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Crush Coral
06/30/2008, 07:45 PM
I am glad to show you a cool snail I have, tow of them actually. They spend most of their time in my crushed coral substrate. Been the for about 6 months nowhttp://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn448/crushcoral/tankpictures007.jpg.

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 07:47 PM
Very cool!
Is it a Nassarius?

Crush Coral
06/30/2008, 08:10 PM
it's white and brown - means I don't know. The shell is about 1 1/4" long.

aslavatortin
06/30/2008, 08:12 PM
Tongan nassarius to be specific; if they are anything like the "regular" strain of nassarius, be prepared for some babies. I personally love nassarius.

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 08:15 PM
I love them, too! By far my favorite snail. I love how they come out of the sand like zombies at the smell of food. :bum:

CC: Your's has a very nice shell pattern.

Gary Majchrzak
06/30/2008, 08:23 PM
looks like a Babylonia to me :rolleyes:

http://www.gastropods.com/0/Shell_10.html

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=524711&highlight=babylonia

Crush Coral
06/30/2008, 08:31 PM
guess people other than me like these guys too. I had 3, now down to 2.

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 08:34 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12854632#post12854632 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
looks like a Babylonia to me :rolleyes:

http://www.gastropods.com/0/Shell_10.html

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=524711&highlight=babylonia
Thanks, I thought the shell looked different.

Gary Majchrzak
06/30/2008, 08:39 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12854702#post12854702 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Crush Coral
guess people other than me like these guys too. I had 3, now down to 2.
one down, two to go-
they make excellent shells for the curio cabinet ;)

gbcichlids
06/30/2008, 08:55 PM
Nassarius Vibrex I think. Hangs out in the "strate" until it smells(?) food.
Very Nice!

Gary Majchrzak
06/30/2008, 09:02 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12854888#post12854888 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gbcichlids
Nassarius Vibrex I think. Hangs out in the "strate" until it smells(?) food.
Very Nice!
Buhler! :lol:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/mg/index.php

aslavatortin
06/30/2008, 09:27 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12854927#post12854927 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
Buhler! :lol:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/mg/index.php

Well, excuse the crap out of us for not seeking an independent taxonomical breakdown of what is being sold ALL OVER THE PLACE as Tongan or Super Tongan Nassarius.

aslavatortin
06/30/2008, 09:29 PM
They do make excellent shells for the curio cabinet, though...:thumbsup:

Gary Majchrzak
06/30/2008, 09:37 PM
you could have just said "thanks for the link". Try it sometime ;)

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 09:50 PM
Heck I'll say thanks again ;)

I really like the article about the Ilyanassa, I hadn't read it in a long time.

jpitts101
06/30/2008, 10:00 PM
smart snail, with gas prices so high i would be hitching a ride too!

Gary Majchrzak
06/30/2008, 10:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12855256#post12855256 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tang Salad
Heck I'll say thanks again ;)

I really like the article about the Ilyanassa, I hadn't read it in a long time.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

many species of snails eat other invertebrates which makes them a poor choice for reef aquariums.
Some of the best herbivorous snails for a reef aquarium are Astrea (conehead), Turbo (Turban), and Stomatella

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 10:06 PM
And just for clarity's sake, here's a pic of two Nassarius I just took.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8203/p6301007xd7.jpg/
I believe it to be Nassarius vibrex. Opinions?

Gary Majchrzak
06/30/2008, 10:12 PM
compare to:

http://www.gastropods.com/0/Shell_1930.html

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 10:22 PM
Wow! Each link is better than the last! :) :)

Comparing the pictures I'd say it looks extremely similar. The ridges on mine seem more worn down and rounded. Maybe geographic/environmental variation...?

Is it possible to ID without looking closely at the shell opening?

Thanks again :D

Tang Salad
06/30/2008, 10:40 PM
Holy Smokes! There are about Eighty different species of Nassarius! (http://www.gastropods.com/Taxon_pages/Family_NASSARIIDAE_NASSARIINAE.html)

I will now say I have no idea if mine are Nassarius vibrex, but I'm fairly certain they are Nassarius. :lol:

pagojoe
07/01/2008, 11:52 AM
LOL I'm sorry I missed this thread for so long... the top snails are Babylonia species. They aren't sold as Tongan Nassarius, that's a different species that doesn't have spots (Nassarius coronatus and N. arcularius). They are sometimes sold as "Fancy Nassarius" though, which they are not. They are primarily scavengers, but are capable of killing other molluscs.

The ones in Tang's pic are Nassarius distortus.

Cheers,



Don

Tang Salad
07/01/2008, 12:07 PM
Many thanks Don! :)

Was there some easy identifying mark you saw in my photos? Just wondering how you're able to nail down the species...

DLANDINO
07/01/2008, 12:09 PM
great with butter and garlic too!

pagojoe
07/01/2008, 06:28 PM
YW Tang. As for eating them, I seem to recall that a bunch of people in China? got very sick or died from eating Babylonia snails. I could probably Google it and eventually find the report. There was another case of poisoning from eating Olive snails, Oliva miniacea or O. sericea I think. Maybe you should take just an itty bitty bite first to see if it kills you before you cook too many of them....

Cheers,



Don

pagojoe
07/01/2008, 06:40 PM
I didn't really answer your title question though, Crush. Yes, they are very cool snails, and some of the most attractive species that you can keep easily in your reef tank. I believe yours are Babylonia areolata:

http://www.gastropods.com/8/Shell_8.html

Cheers,


Don