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hexedagain
06/26/2008, 10:35 AM
I just realized one of the yumas in my grow out tank is basically white. I know that a white yuma usually means a dead yuma, but you tell me what you think.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q11/hexedagain/hexedagain2/002-1.jpg

Has anyone ever seen one like this before? This came from a pink mother yuma.

icy1155
06/26/2008, 11:58 AM
Im pretty sure its bleached. Ive done some research into this kind of thing and as far as science knows there is no actual white pigment for corals, which means that any coral showing white is bleached.

hexedagain
06/26/2008, 01:54 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12825876#post12825876 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by icy1155
Im pretty sure its bleached. Ive done some research into this kind of thing and as far as science knows there is no actual white pigment for corals, which means that any coral showing white is bleached.

If I had bought this from somewhere I would agree. But this has grown from one of my pink mothers in my tank. Same lighting and right beside it.
You can see a faint bit of pink showing, but the majority is white. Could it possibly be such a light shade of pink it just looks white?

JMCAquarium
06/26/2008, 02:18 PM
Is it a baby of a mother pink yuma then maybe it hasn't gained it's pigment yet as it is to young ?? Just a guess how old is it ???

diescreaming
06/26/2008, 06:26 PM
i have seen an all white yuma with an orange ring around the outside, so just because it is white, does not mean it is bleached

icy1155
06/26/2008, 06:37 PM
Yes, white does mean its partially bleached. Im guessing that you just noticed how white it was because it was slowly losing its pigment. Not saying that its completely bleached or it will die, simply that that is not its natural color and it could use some special care/feeding.

Having said that I can see some pink and maybe some blue in it. Hope it makes it.

hexedagain
06/26/2008, 07:26 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12828435#post12828435 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by icy1155
Yes, white does mean its partially bleached. Im guessing that you just noticed how white it was because it was slowly losing its pigment. Not saying that its completely bleached or it will die, simply that that is not its natural color and it could use some special care/feeding.

Having said that I can see some pink and maybe some blue in it. Hope it makes it.

Oh it's doing great. Just as well as any other yuma I have. I have no worries of it making it. I've been watching it not color up over the last month or so.
I have raised several babies from this mother, and they all start out white with a pinkish tone to them. They just normally get a lot more pink by this size.
I am just curious if anyone else has seen this in a yuma before. One that was healthy.

JMCAquarium it is somewhere around 4-5 months old. They normally show more pink on them around 3 months.

JMCAquarium
06/26/2008, 07:57 PM
hhmmm maybe you lucky and have a super duper rare "pink faze Yuma" I just made that up but would be nice if it stayed white the thing is if it's babies stayed white as well or is it a freak coincidence like your Picasso clown in your avatar.

JNye
06/26/2008, 11:25 PM
Ive done some research into this kind of thing and as far as science knows there is no actual white pigment for corals, which means that any coral showing white is bleached.

what about white anemones with pink tips? I think it looks sweet regardless

icy1155
06/27/2008, 12:06 AM
Any truly white cnidarian, weather it is a coral or an anemone is bleached. Thats why most white anemones in the lfs die in a short time, and the ones that live usally change color is when they are kept in sub-par lighting but fed frequently enough that they can rely soley on that.

chemisfun11
06/27/2008, 08:32 PM
cool variant shane. Never seen anything like it, but it looks healthy to me.

morval
07/03/2008, 10:10 AM
i just had this happen to one of my yumas as well its in a colony of brown guys and i thought it bleached out but its still hanging on the rock with the rest of them, been about a month maybe its just really slow at dying?

hexedagain
07/03/2008, 12:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12872055#post12872055 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by morval
i just had this happen to one of my yumas as well its in a colony of brown guys and i thought it bleached out but its still hanging on the rock with the rest of them, been about a month maybe its just really slow at dying?

Any pics? And is the mouth gapped open?

DesigDiver
07/07/2008, 11:18 PM
looks healthy to me...

LoudProudNPunk
07/08/2008, 07:12 AM
its not white like a paper, so maybe its got enough pigment to keep it alive?

FishyMel
07/08/2008, 02:46 PM
Is it new in your system? All my corals bleached when I added new light. I switched from 125 watt pc to 500 watt mh on a 75. Quite an upgrade :) Now my corals are bright again though, 1 month later

reeferfriendly
07/25/2008, 06:19 PM
give you 10 dollars shipped for it as long as you hurry before it dies :P

hexedagain
07/25/2008, 06:23 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13022415#post13022415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeferfriendly
give you 10 dollars shipped for it as long as you hurry before it dies :P

LOL, that's funny. Before it dies.
I will post updated pictures of this bleached and dying yuma later. :lol:
FishyMel it was aquacultured in my system, so it has been under the same lighting it's whole life.
Like I stated before , this yuma is not sick or dying, it is as healthy as any yuma I have or have seen. It did finally start coloring up with the pink like the mother has.

saveafish
08/03/2008, 02:36 AM
WOW!! That is pretty. Can I come over with a pair of scissors

FiSHy sAy HeY
08/06/2008, 03:23 PM
Can we see pictures of what it looks like now?

theborgtank
08/06/2008, 05:38 PM
hey hexedagain, thanks again for telling me about your filtration and feeding. I have more questions for you in my next email. :)

I say you take a sample of the white one and a sample of the pink one that was its mother.

bring or send the samples to a lab and have them find the gene for pink color in yumas. or could it be a gene that allows certain types of algae to grow on the surface of the yuma. or could it be a gene that regulates the photosynthetic pigments responsible for blocking UV light

armed with this information you can start genetically engineering yumas to have crazier colors.

lol, keep it growing... i wonder ... will the white baby from the pink mother have pink babies, probably just as often as the pink ones have white babies

hexedagain
08/12/2008, 10:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13101140#post13101140 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FiSHy sAy HeY
Can we see pictures of what it looks like now?

It has really colored up now. This is the color I expected it to turn into. It is much "pinker" in person.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q11/hexedagain/hexedagain2/064-2.jpg