Tangs VS Tank size - A never ending fued.

[kar93]

Well, For as long as I can remember people have always wanted a Tang in there tank. They are certainly a beautiful fish but due to new reefers being misinformed many of these fish have died. There was a thread a long time ago which gave a list of Tangs tank sizes which alot of people have trouble finding.
So, here is the list

Acanthurus achilles, Achilles Surgeonfish, 200 gal (760l).
Acanthurus coeruleus, Atlantic Blue Tang, 75 gal (285l).
Acanthurus japonicus, Powder Brown Tang, 75 gal (285l).
Acanthurus leucosternon, Powder Blue Tang, 120 gal (540l).
Acanthurus lineatus, Lined or Clown Surgeonfish, 180 gal (680l).
Acanthurus nigricans, Whitecheek Surgeonfish, 75 gal (285l).
Acanthurus olivaceus, Orangeshoulder Surgeonfish, 135 gal (510l).
Acanthurus pyroferus, Mimic Surgeonfish, 75 gal (285l).
Acanthurus sohal, Sohal Surgeonfish, 180 gal (680l).
Acanthurus tristegus, Convict Surgeonfish, 75 gal (285l).
Acanthurus tristis, Indian Mimic Surgeonfish, 75 gal (285l).
Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis, Chevron Tang, 100 gal (380l).
Ctenochaetus strigosus, Kole's Tang, 75 gal (285l).
Naso brevirostris, Spotted Unicornfish, 180 gal (685l).
Naso lituratus, Orangespine Unicornfish or Naso Tang, 135 gal (510l).
Naso unicornis, Bluespine Unicornfish, 200 gal (760l).
Paracanthurus hepatus, Pacific Blue Tang, 100 gal (380l).
Zebrasoma desjardinii, Indian Ocean or Red Sea Sailfin Tang, 135 gal (510l).
Zebrasoma flavescens, Yellow Tang, 75 gal (285l).
Zebrasoma scopas, Brown Tang, 75 gal (285l).
Zebrasoma veliferum, Sailfin Tang, 135 gal (510l).
Zebrasoma xanthurum, Purple Tang, 100 gal (380l).

Please, If you have anything to add to this thread then do. This list doesn't include every Tang but it does include the more commonly available Tangs. If anybody has any problems with this list or would like to discuss anything please post here or PM me. Any posts and discussion will be greatly appreciated.
And dont forget to post pictures of your Tangs here - Show off your Tangs (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1341369)

[rohitp78]

Thanks! this is useful...

just wondering why is 75gal enough for powder brown tang and not for powder blue tang?

[kar93]

The Powder Brown can get up to 8" and the Powder Blue can get up to around 10". It might not seem like a big difference but the Powder Blue is a little more sensitive to diseases such as Ich.

[rohitp78]

ok, Thanks!

[AngeloM3]

another great post kar93

to bad this will get buried in a day or so

[HumanIMDB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12835244#post12835244 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AngeloM3
another great post kar93

to bad this will get buried in a day or so

Yes, I say this should be made sticky, added to the Newbie threads, and/or setup as a tang FAQ on the left. :D

[AngeloM3]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12835363#post12835363 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HumanIMDB
Yes, I say this should be made sticky, added to the Newbie threads, and/or setup as a tang FAQ on the left. :D

kar93 and someone else made terrific noobie threads... answering a lot of questions that people post each day... i even PM'ed the mod's to sticky the threads... they never PM'ed me back and never stickied them.

[kar93]

As long as people see it. ;)

[Neptune777]

Good idea but some of the suggested tank sizes for many of them are off the mark. sohal in a 180, naso in a 135? These are BIG fish! Just my $.02

[Aj Flip]

ill make my own version of this but with tank lengths

Acanthurus achilles, Achilles Surgeonfish, 6' long tank
Acanthurus coeruleus, Atlantic Blue Tang, 5' long tank
Acanthurus japonicus, Powder Brown Tang, 5' long tank
Acanthurus leucosternon, Powder Blue Tang, 6' long tank
Acanthurus lineatus, Lined or Clown Surgeonfish, 8' long tank
Acanthurus nigricans, Whitecheek Surgeonfish, 5' long tank
Acanthurus olivaceus, Orangeshoulder Surgeonfish, 6' long tank
Acanthurus pyroferus, Mimic Surgeonfish, 75 gal 5' long tank
Acanthurus sohal, Sohal Surgeonfish, 7' long tank
Acanthurus tristegus, Convict Surgeonfish, 5 ' long tank
Acanthurus tristis, Indian Mimic Surgeonfish, 5' long tank
Ctenochaetus hawaiiensis, Chevron Tang, 5' long tank
Ctenochaetus strigosus, Kole's Tang, 4' long tank
Naso brevirostris, Spotted Unicornfish, 6' long tank
Naso lituratus, Orangespine Unicornfish or Naso Tang, 6' long tank
Naso unicornis, Bluespine Unicornfish, 6' long tank
Paracanthurus hepatus, Pacific Blue Tang, 5' long tank
Zebrasoma desjardinii, Indian Ocean or Red Sea Sailfin Tang, 5' long tank
Zebrasoma flavescens, Yellow Tang, 4.5' long tank
Zebrasoma scopas, Brown Tang, 5' long tank
Zebrasoma veliferum, Sailfin Tang, 5' long tank
Zebrasoma xanthurum, Purple Tang, 5' long tank



i think this list seems to be good, if im wrong, pls correct me

having only a 75g, pretty much all tangs are off bounds for me, but a lot of people say i can get a kole or a tomini

[Zestay]

hrmm i didnt know they made a 75 gallon 4 foot tank..

anyways i have a standard 90 gallo AGA ( 48 inch long ) what tang would you reccomend? just the ones listed as 75 gallon tangs?

[NanoGurl]

Odd... I didn't know they made a 75 gallon that wasn't a 4 foot tank.

[snorvich]

Well some of those tank sizes are on the conservative side. I kept a Sohal in a 350 gallon tank and it was too large for that tank and became very very aggressive to all inhabitants.

[Aquarist007]

way to go kar--I told you this thread would be a hit and useful.
If you can keep it non confrontational it could be your bet for thread of the month

[Aquarist007]

anyone have a similar chart with average adult sizes of these tangs?

[Aquarist007]

Kar in your thread name I believe you meant feud not fued :)

How could you make a mistake like that:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1359857 LOL

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12835482#post12835482 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
Good idea but some of the suggested tank sizes for many of them are off the mark. sohal in a 180, naso in a 135? These are BIG fish! Just my $.02

I feel that being a bare minimum for the Tangs when they are young, I did make a couple of changes such as the Achilles. I feel that should be in at least a 200 gallon tank becausse they are a very sensitive fish and need alot of swimming room. I'm sure alot of people will disagree with it but I hope this will bring alot of discussion. Non confrontational of course. ;)

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12837688#post12837688 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
Kar in your thread name I believe you meant feud not fued :)

How could you make a mistake like that:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1359857 LOL

Woops, I'll see if I can get that changed.

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12836078#post12836078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zestay
hrmm i didnt know they made a 75 gallon 4 foot tank..

anyways i have a standard 90 gallo AGA ( 48 inch long ) what tang would you reccomend? just the ones listed as 75 gallon tangs?

Yeah, Most 75 gallons are 48"/4'. I would say a Yellow Tang or a Tomini Tang would make a very nice addition.

[Gary Majchrzak]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12836554#post12836554 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
Well some of those tank sizes are on the conservative side. I kept a Sohal in a 350 gallon tank and it was too large for that tank and became very very aggressive to all inhabitants.
exactly.

The aquarium sizes listed at the top of this thread are the minimum size recommended. This information was gleened from one of Scott Michael's books.
Many of those recommendations are not good IMO- the Sohal is a prime example.

Tip for finding info on Tangs and aquarium size: use a specific keyword (such as the fish's scientific name) in a search.
Or just ask.

[otrlynn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12835370#post12835370 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AngeloM3
kar93 and someone else made terrific noobie threads... answering a lot of questions that people post each day... i even PM'ed the mod's to sticky the threads... they never PM'ed me back and never stickied them.

Yeah, I PM'd one of the mods yesterday about a few specific stickies I'd like to see at the top of this forum, especially basic questions about quarantine and ich--no response yet...

[Gary Majchrzak]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12838374#post12838374 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by otrlynn
Yeah, I PM'd one of the mods yesterday about a few specific stickies I'd like to see at the top of this forum, especially basic questions about quarantine and ich--no response yet...
:confused:

those topics are covered in a sticky that has been (and still is) at the top of this forum



http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1031074

[otrlynn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12838385#post12838385 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
:confused:

those topics are covered in a sticky that has been (and still is) at the top of this forum



http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1031074

Gary, I know you did not read the PM I sent to "Beerguy" so I understand your response. In it I noted that there IS lots of valuable information included in the "sticky" that starts "First time on RC--Look here for answers". I just suggested that there be a handful of separate stickies with very self explanatory titiles such as "My fish has ich--what do I do now". For some reason it appears that new posters just do not open that "First time" thread, or it is too long for them to pull out what they need. No criticism implied, just trying eliminate some of the questions that seem to get posted on a daily basis. PM me if you want--so we don't hijack this tread.

[Reeftanks6]

GReat thread kar i am sure that this will help a lot of people out with choosing there tangs.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12838303#post12838303 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Woops, I'll see if I can get that changed.

good luck they wouldn't change mine--I guess they thought it looked good on a teacher:D

[kar93]

Maybe best to just leave it for now then. :)

[Zestay]

reeftanks6 > what tang is in your avatar. thats a kole correct? or a chevron?

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12838815#post12838815 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zestay
reeftanks6 > what tang is in your avatar. thats a kole correct? or a chevron?

That is a Purple Tang in his avatar.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12838323#post12838323 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
exactly.

The aquarium sizes listed at the top of this thread are the minimum size recommended. This information was gleened from one of Scott Michael's books.
Many of those recommendations are not good IMO- the Sohal is a prime example.

Tip for finding info on Tangs and aquarium size: use a specific keyword (such as the fish's scientific name) in a search.
Or just ask.

Gary, in defense of Kar, I was the one that suggested he post the information here.
I agree with you that it might have been not the greatest recommendation --so on that I apologize
I hope in does not put undue pressure or work on the mods to keep it civil

Kar also has one of the best threads on tangs here:

show me your tangs
where there has been a huge resource of information besides excellent tang shots on the appropriate tank size for tangs

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1286563

and to add my opinion here--just using a chart can be dangerous in that it doesn't take into consideration the compatability of species of tangs with each other which is a big concern of mine

[Reeftanks6]

Purple tang

[jenjen]

As a newbie with a 90gal and a LFS who will sell me anything I want, I can say I really appreciate this type of guideline.

Obviously nothing is carved in stone in this hobby. We taking wild animals and containing them in small amounts of water (even the largest tanks are nothing next to the ocean!), but at the very least this gives us who are new to the hobby something of a starting point.

For me, this type of info changed my mind on wanting a blonde naso tang to a more reasonable kole tang.

So thanks to those of you putting together this kind of info to help us newbie's out with a starting point. And thanks also to everyone with the "ya but..." comments, cause those help remind us that guidelines are just that, and no one guideline should ever be taken as the final word.

[Reeftanks6]

Kar question for you i was just loooking in the Show off ur tang thread and at first you said Achillies for 100 and know its 200. I mean my 2 cents would be 200 but what is yours.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12839334#post12839334 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jenjen
As a newbie with a 90gal and a LFS who will sell me anything I want, I can say I really appreciate this type of guideline.

Obviously nothing is carved in stone in this hobby. We taking wild animals and containing them in small amounts of water (even the largest tanks are nothing next to the ocean!), but at the very least this gives us who are new to the hobby something of a starting point.

For me, this type of info changed my mind on wanting a blonde naso tang to a more reasonable kole tang.

So thanks to those of you putting together this kind of info to help us newbie's out with a starting point. And thanks also to everyone with the "ya but..." comments, cause those help remind us that guidelines are just that, and no one guideline should ever be taken as the final word.

really nice post:thumbsup:

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12841847#post12841847 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reeftanks6
Kar question for you i was just loooking in the Show off ur tang thread and at first you said Achillies for 100 and know its 200. I mean my 2 cents would be 200 but what is yours.

When I posted it here I looked over it and saw that is said Achilles - 100. I would only recommend an Achilles in a 100 if Hell froze over. Of course it might be fine as a baby but it is such a sensitive fish, gets big and needs alot of swimming space.

[Simon68]

Is the blue hippo tang in that list?

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12845041#post12845041 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Simon68
Is the blue hippo tang in that list?

Paracanthurus hepatus, Pacific Blue Tang, 100 gal (380l).

[Zestay]

to much for a 90?
purple tang
Pacific Blue Tang
and one other small tang. not sure yet

[Aquarist007]

oh please don't make us answer that question here

try on this thread

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1341369

[Zestay]

eh why not look at the title to this thread its perfect.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12845257#post12845257 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zestay
eh why not look at the title to this thread its perfect.

I think my post above is self explanatory. IMO there are a couple of topics here that become emotionally charged very easily and well meaning discussions become arguments ect very quickly.
The other thread is not just about tang size vs tank but rather a host of other issues about tangs. The title alone here is going to attract neg attention

Originally posted by Gary Majchrzak
exactly.

The aquarium sizes listed at the top of this thread are the minimum size recommended. This information was gleened from one of Scott Michael's books.
Many of those recommendations are not good IMO- the Sohal is a prime example.

Tip for finding info on Tangs and aquarium size: use a specific keyword (such as the fish's scientific name) in a search.
Or just ask.
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Gary, in defense of Kar, I was the one that suggested he post the information here.
I agree with you that it might have been not the greatest recommendation --so on that I apologize
I hope in does not put undue pressure or work on the mods to keep it civil

Kar also has one of the best threads on tangs here:

show me your tangs
where there has been a huge resource of information besides excellent tang shots on the appropriate tank size for tangs

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showt...hreadid=1286563

and to add my opinion here--just using a chart can be dangerous in that it doesn't take into consideration the compatability of species of tangs with each other which is a big concern of mine

[IridescentLily]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12839334#post12839334 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jenjen
As a newbie with a 90gal and a LFS who will sell me anything I want, I can say I really appreciate this type of guideline.

Obviously nothing is carved in stone in this hobby. We taking wild animals and containing them in small amounts of water (even the largest tanks are nothing next to the ocean!), but at the very least this gives us who are new to the hobby something of a starting point.

For me, this type of info changed my mind on wanting a blonde naso tang to a more reasonable kole tang.

So thanks to those of you putting together this kind of info to help us newbie's out with a starting point. And thanks also to everyone with the "ya but..." comments, cause those help remind us that guidelines are just that, and no one guideline should ever be taken as the final word.

Ditto this. Thank you Capn.

[Reeftanks6]

Totally agree with you kar.

[mutualbill]

The best size tank for xx Tang is.......................The Ocean. I mean seriously people, use common sense in your placement of tangs. Tangs swim for MILES every day over the reef so to say that this tang is better for a 7 foot tank rather than a 6 foot tank is ludicrous IMO.

Is a 6foot tank the place for a Unicorn Tang? Hell no, but IMO a 7 foot tank isn't much better. If you want to keep a tang, have a long, large, tank. That's the bottom line. No tang will THRIVE in an box of water. Its just not natural for them.

Am I an expert? No, but I have 3 tangs, never had ich, and all fat and healthy. Yellow tang, yellow eyed kole tang, Hippo Tang. All had for +2 years :)

[kar93]

I think it's best for me to unsubscribe before this gets ugly.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12849709#post12849709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
I think it's best for me to unsubscribe before this gets ugly.

Kar--go to the top of the forum that this is posted in. Look for the mod that is watching now(brown type) Email them and request they close the thread

Scott

[REEF-n-Chicago]

I don't see any issue with keeping say 3 or 4 tangs in a 55 gallon. I mean; naso tangs don't even get that big..... :)

Just kidding guys :) Great info but this always gets ugly !

[Reeftanks6]

LOL yea i hate when the threads get out of hand.

[Tswifty]

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[Tswifty]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/tswifty8/humor2A-1.jpg

[jthao]

very nice thread...... good information for newbs!!!! thanks for posting kar93.

obviously like every other aspect in this hobby, there's different ways of doing things, different methods for doing things, and different opinions on every subject. threads won't get sour if everyone keeps an open mind. One thing that will work for some one, might not work for some one else, and vice-versa.

just an example...... I have a yellow tang in a 10g nano. he's the happiest tang I've ever seen. to explain in details, this tang is blind in one eye, he's 1.5" long, and fat and healthy. I can't keep him in my 180g because he will stress and not be able to find food in there due to the other fishes/flow/rockwork/etc.... In the 10g nano, I can spot feed him with no one else to take his food. also he doesn't stress because he's the only one in there and because it's a 10g nano, he's able to familiarize himself with the surrounding and can actually swim around even to the right...... his blind side.

So with that said, there's certain circumstances for everything in this hobby. do what works for you. if some one else does something different from you and you don't agree, either suggest nicely what you would do if you're in his/her shoe, or keep your opinion to yourself. I know that everyone here has had an adult tell them when they were kids: "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

[kar93]

I decided to swing by to see if this had gotten ugly but it hasn't.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12853958#post12853958 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jthao
very nice thread...... good information for newbs!!!! thanks for posting kar93.

obviously like every other aspect in this hobby, there's different ways of doing things, different methods for doing things, and different opinions on every subject. threads won't get sour if everyone keeps an open mind. One thing that will work for some one, might not work for some one else, and vice-versa.

just an example...... I have a yellow tang in a 10g nano. he's the happiest tang I've ever seen. to explain in details, this tang is blind in one eye, he's 1.5" long, and fat and healthy. I can't keep him in my 180g because he will stress and not be able to find food in there due to the other fishes/flow/rockwork/etc.... In the 10g nano, I can spot feed him with no one else to take his food. also he doesn't stress because he's the only one in there and because it's a 10g nano, he's able to familiarize himself with the surrounding and can actually swim around even to the right...... his blind side.

So with that said, there's certain circumstances for everything in this hobby. do what works for you. if some one else does something different from you and you don't agree, either suggest nicely what you would do if you're in his/her shoe, or keep your opinion to yourself. I know that everyone here has had an adult tell them when they were kids: "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."


Jthao, I think it's great that you're thinking of the Tang and trying to keep it in a stress free enviroment due to is condition. I would recommend setting up a 55 or 75 gal for him as you probably know they get bigger and will outgrow that 10g. But like I said I think its great what you're doing for him.

[chrisqueenz]

I agree, very informational for those that are begining in this hobby or even begining to aquire a taste fo keeping tangs (ME!). I just set my 260G tank and still undecided as to what tangs I want to keep in there. I want to make sure they have plenty of swimming area.

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12857073#post12857073 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisqueenz
I agree, very informational for those that are begining in this hobby or even begining to aquire a taste fo keeping tangs (ME!). I just set my 260G tank and still undecided as to what tangs I want to keep in there. I want to make sure they have plenty of swimming area.

Naso would be my first choice. Achilles might make a good addition too but they are a sensitive fish and even worst than the PBT for ich.

[chrisqueenz]

I had a powder blue and died of ich 2weeks later in my 92 corner just before set-up the 260G and it's got me sort of hesistant on purchasing another.

The demensions on the tank is 72x29x29

[Skeptic_07]

I'm curious to know what is recommended for Naso vlamingi

*i mean.. i've seen recommendations of 180 on websites that are selling them and i've also seen them full grown in a 30 foot tank at a public aquarium, useing the entire space.

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12857315#post12857315 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Skeptic_07
I'm curious to know what is recommended for Naso vlamingi

They would probably be fine in a 200-400 for a while but these things grow FAST for a medium sized I wouldnt reccommend anything less than 1k. But that is just my personal opinion.

[Skeptic_07]

understood.

[Tswifty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12857085#post12857085 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Achilles might make a good addition too but they are a sensitive fish and even worst than the PBT for ich.
As soon as I get a large enough tank... that's a purchase I will be making. It's one of the fish that got me interested in the hobby.

[twoodall]

Contributing to Tang Goodwill!:rollface:

I have a sailfin tang now and soon I hope to add a powder brown tang. The LFS tells me that these two tangs should have no problems with each other if I add the powder brown before the sailfin gets too big. I really will be happy with just these two tangs in my 150 gallon, though these will not be the only two fish in the tank. Should they get along in this size tank?

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12835189#post12835189 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rohitp78
Thanks! this is useful...

just wondering why is 75gal enough for powder brown tang and not for powder blue tang?

On that note, why is a 75 enough for a powder brown, but not for a purple, which is not even an open water fish?

[Skeptic_07]

I'm going to venture a guess that the brown tangs are a little hardier and not as easily stressed. tank size doesn't always have to do with fish size, although normally it does.

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12857154#post12857154 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisqueenz
I had a powder blue and died of ich 2weeks later in my 92 corner just before set-up the 260G and it's got me sort of hesistant on purchasing another.

The demensions on the tank is 72x29x29

there is very little way around it--you have to quarantine powder blues esp and other tangs also

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12859654#post12859654 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Skeptic_07
I'm going to venture a guess that the brown tangs are a little hardier and not as easily stressed. tank size doesn't always have to do with fish size, although normally it does.

I don't think I could possibly disagree more. Powder browns are just as easily stressed as powder blues, and achilles. They're just cheaper.


Purples are probably the easiest tangs out there aside from yellows.


I'm horrified by the idea of a Vlamingi in even a 1K gallon tank. A full grown Vlamingi is over 2' long, and very active.

[kar93]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12864567#post12864567 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley


I'm horrified by the idea of a Vlamingi in even a 1K gallon tank. A full grown Vlamingi is over 2' long, and very active.

Yeah, Long term it isn't a good idea but it may suffice when they are at an "average" size. But unfortunately, the reality is that only a handful of reefers have a big enough tank to house these Tangs when mature.

[Reeftanks6]

Totally agree with above. I think that powder browns are a little easier to keep then the PBT and the PBT is a little easier then the Achilles.

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12864581#post12864581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Yeah, Long term it isn't a good idea but it may suffice when they are at an "average" size.

It may suffice? But where are the fish going after that? Most people don't have a friend who has a 10K gallon tank and wants a vlamingii, and the aquariums do not want your fish


They're not suitable for homes.

[kar93]

Shame they are even collected really but once they are there is not much we can do but help provide the best possible home for them and thanks to sites such as RC that is possible. ;)

[Skeptic_07]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12864567#post12864567 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
I don't think I could possibly disagree more. Powder browns are just as easily stressed as powder blues, and achilles. They're just cheaper.


Easy brother. Thats why i said it was a guess.

[kar93]

It also depends on what Powder Brown you are talking about?

[Skeptic_07]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12864806#post12864806 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Shame they are even collected really but once they are there is not much we can do but help provide the best possible home for them and thanks to sites such as RC that is possible. ;)

I totally agree. I saw one for sale at a LFS once. It was about 6". Poor guy doesn't have a chance. Its really sad, they seem like such an amazing animal.

This is where i go to see vlamingi tangs and they still seem a bit cramped, swimming the glass.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/2/aquarium/view