creating a wave with tunzes

[ganjero]

Can you create a wave with 2 6101/7095 in 5ft tank? or do I need a wavebox?
Also can you control all 4 pumps independently with the 7095?

Thanks

[hyperfocal]

Sure. I'm creating a wave in my 4' tank with two 6055s controlled by an AquaController Jr and an Aquasurf module (both from Neptune Sys).

[ganjero]

anyone else?

[fkshiu]

It depends what you mean by a "wave".

The 6101 and wavebox push water in different ways. A 6101 on a controller will create pulsating flow in one direction (low/high/low/high etc). With multiple 6101s on a multicontroller you can have them operate in unison/tandem/independently creating that same type of unidirectional flow. So with two 6101s, for example, pointing in opposite directions at either end of the tank being controlled sequentially by the controller, you get wave-like flow in the tank.

If you want to see things swaying gently back and forth, and an actual wave crest at the water's surface, you'll need a wavebox.

Ask Roger Vitko on the tunze forum for a more detailed explanation.

[Pandafish]

I was impressed with this:Profilux Tunze Wave (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1252772)

Watch the video.

[ganjero]

so if I have 2 tunzes 6101 creating random flow, will that ruin the wave from a wavebox or will it work fine?

[hyperfocal]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12507973#post12507973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fkshiu

If you want to see things swaying gently back and forth, and an actual wave crest at the water's surface, you'll need a wavebox.


This isn't completely true. The Aquasurf can control the Streams much more precisely than the standard Tunze Multicontroller, creating a true wave motion via constructive interference. The timing varies depending on the length of the tank.

On my 55gal tank two 6055s cycle from 30% to 100% every 0.8 seconds, with a 0.8 second delay between the two; this gives me a true 1/2" wave. If I take them from 0% to 100%, I can come close to a 1" wave.

[ganjero]

so it can be done?

[hyperfocal]

I did a bit of reading in the Tunze forum like fkshiu suggested. I found some info there -- I was mistaken in saying that the Multicontroller can't be configured to drive resonant waves, it seems it can. I've never used one, so can't offer personal experience one way or the other but that's what was posted. I can say for certain that the AquaSurf does, though.

The Tunze rep did mention that, in his opinion, the wave wasn't very natural looking in a 4' tank... the frequency of the wave is too high for his taste. It looks fine to me in my tank, guess it's personal opinion.

Bottom line is yes, it can be done. Maybe I'll try to post a video.

[xtm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12506803#post12506803 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
Can you create a wave with 2 6101/7095 in 5ft tank? or do I need a wavebox?
Also can you control all 4 pumps independently with the 7095?

Thanks

I don't know about 2x streams, but I've done it with a single 6100:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sjDF49n3Q

I haven't had the chance to play with the 7095 but if I recall correctly they can only ramp up/ramp down from 30% to 100% (?) This is not what you'll need to make a wave. You need something that does a complete ON-OFF, not ramp up/down. You will also need something that is adjustable down to 1/10th of a second so you can fine tune the pump based on your tank.

The problem with this type of "wave action" is that it does NOT move water around like a steady stream does. The best combo IMO is a wavebox AND streams.

That being said, using Streams ALONE cannot displace enough volume to create a high wave. Here's my DIY wavebox.. see the difference?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1duSSdjRb4


Hope that helps

[hyperfocal]

LOL, yeah I'm not gonna get a wave like *that* from my 6055s

Nice work!

[Paul_PSU]

XTM,
Very nice work! I loved RHCP on the wavebox video, the waves went right along with the music...:lol:

[customcolor]

xtm
i thought that the tunze wave boxs did the ramp up and down with out shutting down to save wear and tear on the pump.

[xtm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12511643#post12511643 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by customcolor
xtm
i thought that the tunze wave boxs did the ramp up and down with out shutting down to save wear and tear on the pump.

I'm not sure if that's how the 6091 operates; Anyhow the controllable streams (6000, 6100, etc) don't have brakes that can wear down.

[reefkoi]

Very nice work XTM, I actually like how its choppy at the surface as well.
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[AtlanticBlue]

Don't mean to hijack...but I've been following along. I have 3x6100's in my 6 foot tank and was wondering if there was any way to get a wave going with these?

Any ideas would be awesome!

[customcolor]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12510656#post12510656 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xtm
I don't know about 2x streams, but I've done it with a single 6100:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sjDF49n3Q

I haven't had the chance to play with the 7095 but if I recall correctly they can only ramp up/ramp down from 30% to 100% (?) This is not what you'll need to make a wave. You need something that does a complete ON-OFF, not ramp up/down. You will also need something that is adjustable down to 1/10th of a second so you can fine tune the pump based on your tank.



like i stated befor i think the tunze wave box does the ramp ups and downs(you can do that with DC) and they work just fine. so your statement may be wrong

wave timmers so start and stops and it is hard on power heads except for maxi jets(they can take the abuse) just wondering if its hard on a tunze. it looks like you have it on a start stop timmer.