just ordered it from DFS.
I wanted to get some locally, but I haven't seen that in my LFSs

Thanks again.

[Toddrtrex]

Glad to help. :)

I was able to find some at an LFS, but also ordered some from DFS too.

[SkyPapa]

Now all I have to do is figure out if I want to take a chance on the Fridmani.
They would probably like the sand better also.

I did find an old reference that said that psuedochromis have better luck with haddoni than others.
http://fins.actwin.com/species/anemone.html

[Toddrtrex]

Interesting. The only two fish that I lost was a Mandarin and a yellow watch man goby.

While I have never kept a psuedochromis, did have a royal gramma, which is similar, and it stayed out of the way. Though my Clarkiis and pink skunks ( different tanks, but both with Haddonis ) don't let others get all that close.

[sly fox]

thats a beautiful nem..


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12347044#post12347044 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
There is also a Stichodactyla mertensii. Is it on the sandbed? But sounds like a haddoni.

Does it look like this,

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/blueHaddoni4_15_08.jpg

[Toddrtrex]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12354441#post12354441 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sly fox
thats a beautiful nem..

Thanks, I am very happy with it. Just love the deep blue that it has.